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- zeeeej, on 10/12/2007, -40/+69Republicans are outraged! Outraged, I tell you!
They forget that Bush has vowed to never stop destroying America:
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004.
Has Bush apologized for this remark? I'm sure he meant exactly what he said, just like Kerry did. Right? Right?
Morons. - whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -20/+47seriously... he apologized now. can we get over this already? it was a botched joke to make fun of Bush and yet this is getting as much attention as the Foley case or the Detainee Bill!?
- soll, on 10/12/2007, -17/+32I take offense to this! By calling his comments stupid, he is insulting all those students that laughed at his comments! Why do you hate America's students Kerry?
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -18/+31He didn't insult the troops. The Republicans are the only ones who claim Kerry insulted the troops. Read the whole transcript, not just the one paragraph he goofed. He was insulting Bush and the administration only.
The rest is in your head. - gronne, on 10/12/2007, -25/+38Kerry said sorry for a bad joke so now I think it's time for Bush to apologize for sending them to Iraq under false pretenses, with substandard armor, not enough troops to get the job done and no plan for what to when all hell broke loose. Just like the 800 page memo said it would -- that was written during his father's term as President. Maybe if Dubya read more he would've understood that and wouldn't of let Rumsfeld use our servicemen like toys to test his "streamlined" military fantasy.
We're waiting Mr. Bush. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16I enjoy the irony of the situation.
A speech about the importance of an education or you end up like Bush, and all the idiots who jump on this bandwagon to attack him lack total reading comprehension.. or they play stupid on purpose.
"It's great to be here with college students. I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."
Key word in the sentence: us. How do the troops "get us stuck"? That doesn't even make sense. Zoom out, use your brain, and then you'll see the subject of the sentence: Bush.
Duh, English iz hawrd. - Koros8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"I hate the way that if one major Democrat makes mistake, the Republicans find a way of blaming it on the entire party."
Gee, that sounds a lot like the Dem ***** using Foley to call ALL Republicans "Gay Pedophiles", or using their dillusional hatred of President Bush to judge the entire Republican party. Typical Demoncrat, criticism is fair game unless it is one of your own guys. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22Again, he wasn't talking about education or the soldiers. The comment was meant to make fun of Bush, by saying Bush hadn't done his homework and he got US stuck in Iraq. That's the joke and the botch is dropping the word "us."
- andyeddy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11the fact that you are liberals does not mean that you need to feel obligated to defend Kerry. the guy is a joke.
if you people want to win some more seats in congress (or even put a man in the white house), you need to quit standing up for lame politicians like John Kerry. be discerning within your own party.
he's a democrat. you're a democrat. he sucks at life.
by defending this clown you aren't doing yourselves any favors. - ralphie81, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Also ironic: Kerry makes fun of troops (or Bush apparently) for being uneducated, and yet he's the one that looks like the fool here.
Kerry never really apologized, he said he was sorry for the botched joke. Well of course he's sorry...he's sorry for screwing over himself and his party once again. Why can't he just man up and get on TV and apologize to the troops directly? It doesn't matter if it wasn't meant that way, that's the way it was taken. So just apologize already and crawl back into your hole. Or don't, what do I care? Your damage has been done. - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It doesn't matter what the intention was it matters what he said... Let the man be a man and apologize and get on with it.. No ONE is perfect he made a mistake let him own up to it...
- Obvioustroll, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@entropyman,
So, if only Republicans attacked Kerry for this, why did several Democratic candidates and at least one Democratic governor chime in?
Let it rest - Kerry screwed up, he apologized, now it's time to Move On. - Koros8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7John Kerry should just get out of politics altogether. The man is doing NO ONE any good at all, except maybe the Republicans. (Which kinda defeats his purpose, right?)
- cthulhu, on 10/12/2007, -17/+23"Kerry Says ‘I’m Sorry’ On MSNBC For His Remarks About Troops In Iraq"
He wasn't talking about the troops dumbass. - ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18This is getting so much press because the GOP doesn't have anything else to attack the democratic party on, in general. Until this story, all the GOP said was the "democrats will raise your taxes and let the terrorists win." This shows how desperate the GOP is. And they're realizing that even with their cheating diebold machines, they might not win and they're panicking!
- verstohlen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Not only did he botch the joke, but he did it in such a way as to insult the military, and now he and his apologists are insulting those who didn't get his botched joke saying they're too dumb to understand it was a botched joke! My God, this is too good to be true.
- shultzy055, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14the funny thing is.... he never said the word "us".
- deanmeek, on 10/12/2007, -23/+28I watched the video. This is no apology. Saying that he left out the word "us" does not not make what he said into a joke. Someone explain it to me.
He has his Vietnam mentality of when there was a GI deferment if a person was going to college. Thus, dumb troops who could not take advantage of the situation. I believe this is what still clouds Kerry's view of our troops. He can't acknowledge that over 95% have high school diplomas and they are all volunteer.
If you add the supposedly left out "us" word, then is the joke supposed to mean that if you don't study hard and make yourself smarter you get elected President of the United States and you send the troop to get stuck in Iraq. That's funny? To who? - onTheJDAR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Who cares if he insulted the troops?"
Wow. You can't be serious
"They'll all be dead pretty soon with that other moron in charge. Dead people can't vote so they are doing America a favor committing suicide by serving the delusions of that moron Bush rather than the national security of their nation."
There are about 2 million people enlisted in the Army, Marines, Navy, and Air Force, but only about 140,000 in Iraq. And considering troop levels in Iraq, the nearly 3,000 deaths (which are far from negligible), the chances of a soldier dying are not as great as some may think.
I won't bother debating the rest of your comment.
I will add some info about myself...
I test in the top 2% of America
I am halfway through a CS degree at a renowned school
I am an atheist
I am a libertarian (with a little "l")
I am enlisting in the Army Reserves - gojeda, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Too little, too late.
The only reason why Kerry apologized is because the elections are 5 days away. It is called "damage control". Too bad, for him, that the damage has already been done.
Sorry Mr. Kerry, no one swallows your forced, insincere, and limpwristed apology. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -13/+18No one said it was a good joke. Kerry can't tell a joke to save his life. But the joke was that Bush didn't do his homework and so we got stuck in Iraq. Yes, it's bad. But it has nothing to do with the education of the troops.
- markgl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6kerry is done for. he can't run for president now.
- L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14I hate how people have been brainwashed into thinking this behavior only applies to one political party.
Welcome to the world folks. They're all douchebags, and they've been doing worse than than using people's words against them... for thousands of years. - AC130, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Kerry did not botch a joke. He was saying what he really felt. He has a long history of attacking US military members.
During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to "the perpetuation of war crimes."
In 1972, as he ran for the House, he was less apologetic in his comments about the merits of a volunteer army. He declared in the questionnaire that he opposed the draft but considered a volunteer army "a greater anathema."
"I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown," Kerry wrote. "We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.' - sean65, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Kerry, won't truly apologize because he said what he meant and he's being forced to apologize in public from outside Dem pressure. He's embarrassed by the negative attention and makes a half-hearted attempt at an apology not because he's sorry, but because he wants the embarrassment to go away.
Kerry is a useless suit taking up a Senate seat which would be better served by someone who actually cares about Massachusetts. - thomasoa, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16And he didn't apologize for his remark about "the troops" because he wasn't talking about the troops. Dugg down as inaccurate.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Gawd people, read the frigging thing he said. It did sound like he was insulting the troops. It is in black and white, there is no grey here. I understand that he is saying that it was not intentional and he dropped a word or two and said it incorrectly. But he honestly did say something that was bad and should be a man and take it.
Stop being inablers of your own party... - donte, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7People are outraged because even in the intended context, it was a dick comment. It's still the implication that the troops are "stuck" in the first place. Every troop are there because they voluntarily enlisted (many after the conflict began). If you look at polls among those currently serving in Iraq, they believe that they are fighting for a just cause (why else do so many voluntarily go back for more tours once their service is done).
All of these people feel as though they are fighting for something worth fighting for and this guy comes along and has the audacity to claim that they are just "stuck" there. I know he wasn't making fun of the troops, but in BOTH contexts, his comments were belittling to evertyhing that most of them are gladly fighting for. - krazikamikaze, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11You know what the really ironic thing is? Your quotation is nothing like what Kerry actually said. He never said "get us stuck," yet you get dugg just for being pro-Kerry.
The actual audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o
If you don't stop digging people based on emotion, then you're no better than the republicans trying to play on the emotions of Americans.
Can Kerry's statement, as spoken, be interpreted as a knock on our troops? Absolutely. Is it what he meant to say? Obviously not. Does it deserve this much attention? No. I think that's something we can all agree on. - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They all apologize like that and we aren't going to get a better one.. We should just all remember that and boycott all companies he has any dealings with..
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I wonder how long people are going to ride on the "We all heard what he said" train when there's clear video showing that he was making several jokes at Bush's expense one after another, not just this one joke.
Why would he tell Jokes 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 about Bush being a failure and then throw in a juicy Joke 6 about stupid troops? - zimm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12As much as i hate bush and think he might be stupid...
We're damm lucky kerry didnt win.. We'd be so ***** today.
well... more ***** than we are now anyway. - schraged, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4MSNBC is still on the air???
- Noctem, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7If he's apologized for this 'botched joke', why not apologize for his run for president? :)
- cthulhu, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11Why the ***** would he say that about the troops on camera? You repubs know he was talking about Bush. I refuse to believe you're that stupid.
- JAGLTC, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Come on people. It was no more a botched joke than it was a sincere apology. He's only sorry he got caught saying what he really feels. He's sorry that we might have been offended? What offends me is his arrogance in thinking anyone in the military would believe he didn't mean what he said, and try to pass off a non-apology as being sincere. By the way, Senator Kerry, I took my professional degree and volunteered, as a Reservist, to go on active-duty and go to Iraq, because I believed in what we were doing. I went, and I still believe. I saw alot of great people doing their best, under very difficult circumstances, because they are intelligent, dedicated and honorable people. Save your condescension for those dumb enough to buy your phony explanation.
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -16/+18Well, to be frank it wasn't him who made it sound like it was a dig at the troops. That was media spin, not actual statement. His apology therefore seems perfectly apt.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I would like to point out that I wouldn't assume he was talking about Bush, for the simple fact I know Kerry hates the military and hates every war and thinks we should roll over and take whatever abuse other countries shovel at us.. :/ I took what he said at face value.
- teddtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2LOL, going down for a joke? You might want to look at the pedophiles, woman beaters, and family value hypocrites in the pseudo-republican party. Republicans are going to fall flat on their face. Unfortunately they our taking our great country down with them. Get a clue...
- hangtown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Imus is such an idiot. That's my main take away from all this.
- Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Anyone who lost an election to bush by a good margin shouldn't have an opinion that matters. Kerry needs a toaster in his next bath.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ok.. I have to say the Foley thing was more morally wrong..
The difference though is that Foley stepped down and admitted wrong doing... (at least from what I understand :/)
Any republican saying the Foley thing and the Kerry thing is equal is completely wrong and please don't do that... I'm a republican and can objectively see this.. :/ We're talking about underage vs adults.. :/
But I also think Kerry and his wife should do us all a favor and move out of the country and spread their disease somewhere else.. :/ - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Who cares if he insulted the troops? They'll all be dead pretty soon with that other moron in charge. "
Please don't breed... - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Look we are all responsible for what we say, no ifs ands or buts.. If you can crucify the moronic things that sometimes comes out of Bush's mouth than I believe that Kerry deserves a crucifying for this...
- gojeda, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7"You are an *****."
^ ^
This response was paid for by John Kerry and the Democratic National Shills. - piznut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's the executive summary:
Kerry: You are an idiot.
Bush: You need to apologize.
Kerry: Im sorry that you are an idiot. - HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem with Kerry's apology is that he is apologizing not for the botched joke but that a certain group of people are unable to understand his humor.
This would be a kin to Cheney apologizing to the guy he shot by blaming him for being in the way in the first place.
READ what Kerry said and you will see it to be true. It's not an apology, it's an accusation against those who were offended. - HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem with trying to paint Bush as the butt of this joke is that Bush did better at Yale than Kerry did!
- piznut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Going down?
Really?
That all you guys got at this point? - ruyn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hey guys don't worry its all good because he won 3 purple hearts.
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