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- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -4/+38It just sort of looks like the Mexican policy is "our citizens are citizens of the world, but the world is not a citizen of our country."
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -6/+36"Contrary to popular belief, Mexico has very strict immigration laws which are enforced by every police agency in the country. The Bureau of Immigration can call upon any law enforcement officer to assist in their mission. Citizens from the United States traveling in Mexico without proper documents are subject to arrest as illegal aliens. The Mexican government has been very outspoken, critical on U.S. Immigration law enforcement efforts and supports Amnesty for all illegal aliens residing, working in this nation. It seems President Bush as well as most in the U.S. Congress and Senate are on the same page. If our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Immigration Codes are of no importance, our laws too strict, there should be comprehensive reform direct from the 1917 Constitution of Mexico." (from the article)
- eliezersilver, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29good luck with getting past #1
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Try that at the Mexico-Guatemala border. There are no Guatemalans walking into Mexico without passport and visa, and even then they will be given the third degree
- jbus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Sorry to burst your bubbles, but the illegal immigration issue WILL NOT be resolved. Why??? Because too many businesses (political contributors) benefit from low wage illegal immigrant workers. Both the local and federal governments benefit as well because most of these illegal immigrants pay local sales tax and property tax as well as federal income tax. This urgency about addressing the illegal immigration issue you hear on TV and online is nothing but *****. It's sole purpose is to fire up the emotions of people that will vote on this one issue. Kind of the same way people got all fired up about gay marriage and abortion by the GOP and the Bush campaign, but all this time in office and nothing has been done by the Bush administration regarding either of those issues. That's because those type of wedge issues are best left unresolved until the next time there is an election as a means to fire up the base. When will these people ever learn.
- TubaTechno, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11You mean there are absolutely NO Americans right now cleaning bathrooms? OF COURSE Americans will do these kinds of jobs, that's complete *****.
- OisinT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10why would you force legal aliens to get citizenship? That seems completely ***** up. "you've been living here for years legally, paying taxes, etc. but either become american or gtfo"
why? - johnn11238, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Ummm...
Enslaved????
Easy, there buddy. - lodleader, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10to chase001 - Title "Judge Puts Hold on White House Plan to Warn Employers About Hiring Illegals" http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295478,00.html yeah... bush is trying to hire illegals... that is why he is trying to stop it!
I must say, the past few days i have re-enjoyed coming to Digg because there were stories on the front page that were against liberals, dunno what happened, but it is about damn time. To finally have some articles and comments from the other side is great. IMO. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Do YOU want to pay a living wage and remove the "shame" for jobs that must be done in any industrialized country?
- faskippy, on 10/16/2007, -10/+19I am so damn tired of people who are such "politically correct" pussies, that they won't speak their mind when it comes to friggin illegal aliens. They are ***** criminals, whether you like it or not. Letting them get away with invading this Country has emboldened them to the point where they gather like roaches, take our flag down, put the Mexican flag up and fly the American flag upside down under theirs, and other such disrespectful *****. I call INS every time I see a group of them. This administration talks ***** about securing our borders, and waging a war on terror, yet they leave the damn back door open for anyone to walk in as they please, like it's some big secret that terrorists don't know about. Stupid friggin politicians, and stupid friggin simpletons.
- vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I think Miss South Carolina has proven that most natural born Americans have no sense of civics either.
- Zaetha, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12I have the Mexican constitution in front of me, you can read it too:
http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/pdf/1.pdf
Everything in this article is a lie.
1)Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
A)*****, that Article says that the law will manage how double nationality should be handled, that the jobs the constitution describes (president, etc.) cannot be given to someone who has double nationality, that in times of peace no foreigner should be part of the army, police, etc., that no foreigner should get a job on an airship or ship with a Mexican flag, and that for any job ON THE GOVERNMENT a Mexican should be preferred if the job doesn't require the nationality (president requires it, etc.)
2)Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
A)Another lie, it says that every Mexican is "citizen of the republic" if they have: 18 years old or more and if they have a honest way of life. (I think this means that if you are 18 years old you are covered fully in the constitution, like drinking, driving, etc.)
3)Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
A)Again, it doesn't says so. It says that no Mexican should be taken from his nationality, and that nationality for naturalization should be taken away if: they describe themselves as for another nationality, or using nobility titles for foreigner countries, being 5 years out of Mexico, working for foreigner countries without the Mexican government consent, for accepting medals or other military award for other governments without the Mexican government consent. And for helping a foreigner country or foreigner citizen against Mexico in a treaty or international court.
4)The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
A)This law doesn't even say anything about foreigners. I talks about how the right of any citizen can be suspended. Remember, nationality and citizenship is not the same.
Damn, I'm tired... if somebody wants me to debunk the whole article or if someone actually cares about it, reply and maybe I finish tonight, because I'm at work right now. - alliekins619, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Yeah I was gonna say, back in 2000 when I visited San Diego we went down to Mexico for the day, the security going in was quite literally a rusty turnstile. Coming back there was a 30 minute line where they checked all your docs and made you walk through metal detectors and stuff, but going it it was like Mexico was asking "Can you operate a turnstile? YOU CAN!? Welcome to Mexico!"
- backwithblack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7If you go a certain distance into Mexico there is much tighter security. Of course they aren't going to prevent tourists from spending money in their border towns. Try driving into the heart of Mexico coming from the US without proper documentation and then get back to me and tell me how relaxed Mexico's immigration policy is.
- Onyxblaze, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's because they DON'T pay taxes, so they can accept less money.
- dasomen, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11You're all a bunch of idiots. I know lots of gringos living here in Mexico, none of them legally, no one bothers them, many of them are being employed, and no one pays taxes. One thing is what's allegedly written in the constitution and other is what's done in reality, no one has killed a gringo for entering Mexico you bunch of jerks, we don't give a damn about foreigners living here, we get along, my neighbor is from Arkansas, I treat him with respect, no matter if he's not legally in this country, I don't give a damn who employs him, nor what he does with his money.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Law enforcement doesn't handle something of this magnitude. It'd be a national guard/various military groups joint operation.
I don't think they'd resist much with violence. Hell, they'd probably line up and get on the bus without even complaining. Why? Because it's so ***** easy to get back in.
There's no point in deporting people en-masse if they can just walk across 2 feet of water and go right back to the slumlord apartment complex on the east side. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6We're not even discussing immigration. Immigration is a key component of the great experiment that is the USA. Immigration is exactly what has made this country great and I agree with you when you say, "America has always had its vitality continuously invigorated by immigration.".
This discussion is about illegal immigration, illegal aliens, and the hypocrisy Mexican Immigration policy. - DangerCollie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Mexico: Do as we say, not as we do. At least on immigration. They want us to open our borders while they treat illegal aliens as criminals. Nice.
I find here in the US the discussions rarely make a clear distinction between "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant." I'm all in favor of legal immigration and welcome people of different nationalities and cultures. But, if you're here illegally, I'll hog tie you myself until ICE can come by and drag you back to the craphole you came from.
If you're here illegally, you're not entitled to anything as far as I'm concerned. Food stamps, a job, medical care and you sure don't have a right to expect us to educate your kid in Spanish. English, motherf***er, it's what we speak here.
One caveat to the above...some illegals have been here going on 10 years. They pay taxes, own houses, contribute. It would seem kind of unfair to treat them the same as someone hiking back and forth across the border. I could see helping them out with an expedited application process.
Still, it just doesn't seem that complicated. If you're here illegally, we don't owe you anything. Just like your government wouldn't feel like you owed us anything if we were in Mexico illegally. How is that unfair? - kinerry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes, but they did it LEGALLY you ***** twit
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You know what they say...CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
- crapmatic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Illegal immigrants are starting to leave Arizona months in advance of a new state law that will require employers to verify the employment eligibility of their workers. The departures are drawing cheers from immigration hard-liners and alarm from business owners already seeing a drop in sales."
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/61804.php
I have to say that I applaud what Arizona is doing. Here in Texas, some of the small towns I've lived in have been transformed into Mexican ghettos only in the space of only 5 or 10 years. I'm talking ghettos that are clearly full of illegals, not vibrant enclaves of Latino/Hispanic culture. The speed at which this is happening is astonishing, and I'm starting to notice the pattern is shifting northward into Oklahoma. These politicians need to enact a sane and rational immigration policy that welcomes the best of Mexican talent and labor, and cut off the floodgates that are eating away at our towns here. But I guess this will never happen because it will screw up demand for housing and Wal-Mart goods. - cassholio, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7anchor babies, not paying income tax, etc. etc.
- TubaTechno, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7you is smart.....
/sarcasm - digginestdogg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Every sovereign nation has a right to its own unique immigration policy crafted to meet national goals regarding immigration. And it is entitled to modify it at any time as goals change or are met. The key issue is who determines the goals. US immigration policy is meeting the objectives of the monied interests that control our government and it won't substantially change until their interests change. Or the vast public of voters convinces them it is in their best interest to shift them. The Founders of this country never considered the circumstances of immigration we face today and their Bill of Rights and Constitution weren't crafted to address them. You can bend and extrapolate them all you want, but its a sham if you do and you know it.
- pkonink, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Wow, "wetback." That makes you look really good. Thanks for outing yourself as a bigot.
- Apathetic1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Yeah....explain the Guatamalan situation then. why is the mexican army on the guatamalan border? why are there "safe houses" all along a path smuggling guatamalans through mexico? Of course you don't mind Americans coming we have money. Just like America doesn't mind Canadians and its not about race its about money.
- dasomen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I don't know where you live, but I live in Mexico, and I know that I'm telling you the truth...if you want to know more, and you're a member of the Rotary International, come to my city, Xalapa, Veracruz, you'll be amazed about how many people from all over the world came to this city and stays. It's amazing how many of you gets your 'facts' from your ass. Come here and see it with your eyes.
- dasomen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The truth is, he does not, He speaks lousy Spanish, but It doesn't matter because, as most of the educated people in Mexico, I speak a second language, maybe not so good, but better than his spanish, that's for sure. Mexicans are not trying to 'change your culture', they are trying to keep theirs. As I said, I don't care about what my neighbor wears, eats, nor what type of music he listen, or if he likes to dance or not. I don't mind my neighbor not knowing our anthem, or his lack of knowledge about or culture, by the way. Note aside, he has lived here for more than 10 years, we have a very tight automobile-pollution law, and despite the fact that he's driving a 1980's VW, he has not being fined, why? because he's foreigner, we even spoil you people. Have a nice day.
- bigp3rm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5In order for the NWO to work the world leaders need to lower the middle class to the lowest common denominator. They will NEVER remove illegals in mass because cheap labor is working and eroding our way of living. Politicians will continue to use catch phrases like "they do the jobs that no one wants". Illegals do those jobs because they have a lower standard of living and they are happy with it.
If you don't think the North American Union is in the works do some research. Forces are out to destroy the sovereignty of the United States as we know it, plane and simple. Take a look at how Bush Co has responded to Katrina. When they let all those people rot in the dome they were quick to label them as "refugees". As recently as last week Bush was in New Orleans and used the phrase "We care about this part of the world". Gave me chills.. - SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Honestly, i think Mexico is pretty close to being the last place on earth anyone should look to for advice. Why the ***** do you think all of their citizens are fleeing the country. They are run by drug cartels. They want more lax border control so they can keep making money through drug and human trafficking... that's all it's about. The Border is being watched more closely and it's making it more difficult for them to sneak their wares into the US. Meanwhile the 'peasants' are living in poverty, the gap between the rich and the poor being much larger than it is here, so there's really nothing the population can do... stay there and maybe starve or come here. This is what revolution is all about. At some point the people of Mexico are going to snap and overthrow their corrupt government. It may be something WE need to do here in teh US pretty soon.
- zensmile, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You are full of it. There have been significant efforts to change past unofficial policy. The UNIONS don't want it to happen. Guess who supports unions and vice versa--Democrats.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/31/immigrant.employers.ap/index.html - UWake911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4So money is more important that a Nation's harmony and society.
- tyaron, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5While I agree with number 1 on your list, I think number 2 is asinine. How the hell are immigrants ready for citizenship after one year? They will certainly have a lack of knowledge concerning American civics so basically you're increasing the number of ignorant apathetic citizens. Also, No. 2 doesn't take into account students who come to the U.S. to study, workers with legitimate permanent residency in the U.S., etc. Essentially, it's xenophobic bad policy and you're a dumbass for suggesting it.
- Victorioso, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Wow.. a foreigner can see what is going on, and Americans want to "fight" each other over it ? That's an eye opener !
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/ - Auto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3*****! Now where did I put my tin foil hat?
- cantoral, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5It is good that Americans and Mexicans know their neighbors constitutions. What is more important though, is that Americans and Mexicans know their neighbors.
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4OH MY GOD! I just saw your submissions! "Kosher Killers" about how the Jews were actually responsible for the Jack the Ripper killings? Brilliant!
- lookoutforchris, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5We fixed this same problem under Eisenhower, look it up. I guess Bush is so stupid he can't even repeat history.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The Mexican Government wants amntesty for all the illegals HERE in the U.S. That's the crux of this article. It's just another one of these retards that wants to let these illegal ***** stay here and gain citizenship. I have nothing wrong with letting people in on a work visa, i have nothing wrong with student visas and temporary situations. There are lots and lots of people out there who are waiting patiently, sometimes outside of the US, for their citizenship to go through, or so they are allowed to even try for citizenship. It would be highly unfair to simply allow anyone who can make it to dry land become a citizen. It would also be incredibly stupid of us to just allow anyone that touches land in our country to become a citizen. NO OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. Don't let these ***** fool you by saying how other nations have 'better' policies, it's actually MORE difficult to become a citizen in many other countries than it is here.
- huertanix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Americans do the same thing; Hell, I see an upside down flag on some white dude's apartment every time I drive to the theatre. I guess that means that American citizens are ROACHES as well, huh? Dumbass.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4yeah - just like the S&L bailouts? corporate welfare is on a vastly more large scale- this "welfare" stuff is chicken scratch.
don't be distracted - MrObjectional, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3........
- dasomen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4That exactly my point joemofo214, I know lots of gringos living here in Mexico, none of them legally, no one bothers them, many of them are being employed, and no one pays taxes. One thing is what's allegedly written in the constitution and other is what's done in reality, no one has killed a gringo for entering Mexicom we don't give a damn about foreigners living here, we get along, my neighbor is from Arkansas, I treat him with respect, no matter if he's not legally in this country, I don't give a damn who employs him, nor what he does with his money.
- hutectro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3True Americans will stand up and say what they are thinking not go away thinking let some one else do dirty work when comes to my Country I will fight for it especially when concerns the border and U.S. Constitution.
And also i don't see much in News about Mexican people protesting their Government and how bad living conditions are in their Country???????? - Victorioso, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hey man, we could put the illegals into the army..send them to Iraq. Then they could actually start paying their TAXES like we have to, and fight for the liberty as our own men have fought and died for in the past.
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/ - diggduggjoe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I do not care how long they are here, if they are illegal deport them. That makes the message clear that we are not messing around. If, I stole a car and used it to go to work for 10 years, do I suddenly become the legal owner because I used it to work and pay taxes. NO! If, we inforce our laws as written the problem would go away. As for our need for workers, I feel that wages would increase or automation will become the norm. I hate to say it, but most of all harvesting needs to be done by machines.
- perish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Their laws are just about null considering that the mexi-mafia has almost complete control in almost every locality and runs hundreds, if not thousands of wide-spread kidnapp & extortion schemes each year.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS222US222&q=mexican+extortion+of+us+citizens - HiCaP, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Just build the God-Damn Fence/Wall.
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