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- llbbl, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26Oh look another conservative blog bashing Digg. /shock
I said it before I'll say it again, these conservatives need to stop crying about the vast Liberal conspiracy to exclude content from LittleGreenFootballs and Hotair and your craptastic site.
I bury content from those sites because they are attacking Digg and I don't want to read their mindless neocon drivel. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Oh, please, there is a difference between having a different point of view, and posting link after link of attack crap such as "Islamo-fascists and the political far-left, perfect together" and then mass-digging with your trained sheep.
There is plenty of room for seasoned and intelligent discourse on Digg, maybe if you guys werent such ***** you'd see that. Nobody really gives a ***** about your "left-right" war.
Oh, and to clear something up, it IS a democracy when your hate speach and misinformation gets buried. People voted, thats the definition of democracy you idiot. Welcome to a community thats intelligent enough not to put up with your *****. So take the hint, and tone it down, or STFU go away and stop crying because nobodys paying attention to you.
"Diggocrats" yeah thats soooo creative, almost as good as "libscape" yeah.. whatever. - tooslickvan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21All this diggocrats and diggerals are beginning to annoy me. They digghate and diggbury all the diggstories that tell the diggtruth. I diggsalute digglittledigggreendiggfootballs for having the diggballs to diggstand up to the diggfacists.
- Kinsman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Hi, Techknopagan. I dugg you up from 0 to +1.. I guess that means the extremist right isn't as pure-hearted as they think they are, eh?
Anyway, guys, here's the situation.
1. Remember that the Internet is *international*. There's more than just the American left opposing the American right here - there's the world at large, who have good reasons to disagree with what the American right currently believes, reasons which have nothing to do with the partisanship wars.
2. The sudden prominence of LGF was immediately suspect. Why's that? Because while most Dugg links attract the usual audience of people from all walks of life to either digg or bury it until it floats to the top, slowly and gradually -
- LGF was zealous and unsubtle, automatically voting as a single Bloc - such that LGF links collect hundreds of Diggs in a few hours even though the link wasn't popular, or even noticed, among a broad selection of the Digg crowd. So, they rose to the top in semi-secrecy. You can notice this in the initial comments of such links - a whole lot of people agreeing with each other, totally unlike the contentiousness that opens 99% of the other comment sections on this website.
If you guys are all really so single-minded to Digg like this, fine; but the unnatural results attracted accusations of "gaming" the system. Whether LGF's habits are gaming on purpose or gaming by accident is an interesting psychological question, but at any rate, you're getting resisted as a bunch of extremist troublemakers.
I don't think you can even claim you have a message that needs to be heard; whatever posting you make about the horrible things some radical Islamists is doing - we *already know radical Islam is a problem*. We've known since the *nineties*.
We also know that there are governments in the Middle East who have civil rights histories that could be improved. We've known this *since the seventies or eighties, at least*.
But we're not going to believe that the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world are on a secret mission to destroy civilization everywhere.
Be smug about it if you want, and crow to each other all you want about how "the hippies don't like free speech". I feel no guilt tossing bigoted Digg-lobbyists aside. - Kinsman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Well, since Digg is a bad example, your article needs some extra work before it can prove its point.
- Aeon53, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I really don't understand why they resort to childish name calling. I mean, diggerals? Come on...
Dehumanizing and mocking seems to be the new way to converse. How unfortunate. - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Its simple: prejudiced stories get buried.
Why's that so hard for you LGF'ers to understand?
You'd (presumably) do the same thing if the KKK started posting stories on digg. - CyanSnowHawk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Would you by any chance mean 'offspring'?
- saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11In case you haven't grasped the concept of Digg:
Each user has a digg and a bury button that they can use at their own discretion. All people are allowed to operate freely and may bury or digg whatever they so choose. Articles which have a high number of diggs are those that appeal to the majority of digg users, indicating a common interest.
If articles are buried, this would indicate that the userbase considers the article in question to be lame, inaccurate, spam etc. It could also indicate that the article appeals to too minute of an audience to gain popularity.
Now that you know, please feel free to submit stories that may entertain, inform, or educate the digg community.
PS- Insulting the userbase is not an ideal way to gain diggs. - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Generally those are the tactics for both sides when they really don't have an argument that can be supported with facts and logic. When all else fails... resort to name calling.
- Aeon53, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Why is it so prevalent among the LGF users? Diggerals, Diggocrats, diggbats, moonbats, Kos Kiddie Klub, Armageddadinejad, libtards, libscape, religion of peace™ are just the ones I can recall of the top of my head. It's acting like a bunch of 3rd graders. Use 'trends show liberal diggers burying all opposing views' not 'stupid libtard diggbats hate free speech'. It's like knowing you're going to be buried and then using that as a tool to cry and moan.
What's that called again? Oh yea, deception... - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Actually most diggers are pretty intelligent people who don't buy the ***** the far conservative right spews anymore than they buy the ***** the far liberal left spews. Maybe if you verified there was a grain of truth in the "stories" habitually printed by extremists who submit their articles to digg (both liberal and conservative) the articles might do better. I'm an independent because both sides are so corrupt they can't be trusted.
Oh, my bad, I forgot, if people don't agree with extremist views they don't have a right to have an opinion and help keep your spam off their favorite news service... really-- my bad, silly me, I'll shut up now.
If I had a dollar for every extremist article with no basis in reality that I read and subsequently buried on digg as lame or inaccurate I'd be independently wealthy by now. - PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11"I show a pattern within Liberalism that stops free speech. Digg is just one example."
Digg is pretty much as pure a form of democracy that there is, and i know that upsets you, but one more time....you get buried because you are fukn crazy. We spend most of our time here on digg not fuming at the mouth and trying to send more of our troops into needless harm, and not slinging hate towards the middle east. We are neither liberal nor conservative, but thrive on level-headed debate and good old fashioned democracy.
So once again, you get buried because more people buried you than dugg you, i know it's painful to be in the minority but go ***** blog about it or something (wait, you did) - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Extremism of any variety is shallow and a mental illness.
Pot meet kettle. - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7@CyanSnowHawk
It's nothing to do with liberal or conservative, we bury both sides nutbags. Digg generally just doesn't like extremists of either the far left or far right.
The humorous thing is... the extremist then basically try to silence the critics by whatever method they deem is possible... a tactic they usually blame on the opposite side of the political spectrum...
Cast Iron Pot meet Cast Iron Kettle, yer both guilty of the same sins, extremists are nuts.
Both sides, doesn't matter if they're liberal or conservative, are nutter butters and it doesn't sit real well with most people... tough *****.
Maybe try bringing your views in line with reality and you'll do a bit better, or don't-- I really don't care. Digg is a wonderful democracy, 1 user... 1 vote. I bury this ***** regardless of which side of the political spectrum it is on... nuts is nuts. Not that I expect you to understand democracy, you just want to force everyone to YOUR beliefs. Extremists of any variety are nuts... conservative and liberal extremists are no exception. - KlayBorg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Shut the digg up! JUST USE NORMAL WORDS!!!
Its a democracy, get over it. DEMOCRATS (not no moronic use of digg in word) are the majority, get over it. If you don't agree with an article, you bury it. That's the way it works. Don't like it? Leave. - Kitrus, on 10/15/2007, -1/+3Perhaps the reason why I don't read your posts is I know I'll find at least a half-dozen serious factual errors for every, let's say, half page of writing.
On any issue where I've done intensive research (mostly for pleasure): Darfur, the French riots, various issues related to European Islam, Hindu-Muslim clashes in India, etc., LGF and the op-eds it links to (Mark Steyn, Daniel Pipes, etc.) always get it wrong. ALWAYS.
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And when I mean research, I'm not talking about internet searching, which is how, I'm sure a lot of you conspirazoids "discovered" the "Islamic threat" or whatever.
I doubt any of you idiots have a passionate interest in anything besides wallowing in your paranoid rage and, perhaps, masturbating. - Flummoxer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I guess you should petition for it to be included in the DSM-V then, because it's definitely not in the current edition.
- shadus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3... and based on your continued name calling, I can tell you bothered to read most of the comments and actually evaluate them instead of just clinging to what you already know is right and continuing on your crusade of conformity.
- craftycorner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Same goes with the United States. Florida misplaced a heap of votes in 2000 and we found ourselves with Pres. Georg Bush remember? We should have had President Al Gore if they counted the votes in Florida.
- craftycorner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1technically, it does bite balls
- craftycorner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No...Diggception! LOL
- craftycorner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You hope!
- InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Awww, somebody doesn't like the comment system.... poor babies!
- madcapcdale, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes it is indeed spelled wrong in the comments. I apologize. It is spelled correctly on my blog and my other post, how that happened I do not know. Either way, the point I make has still not been addressed. My comment is in response to the idea that pure direct democracy is a good thing. It is not. Digg is a type of direct democracy with no checks or balances. There are groups of people who intentionally look for conservative articles to bury simply because they are conservative. Similar to how blacks were denied the right to vote on the basis of their skin color. This as well has not been addressed in any of the 32 comments. Disliking name calling, and spelling mistakes are the only responses to the issues raised. Why?
- anastrophe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i happen to agree with you. digg represents the worst aspect of pure democracy, which is indeed mob rule. but it's even worse, because it's so easy to manipulate from being 'one person one vote' to 'one person ten votes'. as well, since the algorithms digg uses for weighting votes are proprietary and unknown, it further fails the test of transparent democracy.
which is why i continue to bristle at this ***** identification of digg as some sort of populist democracy. in fact, it shares more in common with American Idol than it does our system of representative democracy coupled with federal republicanism. - jivatmanx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Yeah, that's why I've seen TWO copies of the story "Al Gore's movie wins oscar" get buried.
One got to 44 diggs in 7 hours, the other in 20 hours.
BOTH got buried for NO reason. The sources were'nt even biased.
I have yet to see that story reach the front page. - anastrophe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1this just in: the country's name is Greece, not Grease. Grease was a very cheesy broadway musical and just as cheesy hollywood movie. Greece on the other hand was not so much renowned for its being cheesy, but for its roast lamb and hemlock.
we return you now to the simple mob-rule of digg. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"There is plenty of room for seasoned and intelligent discourse on Digg, maybe if you guys werent such ***** you'd see that. Nobody really gives a ***** about your "left-right" war."
I want you to think about that paragraph for a minute. Do you see the problem? I'm not taking sides here because I don't have a dog in this fight but you can't state that there's room for intelligent discourse and follow that up by calling people *****. The only way that we're ever going to get back to seasoned and intelligent discourse is to refuse to stoop to the level of those that are here just to name call and start flame wars. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2And once again the Diggerals prove another conservative to nail them right on the head as they worked overtime to digg down this story.
Diggerals [Digg liberals] are SUCH Ignorant, childish Tools! LMAO!!! - Caffeinate, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Christ, this was worth digging just because this particular post embodies the incompetence and stupidity we've come to expect from LGF followers.
- madcapcdale, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3UPDATE: This article received 57 diggs and 28 comments within a few hours and then was buried. Hear is one of the typical comments sprayed by a Diggocrat:
Digg is pretty much as pure a form of democracy that there is, and i know that upsets you, but one more time....you get buried because you are fukn crazy. We spend most of our time here on digg not fuming at the mouth and trying to send more of our troops into needless harm, and not slinging hate towards the middle east. We are neither liberal nor conservative, but thrive on level-headed debate and good old fashioned democracy.
So once again, you get buried because more people buried you than dugg you, i know it's painful to be in the minority but go ***** blog about it or something (wait, you did)
I agree that digg is as pure a form of democracy that there is, its called mob rule. Yes mob rule upsets me. It is the type of democracy that was the ultimate demise of Grease, and the type of democracy that our founders so painstakingly worked to avoid. At digg you get a digg or bury button. In Grease you got a black or white rock.
The Digg democracy is a tyranny of the majority, a type of democracy that Madison, Hamilton and many others warned us about. Because this Digocrat is ignorant of basic political philosophy, he thinks he is participating in something free and good. Like most Liberals, this Diggocrat is unknowingly working to create what Plato called a city of pigs. This is why Liberalism is a mental disorder. It cannot see its own destruction. Liberalism works toward the destruction of democracy and free speech in the name of democracy and free speech!
I think this is great! You people are quite entertaining. "Good old fashioned democracy" and "level-headed debate." Like you know what you are talking about. I can tell this Digocrat took the time to read my article, the federalist papers and history before enlighten every one with their insights into democracy! Oh, and pass the bong already, I think you have had enough. - anastrophe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2i think i'm going to make this my mantra: digg is NOT a democracy. people keep parroting this BS that it's a democracy. um, no! for one thing, there's that notion of 'one person, one vote', which does not obtain on digg. it's way, way to easy to game the system - it's a technological limitation at this point. furthermore, nobody knows exactly what the algorithms are that digg uses to weight the various options for burying stories. last time i checked, when presented with a ballot proposition for a bond measure, i don't have the options to vote "yes", "no", "spam", "lame", or "duplicate". mmkay?
DIGG IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4OK. Offspring.
- madcapcdale, on 10/12/2007, -15/+8I'm not "bashing Digg", I'm exposing you little fascist.
- madcapcdale, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4My article is larger than Digg. What I am talking about is a Liberal pattern in thinking that extends outside of just the Diggocrats community. I show a pattern within Liberalism that stops free speech. Digg is just one example.
- CyanSnowHawk, on 10/12/2007, -18/+10Perhaps the liberals can stop trying to blatantly discredit stories that don't agree with their view of the world. I wonder what the Kos Kiddie Klub might get up to then?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6Actually, rare are the submissions from the KOS site. Occam's Razor suggests that even the Diggerals cannot stomach the hate speech from there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -26/+13Such is the life of a typical Diggeral. Hate, then bury, then spout crap that a mother would be shocked to hear from her darling sibling.
- madcapcdale, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3I'm not crying,I'm laughing at you shallow punks! Your comments prove our point. Liberalism is a true mental illness.
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