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- AnakSeria, on 11/09/2009, -29/+114Haunting, this article.
Most concerning, and critical is this line:
"The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter. Something unprecedented is happening here — and it’s very bad for America."
Because it is true. The ugliness that was unleashed by Reagan, and magnified by Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumfeld is growing.
It's still small, but it is a disease, like cancer.
Though small, it's poison is powerful enough to overwhelm all that is good.
In reality, the real threat to the Constitution and all that is American, is really their hate and vile.
The ONLY antidote to this hate, is the timeless mantra of love, peace and forgiveness.
It is time to take back the REAL values that this country was founded on. - joculator, on 11/09/2009, -20/+91The GOP and their mouthpieces on AM radio and FOX use fear to influence just about every issue they advocate. Behind each of those issues is a large corporation standing to make billions.
- Verchiel77, on 11/09/2009, -20/+62Another station on the GOP marginalization train:
Their base attacking holocaust survivors who object to them exploiting nazi atrocities to gain points in the health care debate:
http://digg.com/politics/Teabaggers_attack_Holocau ...
Disgusting. - redfan, on 11/09/2009, -8/+39'So the antiwar, small government republicans are now the "irrational right".'
And where were those Republicans when their party was in control of both houses of Congress and the White House? At the time they seemed perfectly content with the skyrocketing debt, escalating wars, and TARP. - mparker21311, on 11/09/2009, -14/+45The fact that the GOP has some power speaks volumes about American voters.
- sonofabiscuit, on 11/09/2009, -16/+45Where does George Clooney play into all of this?
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -8/+37NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN...???...not even close to FOX, by a long shot
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -7/+30Yeah, ***** crazy...like running around with three-corner hats on, buying out all the ammo at the local gun store and comparing anything and everything they don't like to Hitler and socialism....yeah...lefties.
- zip000, on 11/09/2009, -5/+28If that was all they were about then they wouldn't be called irrational. The fact though is that the whole teabagger movement is about xenophobia and pure craziness.
They actually believe the government is coming for them and is going to take their grandmothers to death camps...this isn't just grandstanding for many of them, they believe it is literally true. These are the people that joined militias in the 90s, the ones that bombed Oklahoma City - or say things like, "I don't agree with what they did, but I understand why they did it".
The far right is a disease all over the world: they are the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and they are the crazies here. - Hetman, on 11/09/2009, -9/+31“I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.” Ronald Reagan.
- geoboy, on 11/09/2009, -4/+23There is only one Republican Congressman I can think of who was anti-war and pro small government, and he was not at all content when Republicans controlled both houses. In fact, he was so discontent that he felt it was necessary to run for president in 2008. Too bad his own party treated him like an outcast during the nomination process. Apparently real conservatives don't belong in the Republican party anymore.
- redfan, on 11/09/2009, -5/+24Nice job of debating the points. Anyone who disagrees with you is simply "***** crazy" and the article is "crap". Makes sense.
- redfan, on 11/09/2009, -9/+25"You could find comparisons of Bush to Hitler all the time when he was President."
At rallies where there were Democratic Congressmen? Please show me examples of the Democratic equivalents of Michelle Bachmann and John Boehner actively encouraging such comparisons. - nirvanix, on 11/09/2009, -21/+37Here's the NY Times again doing the divide and conquer thing. The real problem that America faces is the erosion of Constitutional rights by government. It doesn't matter the party because they both work for the banksters. If you want to save America vote for independents, recall your congressional representatives if they don't keep their promises or violate their constitutional oaths.
- rsmith32, on 11/09/2009, -0/+14so it isn't just me!
- skintigh, on 11/09/2009, -5/+18How are the Teabaggers anti war?!?
And I don't think anyone is calling them irrational for being for small gov't or anti war (though it would be pretty irrational for people with those beliefs to be Republicans after Bush started a war of choice based on lies, doubled the National debt, handed Obama a 1.1 Trillion dollar deficit, and increased the size of the federal gov't by over 50%, but that's another post.)
They are being called irrational because they compare Obama to a Nazi, Socialist, Communist and Fascist in the same breath, accuse him of wanting a holocaust at the same time they diminish or deny the holocaust, and generally make completely irrational statements and decisions. Like handing NY-23 to Democrats for the first time since the Civil War and calling it a victory.
I know one teabagger, and other than being fairly gullible about whatever Beck or Rush or Fox says seems to be a smart guy with rational political beliefs that just happen to be the opposite of mine. But based on the tactics I've seen (drowning out free speech like a spoiled Ivy Leaguer or Code Pink) and the signs they've carried (see above) and the run-away imagination/lies (death panels, etc.) then I can't imagine that he is representative of the group as a whole. - phogasmic, on 11/09/2009, -9/+22No body from the left brought a gun to a GWB rally.
- redfan, on 11/09/2009, -9/+22And where in that comment does he compare people who disagree with him to Hitler?
- DPDish12, on 11/09/2009, -6/+19...into your life it will creep.
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -8/+21The same is true for Democrats...? Sure, to some extent, but nothing like the GOP.
- WasabiBomb, on 11/09/2009, -5/+17There's that false dichotomy again. I guess if you say something often enough, it becomes true, huh?
- frcc, on 11/09/2009, -5/+17With the exception of Ron Paul they all deserve to be thrown out. That's why the party is divided and being taken over.
- inactive, on 11/09/2009, -5/+17Yeah, while I don't really give a ***** about politics. The far right (which now seems like the mainstream for the right) are effectively having a tantrum. This party shouldn't be allowed back into power for at least another twelve years. Give 'em time to chill the eff out. The weirdos are scaring everybody more than teh Muslims.
- sigmaman2, on 11/09/2009, -3/+15"What all this shows is that the G.O.P. has been taken over by the people it used to exploit. "
KABOOM! My mind officially blown at this point!!! - NorthMass, on 11/09/2009, -1/+12So now Obama can just create money out of magic? Because Obama says so, we will be rich?
- NorthMass, on 11/09/2009, -1/+12Krugman repeatedly called for interest rate cuts in 2001-2002
http://blog.mises.org/archives/010153.asp - redfan, on 11/09/2009, -4/+14On the one hand, you have a point about supporting smaller government and personal liberty. BUT, as I mentioned above, it seems more than a little hypocritical that they suddenly have remembered their principles once the other major party came into power, accusing someone else over the exact same things they supported when their own party was in power.
And additionally, no rational person should be comparing universal healthcare to the Nazis. At best it looks ignorant, at worst it is disgusting and disrespectful to those who actually died in the Holocaust. Any rational discussion from the teabaggers became impossible at that point (and when you had people yelling things like "keep the government out of my Medicare"). - joculator, on 11/09/2009, -6/+16There were an inordinate number of people blaming Bush for everything that went wrong in their lives back then, I'll give you that. I don't think the fear mongering by Democratic supporters was anything along the lines of what we're seeing today from people like Glen Beck and the "news anchors" on FOX. I mean, Glen Beck does about 10 minutes every day on how we're going to implode.
- calypsoschnitzl, on 11/09/2009, -5/+15To all you teabaggers, where were you between 2000 and 2008? Just sit back, relax, and kindly let the reasonable people fix the mess.
- JedicodeWarrior, on 11/09/2009, -14/+23"If the G.O.P. essentially shrinks down to a rump party across America ... "
If? - archiesteel, on 11/09/2009, -3/+12No. The situation on the left and the right are *not* comparable. The extremist fringe of the Republican party is imposing its vision on the entire GOP.
Meanwhile, the centrist faction of the Democrats is imposing *their* views on the extremist fringe of that party.
So the two situations are not comparable, and to suggest as much is to make oneself an apologist for the Republicans' current irrational devolution. - Volfie99, on 11/09/2009, -1/+10I've been saying this for years. If you ignore partisanship for a minute, consider this: in a two party system, the party in power *always* needs and effective opposition for it to function. Without a good opposition, the corrupting influences run wild. And that's what's happening now. The total corporatization (if that's a word) of the television media and the congress is the outcome; which means we're living in an oligarchy, not a democracy.
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -4/+12If I were you I would sell everything I own and put it into gold and ammo...just make sure you hold onto it for at least another 2-3 years. And DON'T start to sell when the price drops....keep the faith.
- awinters, on 11/09/2009, -5/+13This has been a slow burn. Since Goldwater and the Southern Strategy, you have a party leaving its successful roots. Gingrich made it worse, then W. Now with the Teabaggers and conspiracy theorists, you have a party running on the fuel of hatred, animosity and soreloserness (new word).
No one wins here. Sorry to offend anyone, but Dems in Congress suck and if the real Republicans were to take their party back from these extreme social conservatives, homophobes, racists and people who are motivated by being "against" everything instead of "for" something, Dems wouldn't have a chance.
However, it seems they have chosen to go the other way and the result is Americans go from having two parties that aren't meeting their needs to one party that isn't meeting their needs. - darkened, on 11/09/2009, -3/+11How do people bury you for being factual with no response even?
- darkened, on 11/09/2009, -2/+9Obama-ism, talk about an extremist religion with no basis in reality.
- NorthMass, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7how would 1929 own Schiff? That crash happened because of the same reasons as now, loose monetary policy, and the government over-regulating everything.
- RTFMA, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7@joculator: There is a difference between compensatory damages and punitive damages.
Compensatory damages are used to compensate the victim for the actual harm done, in other words an effort to make them whole after the tort was committed. No one wants to cap this.
Punitive damages are in place to punish offenders over and above compensatory damages. This is where the runaway judgments happen, and this is what needs to be capped to control insurance costs for doctors and patients and to reduce the amount of money that is leeched from the system by trial attorneys. - darkened, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7Well said, the 2 party system is really damning us since both parties are 2 sides of the same ***** America coin.
- Bloodwine, on 11/09/2009, -22/+29If you ask me, it is the left who are acting all paranoid, delusionally thinking there is an underground movement of gun-toting christian extremists ready to throw us into the dark ages through martial law and weekly book burnings.
- Yond, on 11/09/2009, -1/+8It is my hope that this is a time of national emotional psychotheraputic awareness. I hope that we all observe the psychology of our political parties. Fear and anger always turn against those who would try to spread that wildfire. The employment of such psychological forces to me seems like an act of desperation as younger generations turn elsewhere.
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -6/+12The gun thing is outta hand. People are buying guns in my area like the mongols are at the gate.
- waaaahhh, on 11/09/2009, -3/+9hmm i guess krugman was actually onto something
- WasabiBomb, on 11/09/2009, -5/+11@AbsurdParadox- I'm implying that you are, at the very least, exaggerating the comparisons between Fox and the rest of the networks.
One network has argued in court that they have the right to lie- Fox.
One network enjoyed unparalleled access to the White House for eight years- Fox.
One network calls itself a news network, but actually devotes most of its primetime format to political commentary (and uses that commentary as the basis for followup "news stories"- Fox.
The other networks might be biased towards Democrats. However, they at least *pretend* to be non-partisan. Fox News doesn't even try. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_cont ... - Tyrghast, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6It's a great song, but it doesn't fit the neo-con message.
Conservative talk radio and television programming is good for two things: a good laugh and scaring the bejeesus out of you when you realize how many of their listeners take that ***** seriously. - Tyrghast, on 11/09/2009, -6/+12Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away - defteats, on 11/09/2009, -2/+8Don't forget Communism and Fascism along with Socialism, because to the tea-baggers, these are all interchangeable words.
- Landthatilove, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6A "moot" point. Sorry. Not trying to offend.
- joculator, on 11/09/2009, -3/+9Really? Liberals are for the US extending their military power...I guess I had it all wrong. Thank you professor.
- Hetman, on 11/09/2009, -4/+10Gold rises and falls. It is high right now but that can only last for so long.
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