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- appleann1, on 11/14/2007, -36/+237Buried for a VERY MISLEADING headline.
Actual:
More than half of Americans—56 percent—say they're not proud of the COUNTRY'S LEADERS. Of course you didn't do this on purpose, did you? - allaboutdatiki, on 11/13/2007, -1/+100"More than half of Americans—56 percent—say they're not proud of the country's leaders. Two thirds and more say the country is in a leadership crisis. Nearly three quarters say the nation will decline without better leadership."
- AriaStar, on 11/14/2007, -16/+82Not proud? NOT PROUD?! I know people from ex-communist countries who dislike me for being born here, some reminiscing about how the old country was better than America now. "Not proud" is an extreme understatement. I am so ashamed of this country, not only its leaders, but its general attitudes on things such as parents leaving the raising of their children up to everyone else, suing over spilling your own damned coffee, and obesity being so accepted. Rudeness is out of hand, doors being pulled closed in a woman's face (this has happened to me) instead of holding it, short tempers, selfishness.... A lot of the people really are hardly better. They complain about the state of the country, yet do nothing. Not improve their own behavior to others, in many case, not even bothering to vote (rigged or not, it's good to try).
I am personally so ashamed of this country that I can hardly wait until I'm in Canada. Steps are being taken so I can get the hell out of here. - DesertDude, on 11/14/2007, -3/+58What do you expect? Their big debate now is this: "is drowning someone to near-death torture? Is that bad?"
- tucsonsun13, on 11/13/2007, -11/+55IM IN UR WHITEHOUS BURNIN UR CONSTITOOSHUN
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -3/+43My apologies... Digg has a limit on the no. of letters in the headline, and I pasted and didn't notice it had chopped off the last part 8P
- GRTWHT, on 11/13/2007, -2/+37I mostly agree, but I have to comment on one point: I was raised to open doors for ladies and have all my life, but in recent years I have been literally screamed at by women that are somehow offended by that practice.
"I can open my own damn door!", from a complete stranger...maybe this type of attitude is why guys aren't doing this as much as they used to? - holygram, on 11/13/2007, -4/+39If you aren't angry - you aren't paying attention.
- Stuart.n, on 11/13/2007, -8/+37Though the information is very interesting, it's probably inaccurate because the article is over a year old. It was originally posted on 10/22/06.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -13/+41More then half of Americans arent really doing anything about it. Just saying your not proud of your country and giving up. Shame.
- bigwrestlerguy, on 11/13/2007, -5/+32When you write a title make sure you do not exclude words that completely change the meaning of the sentance.
not proud of country vs. not proud of country leaders = big difference - mydigglogin, on 11/12/2007, -1/+27I listen to both kinds, country *and* western.
- anachronaut, on 11/12/2007, -5/+30"Of course you didn't do this on purpose, did you?"
Take a good look at the headline. In addition to being copied verbatim from the article, it appears to me that Digg itself pruned the headline, as it seems to be the maximum length allowed. It's _entirely_ possible and, indeed, quite likely that the submitter pasted the full sentence into the form and it was truncated to what you now see. It wouldn't be the first time it happened, you know... although admittedly it doesn't usually get neatly truncated at the end of a word like that.
Of course, it's much easier to have a knee-jerk reaction and and blurt out something asinine without putting any real thought behind your words, isn't it? - PopcornDave, on 11/12/2007, -0/+22There's no way to combat people who don't like manners. I open doors for people all the time and years ago women used to give me dirty looks , which made me do it all the more as an f-u to their feminism, but I'm starting to get thank yous more and more nowdays.
Don't give up the fight for manners. - stonedslacker, on 11/14/2007, -9/+29Self-deprecation works most of the time but not always. But then again maybe you weren't being funny and just realized something.
- JoshDaFink, on 11/13/2007, -3/+22http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp
FALSE - Chompy, on 11/14/2007, -5/+24I used to laugh with disdain at those "if such and such happens I'm leaving this country!" morons. Now, well..
..***** if New Zealand'd take me and my family we'd be on a plane tomorrow. This is no longer my country, and I'm not sure it's ever going to come back. - Lane, on 11/13/2007, -8/+25And the rest, they listen to country music?
- lukas88, on 11/13/2007, -1/+18Ashok, perhaps you are taking criticism a little too personal? Try to think of arguing on the internet as a game of nerf swords. People are going to say harsh things and have strong opinions. Since they don't know you personally, they are really attacking what you seem to represent. Face-to-face, they are probably a lot nicer.
By the way, did you have a lot of crack this morning or just a little? - AriaStar, on 11/12/2007, -4/+20We vote and the courts and politicians overturn it. So what I'm doing is getting the hell out of here next year.
- RobotBuddha, on 11/12/2007, -0/+13I hate to say it, but that might be the best choice. My branch of the family is the 'only' part still alive, simply because my great-grandparents jumped ship when hitler came to power. The rest were either in denial, or thought they'd just work to change things. Outspoken jews in Hitler's Germany, you can guess how long they lasted. I'm not trying to make a godwin, just to agree that a small minority has very little chance of effecting change in a far larger population when they really don't have much voice.
Leaving, however, does a few things. First, it removes the individual from the situation he wasn't happy with. If he's part of a skilled minority, that does create some small ripple eventually. Especially if it winds up countering a brain drain. As it is, huge amounts of American achievement in the sciences comes from people who immigrate here, rather than who are solely products of that system. Any country which becomes seen as a new head of scientific or other learning will instantly get a huge boost from that new influx of talent.
That said, I think a lot of Americans tend to be a bit arrogant about the whole immigration thing. The vast majority of countries have very strict, often more so than the US, policies on getting in. And being an American can actually work against you, not for you, in receiving citizenship. - Grumps, on 11/13/2007, -1/+13Who would be proud when their country spends more on foreign policies than in its very own country?
- inactive, on 11/12/2007, -3/+14You can thank feminism for the lack or respect for women. But more to the point, it's not that we don't hold doors for women that's shameful. It's that we allow our govt to wage illegal wars that kills 100's of thousands for profit, we allow them to use the Constitution like toilet paper, and all we care about is what Britney's wearing. If America becomes a fascist police state, we will deserve it.
- Tanyanika, on 11/12/2007, -0/+10That's awful. I find rudeness like that inexcusable when you obviously meant well. I'm not all that into men opening doors for me purely because I lack a *****. However I don't abuse them for it either. I'll smile and thank them for being thoughtful, and hold the next door open for them. Equality of status shouldn't be about no-one holding doors open, it should default to everyone holding doors open for each other.
- schnitzi, on 11/12/2007, -2/+12I'm not the biggest Leno fan, but I knew all that was too full of jingoistic idiocy to have originated from him:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp - inactive, on 11/13/2007, -4/+14Tons of crack. Remember that mound Pacino had in Scarface? Like that.
- octophobic, on 11/12/2007, -0/+9I hold the door open for anyone within a reasonably close distance.
- thebellmaster1x, on 11/13/2007, -3/+12Again, Kucinich is in no way a bad choice.
- gwolf, on 11/12/2007, -0/+9Actually the trouble with our leaders is that they are all as ignorant as you.
- hambend, on 11/12/2007, -0/+9Really? Man, I live here, and sometimes I think about moving to the states where I might be able to make some measurable difference.
It's a nice country, and the people are great, but New Zealand's not exactly immune to international politics. McCarthyism lasted longer here than it did under McCarthy himself. The UN -- presumably at the behest of the US -- publishes a Terror Watch List which lesser nations like ourselves are obliged to enforce with anti-terror legislation. If we don't, no-one is allowed to trade with us. Same deal with drugs. Of course, the police aren't so skeptical about where a law comes from if it gives them more power and recently 17 run of the mill gang members have been arrested on charges relating to "terrorist training camps."
So it's kind of a shame when right-minded people like yourself talk about leaving, while all the crazies and conservatives get left behind to run amok. And it's frustrating as ***** when Americans complain that there's nothing they can do, because if I was an American I'd be doing a ***** more than nothing. - evilxhwnd, on 11/14/2007, -2/+11now don't go and kill yourself
- tucsonsun13, on 11/12/2007, -6/+14let me know how it goes when you are in Canada -- I want some feedback and I might be right behind you.
- ZenMojo, on 11/12/2007, -1/+9Ceiling cat is watching you get waterboarded.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -3/+10Harvey Mansfield once said that Platonic reasoning about justice stems from anger - since we can put our complaint into words, anger might actually be a sign of the presence of mind.
Your criticism is noted, and I appreciate it. Will pay attention better. - techweenie1, on 11/12/2007, -2/+9I don't care how many Republicans say Giuliani is electable....this conservative ain't voting for him...quite frankly if ***** doesn't start improving then I'm definitely thinking the UK or Australia....and by improving I mean getting rid of Push 2 for Spanish..and the people who use it.
- blagoaw, on 11/12/2007, -0/+7"crazies and conservatives".. "some of us"?
Has the US has become so politically polarized that you can no longer discuss issues rationally? Growing up in Canada, I heard in the early 80's that Americans often consider themselves either "Republican" or "Democrat" and that people generally are not aware of the polarizing effect of a system where it is not uncommon for people to register with a particular political party long before the election -- and before the final candidate has even been determined. In Canada (as an example), a person may vote for the "Conservative" party.. but that person will generally not refer to himself as a Conservative, and will quite likely vote for the "Liberal" party in the next election without betraying a group or ideology. It is commonplace. At the time, I didn't quite believe in the difference.. but in recent years, it has become increasingly clear that it is, and that it has been a long time coming. Canada does seem to be moving more in the polarized direction, but has not yet gone nearly as far.
I have seen you here responding to comments.. and in your responses, you are primarily directing your attention to the personal nature of their attacks, and generalizing it to a larger group to which you perceive them to be a representative. Would it not be better if we all focused on the merits of individual issues and put the personal loyalties aside? I can understand that seeing others as members of opposing groups is a common (and often ugly) part of human nature.. but when you consider yourself a "conservative" or member of any other faction, you introduce a conflict of interest that is liable to color your judgment in just about any discussion of which you are a party. - Hananda, on 11/12/2007, -0/+7Well, New Zealand probably would. They've got a comparatively open immigration policy as they're looking to attract a lot of skilled labor. My understanding is that you can have citizenship in around 4 years, though I assume that's best-case.
- RobotBuddha, on 11/13/2007, -0/+7Do you have solid plans for getting citizenship in whatever country you're headed for? I'm "married" to a Canadian, have skills that are in demand there as well as a degree, and years later still have paperwork in progress. Despite the common assumption in the states, going to a border and yelling out "I'm an American! You're LUCKY that I want to live in your country!" isn't appreciated.
- ddawggin, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8Key word is skilled.
- anachronaut, on 11/13/2007, -2/+8"liberal lawyers have essentially undermined the Constitution"
If by liberal you mean corrupt scumbags working for the current Republican administration, then yeah... I suppose you're right.
Oh wait, I get it -- you're talking about the Second Amendment (have the dreaded liberals threatened any of the others lately? not that I'm aware of). I'll operate under the assumption that you're one of those rabid gun nuts who doesn't give a ***** about the rest of the Constitution as long as no one tries to mess with your guns. Face it, buddy: your guns (and mine -- I own a few) don't mean squat these days compared to the heat the government's packing, and the threats to the Second Amendment absolutely pale in comparison to the ongoing threats to the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments that the current administration is doing their damndest to destroy.
Do I want anyone messing with the Second Amendment? Absolutely not, but get your priorities straight -- it's not really the "liberals" you have to worry about when it comes to OVERT threats to our Bill of Rights. Christ, man... if you can't see that already by now, I'm just wasting my words.
Am I wrong? Please point me to these "liberal threats" to the Constitution (not counting gun control, as I've already addressed that) if you feel that I am. - stack3r, on 11/12/2007, -3/+9A Vote of No Confidence By Silla Brush
Posted 10/22/06
lol what?
Buried for being old or wrongly dated - inactive, on 11/12/2007, -0/+6Ditto.
Currently playing Johnny Cash, whose politics I don't agree with but whose heart can't be questioned. - MentalV, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6If I see you on the street I am going to near-run you over... you will in no moment, be in danger of being run over...
- spoonboy, on 11/12/2007, -2/+8The only thing that can make it inaccurate is the fact that maybe the numbers have gone up.
- halavais, on 11/12/2007, -1/+7FTFA:
"A total of 1,604 respondents were interviewed. Random-digit dialing was used to ensure that
individuals with unlisted numbers would also be included in the study. U.S. Census data were
used to weight key demographic dimensions to ensure that the study was representative of
the adult population."
A perfectly respectable sample for the purposes of inference. Someone in that survey represented your position. - 55sams, on 11/13/2007, -1/+7I just became aware of this site, via the Rollye James show.
http://cafr1.com/
Gov't is not out of control.
Gov't is in Full control.
15% of the population is starting to notice.
If you notice, you couild be targeted.
The guest on a recent Rollye James showhas suffered greatly.
He didn't elaborate, but mentioned the courts.
I beilieve that there was a great deal of accuracy, in what I was hearing.
All of which appeared to be more than plausable. - inactive, on 11/13/2007, -5/+11Yeah, I don't really read a lot, so I guess I'm out of the loop. Bangor's above comment seems to be exactly right about me.
Thank you for taking the time to respond! - Hazardc, on 11/12/2007, -1/+7Maybe next time you can go for the LIBTARD, maybe the LIEberal, or the new hottness... JIHADOCRAT
troll on brotha - PopcornDave, on 11/12/2007, -0/+6I'd like to see results from say the last 50-100 years to compare just out of curiosity. I know public opinion of Nixon was low, and Carter wasn't much better while in office, but I'd still like to see the data.
- gwolf, on 11/14/2007, -5/+11Given a choice, and I am not certain we were given a choice; I think I would rather be mad at my politicians for taxes than mad at them for all the blood on their hands. The current leadership is quite barbaric and frankly sadistic. Dick Cheney is a sociopath and I detest having someone like him represent this country in any way.
I retain my faith in our system because shortly they will be put on the trash heap of American history where they will be reviled for centuries to come. -
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