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- gronne, on 11/03/2007, -19/+162I don't know what the hell loneranger is talking about but it occurs to me that there are much better ways to honor God than by putting his name on a coin. How about acting more like his son and taking care of the people who don't have many dollar coins in their pockets and stop being selfish greedy little *****?
Just a crazy idea of mine. - inactive, on 11/03/2007, -11/+111That's a horrible argument and you know it. Our ancestors came to this country to escape religious persecution. Telling someone who does not believe this country was founded on Christian principles to get out makes you no better than King George.
Would you be happy if our money said, "In the Flying Spaghetti Monster we trust"? - Seizure, on 10/12/2007, -8/+80I, for one, would.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -9/+71No, science isn't a god, it's a method. Stop trying to drag the secular rationalists down to your level.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+68Our nation was founded on Christian principles?
I think there are people who might take issue with that statement. Like, oh, I don't know, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin to name a few, all of whom were Deists. - briankoenig03, on 11/03/2007, -22/+73I don't believe in God, while I believe in (and am a citizen of) this country. Therefore, I see "In God We Trust" being printed on our secular nation's currency as an affront to me. So unless you don't believe me, you can no longer be a conservative that doesn't "see the motto as an affront to anyone."
Anyways, the slogan is still there, just on the edge along with where it was made and "E Pluribus Unum". - AJRiddle, on 10/12/2007, -21/+62"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" Mathew 21:22
- DrinkingNyquil, on 10/12/2007, -18/+57How about "In Science We Trust".
Science has done more for this country, and for the world as a whole, than some unprovable diety in the clouds. - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -18/+57As an atheist, I shouldn't be forced to swear on a Bible, recite "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, or carry around legal tender with "In God we trust" on it, any more than a Jew should have to say "under Jesus Christ" or "In Jesus Christ we trust."
- AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -14/+52what a tragedy!!! where will christians go to see the word God all day every day???
this is terrbile.
[/sarcasm] - skankyBacon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41This is retarded...the coins still have the phrase, it's just on the side. If anyone is truly angry about this, they should probably try to look for something a little more important to worry about.
- gr4v3d1gg3r, on 10/12/2007, -7/+41Christian principals are almost gone .This is only symbolism . Hardly anyone would notice this phrase if it wasn't political .
- thebrokenlight, on 10/12/2007, -8/+39"The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion."
-John Adams - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+38This is probably a good time to point out that "In God We Trust" was added during the civil war in order to draw attention to the fact that Jesus was on the side of the north. Jesus loved the north, hated the south.
- Boor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26I don't get it, they arent "hiding" in god we trust, they are moving it out of the way to leave more room for the pictures of the presidents. As far as I can tell if they aren't outraging the republics, they are being practical in their design methods.
- FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26I think you're supposed to put coins in the slot.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27"And for those that would say evolution is sooo wonderful, then why is it still a theory and not a law?"
I don't think it's easy to set up a repeatable experiment showing evolution occurring in a lab that is good enough to illustrate how humans evolved from lower primates. - RpgActioN, on 10/12/2007, -9/+31@jjb123: "Weather not you believe it or not, I think we should keep it, it is an American tradition, our country was founded on these values."
Our country was founded on slavery, too. What's your point? - vindicta, on 10/12/2007, -12/+34"In God We Trust" was not printed on the currency in the US until the Cold war.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26This particular argument is retarded for multiple reasons not the least of which is this slogan was added to our paper money in the 1950s in response to the communists who were considered "godless". The excuse for the cold war most popular then had more religious overtones.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+38it's about time they stop sneaking fictional folklore prominently onto our currency
- Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33In god we trust shouldnt be on the money at all..good! get rid of it!
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787 - Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Our founding fathers were NOT Christians...
Heres just one source for you: http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
Google for more. The information isn't hard to find. - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814 - dizm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Well maybe the 80% poorest should demand the 20% richest give them all their money then? That would make things much nicer for that 80%! There's something called principles which are governed by a moral philosophy. Unfortunately, the world has lost touch with justice and is moving towards a majority mob rule. A mob rule that is more interested in short term benefits for themselves than justice and fairness for all.
- 8177, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29More people have been killed in the name of god then for any other reason.
-George Carlin - burnstyle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19""The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion."
-John Adams"
actually that was joel barlow in "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary,"
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." - archiesteel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23CTRaider: God has nothing to do with the establishment of American Society. Separation of Church and State ring a bell?
Oh, and guess when "In God We Trust" first appeared on currency? Hint: it was after World War II. - Flump5000, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17wow. im honored to have richard nixon on my country's money.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21One should never trust science. Science is a tool, not a way of thinking, and like any tool it gets dull unless it's constantly sharpened by doubt and disbelief.
Which is why science is useful, because it demands to be disproved constantly. Putting "In Science We Trust" on a coin would be an affront to science. - MyNameIsSIMPSON, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15How about instead of" In God We Trust", they replace it with a cartoon bubble above the presidents head with the caption " We'll Spend Half of This For You".
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823 - Muncher, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I like the "In God We Trust" motto but don't care where on the coin it is. I wouldn't call the edge of the coin "hidden" either...
- archiesteel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"This country was founded on Christian principles"
No, it wasn't. It was founded on the principles of a democratic Republic. Just because some principles overlap in no way means that the U.S. is based on a religious base, because it isn't. - Doug_E_Style, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17There is significant evidence that some of the founding fathers including Thomas Jefferson were deist. I think many of the presidents being placed on these new coins would be offended by the presence of the "In God We Trust" statement.
- AHue, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21@ Muyoso
Science is a way of collecting and organizing human knowledge. God is a belief. Those who dogmatically say science "explains everything" are not wholly correct, but those who believe that God explains everything ulitmately base their worldview on untestable faith that rests outside of any rational way of finding truth. - InvertedDonkey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17I don't really think it was "hiding". It was right there on the front.
- 4dplane, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19That phrase should be removed from all US currency; simple because it was never there to begin with - http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
- molsen311, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13wow! imagine this! seperation of church & state! weird....
- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23@lib24
You say that like it's a bad thing... - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Apocalypse], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, Jan. 17, 1825 - rtini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The phrase wasn't added to paper currency until 1957, when we were trying to rally citizens together against those evil Godless commies...
- carbonetc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16God is gonna be so pissed.
- Nearoschyth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10He served as president from 1969 to 1974. It's a little-known fact.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13If somehow our money said "God doesn't exist" would it be censorship to remove it? For the same reason that we don't have an official religion we should not endorse religion at all. The government and all its trappings need to be completely secular or it wouldn't represent all the people equally.
- dscx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I always liked "Standing on the Shoulders of Giants" which we have round the edge of UK £2 coins. Seemingly random quote but sounds impressive :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants
- fsnuffer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Whatever. Who cares either way. As a country we have bigger things to worry about. I could try to list them but I am so apathetic at this point.
- patrickloggins, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15MusicalGenius,
Evolution is a scientific theory just as gravity is. It generally holds just as much truth in the scientific realm as gravity. Also, Christianity isn't (entirely) law, so asking the same of Evolution doesn't make sense. - AJRiddle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15How is removing "In God We Trust" from money "bending for the 20%"
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