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- fartbarker, on 05/07/2009, -2/+64prohibition = FAIL
- TheJimid, on 05/07/2009, -0/+62Norm Stamper should be the architect of general community policing strategies. The dude just get's it.
- yocouchdigga, on 05/07/2009, -0/+45Completely awesome.
It's time to end this insanity. - trymene, on 05/07/2009, -2/+41LEGALIZE NOW!
- choopie911, on 05/07/2009, -4/+35Lets get this bitch on the front page
- CopsSayLegalize, on 05/07/2009, -0/+30Norm Stamper for Drug Czar!!!!
- dman24752, on 05/07/2009, -0/+28Why isn't he the new Drug Czar?
- nascentia, on 05/07/2009, -0/+21If you haven't heard of L.E.A.P. before, go check them out - http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
Rather than give you my version, here's some of their "About Us":
'Founded on March 16, 2002, LEAP is made up of current and former members of the law enforcement and criminal justice communities who are speaking out about the failures of our existing drug policies. Those policies have failed, and continue to fail, to effectively address the problems of drug abuse, especially the problems of juvenile drug use, the problems of addiction, and the problems of crime caused by the existence of a criminal black market in drugs.
Although those who speak publicly for LEAP are people from the law enforcement and criminal justice communities, a large number of our supporting members do not have such experience. You don't have to have law enforcement experience to join us.
By continuing to fight the so-called "War on Drugs", the US government has worsened these problems of society instead of alleviating them. A system of regulation and control of these substances (by the government, replacing the current system of control by the black market) would be a less harmful, less costly, more ethical and more effective public policy.'
And if you donate $5, you get a kick-ass LEAP badge! - naderventura, on 05/07/2009, -2/+23dugg for FREEDOM*)
- KritterKat, on 05/07/2009, -0/+18Super! I wish we all could write like that. Was going to say "I wish I could..." but then realized, if we all could write like that, we could flood the policy-proposers/makers with smart proposal letters to abolish prohibition and end this thing in a hurry.
- VocalCitizen, on 05/07/2009, -0/+16Norm Stamper, please come to Missouri and educate OUR law enforcement!
Excellent letter! Mr. Stamper, you ought to do an iReport. Why doesn't L.E.A.P. utilize iReport? - inactive, on 05/07/2009, -0/+11The "drug war", like most wars... has just made a few people super rich, while the majority of people wind up dead, wasting valuable years behind bars, and wasting billions of tax dollars.
Drugs are just as easy to get nowadays as they were 20 years ago... this "war" has been ineffective and can not be waged with laws... only when people have a change of heart will they change their mind. The more laws passed, the more crime their is... laws don't stop people from doing much of anything, for it is our very nature to want to break laws. - Frankyfan3, on 05/08/2009, -0/+10It's easier to get over an addiction than a conviction.
- Frankyfan3, on 05/07/2009, -0/+8The drug czar is required by law to lie.
http://digg.com/d1mu88 - USCnick, on 05/07/2009, -1/+9dugg for "don't blow it Gil."
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 05/08/2009, -0/+8I know HuffPo takes a lot of shots for having a liberal slant, but in this case the reporting is simply, "a guy wrote a letter, here it is". Bit difficult to be anything but objective in a statement like that.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/07/2009, -0/+8Good first step, second step is to legalize it, regulate it, and tax it to pay for the problems that drugs cause to society. Even with a 100% tax legal drugs will be a fraction of the cost they are now.
Why are we still fighting a war that we have lost every day for the past 50 years? - naldwell, on 05/08/2009, -1/+9Nothing will change. Anyone that wants to smoke it can smoke it already. Most people aren't allowed to go to work drunk, so the same rules should extend to weed.
- inevitablity, on 05/07/2009, -0/+8I read his book Breaking Rank years ago and Norm definitely understands what true policing is about. He had the courage to take on some tough tasks as Seattle's Chief of Police and definitely ruffled feathers during his tenure, but the changes he made should be used as an outline for all law enforcement agencies.
- lolmax, on 05/08/2009, -0/+7Obama and his appointees are following a long line of severely hypocritical administrations in recent history. Him, bush and clinton all admitted to having used marijuana or cocaine, and yet NONE of them have yet to make any significant moves towards ending the war on drugs.
They were allowed to experiment with substances and did not suffer the consequences while hundreds of thousands of americans continue to be prosecuted for the exact same victimless crime.
It's nothing less than complete *****. Obama even admitted to smoking quite a lot in his book and seemed to have a good stance on marijuana in the past, however as soon as he was voted into office he started treating it like a big joke. Whats his ***** problem? He turned out just fine, as having made it to arguably the most important job position in the world, while the rest of us who decide to smoke are still treated like criminals who dont deserve the same as everyone else. - dman24752, on 05/08/2009, -0/+7http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/about/98reauth ...
Holy *****, read this little gem
The Drug Czar
(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--
(A) is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and
(B) has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration; - t3chn0b0y, on 05/08/2009, -0/+7I feel as though all the emails, phone calls & letters I've been sending out are beginning to pay off.. Prohibition & war on drugs is a stupid means of fixing the countries drug problem.. Its money that can go into educating people & getting those that need treatment, the proper care, and money to spare for health care for millions etc...
- dublea2, on 05/07/2009, -0/+6Very nice and well thought out letter! Lets hope that in the next few years we see some changes to these outdated laws that are not backed by any true scientific tests!
- Halsfield, on 05/08/2009, -0/+6This is about more than just pot and I hope you realize that soon. If we only legalize marijuana then the war on drugs isn't over, and the gangs still exist, the cartels still exist, and the entire problem is still there, only now some people can smoke pot without worry. T
he fact that pot is natural has nothing to do with it's proven safety and non-addictiveness. There are many natural things that will kill you, so saying "oh its completely natural , its fine" isn't really a great way to convince intelligent people. - inactive, on 05/08/2009, -0/+5If we the people have been losing, who's been winning? Answer that correctly and you'll have the answer to your question.
- charlie6969, on 05/08/2009, -0/+5Well, things they are 'achanging.....
I got an email back from Senator Lugar, (R), IN today.
I also got one back from the Governor's office. Both Republicans.(This IS Indiana, after all.)
They were both more respectful and open-minded than in times past.
We may not be there yet, but we are inching closer, in my humble opinion. - smokin427, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4It won't be long until the war is over. Gil knows what he's doing, and while he may not jump to legalization, he may just end the war and help us to reschedule a completely natural herb.
- theskillwithin, on 05/07/2009, -2/+6The drug czar ARE NOT the boarder police who are subject to bribes, murder, rape, etc.
When police see on the street that pushing drugs underground vastly causes more crime, its time for a change.
What is the law for? our safety? think again, its to control us. what other reason could there be now? - inactive, on 05/08/2009, -1/+5Naldwell is correct. Apart from a probable short-term surge in usage as people "celebrate", the rate of usage probably won't change. How many pot smokers do you know who have a lot of trouble finding pot?
When they did away with the national 55 mph law on freeways, the only thing that changed here in Cali was that less people got speeding tickets. Same thing will happen with pot. - charlie6969, on 05/08/2009, -0/+3Because the "carrot" for the Government seeing our point of view is the tax money aspect.
Sad, but true. - guither, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Latest Zogby poll shows 52% in favor of legalization and 37% opposed. All depends on how you word the poll. This is no longer an issue that would toss out politicians -- they just think it is.
http://salem-news.com/articles/may062009/mj_zogby_ ... - djphilos, on 05/07/2009, -2/+4Can you imagine what it will be like if weed was legal?
- captainchris, on 05/08/2009, -1/+3business as usual. now with less killing : O
- CopsSayLegalize, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Details on the $5 badge fundraiser are here: http://www.CopsSayLegalizeDrugs.com/badge
- WiseWeasel, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1At the national level, the majority of voters are against legalization at this point, and so no politician would dare support it. They'd get tossed out next election faster than you can say "527 attack ad". Only state politicians in states with a majority for legalization will dare sound reasonable on the subject. We'll be there in a decade or so, but for now, this is not going to be a national issue we can win.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/02/americans-g ... - WiseWeasel, on 05/08/2009, -1/+2It's not that hard; try visiting Holland sometime...
- CaptDD, on 05/10/2009, -0/+1
Mexico's Congress just passed a bill decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of drugs (see San Diego Union Tribune) and that will set an example that American should consider when we begin having "open" discussions as Governor of CA and others have called for. BTW: folks that are fearful of publicly commenting on these US policies can comment on the Mexican policies without similar concern; which is a major plus for freedom of speech!
The amount of cash generated cannot be ignored in "these tough times" and may prove to be the incentive for more realistic policy "changes", which will lead to a much lower number of people being jailed at huge expense and also reduce the amount of money going to Drug cartels...
As far as the medical uses go, anyone actually interacting with those folks with MAJOR health/pain problems will understand just how bias these "studies" have been and how it has changed the quality of life for the elderly and chronically ill (FOR THE BETTER); despite what Big Pharmacy and the Private Jail Lobbies say! - inactive, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1Why so hostile, diphilos? Not sure where you live, but condolences. People smoke openly around San Francisco and nobody has any problem finding the stuff. I'm not into that scene these days, but I do know quite a bit of that which I speak, and don't think for a second I don't understand the injustice of current laws regarding pot.
- LennyPear, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1I'm not sure where my reply ended up, but you're right (and dugg). Bottom line: I'm just not crazy about supporting HuffPo or DailyKos. I feel like they are not encouraging responsible, constructive, intelligent dissent.
- ItsTwentyBelow, on 05/08/2009, -1/+2Why are you ***** all being so cynical? Imagine being able to just go down to the ***** store and buy some primo pot, whenever you want without having to depend on a buddy who may not pull through, or some ***** you don't even know who might end up having ***** weed. Imagine not having to worry about being ***** arrested for having weed on you, or in your car! I have friends who had their ***** apartment door busted in by cops with GUNS DRAWN because they were lighting up! It's insanity when you can't even feel secure in your home! Imagine the FREEDOM. How can you say nothing will change? *****.
- KritterKat, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1Doesn't matter how. It's just that if you get caught when it's legal, there are no legal persecutions to come out of it! No fines. No jail. Might depend on WHERE you are doing them though. Try drinking a bottle of whiskey sitting on a bench in front of walmart and see what happens.
- KritterKat, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1you'll still be caught
- consciouseffect, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1i would so vote for you but i dont think i get to vote on things like that =P stupid republic we need to get to the heart of the issue we need a true democracy!
- djphilos, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1Anyone who wants to smoke has to hide it and they barely have any control of the quality they get.
- SaladCactusKing, on 05/07/2009, -2/+2But you're Norm Stamper! So say Me for Drug Czar :D
- ItsTwentyBelow, on 05/08/2009, -1/+1I knew that's what you meant the instant I read it. It's gonna be ***** great when it happens.
- djphilos, on 05/08/2009, -1/+1"How many pot smokers do you know who have a lot of trouble finding pot?" Availability and quality are completely different. And yes, at times availability becomes an issue. Dont talk about something when you have no knowledge of the subject. Idiots just commenting to comment.
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