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Obama's 'civilian national security force'

wnd.com — Obama made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded (as the US Armed Forces).

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  • angelbear44, on 07/15/2008, -8/+20The more I read about this candidate, the more afraid I get. What is the FBI or Secret Service? What is the reason for this so called "Powerful Civilian National Security Force" he is talking about? What will their job be? This is nuts! If I want to live in a country that monitors everything I do, I will move to Cuba, Russia, or even the middle east. I want need to live here.
  • letgeorge, on 07/15/2008, -8/+11The most frightening thing is the despicable left wing propaganda machine aka main stream media that is promoting bHussein Obama as the new messiah and savior will not question bHussein Obama on any issues. McShamesty who will not allow anyone to use bHussein Obama's middle name will not bring up the question of just what is a Powerful Civilian National Security Force so just who is. Maybe someone in the Constitution Party will. Someone needs to question the untouchables, Michelle and bHussein Obama. McShamesty, no problem he is not going to be elected despite the fact that the MSM is trying to protray this as a tight election. If either of these two frauds get elected the little left of the US's freedom under the US Constitution is out the window.
  • Temlakos, on 07/15/2008, -8/+14I wonder whether this guy has thought the matter through. The only "civilian national security force" this country needs is a citizen *militia*, which is you and me and everybody else who owns a gun. (Let's make sure that this militia has a K-9 corps, which means: Get yourself a nice, loyal Shepherd or Akita or other big breed. But that's another topic.) What Obama is talking about, if he's thinking at all, would be like the French *gendarmerie*--a Federal SWAT force. Now from a guy who comes from a political tradition of hating the military, this is a complete reverse.
  • soofan, on 07/15/2008, -5/+12we already have security forces in America, that force is the FBI, Border Patrol, State Highway Patrol, County Sheriffs dept, local Police Depts, ATF and on and on...We have enough security forces, we just don't finance them and let them do their jobs. We don't need some SS core controlled by a closet Muslim.
  • exgop, on 07/15/2008, -6/+12Oblah-blah is threat to freedom and individual liberty. He does not have the experience to be President. He does not have the patriotism to be President. Heaven helps us if this Commie pig gets elected.
    • Hiltonizer, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2I think experience is a BS qualification... any freedom loving American with a few economic and military advisors would be better than either of the 2 clowns that will receive the majority of votes.

      We're F'd.
  • jhrasta, on 07/15/2008, -6/+15Obama = Police State
  • nippinawassee, on 07/15/2008, -5/+7He's obviously been watching the CSI and other cop series - wants to have the black clad police force with FBI or whatever in large white letters across their shirts - very very impressive... Even the pathetic humane society of the U.S. now wears the dramatic black with HSUS in large white letters - makes perfect targets. All thug outfits like drama.
    • ccso8462, on 07/15/2008, -3/+4I think you are wrong on this one. He wants gold letters, not white. ;-)
  • Orwell007, on 07/15/2008, -4/+10This is really surprising. The Marxists terrorist appeasers have been wetting their pants and hyperventilating over the use of Private security forces in Iraq (Blackwater). There should be no doubts where the Marxists controlled democrat party is taking America.

    Maxine Waters - "We are going to nationalize the oil companies".
    Hillary Clinton - "We are going to have to take things away from you."
    Barrack Obama - "We are going to have to get used to eating less and not keeping our thermostats at 72 degrees."
    Democrat party - "We are are going to nationalize the health-care system."
    Dick Durbin - "Our military is worse than the Nazis."
    Harry Reed - "Oil makes us sick."
    Radical Left - Gave us the Speech Police, Food Police, Smoking Police, and Political Correctness.
    Enviro-terrorists - will give us third world status and living standards.

    Anyone see a pattern here?
    • LadyAmerica, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6DUGG UP, repeat, repeat!!!!!

      And they continually carp and scream about terrorist surveillance, profiling, etc., saying that our rights are being violated by Bush & the RePubs. What hypocrites!
    • Hiltonizer, on 07/17/2008, -2/+1unfortunately, most of America will choose the lesser of the 2 evils..... whoever that may be.
  • LadyAmerica, on 07/15/2008, -4/+8Secret Police:
    "Police established by national governments to maintain political and social control.
    Generally clandestine, secret police have operated independently of the civil police. Particularly notorious examples were the Nazi Gestapo, the Russian KGB, and the East German Stasi. Secret-police tactics include arrest, imprisonment, torture, and execution of political enemies and intimidation of potential opposition members." Britannica Concise Encyclopedia. http://www.original.britannica.com/ebc/article-937 ...

    The Dems are already trying to shut us up (so-called "Fairness Doctrine", etc.). Watch out, folks!
    • Leartiste, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1As a nation of diversity and ethnicity, there have been the so called good times and even then there have been matters hidden from the public eye. I bring this up only because, these regimes you've mentioned were true police states. The plethora of issues at hand are limitless, but this topic really is about "true democracy". True democracy, is a government ran by the people, but everyone needs to answer this question, are we? Remember the Sin's of our fathers, those things that happened in past cultures and civilizations are sure to doom us as a nation of people that have lost sight. Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Totalitarism!!!
      • LadyAmerica, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1We are NOT a democracy.
        We are a republic.
        There is a big difference.
        That's the way the framers of our Constitution set it up.
    • tangle70, on 07/18/2008, -0/+0This country was never intended to be a democracy. It was founded as a Constitutional republic. The founders hates democracies.
      John Adams
      "of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short lived."

      Benjamin Franklin
      "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote".

      Thomas Jefferson
      A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
      The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

      As for the sins of my fathers. Lets see I have American Indian blood, enough said there. My great, great, great, great (too lazy to count) immigrated from Germany. Shortly after arriving, he and other germans where moved to Germantown, PA because of the fear of a large population of germans in the area, is that ethnic cleansing? (later fought in the Revolutionary war and was given a piece of land in VA). My Grandfather and great grand father worked in a coal mine in WVA and lived in a company house, bought supplies from a company store and got paid in company script (16 tons and what do you get anyone). Later my grandfather's house burned down and he moved to OH and worked 2 and 3 jobs until he died. Another grandfather and grandmother where Irish(we all know how the Irish where looked upon for decadeds in this country).

      As you can see, my family's history was one of oppression and genocide. I hold no annomosity for this country. I love what this country stands for. I love the Constitution and recognize how blessed the founders where with the knowledge of human nature.

      Now for all the "my ancestors where oppressed" people. Suck it up, it wasn't you. Quit making excuses for why you are a worthless slug and be what you are capable of being with some effort. If you want to punish me for what ever do it like a man instead of sending some else. I had enough of it and am almost at my limit.
  • SOLGAARD, on 07/15/2008, -5/+2NOW THAT SHOULD SCARE-OFF, THE LAST OF HIS DEVOTEES.

    If not, well- even i- am a devout son of the Living God, a DISCIPLE of the Lord of Hosts- that MAKES ME, and every-other loving-son a TRUE-ARMY-OF-ONE. Least ways, with my Lord before me, there are not a THOUSAND men, who can withstand my presence.

    A "well regulated Militia of ONE". (it's not just a slogan anymore - arm-up).

    For those of you who don't know, that means "put-on" the FULL ARMOR of God, (and quit forgeting that shield-(that sword looks shiney, but it cuts both ways).
    • SOLGAARD, on 07/15/2008, -2/+1When i pointed-out, that this would probably be our last FREE ELECTION, did you take that to HEART, (or did you presume like a pagan- what was flying from my mugg was FALSE)-?

      If you BELIEVE GOD, PRAY.

      If you BELIEVE "IN" GOD, (ask Him, why you don't KNOW HIM).

      If the two prior postions, do not apply to you- we return you now, to your previously-aired "PROGRAMME".
  • Orwell007, on 07/15/2008, -6/+8LadyAmerica, the Marxists parasites have nearly succeeded in shutting us up. They have accomplished this through their invention of Political Correctness and the use of their Race-Baiting maggots. We must stand up and reject this speech control and the use of race-baiting. We have allowed them to dictate the debate terms for too long. As long as they controlled the flow and content of news and information, we were at an disadvantage. Do not allow them to continue to hide behind their innocuous sounding names like Liberal or Progressive. These freedom destroying parasites are socialists, Marxists, and hard core Communists.

    There are far more people who love their country than those Marxists who wish to dismantle it. Apathy has been our downfall. It will take a long time to defeat the self-serving politicians and replace them with leaders who actually understand the internal, as well as the external enemies we face. The time to start is now.
    • DuggDowner, on 07/15/2008, -8/+4The only time these rightwing nutjobs care about free speech is when it insults their opponents or it's overtly racist. Say anything they disagree with and they want you deported or hanged.
      • SOLGAARD, on 07/16/2008, -6/+3Let no shadow dull the brilliance of your argument, (kiddo).
      • Orwell007, on 07/16/2008, -3/+5Actually, conservatives find it advantageous for Marxists parasites to spout their venom. It exposes their complete lack of integrity, principles, and also exposes the shallowness of who they claim to be and what they stand for. It also shows the intellectual bankruptcy and hypocrisy of the rabid-left. Your hate-America rants and total disrespect for others define you far better than we could ever hope to define you ourselves. Knock yourself out, the world is waiting to hear your pearls of wisdom. Comrade.
      • DuggDowner, on 07/16/2008, -6/+3Trotskyites like you never let the facts stand in the way of your uninformed agendas. Please provide a source of me saying something remotely Marxist, assuming, that is, you can make that determination without Rush's help.
      • Orwell007, on 07/16/2008, -3/+5http://www.cpusa.org/
        http://socialistparty-usa.org/platform/
        http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/co ...

        parasite - The parasite is dependent on its host for its life functions.
        http://student.biology.arizona.edu/honors98/group1 ...

        Educate yourself from the links above and then compare the philosophy of Marxists, socialists, and communists with the policies and rhetoric from the democrat party and it's followers.

        You might also want to discover the difference in a Trotskyite and a conservative.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism

        Sometimes knowledge prevents people from showing their ignorance.
      • DuggDowner, on 07/16/2008, -4/+3Neocon=Trotskyite.
      • LastVisibleDog, on 07/16/2008, -3/+4DuggDowner = Ignorant Democrat Sock-Puppet Parrot whom numerous people call a troll

      • Orwell007, on 07/16/2008, -2/+1Why don't you bother to educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself? Do you know the difference in a conservative and a neo-con, or does it really matter? I have not read one post from you that shows an ounce of intellectual content. If you are trying to establish your ignorance - Mission Accomplished.
      • kayala, on 07/17/2008, -3/+2DuggDowner, these idiots couldn't understand political theory if they tried. They just stick to throwing around the "Marxist" label as if it means something. They think it makes them look smart, but it only ends up making them look like incompetent nitwits with no knowledge of the subject they're proposing to debate. It's kind of sickening.
    • HowIseeit, on 07/17/2008, -1/+0I read you loud and clear.
      See my web site at: www.readwhatisee.com
    • LadyAmerica, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Orwell007, you are 100% correct.
  • AMRICE61, on 07/15/2008, -3/+5If anyone has any doubt as to the socailist leanings of B. Hussein Obama, all you need to do is to pick uo a copy of The Communist Manifesto. He is more of a Marxist than Karl Marx himself.

    If he should win, I have but two words for all of you:

    CURRENT PASSPORT!
  • nutz2u2, on 07/15/2008, -3/+6I was going to say that Obama is a nutcase, but now I realize I need to add the word dangerous in front of nutcase.
  • Leeroy2534, on 07/16/2008, -2/+41. Inner city rebellion begins- 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years after election.
    2. Transportation is completely neutralized due to wide-spread attacks.
    3.State of National Emergency declared.
    4.Unable to quell insurrection President O requests UN troops to stabilize international
    commerce.
    5. Under authority of President O and interim government, weapons are confiscated.
    And more....
  • farmerjohn48pan, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Say hello to the New American Brownshirts! Don't worry, the state run schools have already indoctrinated and taught your children how to inform on you. Change you can believe in baby!!!
  • kayala, on 07/16/2008, -4/+5What paranoid garbage. Buried as inaccurate, and as a dupe.
    • LadyAmerica, on 07/17/2008, -2/+2Paranoid garbage? That's no doubt what the Germans thought too before Hitler inaugarated his Brown Shirt SSS & Gestapo. Same with the Russians & Stalin's secret police (later called the KGB.)

      Don't believe BHO said what's quoted? Go to following link (& advance to about 16 min into speech) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw
      • kayala, on 07/18/2008, -1/+3Godwin's law. Look it up. If you're so eager to compare people to Hitler, you might be surprised to see the uncanny similarities between Hitler's plans and your ***** messiah Bush's accomplishments. You're so eager to find resemblances between a German dictator and an American Presidential candidate that you'll fall for anything that little Farah tells you. Come back when you've learned to think for yourself.
      • LadyAmerica, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1Lady?, I DO think for myself. I do not support Bush - not anymore, anyway. What do you think a civilian security force larger than our military would be doing? Helping old ladies cross the street?
        Get real & stop falling for the Kos, MoveOn, DNC, HuffPo propeganda.
    • fwelch, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2You have a few or maybe many young people that write in these groups that have no knowledge of world history. And if they do it is history that is taught by angry professors or teachers that hate the U.S. So, history is distorted to their point of view. What would be interesting to see that history rears its ugly head in the form of another Hitler, Stalin in this country and then watch all these little bastards that agree with their professors run for cover or join the evil along with their professors thinking they are doing good and making change for the better.

      Then when it is there turn to be Captured, raped, tortured then they will scream and maybe say you lied to me you son of a bitch. God, help me. But then it is to late.... They have already set up a terrible government that they thought was a good government by their distorted ideas of what being humane means.......
  • HowIseeit, on 07/17/2008, -1/+3Fidel Castro was able to get a grip on the Cuban population with the institution of the "Vigilance Committees" - Spanish - "Comite de Vigilancia". There was one household in every city block that would do nothing other than to watch the activities of the citizens in their neighborhood and report to the Revolutionary government any subversive behavior. Those committees were the biggest contributors to the suppression of liberties for the Cuban populace in the early days of the Communist Revolution of Fidel Castro and in the years to follow.
    There is a big resemblance on the comments of Barack Obama about a "civilian national security force" and the "Vigilance Committees". What the hell did he mean? Such security force would be handpicked by Leftist Liberals in his administration to begin the Socialist downfall of our society. Why did the "Wall Street Journal" and "The Denver Post" deleted those comments from the transcript of his speech.
    This Obama Presidential race is getting scarier by the day.

  • HowIseeit, on 07/17/2008, -2/+2For you people out there that don't want Barack Muhammad to be President see me at www.readwhatisee.com
    • kayala, on 07/17/2008, -2/+2Racist much?
      • cashman57, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1What race?
      • kayala, on 07/18/2008, -1/+1The purpose of calling him "Barack Muhammad" is to incite a racist animosity against the man, whose real, full, oft-exploited name is Barack Hussein Obama; note the lack of the name "Muhammad". ***** you and ***** your bigotry.
  • HowIseeit, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Joseph Farah
    Good reporting on this article. Obama and his followers seem to think that he is made out of Teflon. If they get enough heat they will eventually respond with some kind of ridiculous analogy of what he really meant or really try to say. They will go on to believe that everyone will fall for his BS. As we get closer to the election and everything that he has said or done resurfaces; he and the his Leftist Liberal promoters will realize that everything will stick. When Obama gets under pressure and has to answer questions instead of reading a speech on a Telecom he will stutter his way into elections day.
    www.readwhatisee.com
  • djmcd, on 07/17/2008, -1/+4All of the so called "hate speech" law being passed will set the stage for this "national security" farce to inform on any citizen who does not toe the politically correct line of thinking. Almost everyday Obama says something that reminds me of "intolerance" of those who hold different viewpoints. Christian beliefs are already being attacked by all of the hate speech legislation being passed by various governments at the state level and federal level. Under Obama's administration look for the celebration of "Sodom and Gomorrah" and the prosecution of those who hold different viewpoints be they Christian or Jewish. Obama can call this a "national security force" or whatever, it is nothing but the "brown shirts" and "Gestapo" of the Nazi's or the KGB of Russia whose goal was to "eliminate" any opposition to the government by the citizens. "Hate speech" police is on the way when Obama takes office. Many of us who blog and express contrary viewpoints will most likely be targeted for "reeducation" in Soviet style camps like the communist used in the former USSR. The traditions of our country will be turned upside down as the far left will try to rewrite history with the blessing "President" Obama and his new civilian "security" force. May God save us from this new wave of intolerance being initiated by the far left, George Soros, Obama and others who would destroy the USA as we used to know it.
  • fwelch, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2Obama / Democratic party / Stalin??

    Whats the difference?

    Stalin had millions of his country men/women killed. If the Democratic had everything their way with the radical left Blacks and Whites how many Americans would be in harms way?
  • LadyAmerica, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3You can watch the speech and listen to him call for this civilian internal security force: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.". Go to following web site (& advance to about 16 minutes into speech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

    Interesting that these words were edited out of the transcripts of his talk that you will find on the web. (My transcript from Rocky Mountain News omits these words.) This omission discussed in article: "Obama's 'Big Brother' vanishes from speech" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

    Further interesting is the fact that the leftist loons scream and holler about wiretapping terrorists and profiling potential terrorists, yet they say nothing about "civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as our military. Hmmmm!!

    Then add the fact that the Dems are trying to squash all opposing speech in the media (by bringing back the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." etc, etc, etc


  • LadyAmerica, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3ADDENDUM to my previous comment:

    Then add the "Hate Speech Laws" pushed by Dems... and leftists enforcing "politically correct" speech/thought at universities, workplaces, etc, etc.

    Wake up folks, we're in very great danger of losing our God-given liberties.
  • cashman57, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1OBushma will continue to usurp our rights and he has been clear about that. If you look at his website you would think he never read the Bill of Rights.He thinks the only two reasons we Americans should have guns are;hunting, and target shooting.
    According to him "shall not be infringed" means "infringe it at the local level". He has always been against civilian ownership of firearms and has claimed that it causes more violence and increases the chance someone will get hurt.
    Part of that I agree with and have seen evidence of.
    One night in Wichita Kansas not far from the place OBushma's mommy was raised there were three burglaries which ended with three burglaries stopped by armed residents.
    The next three months showed a serious drop in the number of burglaries.
    Every place where we see gun restrictions we see more violent crime and because the police are focused on the war on marijuana they arrest more people for marijuana than for all violent crimes combined.
    In order for there to be security in a free state the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. When it is we see mass murders like NIU and the mall in OBushma's back yard. We have a national security force, it is called the second amendment in the bill of rights and we have a right to be secure, have a look at the fourth amendment.
    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "
    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
    What part of that does OBushma not understand?
  • Libertarian, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2Mr. Farah what you are missing is one simple fact; Obama is a screwball.
  • iamanamerican, on 07/18/2008, -0/+0
    Avoid the police state, vote for Chuck Baldwin
    • fuze44, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Is he a game show host? The New Gong Show?
  • tangle70, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1Patrick Henry said, "I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. ". It was true 233 years ago and it is still true today. The storms clouds are forming in the distance. Do we stand idol while the winds blow stronger or do we prepare ourselves for the storm.

    We as liberty loving people have stood idol too long. We need to stand up and say we had enough. Human nature at first is to look at bad things and hope they go away. We are at a time where we can not look away anymore. Talks cheat and we need to take some kind of action. Maybe a march on Washington, maybe a march on state capitals. Something beside running our gums while the powers to be slowly steal every ounce of liberty we have.

    Later on in Patrick Henry's he asked the Virginia delegation, "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?". When a presidential candidate can call for the SA to be formed, we are very close to the time where we all must ask ourselves this question.
  • tearor, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1Launch of the Civilian Response Corps of the United States of America--
    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= ...
  • LanaCane, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1This guy is BIG trouble. Check out the Whistleblower magazine on him - it goes into great detail. (You can get it from the WorldNet Daily.) If this guy gets in office, and you have a job, expect to pay 40% or more of your paycheck to taxes. He has pledged 0.7 percent of USA GNP to the UN to fight "world hunger." That's over $870,000,000 BILLION DOLLARS more than what we are paying now. And the UN would have control over the money to dispurse it as they feel necessary to fight world hunger. Whatever we do, we can't let this guy get in office - even if it means voting for John McCain.
  • PatriotSteven, on 07/20/2008, -0/+0We have a civilian national security force already.
    http://www.TheCrest.org
    Please start a chapter in your community if there isn't one there already.

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