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- GiggaDigga, on 10/12/2007, -7/+86I wonder what would McCain say if it were Ahmadinejad singing "bomb, bomb, bomb Israel." Would he defend him telling critics to get a life?
- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+74I don't care which way you lean politically, McCain is a massive Disappointment.
"Straight-Talk Express."
Right... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -26/+84HA! Rightards think it's funny to kill people.
- saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Meh, an Indian student in my class who happens to know Farsi (he's from Mumbai) actually said that the correct translation wasn't 'wiped off the pages of maps' but actually 'wiped off the pages of history'. Meaning that Israel as a government historically, supposedly one of discrimination and violence needs to be removed, and replaced with one that is more encompassing and prudent.
Sounded a bit a apologistic to me, but I'm much more willing to trust a guy who actually read the speech transcript in the original language in the original language's newspapers than any 'translated' version in our media.
Just thought you guys might want to hear a different perspective. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+41And to McCain, I'd say, "Get a Campaign!" If you want to be taken seriously, make statements we can take seriously.
You know, for all the paranoids who thought that shooter Cho was the result of some MKUltra campaign, I'd say McCain may be the best example of someone who used to seem normal, if a bit conservative for my tastes, and is now certifiably loony. Radio Waves???? :) - oskite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Politics has made me despise the word flip-flop.
- SirRudy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23Are we ready for a president who gets cranky when he doesn't get his nap?
- MaynardJK, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32@littlebylittle
Exactly. I'm as conservative as they come, and I would vote for Hillary before McCain. - oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24no, i think he'd claim it was a threat, and he'd bomb bomb bomb them for the fun of it
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22you're right. he said to wipe the zionist regime off the map. regime change, where have we heard that term before?
- spoiled1, on 10/12/2007, -11/+26Although Iran never said that it will bomb Israel, but it is quite clear that the idea of "Bombing Iran" is a real deal in America and Israel.
Note to Israeli Apologists: "Ahemdinejad never said to wipe Israel off the map" - inactive, on 01/21/2009, -3/+16“ 'Please, I was talking to some of my old veterans friends,' he told reporters. 'My response is, Lighten up and get a life.'
When reporters asked if the joke was insensitive, McCain said: 'Insensitive to what? The Iranians?' "
If Kerry had said 'Lighten Up' to those who opposed his "joke" (which it was not) about the troops, the rightwing pundits would have crucified him in the media even more so than he did. But it's ok because it's about Iranians and not the troops (Note: I support the troops, just not the idiots giving orders) - TrojanGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Come on folks, I'm sure that if Ahmedinejad made such a joke directed towards America McCain would be telling people to lighten up. ;)
- nomonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Watching the real McCain emerge over the last few years has made me very, very sad.
What a joke. And I'm embarrassed that I actually thought he was sincere for a while. Turns out he's not only not better... he's significantly worse, given his transparent pandering.
Truth is, the politician he most reminds me of is Hilary.
I'm a liberal and would love to see Gore run and win... but frankly, at this point, I'd settle for someone frigging honest. Or even someone who TRIES to be honest.
I think that's why it hurts so many people to see what McCain has become... they thought he was at least trustworthy, regardless of his politics.
Turns out...not so much. - Kalibr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10If some political figure over in the middle east said "bomb bomb bomb, bomb the USA" -- I'm sure McCain wouldn't think it was so funny.
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11McCain was just playing to his audience. In this case, his audience was full of war-happy republicans, so...
- djKianoosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9DaveV, are you sure they mean it? does mccain really mean it? how do any of us know what's in any of their retarded heads? these are politicians. if you see the video you notice the person asking the question was making clear that he supports "sending an air mail package" to Iran and then quite a few of the crowd began to cheer. as a politician mccain did what he thought would get support from that crowd. death to iran is said in blatant and not so blatant ways here just as much as it is said over there, so everyone needs to just chill out and go back to their corner.
- nomonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Oh, and beside the obvious idiocy of a man who would be president revealing his foriegn policy via the Beach Boys...
The joke is old, old, old. For those of us old enough to remember, that was a parody song played endlessly during the Iranian hostage crisis decades ago.
So if you have enough of an underdeveloped sense of humor to think McCain was funny... he shouldn't even get that much credit. - Myko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's so funny to hear McCain get pissed that people 'misconstrue' his joke about bombing Iran, and just a few months ago John Kerry left leaves one word out of a joke and McCain says he should apologize for calling the troops stupid. Such a hypocrite.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Don't we already have one of those?
- djKianoosh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10saikhan, you're friend was right. it's one of the problems of not having a common language. misunderstandings like that can get out of control. now the whole world thinks he said one thing when he said something quite different. not apologizing for that bafoon, cause he's just as bad as Bush. but tensions didn't have to get to where they are now.
- Schwab, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Come on, what red blooded republican American (is there any other kind) wouldn't want to bomb Iran?
/end sarcasm - schlurp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Interesting, McCain wants to be the Mencia of politics.
Can't wait to see what happens when he figures out that any random statement becomes extremely funny when you shout it. - ElbridgeGerry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Get a Life"
Oops, I guess we're done. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@ DaveV
As someone who attended those (but never shouted anything) this is how it happens:
A couple of days before any national celebration (like Quds day - brought to you by Khomeini) a member of Basij (civilian division of Revolutionary Guards) came to our school and asked (read Ordered) the principal for the names of all the teachers who are "not" going to attend the demonstrations/rallies. The poor teacher MUST have a very good reason for not attending, otherwise he might not stay a teacher for long. The principal was also asked for a specific number of students that he must bring to the rallies (depending on size of school) and he failed to do so, well, he will loose his job.
This is just how it works in schools, consider government is by far the largest employer in Iran, since 95% of economy is run by government. (we have a few very small semi-private banks though!)
Did I mention an army of over a million people? civilian divisions several times bigger than that?
Then again, Tehran has a population of 8 million (12 million metropolitan area) and the governement never ever could bring more than a million people to streeets which shows the amount of people's opposition to such actions.
When western media shows those pictures, they never tell you the whole story. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7McCain is going nowhere. Best that he is allowed to dotter undeterred. Don't disturb his naptime.
- buckrogers1965, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6There is no liberal media.
It's all corporate media, has been for 20 years.
The myth of the liberal media is the big lie they tell us to make the other lies seem more believable. - williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15@bsmeter
Hillary is just as bad a neocon as McCain. Only she hasn't lost her marbles.
Vote for someone NOT p0wned by AIPAC. - 1longtime, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9@SqueakyWheel:
"Our service men die everyday thanks to Iranian made bombs and weapons, but you can go ahead and be a denier. Just like Iran denying the holocaust."
I understand how you feel, but think hard... do we really want a leader who is this flippant about death and war? Do you think McCain's comments and obvious urge to make more war establishes him as a good candidate? - offspring06, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7McCain should smarten the ***** up. Talking about bombing a country is nothing to joke about. Not everyone in Iran support their government, so killing innocent people is not funny.
- redfan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I used to think McCain was one of the good Republicans, but his actions over the past few months have convinced me otherwise. From talking about how you can just walk down the streets of Baghdad unescorted these days (while escorted by about 30 soldiers) to his support of the surge and invading more countries when we can't even get one right.
He's basically disappointed that we left Vietnam before the job was done and thinks his time there was wasted. The irony of course being that Vietnam is actually doing pretty well these days. Too bad he, just like the neocons, doesn't get that other countries don't like the high and mighty United States meddling in their affairs. - garryw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6War hero does not always = good president. Sometimes, but not always. He's too old, too much pandering also. Let him retire a hero.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5John McCain is totally and completely sincere when he says he knows better than YOU what is good for our security. Like going to war with Iran because Israel is scared of Iran.
- Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"I hate McCain as much as anyone... However, surely you see a striking difference in Israel and Iran? These ***** are the most bomb-worthy targets in the world."
Why not go for any of the nations which already have nuclear bombs such as North Korea or Pakistan. What makes Iran so much worse?
PS I do not condone invading any countries but I'm just wondering why everyone seems to concentrate on hating Iran. - catbeller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Iraqis are blowing us up, not the Iranians. There might be some egging them on. But that's irrelevant and intended to deflect.
We have installed the Vichy government in Iraq after we bombed their country to pieces and killed over a hundred thousand people. We lied as to why. We wrote their constitution, selected their political candidates, shut down their jobs, shoot anyone who looks at us funny, and jailed and tortured thousands of men and women, along with a all those amusing rapes of kids. The Iraqis hate our bloody guts, and they hate even more than that anyone who was installed as a government official or a cop under our supervision. They were invaded, killed, conquered, jailed, and then had slime put in power over them. They have been in hell for five years, and like any people being tortured, they are rising up and killing their oppressors. That would be us, yes.
This is what we would call an uprising by an armed populace. Y'know, the thing 2nd amendment fans always say they are armed to do if some foreign power or Senator from Massachusetts took control of the U.S.
The Iranian Threat is goddamned ***** in this context. Israel wants them dead, and we want their oil, which combined with the Iraqi oil we're stealing, would give us half the easily obtainable oil reserves on the planet. Please don't feed the neocons, they fooled you once, how can you let them do it again, in broad daylight? - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6wow, kerry's not even running and you're still swiftboating him.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Kerry was right, too. A draft is coming. Make sure your kids don't screw up their college grades so they can get a deferment.
- buckrogers1965, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7List of counties that Iran has invaded over the past 400 years:
Who is the aggressor again? - SammyJr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7To all the people digging me down, let me clarify so you aren't digging me down for the wrong reason.
I do not believe that Iranians are worth less than Israelis. I was suggesting that SqueakyWheel felt that way... - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5He used to be against torture, having been a torture victim as a POW. Now?
FLIP! FLOP!
That's the sound of Republican hypocrisy in full effect. - SammyJr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Get a life? A life is one thing that thousands of American soldiers and millions of Iranians and Iraqis won't have if we elect this Bush-loving warmonger.
- glaive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@Myko:
You're exactly right. There are a lot of well-educated people serving in our armed forces, and loads more who joined the armed forces to pay for school through programs like the GI Bill. I don't support the war - I've even protested against it - but I do respect people like yourself.
Thank you for your service to this country. - catbeller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4FOX News!
- paulbjensen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I find it amusing that 'Kerry' and 'flip flop' are used in the passage, but not linked!
Either way, I'd happily bet a small fortune that McCain will not win the 2008 election, so whatever he says is irrelevant. - perogi21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@SqueakyWheel:
"Our service men die everyday thanks to Iranian made bombs and weapons"
?? Many of the people killing our servicemen are Iraqis (some other groups but mostly Iraqis). Who do you think sold them the matériel in their war on Iran? Hrmm, the DoD needs to just look at the receipts. Just like some of the weapons that the Afghanistanis are using to kill our servicemen in Afghanistan.
On the topic at hand, I used to be a HUGE supporter of McCain. Then he felt the wrath of the Republican party and now he's stepping to their beat. What a ***** shame... - sidsarkar, on 10/12/2007, -17/+20@SqueakyWheel -- which holocaust are you talking about? The palestinian holocaust, the iraqi holocaust, the vietnamese holocaust, the latin american holocaust or the jewish holocaust ??
- unusualbob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6If hillary wins the election, i will shoot myself.
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3glynth,
Your narrow view of what constitutes a terrorist (and a terrorist supporter, for that matter) is a shackle on your intellect. If you knew what America, Britain, Russia, Halliburton, Blackwater, Bechtel, Coca Cola etc. do on a daily (and have done on a historic) basis, you'd reevaluate your position on Iran's magnitude as a terrorist supporter. - reed311, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5John McCain will do or say anything to get elected. The man, probably is a moderate deep-down, but he has whored himself out to so many groups that his real stance just doesn't matter anymore.
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