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- Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -1/+17Until this time comes educate yourself & those around you about the rights and responsibilities of the jury.
http://www.fija.org//index.php?page=displaytxt& ...
You can find someone NOT GUILTY of a crime if you deem the law to be more harmful than the defendant's "criminal" acts.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/z ...
This is one of the ways alcohol prohibition was brought to an end, and we can fight corruption, violent crime and the waste of our resources by finding violators of prohibition law Not Guilty.
Judges routinely instruct jurors that they are not to determine the justness of the law in question, only whether the defendant is guilty of breaking it. This is simply not true. - c010rb1indusa, on 02/24/2009, -1/+16Drugs are a health issue, not police work. Developed countries where drugs are legal or have zones where drugs can be sold and consumed have the same or lower drugs rates than developed countries with prohibition. Violent Crime, and non violent law offenders also goes down in countries where drugs are legalized in some form.
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/67
With legalization we can clean up our city streets, eliminate gang banging in inner cities and bad neighborhoods, generate high tax revenue, encourage more addicts into rehab because the law is no longer a fear, distribute clean needles and condoms to reduce the spread of AIDS, and stop spending billions every year on a "war" trying to stop something that isn't stopping anybody from getting the drugs they need to. - ic0n0clast, on 02/24/2009, -0/+14"But the available empirical evidence shows that the hazards caused by cannabis are similar to the harm caused by alcohol or tobacco."
No, not really. - Odaecom, on 02/24/2009, -1/+15But if you decriminalize drugs, you take profits from the drug dealers, (because without the fear of incarceration profit margins go away) and then what about their ability to support their families. Not to mention how many DEA, Customs agents and others would be out of jobs.
(Do I really have to point out the sarcasm in this to not get dugg down?) - kemp34, on 02/24/2009, -0/+12But then all the criminal gangs and traffickers would be broke and need a bailout.
- Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -0/+11Yes... there is no minimum sentence in an acquittal.
- wissler, on 02/24/2009, -2/+13Attacking someone who's not harmed anyone--which is what the State does to drug producers and users--is just begging for lack of respect and retaliation. Statists can think that everyone should obey the law because it's the law, but in fact if the law is an immoral law, Statists are living in a fantasy land, people are going to break it, and some of those people are going to get violent while disobeying illegitimate authority.
- inactive, on 02/24/2009, -5/+15An American President Says End Drug War
</alternate universe where Ron Paul was elected> - inactive, on 02/24/2009, -4/+13Obama's all about change; I wanna see some god damn change!
- NotYourProdigy, on 02/24/2009, -0/+8They tried this in Mexico. So far, 15 out of 16 police captains have resigned, and hundred of police officers have been brutally murdered and displayed.
- urbanbluest, on 02/24/2009, -4/+11This would stop so much of that BS by the border. The new drug Czar is from Seattle and he decriminalized mmj there, basically. And Obama said that although he'd keep Federal policies in place a. he's open to change b. said he will guarantee state's rights (and leave medical marijuana alone). So maybe something can finally happen here... We did good by hiring Obama for a start.
- Zapcome, on 02/24/2009, -1/+7Title should say "Former Latin American Presidents"...
- guestaccount, on 02/23/2009, -4/+9Can you smell the change?
- maz2331, on 02/24/2009, -0/+5The really criminal ones (like the Mafia, various "Aryan" gangs, and some others) would adapt to the market and abandon the "product" while becoming more "competitive" on other things.
The criminal gangs will always be around, and just adapt to find any way to use anything that's illegal for gain. Regardless of whether it's morally good or evil.
It would, however, greatly reduce the pool of recruits. Now, they can recruit from druggies, turn them into violent druggies with an anti-society attitude, and grow. After legalizing what these people would have done regardless, they would not be able to do so - as you can't recruit based on a legal vice.
You don't see smokers and alcoholics banding together in gangs that whack other gangs over smokes and beer. We do see that over weed and coke. And saw it in the 1920's over beer....
Oh, and FTA:
"Mr. Cardoso is the former president of Brazil. Mr. Gaviria is a former president of Colombia. Mr. Zedillo is a former president of Mexico." - Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -0/+5I'm posting for everyone who doesn't know, but I'm glad you do.
I've watched way too much Law & Order and other crime drama shows, movies, books not to have heard of this right of the jury.... but when I first found an article about this a few weeks ago I was dumbstruck. It had never been said flat out that a juror has the right to judge the law as well as the evidence against the defendant.
We're supposed to just be aware of it from the public media, which is why judges are allowed to instruct people in the opposite manner as referees of the trial, but I had never heard of it before and am pretty outraged about that. - NotYourProdigy, on 02/24/2009, -0/+5As a Mormon, I am severely offended by this.
I'm just joking, enjoy yourself. - NotYourProdigy, on 02/24/2009, -1/+6That was written by the former president of Brazil? He's right, *****'s going down in Mexico, and no one can stop it. We need a new plan.
- PoleCatz, on 02/24/2009, -4/+8Can you imagine the size of the party the day they legalize marijuana? They'd have to measure the event in mega-Doritos...
- BotchaMcCoola, on 02/24/2009, -4/+8Shouldn't we have a Surge instead? We could even bribe some drug lords to make the public think it is working too.
- zip22, on 02/24/2009, -0/+4they have it. its sold as Marinol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol# ...
There is another frontpage story about this issue, though
http://digg.com/health/That_Other_Stuff_in_Marijua ... - scm21st, on 02/24/2009, -5/+9Never work, makes too much Fing sense.
- ImperialSoren, on 02/24/2009, -1/+5this just in: neo nazis petition for representation in senate
thank god some people can recognize parallelism in analogy or we'd all be spouting off unrelated comparisons as such - urbanbluest, on 02/24/2009, -0/+4I'm glad you posted this. fyi, These kinds of arrests are routinely overturned here in Austin if people elect a trial by jury.
- inactive, on 02/24/2009, -0/+4Comparing Dangers of Popular Drugs
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv268/savvman/c ... - staticfire, on 02/24/2009, -0/+4Yes. People are ***** stupid, that was the question right?
- GeorgeTirebiter, on 02/24/2009, -0/+3Is this the first time those guys have said that?
- AaronS2000, on 02/24/2009, -2/+5^ I'll just call you uninformed and leave it at that.
- rottencod, on 02/24/2009, -0/+3Which drug requires a condom?
- linhah, on 02/24/2009, -0/+3Hell, yes! All Obama has to say is that we need that tax money.
- NotYourProdigy, on 02/24/2009, -0/+3The government has NO control of the people down there. And they decided that drugs were easy and profitable.
- headgames, on 02/24/2009, -0/+3And if those were illegal? would you fight for the right to drink coffee and beer or would you say ....oh well it's the law
- elhaf, on 02/25/2009, -0/+2Those are for the mules.
- elhaf, on 02/25/2009, -0/+2Not too surprising about the nicotine. I've seen too many people try to quit, even with increasing criminalization it's not happening. I never see people go out and shoot up heroin on break from work.
- Jlaugh, on 02/25/2009, -0/+2No you take the profits away from the lazy drug dealers. The ones that are organized will just go legit and make even more profit.
- ryrocker, on 02/24/2009, -0/+2yeah but still..
if you had kids, and your kids they were ***** and just took ***** on other peoples carpets... im not letting them in my house, regardless of if you have control over them or not. - NotYourProdigy, on 02/24/2009, -1/+3C'mon, Doritos? Not very original. But I would like to see an giant orgy.
- maz2331, on 02/24/2009, -0/+2Coke is higher, MJ is probably lower. Does it matter?
- carshadfan, on 02/24/2009, -4/+6"and it's high time" bwahahahahaaaa
- Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -0/+2Well, that graph is WAY prettier than the on that went to the front page last week.
- Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -0/+2*shrug* I guess, but we still refer to our former presidents as "President" and don't usually make the distinction except in times of transition.
The history and fact of them being a president does not end when their term expires. - Frankyfan3, on 02/24/2009, -0/+2Well, the new drug czar didn't decriminalize anything. He was the chief of police at the same time a voter approved policy went into effect to make possession of cannabis by adults the lowest law enforcement priority in the city.
Our former police chief, Norm Stamper, is an outspoken representative of LEAP and often is a key note speaker at the Seattle Hempfest, in favor of legalization.
I think you may have mixed the two of them up. - Frnnkdlxx, on 02/24/2009, -2/+3at the behest and will of the united states federal government, yes.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/24/2009, -3/+4Long Live the Ron Paul Revolution!!!!
And good luck to that guy. The Feds are likely to put pressure on one of their drug contacts to assassinate him IMMEEEDIATELY. - Zapcome, on 02/27/2009, -0/+1Maybe in USA, but not in Latin America...
- JoeVet, on 02/25/2009, -1/+2Obama has said he would not use any of his political good will on this topic. Not only that but he has picked an attorney general who is to the right of Pat Robertson when it comes to drug laws. I think legalization will happen but not with the help of Obama.
- Lazydriver, on 02/24/2009, -3/+4Legalizing marijuana, but denying Evolution....
Ahh, what a crazy doctor. Not for the first bit, the second bit. - inactive, on 02/24/2009, -2/+2Mexico is a lost cause, an over filled cesspool sorely in need of giant flush. I'm talking about putting snipers up on our side of the border, on top of a 50 foot,12 feet thick, wall.
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