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- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -54/+321As an independent I can say I'm quite displeased with both parties, their blatant disregard for the constitution, and all their other crap.... Obama is just more of the same, only he's more of a "cheerleader".
- duckless2nd, on 03/07/2009, -67/+318Bush does it = bad
Obama does same thing = best interests of America - inactive, on 03/07/2009, -70/+223There can be no criticism of our new President here on Digg. If you do raise criticisms, it means you're a conservative, right-wing, Rush Limbaugh listener. Can we not be Obama supporters, and still find flaws in his actions and policies?
[Cue the Digger who says "What happened to Digg? Stories like this used to be buried, reaffirming my narrow-minded views as superior"] - VarelseSoul, on 03/07/2009, -82/+201I am so very proud to say that I was not caught up in Obamania like so many others.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -36/+127So far, this is my one major disappointment with Obama, but it's not new. He voted for FISA after he locked up the nomination.
The thing I don't agree with is the smarmy 'I told you so' tone of the editorial. Obama isn't doing anything he didn't already signal in the campaign, and since I'm comfortable with 90% of his work so far, I"m giving him the benefit of the doubt. - thelastcivilian, on 03/07/2009, -11/+98I'm an Obama supporter, but for me, this is a bit troubling (even though his support for FISA isn't anything new).
If we're going to shut down Guantanamo, at least partially because of the lack of justice or due process, shouldn't the same standard apply to domestic surveillance? If there is suspicion of illegal activity, get a warrant. Is it that hard? - gailkim, on 03/07/2009, -17/+100Nothing will "Change" until people start standing up for themselves.
- monkeyrun, on 03/07/2009, -7/+66Seriously... didn't he vote FOR wiretapping?
You didn't see it coming? Really? - epicstruggle, on 03/07/2009, -6/+62Its not enough to be dissatisfied, you need to donate to a third party candidate, and help with spreading their message. We will not end this 2 party system by staying in the sidelines.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -14/+64A quick point a Redditor made about the use of the word "Dictatorship:"
It's sad that most of the young minds commenting here do not know, and will never know, what a real dictatorship is all about. Especially because they continuously insist that they have experienced one. All of you mock and denigrate everyone who has ever experienced a true dictatorship, including the billions of people currently living under such a regime.
If we were living under a dictatorship under Bush, then why was everyone from Bill Maher to Michael Moore to Jon Stewart to [insert almost anyone you've ever watched on TV] allowed to denigrate him on a daily basis with no reprisal?
- Goodish
Next point:
Obama supported the Patriot Act after he said he would repeal it. He also supported FISA FAA legislation. Stop giving Barack the same blind allegiance that Republicans did to Bush. You're not being a productive and responsible citizen if you can't accept that he has flaws that NEED to be addressed.
How is this "INACCURATE?" His voting record is right here for you to read:
Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it. (Jan 2008)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Homela ...
Please, re-educate yourself, freedomjoe. - weddle, on 03/07/2009, -32/+73CHANGE!?!?!?!?
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -5/+45While their tone is certainly to the Right, if you will (and can) ignore that for the moment, you'll see that the facts remain. Obama's legal team is using the exact same argument for executive privileges as Bush's legal team used (at least on these two legal matters).
- buckrogers1965, on 03/07/2009, -13/+53I hated the illegal secret searches of Americans under Bush and I am very disappointed to see the policy is still continuing, even actively defended, under a new administration.
I did not vote for any of the main stream candidates in the last election and gave money to several non main stream candidates.
<< Looking for the best digg down of my life because I am not worshiping either Bush or Obama. - murrdpirate, on 03/07/2009, -5/+44What is it you don't believe in this article? The fact is Obama agrees with the Bush administration on FISA. The Wall Street Journal isn't even disagreeing with Obama's stance, they're just pointing out that democrats were furious with Bush on the wiretapping, but they aren't saying anything when Obama is doing the same.
Are you claiming that the WSJ has their facts wrong? Can you back this up with any source? - bigbadbobbyb, on 03/07/2009, -7/+42Where did he say he was wishing Obama would fail?? He's simply saying he wasn't taken in by all the media hype and ridiculously high expectations of Obama as savior. Nothing wrong with that....
- samard2002, on 03/07/2009, -14/+46Can we please stop with the political performance art on Digg? It adds nothing to the discussion.
Stop telling us what the other side is going to say.
Stop telling us what's going to happen to a story's popularity.
Stop coming up with cute names to describe your "opponents".
It's like the house we all live in is burning and instead of fighting the fire, we're all just standing around arguing whose bucket theoretically holds the most water. - Hardataq, on 03/07/2009, -9/+39What's sad is that people are actually surprised by this. I was really disheartened watching even some of my close friends fall into his "change" chanting like he was actually going to be a different kind of politician. You said it well, he is a "cheerleader". He's like the Union leader who tries to make it sound his union isn't just bickering for more money and less work.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -7/+36Give a person (or company) more power or authority and generally they won't give it back. I'm disappointed in this development but not surprised. It's just human nature.
- Sherman901, on 03/07/2009, -20/+47Wow, I'm shocked.
No really... totally and completely shocked.
No, actually, I'm just kidding. - kaelyiesta, on 03/07/2009, -3/+29I think of Obama as more of an opportunist than a centrist or pragmatist. When it's politically advantageous, he goes for low hanging fruit that a lot of people like. When it's issues less popular or less publicly understood, he often follows the lobby or favor granting path. It's not so much about compromise as it is about political maneuvering.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -9/+33You tell me where I can find a third party candidate that doesn't blow major chunks, and I will.
- 5urr3al5am, on 03/07/2009, -16/+39the real hypocrisy comes in when a candidate says he's all about CHANGE of these types and then uses the power as an elected official to force his radical liberal agenda onto the USA.
- kingcam, on 03/07/2009, -99/+120I`m sorry but the credibility of the WSJ has fallen to such a low in the past few weeks that if you are willing to believe this article you might was well be willing to believe Fox News. (they are owned by the same person...)
- SemperFly, on 03/07/2009, -16/+35"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
- Janinco, on 03/07/2009, -4/+22
DasPainkiller, " I support Obama, but I will continue my support for those who will ask the tough questions."
I am not an Obama supporter, but your post was spot on.
If Obama isn't held accountable by his supporters, then he will have way more power than we should want any politician to have.
When the media has been tough on Obama (very rare), the media person was attacked, instead of expecting Obama to be accountable for his actions!
Those in government work for us, not the other way around, and they should all be held accountable to those who elected them. - AManWithNoName, on 03/07/2009, -10/+28As a liberal who voted for Obama, I can honestly say I don't mind criticisms of him, as long as they're based on facts, and don't start calling him ***** that he's not. This is kinda pushing it, comparing him to Cheney based on a single issue, but it never directly says "OBAMA IS THE NEW CHENEY", so I can live with it.
Anyways, this is disconcerting even for me (A very opinionated Obama-lover), and I plan on sending letters to Obama and the members of the Justice Department expressing my distaste for these actions. - rebrad, on 03/07/2009, -2/+19This "Obama inherited it" excuse is getting old and lame. Obama promised change. OK where is it? It's not in Iraq, not Guantanamo nor in privacy rights. The only thing I've seen change is the name of the boogieman; Rush Limbaugh for the Taliban. What good is change like that when we have real problems and real issues like the disappearing wealth in this country, loss of jobs and lack of ethics in our political leaders. These problems are our problems which make them Obama's and the "Inherit" excuse doesn't make anything better. Neither does turning words around but doing the same damn thing. ***** or get off the pot.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -7/+23"The problem is that Obama is a month in, and everyone is demanding, DEMANDING, he immediately undo everything."
For a lot of issues that is true, but these criticisms aren't new ones that came out of nowhere. People are raising valid concerns due to Obama's actions. Examples:
Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Homela ...
"Give the guy a break. He is a careful person, I would not expect him to do anything quickly without taking a little time study the situation and get all the facts."
No *****, he's an infinitely better President than George Bush, but not criticizing our President's policies is what got us into this mess.
Don't confuse a public that is critical of its government (finally, 8 years too late), with people hating Obama. I support Obama, but I will continue my support for those who will ask the tough questions. - OneOfNone, on 03/07/2009, -0/+16Same story; I also voted for Obama. Yet, NO ONE EVER should get a pass for screwing with Constitution. Does not matter if this is a sequel of a previous screw-up. This is too important for playing "our team did this, but their team did that first" game. Illegal surveillance must be repeatedly brought to light and opposed.
- Jlaugh, on 03/07/2009, -6/+21No I've never been a cool aid fan. But I have studied how government works and it is nothing but a fraud on the public. Our system of government gives us two choices who have been already chosen for us. That's why so many people don't vote.
- Rivetgeek, on 03/07/2009, -0/+15I did. I have to say I was impressed with the cgi.
- WIT415, on 03/07/2009, -0/+15How will you sign it without a name?
- gotamd, on 03/07/2009, -0/+15Is there something that is incorrect in this article? If not, what makes it not credible?
- gobbleplex, on 03/07/2009, -14/+29I distinctly remember predicting that the neocons would all of a sudden start to cry when a democrat inherited this power. Now they understand why we were trying to keep Bush from gaining it in the first place. Believe it or not we had *YOUR* interests at heart in this too.
- Hardataq, on 03/07/2009, -7/+21Right, because it was physically George Bush sitting listening to our calls. I trust Obama way more with my phone calls, because he seems like a nicer person on television.
You make my head hurt. - mhopgood, on 03/07/2009, -5/+19Who watches the watchmen?
- zacharytelschow, on 03/07/2009, -4/+18"Hearing the WSJ complaining about double standards is pretty rich--the double standard would be why we never heard anything but crickets while Bush was doing any of this..."
Bush didn't prance around like a jackass saying his predecessor was wrong on everything and then continue his policies upon arriving in office. Obama did. There's the hypocrisy. - MrFunStuff, on 03/07/2009, -0/+14"Looking for the best digg down of my life because I am not worshiping either Bush or Obama."
There's more people like that than you think.
Like me for one;) - gotamd, on 03/07/2009, -3/+16Why should this news not be on Digg. The story is either accurate or inaccurate. If it makes you uncomfortable, then good, maybe you'll rethink your political views or at least your support for certain BAD POLICIES of the government and the President.
- mcquitty, on 03/07/2009, -1/+14I called it a year ago. I said that the Democrats didn't care what Bush did, as they would get to benefit when they took power again.
True to form, it happened. - Jlaugh, on 03/07/2009, -5/+18He's only been in office for a few months give him time. It doesn't matter if he does or doesn't as long as he transmits unconstitutional power thru his office one day some president will be a Calligula, Nero, or Napolean type.
But let's look at the facts already Gitmo is still there, Iraq is still going on, Afghanistan is a problem, Mexico could be next, we are still bailing out banks that we should let fail. He hasn't got rid of DHS. The patriot act still stand, there are free speech zones, etc. - inactive, on 03/08/2009, -1/+13Obama voted towards the continuation of this practice.
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -2/+14When will you idiots stop seeing things as 'Liberals' vs. 'Conservatives'. It should be 'us' vs. ''abusive government'.
- norman619, on 03/07/2009, -2/+145urr3al5am:
Obama is paying back all the liberal politicians who helped get him in office. Why else would he be making the stupid choices for positions in his administration? He's not stupid. - badfish0116, on 03/07/2009, -9/+20Yes he does you moron. He voted to give telephone companies total immunity even AFTER saying he wouldn't vote for the bill.
- Sherman901, on 03/07/2009, -5/+16Does it matter what WSJ is doing? No, it really doesn't. They are an organization, not a government that spies on it's own people. Quit with the fallacies.
- oboshoe, on 03/08/2009, -0/+10Only an idiot trusts a Chicago politician.
- thedeadwalrus, on 03/07/2009, -17/+27I voted for Obama, and had high hopes. Unfortunately, it is more black check giveaways to wall street and sh****ng on the constitution. How hard big corporations own this country. Serious disillusionment.
"Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era — the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run . . . but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant. . . .
History is hard to know, because of all the hired *****, but even without being sure of “history” it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time — and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.
My central memory of that time seems to hang on one or five or maybe forty nights — or very early mornings — when I left the Fillmore half-crazy and, instead of going home, aimed the big 650 Lightning across the Bay Bridge at a hundred miles an hour wearing L. L. Bean shorts and a Butte sheepherder's jacket . . . booming through the Treasure Island tunnel at the lights of Oakland and Berkeley and Richmond, not quite sure which turn-off to take when I got to the other end (always stalling at the toll-gate, too twisted to find neutral while I fumbled for change) . . . but being absolutely certain that no matter which way I went I would come to a place where people were just as high and wild as I was: No doubt at all about that. . . .
There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .
And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting — on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . .
So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." - epicstruggle, on 03/08/2009, -1/+10@leodamascus: If there isnt one that your happy with, why not run for office. Put your ideas out there.
- offrdbandit, on 03/07/2009, -5/+14So what do you think of the "*****" "spewed" from "leftwing rags"? That's "*****" too, right?
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