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- opticnrv, on 09/29/2008, -64/+382I can't believe the American people are sitting here and doing nothing. The entire world is laughing at you.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -2/+215Wait so Michael Moore and the House Republicans are in agreement... a pig just flew past my window.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -9/+165"From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we'll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents."
oh those pension funds and 401k's are next on the agenda, regardless of what the puppet "Dems" decide to do...
Viking raiders have landed in your country and have proceeded to burn, pillage and rape everything in sight.
Now they're looting the church coffers and retreating back to their pirate ships, to sail onto the next hapless shore willing to let them make anchor. - TWODPodcast, on 09/29/2008, -16/+142If Americans allow this to happen, we deserve exactly what we get!
- btschul, on 09/29/2008, -29/+134What do you want us to do? Write a letter? Take time off of work and buy a plane ticket and fly to Washington to protest? The real owners have made up their minds, and there is nothing we can do about it.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -9/+99The bailout didn't pass.
www.cnn.com - booksnmore4you, on 09/30/2008, -9/+95Osama bin Laden must be so pleased.
He's gotten exactly what he wanted over the past seven years through Bush ju jitsu. - inactive, on 09/30/2008, -4/+89Personally, I'm masturbating for peace. It's all I can do.
- macaca, on 09/29/2008, -26/+96"Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it's because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn't afford. Here's the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage "crisis" may never have happened."
Also high cost of health insurance made "Ma & Pa" businesses less competitive and they had to raise white flags against imported goods and big corporations. Well, literally most of the small businesses are shut down or shutting down. Welcome to USA ( Unarmed Stealing of America). - btschul, on 09/30/2008, -36/+104I am seriously considering reporting you for going around to all my comments and harassing me and calling me a "right wing shill". I'm a Libertarian, and just because I point out lies and smear against McCain, it doesn't mean I support him. I think that both candidates this year are dangerous, and there are so many reasons not to vote for either that we don't need ***** smear. As soon as I see one positive article about Obama that is true, or one negative article about McCain that is true, I'll be sure to digg it.
- brisbin33, on 09/29/2008, -0/+67a great thing indeed, but it'll be up for vote again, and again, and again... until it passes.
- honeybrass, on 09/30/2008, -2/+65Yes, we are the "fundamentals of this economy" so fundamental we have to "fund the mentals" who screwed it up.
- mediaphile, on 09/30/2008, -2/+65It's not a question of "allowing." Our government has reached a point where the major decisions no longer rest in the public's hands. We are not a democracy; we are a republic, and a broken one at that. We vote in people to represent us, but no matter what we do, the representatives make their own decisions. Popular vote means nothing; it's the vote of the politicians that matters.
Of course it's still important to vote, but condemning us for "allowing" things to happen is naive. - dobbinmon, on 09/30/2008, -17/+72hey obamadrone (TruthinessHurts) - shut the hell up and accept that both parties are gonna screw you over regardless
- JackpotCity, on 09/29/2008, -3/+53This is a very grave situation indeed. The guys that orchestrate very rarely take a salary cut or get named; it's little Mr. Tax Paying John Q Public who always ends up getting screwed. This is NOT on.
- infinitexx, on 09/30/2008, -2/+45Michael Moore has always annoyed me to no end, but that doesn't change the fact that this a good point he's making.
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -3/+42Unfortunately, we get it either way.
- 2600dblzero, on 10/01/2008, -3/+42Your house is on fire and you are going to call the arsonists who did it to put out the fire!
- larsone86, on 09/30/2008, -12/+51You won't be laughing when your economy collapses because it relies so much on the strength of ours.
- DealCracker, on 09/30/2008, -10/+48Sorry but that is just not correct. The mortgage crisis is due to foreclosures not bankruptcies. The majority of homes have been foreclosed upon because the borrower was in an adjustable rate mortgage. They could not afford the mortgage payment once the rates adjusted up so the lender had to foreclose. It has nothing to do with medical related bankruptcy.
Here is the truth if your mind is open enough to learn it:
http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace - chupavacas, on 09/30/2008, -0/+37It's interesting how freedom loving liberals, like Michael Moore and freedom loving conservatives like Ron Paul can agree on issues like this and meet up on the backside of the political spectrum. Had this not happened this vote would have gone the other way.
- DemiRonin, on 10/01/2008, -0/+30I Vote No bailout, I'd rather people not be able to get a loan for awhile then give certain firms money and others not. Bad Assets are bad assets, if you don't want em then why would you let the government buy em for you
I tried to send this to my congress woman guess what happened....
"""Messaging Service Unavailable
The House of Representatives is currently experiencing an extraordinarily high amount of email traffic. The Write Your Representative function is therefore intermittently available. While we realize communicating to your Members of Congress is critical, we suggest attempting to do so at a later time, when demand is not so high. System engineers are working to resolve this issue and we appreciate your patience.""" - Iphis, on 09/30/2008, -10/+38I love this guy. I remember the health care movie sicko and all the flack. When I watched it I wasn't terribly shocked but my wife is British so I know what effective health care looks like. Anyone who thinks the US health care system if fair, affordable, or better than socialized systems is either rich. very healthy (which I am but for all these damned Georgia ticks), or not very well traveled. I go to my childs doctor pretty regularly for ear aches and such and always wish I were in a British office. They have a better atmosphere, the lines are shorter, and the staff is nicer (and we have good health insurance).
- cadmiumpaint, on 10/01/2008, -0/+28isn't that the supreme irony....he out foxed Bush and now he's sitting back laughing at us tearing our selves apart.
- fakekevinrose, on 09/30/2008, -5/+33"I can't believe the American people are sitting here and doing nothing."
So um, what are you doing? - sereusx, on 09/29/2008, -0/+27Our government was bought and paid for long, long ago by those who hold the power of gold, and know how to manipulate the greed of the people by encouraging them to gamble instead of working with their brain and hands to produce a sustainable lifestyle.
- jdubdub, on 10/01/2008, -4/+28Why is that? Because we all buy American-made products? Oh wait -- Americans don't manufacture anything anymore.
Or is it because we are financially dependent on the US dollar? Oh wait -- the US dollar is at its most worthless right now, and Oil dollars are moving to the Euro.
So why will the rest of the world crash again? We may feel a sharp sting but it will be nothing to what the Americas will feel. - verevi, on 10/01/2008, -1/+24Wow, something weird is going on... Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh basically agree:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_093008 ... - sockpuppets, on 10/01/2008, -0/+22Qucik! To the diggmobile!
- inactive, on 09/29/2008, -8/+29For the most part except about the health care bit.
People defaulted because they had ARMS and loans they couldn't pay and the economy slowed down. They tried the stimulus package to keep the cash flowing; but people bought HDTVs instead of paying their mortgage (IMHO).
We were skating a fine line with Fannie and Freddie and the housing bubble popping has everything to do with it. - inactive, on 10/01/2008, -5/+26How much god damn effort does it take for you to take you cellphone and use your free minutes to call your Congressman??
- DealCracker, on 09/30/2008, -30/+50Micheal, why do you always assume that the Democrats are not responsible for government blunders even when they are in power?
Open your mind and check the facts. The war did not cause the housing bubble and subprime lending scandal. It was caused by bad government policies that were primarily driven by Democrats. Most of those Democrats took huge campaign contributions and other perks from the very institutions that caused this mess. Try to look past your agenda and find the truth:
http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace - mediaphile, on 09/30/2008, -3/+23fap fap fap
- pearcewg, on 09/29/2008, -4/+22Man, Michael Moore is one angry dude. I don't read his stuff that often, but when I do I'm amazed.
In this particular case, by some odd miracle, we agree...this bailout should never happen.
Not to get the "fat cats" per se, but to put Darwin back in action.
Alot of pension funds own big chunks of some of these companies, and I'm sure they will hurt along with the "fat cats", but we will be much better off in the long run to let this run it's course. - audomatix, on 10/01/2008, -13/+31Btschul: Holy ***** dude... will you shut up please? You have not said one constructive thing. The reason nothing makes a difference is because there are so many people like you! People who go on saying there's nothing we can do about it. It's one of the many reasons things have gotten so bad, because no one does anything! You discourage the will and the power of the American people (which I'm assuming your one of) and you're working against yourself and your rights. Look, you can bend over and take it if you're really so convinced it doesn't make a difference but today it did. The bill did not pass the house because of outraged Americans crying out. Really you're just spurring negativity and crying like a little bitch... "boo hoo he's harassing me" STFU or do something -->("[positive]")
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -2/+19@honeybrass: that was actually pretty clever. DUGG
- odigity, on 10/01/2008, -2/+19How ***** blind and naive are you, when Bush and his pals and raping us for trillions, have been for seven years, and you still call it a conspiracy theory?
Those government propagandists have really done a number on you. - wayback09, on 09/30/2008, -5/+22Oh no, not the entire world. It's amazing you were able to ask everyone on earth what they thought about the bailout. A++++ would flame again.
- speed722, on 10/01/2008, -0/+15Here is what the American public should do. They should band together and pledge to make a run on the banking system if any sort of bailout is put into action. If Wall Street wants to play games and makes threats, why can't we?
- Corrosionx, on 10/01/2008, -1/+16Ah good old COINTELPROAgent, still cheerleading for the government!
These people have drowned and parasited the economy, we can only be better off without them. Of course until there's a lawful monetary policy these things will continue getting worse, as libertarians and Austrian economists have been warning for years. - stack3r, on 10/01/2008, -1/+16LOL notice the Euro's actually remove the people at the top and replace them, then save their bank in one swoop.
Sorry, america fails..
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkqosRiyYo&eurl=
Also its a split, thanks fox - oldhick, on 09/30/2008, -2/+17Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a wise man listens to all sides. Mockery and condemnation are for the weak and ignorant.
- bjornski, on 10/01/2008, -1/+15Not really, or we'd have been sharing in the profits too.
This is CORPORATE socialism. Totally different.
The gains are privatized, but the losses are socialized.
Totally different. - btschul, on 09/29/2008, -5/+19I had to bury you for the ***** stupid candidate names.
- hutectro, on 10/01/2008, -5/+19Friends,
Everyone said the bill would pass. The masters of the universe were already making celebratory dinner reservations at Manhattan's finest restaurants. Personal shoppers in Dallas and Atlanta were dispatched to do the early Christmas gifting. Mad Men of Chicago and Miami were popping corks and toasting each other long before the morning latte run.
But what they didn't know was that hundreds of thousands of Americans woke up yesterday morning and decided it was time for revolt. The politicians never saw it coming. Millions of phone calls and emails hit Congress so hard it was as if Marshall Dillon, Elliot Ness and Dog the Bounty Hunter had descended on D.C. to stop the looting and arrest the thieves.
The Corporate Crime of the Century was halted by a vote of 228 to 205. It was rare and historic; no one could remember a time when a bill supported by the president and the leadership of both parties went down in defeat. That just never happens.
A lot of people are wondering why the right wing of the Republican Party joined with the left wing of the Democratic Party in voting down the thievery. Forty percent of Democrats and two-thirds of Republicans voted against the bill.
Here's what happened:
The presidential race may still be close in the polls, but the Congressional races are pointing toward a landslide for the Democrats. Few dispute the prediction that the Republicans are in for a whoopin' on November 4th. Up to 30 Republican House seats could be lost in what would be a stunning repudiation of their agenda.
The Republican reps are so scared of losing their seats, when this "financial crisis" reared its head two weeks ago, they realized they had just been handed their one and only chance to separate themselves from Bush before the election, while doing something that would make them look like they were on the side of "the people."
Watching C-Span yesterday morning was one of the best comedy shows I'd seen in ages. There they were, one Republican after another who had backed the war and sunk the country into record debt, who had voted to kill every regulation that would have kept Wall Street in check -- there they were, now crying foul and standing up for the little guy! One after another, they stood at the microphone on the House floor and threw Bush under the bus, under the train (even though they had voted to kill off our nation's trains, too), heck, they would've thrown him under the rising waters of the Lower Ninth Ward if they could've conjured up another hurricane. You know how your dog acts when sprayed by a skunk? He howls and runs around trying to shake it off, rubbing and rolling himself on every piece of your carpet, trying to get rid of the stench. That's what it looked like on the Republican side of the aisle yesterday, and it was a sight to behold.
The 95 brave Dems who broke with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were the real heroes, just like those few who stood up and voted against the war in October of 2002. Watch the remarks from yesterday of Reps. Marcy Kaptur, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Dennis Kucinich. They spoke the truth.
The Dems who voted for the giveaway did so mostly because they were scared by the threats of Wall Street, that if the rich didn't get their handout, the market would go nuts and then it's bye-bye stock-based pension and retirement funds.
And guess what? That's exactly what Wall Street did! The largest, single-day drop in the Dow in the history of the New York Stock exchange. The news anchors last night screamed it out: Americans just lost 1.2 trillion dollars in the stock market!! It's a financial Pearl Harbor! The sky is falling! Bird flu! Killer Bees!
Of course, sane people know that nobody "lost" anything yesterday, that stocks go up and down and this too shall pass because the rich will now buy low, hold, then sell off, then buy low again.
But for now, Wall Street and its propaganda arm (the networks and media it owns) will continue to try and scare the bejesus out of you. It will be harder to get a loan. Some people will lose their jobs. A weak nation of wimps won't last long under this torture. Or will we? Is this our line in the sand?
Here's my guess: The Democratic leadership in the House secretly hoped all along that this lousy bill would go down. With Bush's proposals shredded, the Dems knew they could then write their own bill that favors the average American, not the upper 10% who were hoping for another kegger of gold.
So the ball is in the Democrats' hands. The gun from Wall Street remains at their head. Before they make their next move, let me tell you what the media kept silent about while this bill was being debated:
1. The bailout bill had NO enforcement provisions for the so-called oversight group that was going to monitor Wall Street's spending of the $700 billion;
2. It had NO penalties, fines or imprisonment for any executive who might steal any of the people's money;
3. It did NOTHING to force banks and lenders to rewrite people's mortgages to avoid foreclosures -- this bill would not have stopped ONE foreclosure!;
4. It had NO teeth anywhere in the entire piece of legislation, using words like "suggested" when referring to the government being paid back for the bailout;
5. Over 200 economists wrote to Congress and said this bill might actually WORSEN the "financial crisis" and cause even MORE of a meltdown.
Put a fork in this slab of pork. It's over. Now it is time for our side to state very clearly the laws WE want passed. I will send you my proposals later today. We've bought ourselves less than 72 hours.
Yours,
Michael Moore - mykodacon, on 10/01/2008, -6/+20I DO NOT TRUST CONGRESS. I think they purposely did not pass the bill yesterday because they KNEW the stock market would take a dive and all their buddies could buy low. Then, they will pass it in a few days, the stock market will soar and you will have instant gazillionaires from this supposed financial crisis that is making all of them rich. No matter what mess we are in, somehow they are profiting.
- DuneChild, on 09/30/2008, -7/+21You do realize that most Republicans also took contributions from the same institutions, right? In fact, most of the money FreddieMac contributed to campaigns went to Republicans! Also, the majority of loans going bad in this country are not from the poor, they're from the middle-to-upper class "flippers" who got caught when the bubble burst. Poor people with no money for a down payment go to naca.com or similar organizations because banks won't lend to them. Sure, some got caught up in this mess too, but not enough to cause the entire economy to implode! I'm not saying Democrats are blameless here, but trying to lay the whole mess at their feet is disingenuous at best.
- pintomp3, on 10/01/2008, -6/+19whatever. the fundamentals of our economy are strong. mccain told me so.
- poxonyou, on 10/01/2008, -4/+16There are multiple roots to this problem.
- merm, on 10/01/2008, -5/+17Let's not forget there were 40 democrats that voted against this bill as well.
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