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- leffunov, on 05/27/2008, -36/+184Get an electric car, no fossil fuel. Ethanol isn't green, just greener. Why there aren't huge subsidies and tax breaks for getting out of oil is beyond me.
- jeremyduffy, on 05/27/2008, -1/+146I see your cartoon and raise you tens more:
http://www.cagle.com/news/CornFuel/main.asp - BishkekBuddy, on 05/27/2008, -16/+151Unfortunately, all too true....
- joegibes, on 05/27/2008, -3/+122SUVs should run on babies?
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -3/+91Bio fuels don't have to come from food stocks. Great strides have come from using algae for making bio crude that can be sent through our current refineries to make the same products that are made from regular crude oil.
One company says they will have their product on the market in as little as two years.
From what I'm to understand, one acre of corn will make 18 gallons of bio diesel a year. One acre of algae will make as much as 20,000 gallons. And with photobioreactors they can potentially increase that to 100,000 gallons. They can be built on land unsuitable for crops and the stuff left over after the oil is extracted can be used for cattle feed or fertilizer.
Go do a google search for algae bio crude and see whats going on. All we need is for our government to stay out of the way and we can be free from foreign oil in a few years. - sk11, on 05/27/2008, -7/+83Maybe if your government taxes didn't fund evangelical christian ignorance in third world countries, more of them would use condoms.
- borez, on 05/27/2008, -9/+83Biofuels: When the supposed solution is actually a bigger problem
- addysonclark, on 05/27/2008, -3/+76Food is for the weak. I drink gasoline. High priced tastes.
- Envark, on 05/27/2008, -11/+81Is SUV use more harmful to food supplies than overpopulation?
- mentallyinhell, on 05/27/2008, -10/+78Painful truth. And still people try and claim that food prices and fuel consumption (including ethanol) are unrelated.
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -20/+79Hay people, it takes a lot of money to build deserted attractions in the middle of the desert.
Do you think Dubai is going to built on reasonable oil prices? - orientis, on 05/27/2008, -10/+68***** you.
- OfNumbers, on 05/27/2008, -24/+78Yeah, since electricity is magically created by the outlets in your wall. There are no powerplants that pollute a few hundred miles from your home (or maybe even closer) to charge these magical devices in your wall. They charge THEMSELVES.
- dotlizard, on 05/27/2008, -11/+62"get an electric car" sounds just a little bit like "let them eat cake". hey, easy answer, just go buy an expensive new car that is unsuitable for long commutes!
if you're struggling to pay the cost of gas vs. food, buying a new car (with restricted functionality) is a bit more difficult than your glib comment implies. - inactive, on 05/27/2008, -1/+50Reminds me of this old American Indian poem for some reason..
eat money
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river been poisoned
and the last fish been caught
will we realise we cannot eat money. - MistaBell, on 05/27/2008, -5/+49I wish the algae biofuel / hydrogen scene would hurry up and take off.
- Brian48216, on 05/27/2008, -4/+48While the electricity isnt' pollution free, the amount of CO2 generated- as well as pollutants is much lower then the amount generated from fossil fuels that are pumped into cars.
- Envark, on 05/27/2008, -2/+44Ideally, yes.
- WorldLeader, on 05/27/2008, -2/+34Dubai is 90% tourism and investment banking. They know that oil will run dry eventually, so they thought ahead and based their economy on something more stable.
So they are probably laughing at you right now. : ) - protodon, on 05/27/2008, -21/+53Inaccurate because it implies that we are stealing fodo from the global south to run our cars when in reality they ain't got no food because apprently they have other priorities and depend on the north to deliver for free.
- MacEnvy, on 05/27/2008, -1/+30Well you would too if you got paid to do it :
- brentfoor, on 05/27/2008, -2/+31babys don't burn hot enough, i know from experience
- Duggan360, on 05/27/2008, -2/+28You love making mirrors
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/27/2008, -1/+26http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/flextech.shtml
"FFVs experience no loss in performance when operating on E85. However, since a gallon of ethanol contains less energy than a gallon of gasoline, FFVs typically get about 20-30% fewer miles per gallon when fueled with E85." - Absinthminded64, on 05/27/2008, -3/+27Big oil wants you to think it's true.
- BaseballGuyCAA, on 05/27/2008, -4/+27400 babies!
- davidrools, on 05/27/2008, -0/+23if only the US had such foresight =/
- nullity, on 05/27/2008, -1/+23"it takes a lot of money to build deserted attractions in the middle of the desert"
Just hire the Department of Redundancy Department, they can do it for 50% less and at half the price. - xtremesniper, on 05/27/2008, -4/+26What you can do is eliminate the idea that seems to have taken over this society somewhere in the early 00's that SUVs are the "cool" way to drive around town. A lot of people don't buy SUVs because they need the space (in fact, there are plenty of sedans that have tons of space); instead they buy them because they're socially acceptable (up until recently) as the best way to get around.
I live in a part of suburbia with no hills, or any elevation. The most elevation you see in these parts is a bridge going over a highway, and yet you see endless SUVs with only a driver and no passengers on their daily commute.
That kind of use of SUVs has to stop. If you are going to use the car as your means to get to and from a parking lot with nobody but yourself and without 50 cases of something large in the back, then get a compact car and go.
Bah! Forget it, this mentality will never die. There will forever be those idiots who think that it's their god given right to drive unnecessarily large and wasteful machines for no good reason, and there's nothing anybody can do about it. - BlueSkyfish, on 05/27/2008, -0/+21Ok, where do I get one? Oh, thats right, car companies in America won't produce them because they have a huge stake in the oil industry. Watch the documentary Who Killed The Electric Car. The only decent looking, affordable, mass produced electric vehicle was taken off the market due to "lack of demand" even though there were waiting lists to get one, and mass protests to keep them.
- Brian48216, on 05/27/2008, -0/+21While I can understand people who have less money,
Flex fuel cars that run on E85 are relatively new, and typically aren't exactly bargain cars.
Just look at the average highway during rush hour and you'll see soccer moms and businessmen driving giant honking SUVs that they have absolutely no need for.
Also, I don't know how long your commutes are, but newer electric cars can easily run 100 miles on a charge. - kenjura, on 05/27/2008, -2/+23Nuclear power: when a proposed problem is actually a big solution.
- ryaske, on 05/27/2008, -0/+18thanks for that mirror sir. i needed it
- curseoflou, on 05/27/2008, -5/+23anyone thinking fuel and food are unrelated needs a swift kick to the nuts for being a complete jackass.
- slahser, on 05/27/2008, -3/+20I came
- ClockworksNine, on 05/27/2008, -1/+18Where the hell did you hear that ***** of 40 percent effective? Last I checked, it was in the high 90's. Abstinence is the dumbest thing thought-out to prevent pregnancy as nobody will stop having sex. Those idiots in my high school tried teaching us this as opposed to safe sex and practically turned to television for education on this subject. Schools and parents should be teaching safe sex but no, we get make up White-American Bible crap. Human beings have been using protection for centuries/millennia (see: alligator crap and honey), how the hell did the idea of protection get replaced in the process?
- SirVizor, on 05/27/2008, -14/+31Looks like Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" had an inconvenient side-effect.
- drmangrum, on 05/27/2008, -9/+25I love the ignorance. The artist obviously doesn't know how to stay informed. Biofuels are now being made from algae and switch grass; Both of which offer far more ethanol/acre than either corn or sugar cane. In any event, only a very very small percentage of the corn crop is human consumable. Most of it is used for animal feed. Most of the countries suffering from food shortages can't afford meat. Diverting animal feed to biofuels has no impact on THEIR food costs.
What DOES have an impact, however, is the rising cost to transport and store food. BLAME OIL! It costs nearly as much to transport food as it does to grow it. THAT is the problem. - TheRealToma, on 05/27/2008, -1/+17It can also be sourced from many different areas, eg solar, wind, hydro and so on. Not just coal.
- theWrkncacnter, on 05/27/2008, -3/+19Jonathan Swift's babies.
- soccernamlak, on 05/27/2008, -1/+17There aren't huge subsidies and tax breaks for getting out of oil because the government makes money from oil. It's been a working, money-making system for 100 years now. As they say here down south, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Although one could argue in this case, if it's broke, milk it for all it's worth. Why do you think we haven't moved away from oil to a better energy source? Too much money involved with the production and selling of oil
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -6/+21Well there's that little problem of corn replacing American crops and European crops and not everywhere else's crops.
And the fact that these countries never imported grains from north american and europe, it's actually the opposite. We import from them, and we still do btw.
And the fact that they could never really afford corn in the first place.
And the fact that exotic grains such as rice have suffered greatly in the last two years because of weather problems and the destruction of agricultural land that is replaced by cities and industries.
And the fact that nobody has ever been able to explain precisely just how american and european corn subsidies affect the price of other grains in other regions of the world.
Especially considering that the rise of price of grains actually means more money for these countries that export their grains to us, they make more money with the same product for the same cost.
And the fact that the presence of corn subsidies is disproportionate to the rise of grain prices.
And the fact that these populations reached record highs and are grovely overpopulated.
And then there's the whole grain stock problem that nobody was able to link to ethanol production. Doesn't work too well when you look at the industry over a few decades:
http://www.earth-policy.org/Indicators/Grain/2006_ ...
But hey, if the cartoon says so, it must be true. - Terr01, on 05/27/2008, -3/+18"All too true?"
How do you know? Seriously! Give me the statistics here.
I'd point you to this article:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_19 ...
Among the highlights... WTF is causing the high price of rice? It's not being turned into fuel. It's also a staple on it's own, not just some "secondary corn". Yet it's price is also rising. Also, while corn prices are going up steeply, it's a tiny tiny amount of the cost you pay for cornflakes or even the milk from corn-fed cows. Now only that, but in the last year the USA's exported corn level HASN'T DROPPED. Yes, we could have exported more if it wasn't used for fuel, but there isn't some sort of sudden shock to the markets that people seem to assume happened.
AFAIK, nobody has actually made a statistical case for what the connection is between ethanol policy and the problematic food prices we're seeing. They just assume that the same timing means one caused the other.
I'm seriously interested in this, I'm not just trying to be a contrarian (although it is fun)... so ask yourself: Is it really factually true, or does it just *feel* true? - inactive, on 05/27/2008, -5/+20Mirror: http://uploadingit.com/view/635357_29mga
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -2/+15I have 10 days as the over/under split for when trolly loses his latest account.
- soccernamlak, on 05/27/2008, -2/+15I don't understand those people. It's like they think their food magically appears in the grocery store or there are local farmers that walk by foot to deliver all their food straight to the market's freezer or produce section.
- borez, on 05/27/2008, -3/+15You sir... are a true plank
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/27/2008, -1/+13The only thing worse than partisan pork bills is bi-partsian pork bills.
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