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- Mtdewrulz, on 03/08/2009, -7/+78Where did these Digg neo-cons come from? This story is a result of financial collapse that occurred during the Bush administration. To blame it on Obama is... um... retarded.
To address the above comments, I'm far from left wing (I'm a libertarian) and I'm as suspicious of Obama's economic policies as the next guy, but we were heading towards fascism under Bush. If I had to choose between socialism and fascism, I'll take socialism. - MarsSentinel, on 03/08/2009, -17/+80How the uFck do you knuckleheads throw Obamas name into this mess?!?!? He has been in office, what, two months? YOUR president was in charge when this happened and Obama is trying to clean it up. Frigging rednecks.
- Meursault, on 03/08/2009, -9/+60It just about makes my head explode to hear people talking about the "Obama Economy" when he's been in office less than 2 months. The level of stupidity on the right takes my breath away.
- Colodia, on 03/08/2009, -6/+50I've lived in the Inland Empire since 2001, and I can swear that those people who bitch the most about illegal immigrants are the same people who hire them to do their work.
They're considered slaves to these people, who spit at them and then turn around and use them for cheap labor. - inboxnews, on 03/08/2009, -17/+50Yes, powerful stuff. I've lived here in SoCal all of my life. I'm moving this Thursday to N. Carolina to live with my brother. I'm taking my business with me. I cannot afford to pay the taxes here anymore as they are killing my business.
- diegotherobot, on 03/08/2009, -2/+28I live in Riverside, Ca. and I know first hand that everything she wrote is true. Everybody here is pretty much screwed.
- Nateon, on 03/08/2009, -1/+27So let me get this straight, your wishing hard times on average people just so you can prove a ***** point?
How noble. - Zarimus, on 03/08/2009, -5/+29Amazing how Obama has in his seven weeks of office completely destroyed the proud, prosperous America that George Bush left him, right?
The USA's economic woes come from bankers and insurance agencies destroying the economy to pad their pockets, not from the new administration.
All of the value lost in the stock market this year has been fake value people lied and cheated into existence. Good riddance. - inactive, on 03/08/2009, -14/+35Republicans and their corrupt policies created this mess. Hopefully people will connect the dots and will never vote for those bastards ever again.
- Roguecop, on 03/08/2009, -4/+19They are like those flying cockroaches, this far right wing menace: hard to get rid of, hard to keep out. You don't want to touch hem, to deal with them, but it is necessary. Otherwise they WILL infiltrate and divide.
- meckenrode, on 03/08/2009, -7/+21too damn sobering to read first thing in the AM. i want my Tom & Jerry time back but still this gets a dig for truth. speaking with friends across the country, this is not a lone story.
- poopsybythebay, on 03/08/2009, -2/+15You are an idiot. How dumb do you have to be to blame it on Clinton? God--where do you people come from? the trailer park?
- kibitzer788, on 03/08/2009, -4/+17For everyone blaming Bush, please tell me the piece of legislature he signed that caused this problem. Let me know exactly what it was.
For everyone blaming Obama, the market was already in a severe decline, and it takes time for economic policies to take effect. (Not that I agree with his policies)
For everyone blaming the Federal Reserve, thank God for you. - Rixar13, on 03/08/2009, -8/+20Until the 20th of January 2009, I didn't sleep for 8 years just praying that George W. Bush wouldn't make any decisions. I finally feel more secure that President Obama is attempting to undue some of the damage which will take time.
"I haven't slept well for about a year. For a while, I woke up at night to check on my daughter's Honda, which was broken into repeatedly". - poopsybythebay, on 03/08/2009, -3/+15I'm from Alabama nimrod and I gave Obama plenty of money--so wrong again--you should really get used to be wrong all the time. I'm sure you are probably riding around in your truck with a confederate flag and parking in front of your trailer.
- Mtdewrulz, on 03/08/2009, -2/+14There's this new thing they invented called "momentum"... you should look it up. It's pretty neat.
A 13 trillion dollar national economy that is intrinsically linked with the monetary systems of the entire world that was rocked because of an inherent flaw in the system doesn't just magically recover in 2 months. This stuff takes time. - inactive, on 03/08/2009, -2/+14The people who bitch most vocally about illegals live in states with virtually no immigrants of any kind. They freak out when they see a latino or jeebus forbid, a muslim.
- sammy_cda, on 03/08/2009, -1/+12Sad.
- LowRentDiggs, on 03/08/2009, -1/+12Woodrow Wilson was.
- cryofan, on 03/08/2009, -2/+11when they pay a living wage with decent conditions, americans will pick produce.
- gemlarin, on 03/08/2009, -1/+9For the last goddamned time, quit assuming that Obama is to blame for Rebublican *****.
- nonstop87, on 03/08/2009, -3/+11Obama can't make everything better right away...just because he comes into office doesn't mean things wont stop dropping.
- altinnovation, on 03/08/2009, -0/+8@ColonialRule
Clinton left a $559 billion surplus at the end of his presidency. - mablco, on 03/08/2009, -1/+9rednecks and tweakers.
- novenator, on 03/08/2009, -1/+9The worst I've seen is in the southeastern US. It's not even subtle there, its blatant and in your face. South Of The Border ring a bell to anyone?
- AlterLite, on 03/08/2009, -2/+10Maybe they shouldn't have paid outrageous prices for homes or even worse used their houses as piggy banks thinking that there was no limit to housing prices.
- smacksaw, on 03/08/2009, -4/+12As a native Californian, let me say that the Inland Empire should not exist. I remember it as a kid and it was nothing. I can remember when there were dirt streets and people rode horses in Riverside county. No *****. And that's how it should be.
California has two problems, and both are sustainability. #1, there are too many people using too much water. #2, California hordes all of the prosperity.
California is sunny and has good soils and good growing seasons. The water should be used for agriculture, not people. Then you have to tax everything to unreal amounts to pay for all of the crap the state "needs"...which might drive people away and lower the population.
If it were up to me, everyone born after 1984 would have to pay massive property and state taxes to live in California. It should have a few million residents, TOPS. And that is the main problem with illegal immigration in California as well is the strain it puts on the environment, especially water and pollution. There's just too damn many people there.
California needs to lose all of the people that moved there whether they are from Latin America or somewhere else in the US. With that many people you tax them into oblivion. And I would add that if we didn't divert so much water to California, a lot of illegal immigrants could return to Mexico and actually farm since they would have water. They could work for themselves instead of us and have some prosperity and not be a failed narco-state like Mexico. - OoO3xOoO, on 03/08/2009, -0/+8But the IE does. Always. Very conservative area.
- mlhradio, on 03/08/2009, -4/+11Ah, just ignore them - they are simply bitter because everything they have believed in for the past eight years has been proven to be one massive mistake. Now that everything is coming back to bite them on the butt, all they can do is lash out impotently at everyone who pointed and said "see, we told you so". They can't hiss and fuss at the people that got them into this mess (themselves) - because the are so far in denial it hurts.
It will take a while, but these dead-enders will start coming around when all of Obama's fixes start to take root and reverse the Bush Depression. But it's not going to happen overnight - it's like turning a huge battleship. Expect these sad, sorry dead-enders to keep sniping for another year or two. But like yappy little dogs, it's all bark and no bite, so easily dismissed. - Metalcard, on 03/08/2009, -1/+8I have lived in the IE all but 3 years of my life, in which I live San Bernadino County. I must say, I have never seen or heard of anything like this article describes in such a short period, and to just one person. Yes, these things happen, I've known people who have cars broken into and things stolen from homes, but they ALL lived in South Ontario and Chino and Parts of LA, which are far from the nicest places to live. Even then it was far from a common occurrence.
There are certainly areas that are not the best, Ontario, Chino, Fontana and Parts In/Near LA, but then they are filled with Gangs and the poor, there is even a place filled with tents and make-shift housing like the depression area shanty towns, but since these people don't work, and cant get a job since no one is hiring and it's doubtful any one will hire these select people even if they were hiring, its not going to get to get better without intervention by someone. - coopaloop, on 03/08/2009, -1/+8I'm surprised at the lack of Inland Empire/909 jokes on here. I guess not very many live in the LA, orange county, san diego area that constantly rips on the Inland Empire.
- PopcornDave, on 03/08/2009, -1/+8Screw that, how many minimum security prisoners are sitting in jails right now doing nothing? Let them work in the fields to work off their sentences. Let them sort the garbage for recyclable materials. We've got the labor right under our noses if we know were to look.
- Mtdewrulz, on 03/08/2009, -1/+8Way to change your comment after you'd been dugg down.
So, you prefer fascism then? You would rather the government tell you what you can and can't do in your personal life as opposed to what you can and can't do with your money? Obviously I wouldn't want either, but I was creating a dichotomy. I'd personally rather have the government in my bank account instead of my house. If that makes me a "left-wing hack" then I guess you can paint me blue. Have fun with your police-state. - BrentFail, on 03/08/2009, -0/+6 This story could have been about the Warren/Youngstown Ohio, Metro. area. Just replace "since last October" with "35 freaking years".
- phogasmic, on 03/09/2009, -1/+7what the f*** dies illegals have to do with that article? totally irrelevant comment, thats why I am digging you down.
- Mtdewrulz, on 03/08/2009, -0/+6haha, do you even know what that means or did you just stumble across it when you looked up the word "dichotomy" on Wikipedia?
A false dichotomy implies a failure to acknowledge the existence of a third alternative. I said right in my reply that I would prefer neither socialism nor fascism. Furthermore, I indicated in my initial response that I was a libertarian, which implies that I believe in the least possible government involvement (aka, the opposite of both socialism and fascism). I was simply taking party generalizations to their logical extremes (democrat's socialistic anarchism vs. republican's fascistic neo-liberalism) and saying that the ultimate vision of democrats is better than the ultimate vision of republicans. You just latched on to one word (socialism) and shut down like a typical neo-con sheep. - iAmAgirl, on 03/08/2009, -1/+6Mullets, cows, meth...
- ScottMitchell, on 03/08/2009, -0/+5What's depressing is that a good number of IE people moved there just to buy a house. I had two coworkers who, back in 2003 and 2005, couldn't afford to buy a house in San Diego. Rather than just renting and continuing to live in a community they liked working a job they enjoyed, they moved to Riverside where housing was more affordable (although still insanely expensive, IMO).
That lure to own your own place sure is a strong one, but one that is at times best ignored. - novenator, on 03/09/2009, -1/+6Troll alert. Must not respond!
- mobling, on 03/09/2009, -0/+5With the natural resources Mexico has, they could be a world class played in forty years, but every politician is corrupt. Every ***** one of them. Mexico could become one kick ass country given the opportunity.
- OoO3xOoO, on 03/08/2009, -0/+5You sir are correct, and I live in the IE. It's a hole. Smoggy, hot, crowded and full of oversized trucks owned by insecure asshats. Thankfully, I will out be out of it soon
- congnelius, on 03/08/2009, -0/+5I live and work here too. I consider myself very fortunate to still be employed.
- balthisar, on 03/08/2009, -1/+6Holy, holy, holy crap. I'm from suburban Detroit. It's not even /that/ bad here!
- tobymikle, on 03/08/2009, -3/+8This reads like a modern day Grapes of Wrath.
- inboxnews, on 03/08/2009, -1/+6That covers the corporation, not the person.
- Licurgo, on 03/09/2009, -1/+6***** im a mexican and i agree, they should stay and help build a better country,they are traitors
- strafefire, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4You guys don't get it.
You Incorporate in Nevada, you even have a box in Nevada.
But, your main business is in California.
LOTS of businesses do this including MICROSOFT!
And, there are companies out there that set all this up for you.
And, how to avoid paying large amounts of taxes with this method? Incorporate as an LLC and "pass through" all of your profits to yourself at the non taxed corporate rate.
You will still have to pay taxes on goods sold in California, but California, if you do this right, CAN NOT TOUCH YOU!
Of course, you'd have to seek REAL legal advice before you did this.
However, since you are moving to N. Carolina anyway, Delaware is ALSO a Corporate Tax Free State ;) - jbella, on 03/09/2009, -2/+6California's inland empire can't survive without illegals.
They are the backbone of California's multi-billion dollar agriculture industry, and they will be for as long as American's demand 5 dollar happy meals. - Mpwns, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4im shocked to see this is the 1st comment ive defending not buried. every time i bring up how this all started under bush and others its buried faster than you can click refresh. the far right is trying to take over digg and it is almost working. they came in almost over night as well and im sure some of you noticed.
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