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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+77This is sad.
The right wing says we are at war with "extremists" because they hate our freedom.
So the ***** morons do their best to get rid of that freedom.
Remember when we had leaders who weren't cowards? - wynja, on 10/13/2007, -6/+41This war has never been about terrorists, unless you count the terrorists behind Bush's tenure in the White House.
Freedom is slavery; War is peace; We are not the terrorists, they are. - omenmedia, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24The War on Terror is based on a myth. If you haven't already, find and watch the 3-part BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear". It basically covers the rise of radical Islamists and the Neo-Conservatives, compares how the movements began and notes the strong similarities between the two. It then goes on to say how the perceived threat of global terror as a massive, organised operation is a myth, fueled by politicians in Western countries, in order to incite fear in the populace in an effort to retain their position of power. The War on Terror is perpetual - never-ending - and only results in massive amounts of military spending, fewer civil liberties than ever, and the deaths of thousands of troops and tens of thousands of civilians. Stop the madness.
- marcomc2, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27Yes, there is no "War on Terror". Its all exaggerated ***** that is getting less and less exaggerated due to what we are doing, our foreign policy.
I cant believe that what is on television here, on the "news", in the papers, is actually all propaganda - it is so insane to me.
The term "Homeland Security" alone reminds me of 1984 terms and subconscious brainwashing.
Anybody who hasnt seen this, check it out. And fine, Alex Jones is a little in-your-face, but my personal opinion is that this is exactly how it has to be now, people need to wake the ***** up, face the facts, DO SOMETHING. Start by watching these:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-649546276 ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-165688030 ...
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.
- George Orwell - lolwaffle, on 11/03/2008, -6/+26They keep saying the "terrorists" hate us for our freedoms. I guess that's why Bush is taking our freedoms away.
- nexah3, on 10/10/2007, -5/+24Fear Mongering.
- ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19Anyone notice how we are losing every "War on..." we've started?
- dschrute, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19"So, which rights have been given up? Which freedoms have been lost?"
Um, how about the freedom to bring water or toothpaste on an airplane. The freedom to get a fair trial when your being "held" by the government. The freedom to talk to a friend from another country without some government crony monitoring the call. Should I go on??? - onewingedangel9, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20Meanwhile the extremists say no such thing. They hate our meddling in their business. Hating us "for our freedom" is just a good sounding way to rally support around yourself since America is supposedly founded on freedom.
- GRTWHT, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21I don't agree with all his points, but the basic ideas/concepts are dead on. Too bad that he's probably on a 'watch list' now for having published those opinions.
- acu8509, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18If we don't have the rights, the terrorists can't take them away, and that makes us the winner!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16So, how many CCTV cameras are within a 5 minute walk of your home?
You have given up your privacy. And thats a HUGE thing to give up without a fight, but you brits have done just that. Not even a whimper.
Remember how all the cameras prevented the 7/7 london bombings?
Oh, thats right. THEY DIDN'T! - dalittle, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17There is no war on terror. Just like there is no war on drugs. Just stupid catch words to describe problems in a manner easy to manipulate people. (you will do anything to help win a war) Stop using these terms.
- mescalitospoke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11There are extremists who hate our freedom, they currently occupy the white house and have 30 percent of the population on their side
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13"I hope your see how this pertains to the crap you and others spew daily."
No, screw you. The Bush Administration has taken a dump on America and anyone who doesn't recognize that needs to get some perspective on things. - orangedog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Now that's funny...a guy who is so scared of the boogymen that he gleefully gives up his privacy is calling someone a coward
- UtahApocalyse, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Giving up your freedoms is the terrorists winning.
- ZedDrebin, on 10/10/2007, -7/+15Vote Ron Paul! Let's stop whining and do something!
- Spamcan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety will find themselves short of the $1.05 required for freedom."
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12This next election is important because I have high doubts anyone but Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul will give up the powers the executive and government has gained in the last 6yrs.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Politics is like religion.
Make enough stupid gullible people fall for your *****, make it hard for them to verify the facts, and they'll do whatever the ***** you want based on pure fear of what might happen if they dare think for themselves.
The word "Terrorist" is a good example. If this were the American Revolution, then those who fought so hard for our independence would be labeled "terrorists", and there would definitely be less followers of the idea.
Our media likes to spin ***** the wrong way. The reason there are "terrorists" in Iraq is because we invaded their ***** country. Just like here, if someone invaded our country to remove Bush, then stayed for years after the fact, you'd think, "WTF? When can we get our country back?" and (hopefully) fight back against the occupiers.
No different of a situation over there. People here think all middle eastern fighters are terrorists. - fnaqzna, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I have just one problem with the "war on terror."
How do we know when we've won? - iAlex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It is so pathetic. The neoconservatives have hugely increased the terrorists and have given them a free playground (Iraq). The neoconservatives said "They hate our freedom", maybe, but you do too Neocons. So, what do the neocons do? They remove your freedoms, by creating the Patriot Act, spying, not abiding the constitution which they have sworn to protect (can't they get to jail for not abiding it?). Why do you take away freedom from Americans, neocons? To increase your own power of course. Wasn't that what the terrorists wanted? You pathetic neocons have done exactly what the terrorists wanted, you have quite unsuccessfully fought them in Iraq, you helped them grow, you gave them a playground and recruit, you removed freedom from Americans (which you said the terrorists wanted - if they hate freedom, why do you remove it then? It makes no sense, except for you neocons, so you can have more control and power) and you have made the debt of USA much higher. And the war has killed a lot of people and created refugees. This mess has damaged USA's reputation around the world. This will be known as the great American policy disaster, and your ideology called Neoconservatism, is responsible for it and it isn't working. There are just a few people who benefit from this ideology, and they are the corrupt elite.
- omenmedia, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The War on Terror, by it's very nature, can never be won. Yet how much money will be spent and how many lives lost before the truth is realised?
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6FTA: "When you interrogate people based on the sense that we might be able to prevent a terrorist attack in the future, or go to war against a country that didn't attack us -- Iraq -- on a preventive theory, you put tremendous pressure on the basic principles of this country."
Not to worry. By the time 2009 rolls around, we won't have any principles left. - silentdragoon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- BeefBaron, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The "terrorists" would stop if Westerners got the ***** off of *their* soil, took our military bases and armaments off *their* lands, stopped killing *their* families daily, and stopped stealing all of *their* natural resources.
[AverageAmerican]Oh, but they're attacking us cause they don't like our freedoms[/AverageAmerican] - z3rgRush, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7War on Terror Casualties:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror_casualt ... - SignorDildo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They're not meant to be won, they're meant to keep feeding the Big Dollar to corporate America. It's a business plan is all. Good, eh?
- orangedog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You can't "win" a war on the abstract.
- Redemption289, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Leaders who weren't cowards... You mean like Andrew Jackson? Because I'm pretty sure he wasn't too great of a guy either. But yeah, I definitely agree with you. Although, according to that logic, when all our freedoms are gone, terrorists will no longer hate us. heh.
- onewingedangel9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That's it, I'm tired of you talking. I'm declaring a war on commenting.
- vjeko, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9sry bad post digg me down.
- Godlike, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Sounds just like a modern American conservative, five paragraphs that have nothing at all to do with the issue at hand surrounded by a toddlers cry of arrogance.
You see government as the essential establishment of a country, when what it should be is a tool of the people. - orangedog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Right...it's cool until it happens to me. But that can never, ever happen...right?
I mean, it can never happen to the trade unionists, communists or jews so therefore it can't happen to me. - SignorDildo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6You aren't giving up your rights to these so-called terrorists, it's the true terrorists that are taking them away - the real bad guys who wear suits, not rags. Hate-filled nationalist propaganda is terrorism in all but name.
- Synthos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Timothy McVei didn't need a global network to do what he did.
Terrorism is easy. Attack the root of the problem, not the symptoms. - omenmedia, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Great and insightful comment. Over there, *we* are the terrorists, and while I'm sure having Saddam as your leader was not a desirable concept, the celebration of the Iraqi people was very short lived after his fall from power, as they realised the occupying forces would be around for a long, *long* time. Your analogy is spot on, how would we feel if an invading force came into our country, removed our leaders, and then stuck around? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be too happy about it.
- TheSavant, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6America used to be "The land of the free and the the home of the brave," Now we are nothing but scared little children hoping our daddy in the White House will protect us from the boogyman. Time to stand up and scream "I am not afraid, you will not take my freedom!"
- barkingmoonbat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Yes, it's impossible to win a war against a tactic.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So "stop doing something so completely innefective, counter-productive, and downright idiotic" isn't a better option? I hope nobody tells you that driving a nail through your hand will stop terrorism; those of us trying to convince you that not doing it is a better option will have a tough row to hoe...
- savetheusa1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The "terrorists" havent taken away our rights, we have done that to our selves. And that is the genius of it. They just sit back and watch while we do to ourselves what they never could. I hope that we find a way to correct ourselves
- geekee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39/11 commission report recommendations on combating terrorism
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1 ... - JoshuaGross, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Homeland Security = Fatherland Security
I shudder every time I hear their announcements at airports. It's frightening. They're supposed to make me feel safe getting no a plane but it's weird to have fascists controlling security. - Groovemaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dugg down for dismissing an entire viewpoint based on the person making it.
Attack the message (if you can), not the messenger. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Where does preventive action stop? Do you kill children so they don't grow up to be terrorists? Which is what the Israelis do to Palestinians. Do you invade other countries that might have Muslim residents who could become terrorists, but have not as a nation attacked you? Do you clamp down on freedom in your own country under the justification that you have to prevent terrorists from getting a foothold here? Do you force all political protesters into "Free Speech Zones" that are nothing of the kind, and if someone protests at your political convention, do you throw them into filthy detention arenas as happened in NYC? Where does preventive action stop and fascist state start?
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Screaming, of itself, will accomplish Zero actual change. Same with blogging, just digging stories, etc. Colbert was right!
- hex2bush, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There's an Arab country that wants Freedom but they can't have it because the US gives their "President" 3 Billion dollars a year in "foreign aid" - Egypt. The people are very much in love with freedom and they think the United States and her people are a Great Country - overall. But when Bush or whomever goes on TV and says that "we're fighting for Freedom" and sees that we're giving Billions of dollars to dictators, their only thought is "hypocrite" or lier. We support dictators or give them free reign when it suits the US and when it suits the US, we call them despots and over through them. I want the Arabs to be Free. I want my military to be home and not somewhere else. I wish the old bastards who think the US needs to "assert Her Might" would just go away. I don't wish any harm on my fellow humans here. I am disgusted that we felt the need to over throw Saddam for his atrocities, but we won't over through: all of the dictators in sub-Sarhara Africa, Kim Jong Il, Chinese Government, and the Burmese Gov. Oh wait! Those folks don't have Oil and they are not business partners with the Bush family! My Bad!!!!!!
Jesus Christ the Capcha's are ***** impossible! I created another account just to get a new one. Digg's....mgt.... - SignorDildo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's a ***** state of affairs when the daddy and the boogyman are one in the same.
- Brain1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This Article States...."Why do people still subscribe to the preventive doctrine?
There are people in this administration who think that the only thing that works is hard power, military might, acting tough."
Not So!!! This Administration has had open Borders,including letting Illegal Mexican Aliens cross our southern border. Pushing Amnesty for those Law Breakers since 911!!
Also this Administration tried to sell 6 US Seaports to the Arabs!! The same Arabs that were dancing in the streets on 911!!
The War on terror is a Big Joke!! And the Joke's on Us!!! -
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