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- netneutrality, on 01/08/2009, -6/+139Or they could just leave countries that they have nothing to do with alone and work on America for once.
- glasnostic, on 01/08/2009, -27/+131No aid to any countries who are committing war crimes.
- bustaballs, on 01/08/2009, -14/+103If Obama is serious, he'll permanently suspend all Israeli, Lebanese, and Palestinian support of ALL kinds. Financially, militarily, and anything else. It's not our damn business, it wastes resources that could be used for America, and we all end up having blood on our hands for supplying all sides with either money, weapons, or both.
-We give the bombs to Israel
-Israel bombs innocent civilians
-Middle East blames America for supplying weapons
-Middle East hates America even more - Fudgefactor7, on 01/08/2009, -47/+125Correct. The new administration (Obama) needs to put the smackdown on Israel. Cut off all support of any sort and tell them if they don't play nice with the next door kids we'll take their toys away. We are under NO moral, religious, or formal agreement that binds us inexorably to Israel. Who cares what the Bible-thumpers think. Security and peace is more important than appeasing the Jewish minority, no matter how vocal they might get.
- Uthman, on 01/08/2009, -27/+79Obama's running mate is a self declared Zionist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe5O8NJ9tXU
He verbatim says "I am a Zionist; you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist"
I would just like to append his statement by adding, "You only have to be a racist bigot." - pintomp3, on 01/09/2009, -12/+54But not unconditionally giving them 3 billion US taxpayer dollars every year would be anti-semitic.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -3/+38If Obama is serious,he must agree with whatever diggers say.
- freefallgrue, on 01/08/2009, -5/+35I have yet to see any benefit to being friends with Israel, except for the fact that they can field-test our weapons on children for us.
But seriously, it's all downsides, no REAL benefits. It's like my ex all over again. - psibladeZX, on 01/08/2009, -24/+50As much as I agree with the fact that he should cut off aid to a country that commits constant war crimes and against Palestine... He's not going to. Why? Because what I like to call "upper management" will not let him. Just like "upper management" has waged the industrial military complex for the past 50 years. Obama will have to fall in line with what they say or he will be the next JFK. (Kennedy didn't want to go into Vietnam, therefore he caught a bullet to the head). Not much is going to change unfortunately. As much good as he wants to do, people just won't let him.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -2/+28He'd actually have to talk about the whole situation first.
- ash7887, on 01/08/2009, -15/+38OK, let's compare Palestinian and Israel army weaponry
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Force# ...
Equipment Israel Palestine
NUCLEAR
warheads 150 0
High quality
main battle tanks 970 0
Medium, low-quality
tanks 1830 0
Supporting tanks 6930 0
and vehicles
Self-propelled
artillery 1204 0
Combat warplanes 875 0
Transport warplanes 84 0
Military helicopters 286 0
Warships 13 0
Submarines 3 0
Patrol boats 50 0
HOMEMADE
rockets 0 400
My god!!! Palestinians are real danger to Israel, just look at the advantage of
HOMEMADE rockets they have!!!! - Displace, on 01/09/2009, -8/+30During the new conflict-
Israel losses: 14, with 3 civilians
Palestine losses: 765, with 350 civilians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Isr ...
Yep, doesn't get much clearer. - drmobutu, on 01/09/2009, -6/+27What is it, exactly, that Israel does for us, again?
- ash7887, on 01/08/2009, -21/+41This writer of this article is either a moron or another hidden supporter of Israeli lobby pretending to be a critic. Talking about some jewish arse kissing...:
"Don't get me wrong. Barack Obama—as every other U.S. president before him—will protect the special relationship with Israel"
Ahhh, now i remembered that Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson were so inseparably close with AIPAC!
...And NO, there is no chance that Obama will get tough on Israel. Just check his team:
- Obama's vice-president Joe Biden is claiming to be a Zionist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
- Of course his 'right hand' - chief of staff - Rohm Emmanuel is a son of a Jewish Zionist terrorist and served in Israeli army in 90s. Our US secrets will be safe (NOT!!!) with him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohm_Emanuel
http://wjnoblog.com/2008/11/introducing-chief-of-s ...
Is Obama the first black as well as the last US president?
The modern political system in the US is a mockery of constitution and republic, and resembles more of a circus.... - kronzdigg, on 01/09/2009, -9/+28No aid to any countries. Why is it alright for the U.S. Government to take money from me (a lot of money) and give it to foreign powers? Where is that in the Constitution. I WANT LIBERTY.
- redfan, on 01/09/2009, -6/+25Seriously, the people of Gaza should just stop complaining about the Israeli economic blockade that prevents them from getting food, supplies, and fuel. It just makes sense.
- BabyWookie, on 01/09/2009, -10/+27Oh? Just STFU with this Zionist BS! Israel had stolen the Palestinians' land and for decades, has been systematically abusing, humiliating and killing them. Over the past few years, they have completely blockaded and isolated the Gaza Strip, undermined its government and starved its people. What could they have expected? Flowers and "thank you" cards?
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -3/+20Thanks for sharing that clip, though my expectations of Obama are lowered drastically, it was something I needed to see.
- gleongelpi, on 01/09/2009, -8/+25Dream on. Obama is more of the same, except more.
- Fudgefactor7, on 01/08/2009, -8/+24How dare you use logic? That's not the American way, my friend. Please report to your local re-education center immediately.
lol
Yeah, I'm with you there. - DrHoliday, on 01/09/2009, -5/+21No. Israel isn't poor. It can defend itself.
- AZRoboto, on 01/09/2009, -2/+17"Kennedy didn't want to go into Vietnam, therefore he caught a bullet to the head"
Whoa, man! - 471776, on 01/09/2009, -2/+17Oh yeah, and it does us so much good. What exactly do they help us to achieve? Most of the middle east still hates us - in fact, being allied to Israel makes them hate us more.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 01/09/2009, -8/+22No aid to any ORGANIZATIONS committing war crimes - like Hamas.
- gleongelpi, on 01/09/2009, -4/+18No. The whole fight on Gaza is about dispossessing the Arabs of the region (called Palestinians), and putting them in ghettos, hoping that somehow they rot and die so that more Jews can move in. How bout if I kicked you out of your house and you had to move down the street to live in a cardboard box under the bridge. And if you came back to try to take it back, the cops (USA) would take my side. No wonder 9/11 took place. It was blowback from our imperial designs, the most stupid imperial design for centuries since we have nothing to gain by it.
- Tynan, on 01/09/2009, -15/+28If all you remove their aid, Israel will be destroyed and replaced by an Arab autocracy. Is this ok with you?
- ltcdata, on 01/09/2009, -14/+27It seems the pro-zionist program is working here. I can smell the zionist comments without even reading them.
- clickmyface, on 01/09/2009, -5/+18Hamas is a terrorist organization. They blow people up. Not just in Israel. They were terrorists before they got elected, they were terrorists before Israel returned Gaza to the Palestinians in 1994. They have never - even as bombs rain down upon them - altered from that path.
That reality has nothing to do with "appeasing" Israel. - somberlaine, on 01/09/2009, -1/+13How about his chief of staff, rahm emanuel, who actually served in the israeli army.
- SuperMoses, on 01/09/2009, -0/+12@solid12345: Oh, so because it's happened in the past then it means it's okay and we should ignore it.
- SuperMoses, on 01/09/2009, -0/+12http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GaW8zC4LZA
This guy says it all. - rexprime, on 01/09/2009, -0/+11Why do we always have to play daddy to the world only to be spat on?
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -1/+12"Well, Zionism only refers to the belief that the Jews need to have their own nation."
And why do they need their own nation? One thing I've never figured out: are we talking Jew as in Judaism, or are we talking Jew as in ethnicity? Is Israel "One nation under G-d"? Or "One nation of Jewish decent"?
On one side, it seems a bit of a theocracy. On the other, it seems a bit racist. Both fall very short of the American ideal of separation of church and state and the acceptance of all races and religions. So how does one that favors American ideals support such a state? I've not been able to grasp that. - vincentml, on 01/09/2009, -11/+21100% false. Hamas has NOT "fired literally hundreds of rockets at Israel over the course of the past few years..."
In fact, the number isn't even 100 TOTAL.
Fact: Israel broke the ceasefire on November 4th, 2008. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOv0lMMNDI&fe ature=channel_page
Fact: Israel continued to sanction high profile killings of Hamas officials during the ceasefire, which was a direct violation of the terms of said ceasefire.
Fact: Israel continued to sporadically close border crossings, another direct violation of the very ceasefire they claim Hamas broke.
Fact: Israel fired smartbombs into a UN school, killing mostly children when they knew very well that this "target" was a school run by the UN. Un officials have since said that, beyond a shadow of a doubt, there were no Hamas "militants" near the school. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/ ...
Fact: There are protests in Israel every day, much like there are in EVERY modern nation on the planet against the Israeli offensive because first, it's barbaric, it is making the world a very dangerous place.
Wake the ***** up and quit regurgitation the propaganda you find on the ***** Internet. - inactive, on 01/09/2009, -3/+13We need to GTFO that region entirely.
I don't get why the US is taking sides in a religious war. We're just asking for trouble by pulling that *****. - BotchaMcCoola, on 01/09/2009, -0/+10Remember 911? The claim is that the principal terrorist, Atta, was mainly motivated by the Native Palestinian issues. He was a professional working in Hamburg. We don't know if there are more like him at all or where to find them. But just in case we should shut off the causes that drive those types. Luckily we did move the Prince Sultan Air Base from Saudi Arabia and that helped reduce one of the other main causes, a favorite of OBL types.
- BabyWookie, on 01/09/2009, -2/+12"Isn't the whole fight in Gaza about Israel defending itself from rocket attacks from a territory the vacated? "
The whole issue is that, after Israel "vacated" it, they also did every thing to isolate, undermine and starve it. - inactive, on 01/08/2009, -12/+21The country that receives the most US aid of all by far? If by leave it alone you mean cut that aid to the last cent and stop supplying them with arms and free ammo, I'm with you.
- Tynan, on 01/09/2009, -10/+19In a way you're right. If Israel was destroyed the area would probably be somewhat calmer, in the same way that North Korea is calm.
A better solution would be to find a way to convince the Palestinians to stop allowing themselves to be used as meat shields and human bombs by foreign dictators trying to distract the people from their own failings. - Tynan, on 01/09/2009, -5/+14US aid is about 15% of their military budget. So, they could probably do OK against just Hamas.
If all their neighbors ganged up on them again, they could lose. They would have lost before without the foreign help.
Remember, guys. 6 million people versus 300 million under the control of governments who are trying to kill them. Even if the 300 million aren't very organized... those numbers aren't very promising. - asskey, on 01/09/2009, -4/+13If you kept giving billions to every other nation in the region then I'd say yes...yes it is. Cut them all off, that would make things interesting.
- macdady843, on 01/09/2009, -1/+10Think of it this way.. If you're 5'7" 140 lbs and you punch someone in the face who is 6'2" 200 lbs and that person kicks your ass it's your fault for being a dumbass and picking a fight with someone who's bigger than you.
Just because Israel has better weapons and can cause more damage in retaliation doesn't mean they're the bad guys everyone makes them out to be. - lovek, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8That's true, if he's not careful morons may continue to be morons.
- MrHappyMan, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8Palestine is Bin Laden's ace in the hole. Its an issue he can always call upon to get people on his side ( if he's alive that is). Here is an issue that every muslim is upset about. Sort this and militant Islam would cave. Unless you believe its because "they hate our freedom"?
- zolthar, on 01/09/2009, -0/+7This sub thread discussion being overrun by retards who learned about politics from cartoons.
- chthonical, on 01/09/2009, -4/+12Zionism in a Nutshell: The Hebrews own Jerusalem. Hey brown people, get the ***** out. These nice Jews from Europe own this place now.
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -4/+12Could'nt be better stated...
- nepidae, on 01/09/2009, -11/+18And if we don't remove their aid they will continue to keep that area a hotspot of fighting and hatred, quite the conundrum.
- Tynan, on 01/09/2009, -5/+12Glad we have people here who are openly in favor of murdering millions of innocent people because of their ethnicity. Hear hear for honesty, you worthless *****.
- redfan, on 01/09/2009, -0/+7Yeah, how dare he do anything to resolve the economic crisis. What a crazy guy.
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