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- The_Wallbanger, on 10/12/2007, -15/+91FTA: "In his book, Goldberg makes it clear that the exchange is completely fictional. "
The dialog between Bernard Goldberg and Franken, as reported in Goldberg's book, is fiction. This is confessed by the author.
Why are right-wing pundits so bad at reading? - simplicio, on 10/12/2007, -11/+62I'm sorry. You're asking faith-based republicans to do the hard work of researching before smearing? You can't be serious! These folks go with the gut. They know what's right and they construct reality to suit their needs. All you elitists with your reading and book-learning and such!
- simplicio, on 10/12/2007, -16/+56See it's in a book, IN PRINT! It must be true. That's your "logic." By that standard, I have to ask if you are at all concerned about the Eye of Mordor from Lord of the Rings and if you think this Harry Potter fella can save us?
- simplicio, on 10/12/2007, -14/+52The quote is made up. It was satire. You conservatives prefer la-la land to the reality-based community. La-la land is where the Iraq war was vital to our security, Teri Schiavo was healthy and needed GW to rush back to the White House, and intelligent design should be taught as science.
The GOP is becoming synonomous with the party that just makes stuff up. So keep at it guys! The real question is, are there enough willfully ignorant religious fundamentalists to keep the Abramoff-corrupt GOP in power? - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36See, it's not that MrHappyClam is stupid. He just didn't read the whole interview, or the part where it's clearly made up--all of it.
But what's stupid is that MrHappyClam, upon learning that he didn't read well and then misspoke, will not correct himself, but will instead Clam Up and pretend it never happened. - dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -25/+54You probably think the bible is literal too.
- Kyderdog, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37Cheney / Rumsfield 2008
You can't serve as President and Vice President from Jail - Linzz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+32I hope he sues the pants off the Ohio GOP, uh and MYHappyClam, you might want to read that obviously fictional exchange before accusing the Democrats of making stuff up.
- d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25@MyHappyClam -- If you have mental frailties, I apologize in advance. However, I can't, for the life of me, figure out how you can have such a poor ability for comprehension. In the blog you posted, he is specifically making the point that, using Franken's "satirist" alibi, he can then write anything he wants. The entire point of the ensuing dialog is that it is fictional, yet you somehow not only miss that fact but then deduce from your misunderstanding that "The Democrats are at it again trying to mislead the public..."
Sometimes, I completely lose faith in the future, if only for a lack of basic human intelligence. - BrianHoliday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Goldberg was satirizing Al Franken in the way he satires others. He lies, but as long as it is funny it doesn't matter. Goldberg was attempting to show that it isn't funny when someone turns it around on you. What I find hilarious is that someone took Goldberg seriously and quoted him. Kind of plays to the stereotype that Republicans don't have a sense of humor. :)
BH - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20i was mad when the bbc doctoers the photo of the crowsds arround the toppling of saddms statue
i was mad when reutgers used those photos that frelance guy doctored.
I was even upset when the ap staged some photos.
I was mad when the senator actually added smoke to 9/11 pictures to make it look worse... like it needed it
WHy do you think people think it is acceptible to lie, when it is one side or the other... I dont like corruptions or lies no matter what party you are in. I would bet most people here on digg would agree. They dont want a corrupted gov full of dems lying to them, just liek they dont want a gop one or an independant one, They want honest government that stays true to the particular party values or claims made when voted into office. But noone wants to be lied to, even if the lies are things they want to believe.
I think you are making fun of fake people. - sereth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19What the heck does "Feel the Angry" mean?!
Sounds dirty. - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22"The fate of the free world depends on it."
Freer living without Habeus Corpus! - tsf5000, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20If you really believe it'll be Cheney / Rumsfield in 2008, you're a complete idiot.
- Chebyshev, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Good argument, I'm convinced.
- UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Twisted psuedo-underage erotica coming from the GOP...
I used to think something like that would be hypocritical on their part but lately it's just par for the course. - xenuxenuts, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20I'm not upset. I do wonder, would the right be upset if someone on the right were portrayed in a bondage suit and whipping a teenage boy in a business suit, implying kinky gay sex with pages? If not, fine.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@The_Wallbanger:
That would probably require some sort of intelligence. - timbug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The question should not be whether the quote or photo are real, but whether the Republican (or Democratic) Party should be engaging in this sort of meretricious campaign. Shouldn't we expect more for the Republican Party? What do Al Franken and bunny costumes have to do with the real issues facing the people of Ohio?
- philgmo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20True that. The GOP is toast in Ohio this election cycle.
- tpodr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13From the post HappyClam gave us:
FRANKEN: Yes. I'm going to tell you a secret, Bernie, because I like you. WE ALL HATE OURSELVES -- Frank Rich, Michael Kinsley, and me. We're self-loathing nerds who can't do much except make fun of other people. Why do you think I call people "liars"? Because it makes me feel better about—ME! Bernie, I'm so SICK.
FRANKEN: Do you like my hat? It's made out of tinfoil, you know
GOLDBERG: Thanks again, Al.
After reading that, there is no way I could have known it was fiction. - storm8956, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Republicans control democrats by making them angry? Man, what kind of talk is that? This is politics we are discussing, not elementary school recess. You need to have some more maturity. If you, as a Republican, want to debate, go ahead, but making people angry is just childish. If that is what half of America is about then we are in a sad state of affairs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yes, the quote is fictional and made up by _Goldberg_, not Franken.
That's _Goldberg_ joking about suicide.
Hey, I said he was an unfunny hack.
- alanspach, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20Desperate
- Aard88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Actually I would bet that Al thinks the photo is kinda funny. The intentional use of a fabricated quote, I would imagine, he is not very happy about.
- philgmo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Air America and Franken's show are both still on the air.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Big:
>Maybe someday Ohio can really just break away and become their own little Socialist Union. Where everyone can pay for everyones problems. Where is the opt out check box for my tax dollars headed into Ohio? LOL
Here's the funny part -- actually Ohio, along with the blue "rich" states, subsidize the red states in the south. So it's the Democrats tax money that flows to subsidize the red ("parasite") states. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15"Are you gonna STFU about freedom of speech, torture, and corruption - or are you a terrorist?"
- philgmo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15How, exactly, is that a perfect representation of him? And what "crap like this" have the Democrats pulled exactly?
- minorthreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10hmm.. it makes me wonder... Did an Ohio GOP member actually put on a diaper and take that picture, just so they could photoshop Franken's head in?
- GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The answer to your question is No.
Some Think Progress stories end up on the front page thanks to the efforts of Think Progress readers. There is nothing to stop them from all digging every single TP story.
My only gripe with their Digg posts is that they are frequently entered under the wrong topic. However, Digg users need to be responsible for administering the site. If something is in the wrong topic, and enough people mark it that way, then the story will get buried as it should. - UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Who can't take it? I think the photo is funny the only thing is that it's coming from an official GOP source not a message board or blog which makes this GOP campaign look desperate and childish.
- CanceledCzech, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@xenuxenuts
Hmm.... doctoring a photo of a conservative politician doing freaky bondage stuff... I smell a challenge! - dime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Do you mental midgets realize you keep linking to a site that is pointing out the fact that Franken never said that?
- zeeeej, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Nope.
http://www.airamerica.com
p.s. You don't seem particularly well informed, so I'll let you know that Air America is a "network." Al Franken's show is called "The Al Franken Show."
Confusing, I know. If I watched Fox News, I'd be confused too.
Air America filed for reorganization under Chapter 11 bankruptcy, but they aren't "under" any more than Delta Airlines is. - marmaduke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is official GOP literature, being spread around the state, not some random stuff off of a website.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@mookie
"Democrats are angry and pissed off all the time.
That's it, feel the angry, feel the resentment. It's easy to control you with it.
Cheney / Rumsfield 2008
The fate of the free world depends on it."
Eerily reminiscent of Emperor Palpatine in ROTJ "Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you." - Chebyshev, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10But from the party establishment in a state and not some random blogger or other internet moonbat?
- Cellophane, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Yes, there are. That's what's so sad about the whole situation. And scary.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Or like Rush Limbaughs talk about Fox: he _knows in his gut_ Fox is exaggerating, and he sticks by that regardless of facts or what people like Parkinsons Foundation say, because he _feels it is true_.
He actually used words much like that. Truthiness at its finest; who'd have thought Limbaugh was a Colbert fan? - brishchik, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10May be that's how GOP Jesus-loving fags and pedophiles fantasize about Al.
- seizures, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8They probably got the pic from Mark Foley's stash of teenage boys, and just put Franken's face on it.
- tpodr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"expect more for the Republican Party?"
No, this about par for the course. - tsf5000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Its hard to be funny when you've got a huge stick up your ass.
- Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'd like to know where thinkprogress got this report and why they think they can post it without providing actual sources.
I'd like to know why there are so many posters in this thread who aren't asking for the barest bit of verification.
I'd like to know why we're all supposed to mindlessly buy this story. - airship, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Once again, Steven Colbert has it right: That fake quote and fake picture of Franken have the FEELING of 'Truthiness' to the neocon nutjobs, so they can present it as 'truth'.
- GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5To: trenchcoat
The Digg system, as it currently stands, almost rests entirely on "gaming" it. Digg encourages sites to add Digg code to their posts so that readers can share the posts with people that read Digg. That's kind of the guts of the Digg system right there.
Yes, it is possible to take a large number of readers of a blog or any site really, and make every single story a frontpage story on Digg. These sites get thousands of page views a day. With a small digg button and some code, they can make a frontpage story on their site a frontpage story on Digg.
I don't know if that's a good system, but that's the way Digg works. - Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6First of all....has this "press release" actually run anywhere?
Second, could we have a bit of evidence on its origin, please?
I don't readily believe everything I read. This article and a PDF of some text with no picture attached is entirely unconvincing. - greenvortex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6There is no trick too dirty this election season. The Republicans are so desperate, they are resorting to blatant lies. And the Democrats are so fed up with having elections stolen from them, they have adopted Karl Rove's tactics. Both sides learned the Swift Boat lesson: even if your attacks are flagrantly false, keep attacking your opponent and the lies will stick. Such a sorry time to be an American. If it weren't for our free ketchup packets, superior plumbing, and wide-aisled grocery stores, I'd leave the country. [Seriously, those are the only things I miss about the U.S. when I'm overseas.]
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You're not suggesting that the GOP has violated copyright law by modifying and distributing porn without the consent of the photographer, are you?
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