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- kman004, on 10/12/2007, -11/+43get it straight, bush killed your "boys" for a war that should have never happened.. good job on finding those "weapons of mass destruction" and making this world considerably safer. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
- BeefBaron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Send in the children of the ultra rich!
That'll show them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33I hate the propoganda term "support the troops".
- edifus, on 10/12/2007, -14/+37glad to see someone has some balls big enough to tell that moron NO
- cagedog, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Clinton tried to kill Osama and the Republicans accused him of trying to divert attention from the Lewinski scandal. Read a book, douchebag.
And the Iraq war is creating more terrorists than we can possibly imagine. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29His user name is "1angrychristian." If that doesn't scream ban me immediately I don't know what does.
- Jaq524, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27This is Kennedy's 45th year in congress, *****.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Support the troops by keeping them in an endless, fruitless war? Great plan, christian.
- howsmusic4u, on 10/12/2007, -25/+40Suck it G Dub.
- DIGGerPhelpsND, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19As the end of his second term approaches, it is growing more likely that Mr. Bush will simply hand off the Iraq problem to his successor.
- sathias, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23It's strange how the people that mention Ted Kennedy causing a death through driving never mention Laura Bush doing the same thing.
- reticulate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Something the Clinton administration understood was that these organizations are like a ***** hydra. You actually manage to find the guy, and actually get someone close enough to arrest/kill/whatever, and you've still got a ***** martyr regardless.
You've got to attack the root cause. Find out why the communities they target are so susceptible to the propaganda, and try to resolve it. If he doesn't have suicide bombers and the infrastructure behind them (including the cash), you can shut him down. A war of arms can't beat a group of people resolved to fight a holy war. Our soldiers are paid professionals. They can't do much beyond hold the lid on a bubbling pot, and their mere presence only exacerbates the situation. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Funny how the foxified nutballs bring up the Kennedy tradgedy however they completely ignore the fact that the stepford wife of our border-line retarded president, killed her boyfriend.
Funny "hmmmmm" - BeefBaron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15People need to realize the word terrorist is completely subjective.
In THEIR country, AMERICANS are the terrorists; everyone needs to stop this bureaucraticbabble before everyones accusing everyone else of being a terrorist. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14As spring approaches, it is growing more likely that trees sprout leaves.
(These quotes available from PuppetCo's forthcoming pocketbook "Painfully ***** Obvious Statements, available at a fine quality bookseller near you!") - SgtAl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Heres a good argument against a troop "surge", all the generals that King George just fired said that it was a bad idea. If you want to keep your job in this administration you better not point out that the boss got it wrong.
- smoothmedia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15A great video of Kennedy's argument against escalation over at DailyKos
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/9/17484/86306
Its a safe bet that this will make 1000 times more sense that what Dubya has in store for us tomorrow. - Alphabet, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Whatever happened to Christianity meaning love and peace? I guess forgiveness isn't very big on a christian's agenda. Now it's just war.
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14It begins . . . I'm curious to see how this turns out. Of course, in the end, I'm fairly certain this won't become law. As much as I think Congress SHOULD hold Bush's feet to the fire, I'm not quite sure I like the idea of them drafting legislation they know the president will veto . . . it might be better to go with something that has a chance of getting approved. Unless they want to see how high they can get the veto tally to go in 2 years, which would be a waste of time, but VERY entertaining.
- billyh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10We do know what happened then, we bombed Viet Nam back into the Stone Age. And then we bombed Cambodia back into the Stone Age and lied to the World about it (eh, Herr Kissinger?). Which sounds familiar. Hit a country and then clandestinely hit another, like maybe Iran or Syria?
Anyway, Bush and the neocons got into deep ***** because their big promise was to American oil companies: Step right up, within a year you will be pulling monster profits while the people welcome you with open arms.
The big "surge" is to go in and protect the oil fields so Bush can deliver on the most important thing about the assault on Iraq which has so far been his biggest failure: the US$. - wallyworld, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Hey that's a good idea Bushie - send more cannon fodder. That'll learn them nasty terrorists. Why not make it 120,000 troops? Hell...go for broke... swamp the country with half a million more ignorant gungho Americans on a Fools Mission. You guys'll never learn. Didn't VIETNAM teach you anything? What was it Gen. Curtis LeMay said? (May 1964) "Tell the Vietnamese they've got to draw in their horns or we're going to bomb them back into the Stone Age." And we all know what happened then.
- seaqueue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@ broomett re: "As for your Iraq war creating terorrists arguments..you got any proof."
Hey genius, the newest National Intelligence Estimate itself asserts that the Iraq war is making the terrorist threat worse. Why don't I QUOTE from it so you can see for yourself:
"The Iraq conflict has become the "cause celebre" for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement."
I'll even point you to a non-dailykos link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5382762.stm You should notice the headline of the article is "Iraq war fuels terror - US report" - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The only good christians were murdered and became martyrs. There was nothing holy about constantine.
Constantine saw a vision of jesus and a cross and that helped him turn the tide of battle. The very first action of Western Christianity was war. The very first prayer was for death. - fireball74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ok, I'm going to break it to you. You sound like a nutcase.
What soldiers are being prosecuted for are crimes against civilians. Of course, you can call raping a 15 year old girl, then killing her and her family "squeezing one off" if you like, I call it barbaric and animalistic. That's just one example.
Then we now have a civil war breaking out over there. We didn't bargain for this, and GWB didn't plan for it. It's another Vietnam, but some are too damned shortsighted to see it. Like it or not, this war is no longer the war Congress approved in 2002. It's plain and simple. - BeefBaron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@Alphabet
That only lasted till the end of the Constantine period. Then it just became repression and forced tithing. - halavais, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8
Tell me where in the report the ISG recommended a troop surge. Have you actually read the report? The Iraq Study Group said no such thing. It recommended that the administration embed an increased number of our military personnel in Iraqi units, while substantially redeploying troops from the front. It recommends that all combat forces be drawn down by the beginning of 08, a recommendation the Bush administration has decided to ignore.
It's hatred, in many cases, but not blind. And in case you didn't get the wake-up call, it's not just from the left any more. The country is fed up with a president who values his own agenda over the good of the country as a whole. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11"The very first action of Western Christianity was war. The very first prayer was for death."
Okay, I want you to take this doll and show me where he touched you. - seaqueue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6the costs are already being handed off to taxpayers and their children
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Your impotent bleating about Sandy Berger and your Clinton fixation would mean a ***** to me if you had the balls to criticize your Dear Leader for once.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Please provide links to this utter nonsense
By the way, nutbars only have about 28% support now, so you can shove that "liberalism" crap up your ass! - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"He lobbed a few missiles in his general direction, at a convenient time."
In my book that's better than the big steaming pile of NOTHING Bush did about it. He even had what was going to happen spelled out for him (A report called 'Bin Laden determined to attack US landmarks with airplanes') - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8If Bush had managed to stop 9/11, maybe you would have the right to say that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6To the right wingers down-digging billyh's comment, maybe you should have a read of this?
http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2007_01_07_alicublog_archive.html#116828944979807797
"Iraq’s massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be thrown open for large-scale exploitation by Western oil companies under a controversial law which is expected to come before the Iraqi parliament within days.
The US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.
The huge potential prizes for Western firms will give ammunition to critics who say the Iraq war was fought for oil. They point to statements such as one from Vice-President Dick Cheney, who said in 1999, while he was still chief executive of the oil services company Halliburton, that the world would need an additional 50 million barrels of oil a day by 2010. “So where is the oil going to come from?… The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world’s oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies,” he said.
Oil industry executives and analysts say the law, which would permit Western companies to pocket up to three-quarters of profits in the early years, is the only way to get Iraq’s oil industry back on its feet after years of sanctions, war and loss of expertise. But it will operate through “production-sharing agreements” (or PSAs) which are highly unusual in the Middle East, where the oil industry in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the world’s two largest producers, is state controlled.
Opponents say Iraq, where oil accounts for 95 per cent of the economy, is being forced to surrender an unacceptable degree of sovereignty."
What a ***** surprise! - freff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm not sure why BeefBaron's getting dug down. I sucks, but he's right. There's no way that any legislation limiting Bush's powers to escalate his war will ever make it past his desk. Bush will just veto it, and there's not enough Democrats to override a veto. That's fact. This is only interesting in that it's a definitive stand against the President's policies, but there's no chance that it'll go anywhere. The absolute BEST that the Democrats can hope to happen is to get the Republicans on record as to where they stand on the war by their votes, so that the public knows.
The most interesting part about this entire thing is, in the unlikely event that the Republicans can keep all their people from voting for Kennedy's bill, the Democrats probably can't pass it, because Lieberman definitely won't support it. If Lieberman splits, and the Republicans remain solidly behind Bush's Iraq strategy, you're at a 50-50 split, and Cheney, the Prince of Darkness himself breaks any ties.
This might make for intriguing theater, but it's not going to become law. - whickywhickyjim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6pcorajr
You sound exactly like my old NCOIC. The thing about you is that you served after the Nam, haven't been anywhere and if you did actually end up in a fighting hole, you'd probably get fragged by your own troopies within 5 minutes for being a massive asshat. - lnf69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't see how serving in the military is an eye-opener to how the world really is.
Do you really think the following?
Person disagrees or dislikes Bush he/she:
- was never in the military
- plays video games all day, and reads false news reports by night,
- Since he/she was not in military, he/she has low cultural experiences, (a nice way of saying ignorant) - wallyworld, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well...without going in to the history of the Vietnam War (I presume you're saying that the American media was communist?) I must point out that this isn't a war, per se, it's an invasion of a sovereign country under the pretext of there being WOMD ready to be launched at a moments notice and of the country being a sanctuary for "terrorists" - Al Queda specifically. Both since proved to be falsehoods. You guys live in a culture of violence, aggression and fear. And you think you can solve everything with your gunboat diplomacy and your ever-willingness to "squeeze a round out of your rifles". You can't. And that is blatantly obvious (yet again) in Iraq and Afghanistan and Kosovo. Try asking yourself "Why did 9/11 happen? Why do these people hate us so much?" Could it be your attitude? You guys aren't winning any friends. And pouring more troops in isn't going to do anything except stir up more hatred and violence. And so it goes on.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4But is that what the Iraq study group really concluded?
Can you show evidence of that?
Raising troop levels might have helped at the start. But look at how much of a ***** the war has become since then. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16brindon-
Yes, Kennedy drove his car into a river and killed a woman, but what many people don't know is that he later named his dog "Splash." THAT is funny . . . I just don't know if it's funny "ha ha" or funny "hmmm." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"just for your FYI Vietnam was a huge mess for the same reason Iraq became one."
Because it was an unwinnable war right from the start? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"When it comes to this war, at the onset, Bush did everything the Democrats wanted him to do, go to Congress (they saw the same information he did),"
What a ***** lie.
Intelligence about the war was cherry picked to make it look more convincing than it really was. Cheney and Rumsfeld set up their own intelligence office to tell them only the things they wanted to hear.
Don't try and pass off your pathetic lies. No-one's falling for that ***** anymore.
Why can't you admit that you were bamboozled by this administration right from the start? - clyde2801, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I do support the troops...I want to bring them all home alone alive right now!
- GLSmyth, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7This is how the Vietnam War finally came to an end.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the bush family?
- Javert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Regarding the Iraq Study Group Report: the Report contained 79 "Recommendations" the first was a "new Diplomatic Offensive" that included talking to Syria and Iran; the third was a regional Conference in Baghdad with members of the Arab League designed to "reestablish their diplomatic presence in Iraq"; the fourth was to establish an "Iraq International Support Group"; recommendations 5-12 dealt with the particulars of the Iraq International Support Group; 13, recommended a "sustained commitment by the United States to a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace on all fronts"; 14-17 expanded on this aspect of the Middle East problem; 18 recommended that "Afghanistan be the recipient of "combat forces...moved from Iraq"; 19-22 concerned the conditions under which "the military and civilian presence in Iraq can be reduced" 23 and my personal favorite said, "The President should restate that the United States does not seek to control Iraq's oil."; 24 & 25 related to "Milestones for Iraq"; 26-33 concerned steps necessary for national reconciliation; 34 said this, "The question of future U.S. force presence must be on the table for discussion"; 35-37 involved further suggestions leading to a reconciliation; In fact and to end this the Group rejected a large troop increase and suggested a smaller increase "if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines that such steps would be effective. When the current commander rejected an increase in troop levels as not being effective Bush sacked him. And found a commander who would go along with his plan.
I guess the right has forgotten all the times that Bush defended his every move in Iraq and that includes numerous previous troop increases, the latest just last month, by claiming that he was letting the military fight the war and he was listening to the commanders on the ground. How many times did he say that he could win the war with the troop levels he had, and that he would only send more troops if his commanders asked for them. After several troop level increases (we are now at about 165,000 troops) have yielded no subsequent increases in security (a precondition that the Iraq Study Group stressed) the current commanders have stopped calling for greater troop levels. In fact, when the commanders said that adding more troops was a bad idea, Bush scrapped them. And like the intelligence that he used to go to war originally, has handpicked new officers who agree with his plan. - cphelps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love these pointless mud-slings that constantly go on in these discussions. What I find most humorous amongst all of this, is the fact that any of you believe that anyone in government could actually do the job correctly. Now I'm not trying to give Bush anything, I hate him and he's done an (insert worst adjective describing a failure here) job. But no matter who is in office not everyone will ever agree. Why? Because you have so many hard-headed nut jobs running around this country such as pcorajr, who start to say something intelligent but always stick in that brainwashed mind-numbing drivel that they have perpetuated in their own head for who knows what reason. Such as this little gem of wisdom:
"My problems here is that our enemy wants us dead and you people think they are innocent.
Are you really that big of a moron? No one here thinks they are innocent, people understand they don't like us and that terrorist, which are of their same races and religion carried out an ungodly attack against our fellow countrymen and women. I think you need to examine your logic when reading, because your comprehension is lacking and you should seek to improve it, and I suggest you get a sense of urgency about doing so. You misunderstanding of people thinking they are "innocent", is your inability to understand that what people really think is that we shouldn't have gone there in the first place. No they aren't innocent and should be punished, but why throw thousands of your countrymen at them as a "punishment" and start a war that can't be won? There will be war in the Middle East until the end of days, its written in history and in their own religion, as you even said yourself. You can't stop a people from fighting or killing when they believe with conviction that it will provide them with salvation in the afterlife. And they will do anything to get what they are told it will bring them.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Going to war in the Middle East is like trying to learn how to dance wearing a body cast, you can't do it and get anywhere. And your short-sighted half-brained interpretations of the beliefs of other Americans, whom you obviously view as "Non-Marines" doesn't help accomplish anything. - baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i always thought of ol' Ted Kennedy as a leftist liberal nutcase, but this time i have to agree because i fear King George will deplete the US Armed forces and the make this country go broke all over Iraq...
- togra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"just for your FYI Vietnam was a huge mess for the same reason Iraq became one."
Because the US military is full of retarded psychopaths like you? - lnf69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Your ignorance shines like a million watts. Turn it down, so as to stop proving your opponents points.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's great, but the Iraq war is not solving that problem.
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