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- MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -15/+108First that segment which he called the Nexus of Politics and Terror, and now this. Olbermann is a breath of fresh air in a media too full with idiots like Bill O'Reilly!
- GetInTheirFace, on 10/12/2007, -7/+82It's about time our generation had someone with Edward R. Murrowss testicular fortitude. (Finally a personality on Cable News with a set of Brass Balls and a sense of justice)
- hoyaman, on 10/12/2007, -15/+87You're talking about Rumsfeld being the no-talent hack, going downhill.
aren't you? - born, on 10/12/2007, -13/+80Honestly, when the only voice of sanity outside of the Comedy Network is Keith Olbermann, we're pretty boned.
- iburl, on 10/12/2007, -6/+56Edward R. Murrow:
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty."
"We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law.
"We will not walk in fear - one, of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of un-reason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men;
"Not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were - for the moment - unpopular."
I recently told a friend that does not have cable TV that MSNBC was now the best cable news network. He was rightly surprised. CNN once had a veneer of respectability, at least in my mind, and MSNBC was always garish, a sensationalistic, tabloid-TV mess. Well, it still is, but Olbermann single-handedly has saved that network from completely sinking into the murky depths of crap that has now enveloped CNN. Olbermann needs to jettison from the "Countdown" show and produce his own show. More reporting, opinion and analysis and far less American Idol and JonBenét coverage. Hey, maybe he should have a show on the long rumored Liberal TV station that we keep dreaming about? - diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48Olberman had some great remarks. What ever you think of him, you must agree that our forefathers were not fearful. He nailed that.
We do have a new fascist threat, but I believe it is from within and many Republicans agree. - curtissthompson, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48I agree whole heartedly...it is about time we have an Edward R. Murrow for our generation, we need this now, more than ever! Countdown with Keith Olbermann is the only television show (on any mass news network I watch), because Keith isn't afraid of taking punches, and fortunately MSNBC gives him an enormous amount of freedom on his show. I believe his show still runs at 8:00 P.M. Eastern Time. I still watch it when ever I turn on my TV to cable (which is only for The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and Countdown on occasions), but unfortunately my schedule doesn't allow me to watch him as much anymore. Especially considering he has only gotten better since I watched him regularly every night, attacking people like O'Reilly (how O'Reilly gets better ratings, despite having a longer run-time, still mystifies me), and the Bush administration!
I wish people would speak, and write with this kind of elegance more often today. I always remember loving the intellect, the altruism, the defiance, the determination and the elegance of the speeches of JFK, and Edward R. Murrow. When I hear Bush speak, well....(I'm speechless /sardonically/)
Maybe in the end the Bush administration is exactly what America needed, a wake up call, to the ignorant, and the apathetic. But if Bush can't bring cause for a revolution in this country, then I see no hope for the future.
Watching this clip makes me want to watch his show every night again, and to watch two of my favorite movies of all time, Good Night And Good Luck, & V For Vendetta! - ben_nushmut, on 10/12/2007, -7/+47He's on weeknights, live at 8PM eastern, repeating at midnight eastern and also, I believe, the following morning at 9AM ET.
I watched this live tonight, was just blown away. Now if only the rest of the media would start to wake up and fight back the way Olbermann has been. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42This is true, but sadly, hardly any americans watch him on tv, they listen to o reilly instead.
If I knew when he was on, I'd watch him more.. does anyone know when he comes on? I don't watch much tv.. - dilwodan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+41Keith Olberman is one of our most articulate voices of reason in this time when fear has been heaped on us like dung. Prophetic voices always disturb the powerful. Thanks Keith.
- sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Go ahead and make your specious parallels, but I haven't heard any Democrat come out and call his opposers 'nazi sympathizers'. That's fear-mongering reserved for the Republicans.
I don't care what party a person is, when they use tactics like Rumsfeld does they deserve to be called out and shamed. - Marku$, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36you, my friend, are a goddamn idiot. half-truths ? I think you laid a few out there yourself. And for this crime... I foresee.... thumbs down.
- Jedi_2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34That was a very well crafted speech in the exact spirit of Edward R. Murrow, this presidency is built on fear and deception and if we are shortsighted enough to keep believing the lies propagated by the presidency then we do not deserve the freedom bestowed upon us. This goes for both political parties Democrats and Republicans, if our politicians are corrupt and we cannot see this corruption due to our mutual hatred of the opposing political party then this freedom bestowed upon us has henceforth no meaning. If we continue on the path we are going with Democrats and Republicans ignoring issues and dismissing them because the other side supports the issue, and trying to come up with simplistic explanations as to why we oppose the issues;then the future of this country won't have a foundation on compromise and individual freedom of the past, but a new distopian future where the inconsistencies between regions become more apparent until these United states become nothing more then the 50 Independent colonies.
- jbouklas, on 10/12/2007, -9/+31Well done. I have nothing but the highest respect for Olbermann. I can name only Jack Cafferty and Lou Dobbs as journalists integrity that rivals Olbermann's, and I must say that they are not even in his league. I am proud that there are men like him to represent me and my way of life.
- sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26leehodge:
You're correct in saying that Rumsfeld did not literally say "I will remove your right to disagree" or "those who disagree with me are nazi sympathizers." Those strings of words did not come from his mouth. Yet, he is able to say both of those things by implying or analogy. It's a clever little trick politicians use so they can weasel out of a claim if they are ever called out on it.
Rumsfeld whips out a historical reference to the pre-WWII era. He recounts how people disbelieved the threat of Germany. He then goes on to directly compare that situation in England to the current situation with the 'war on terror'. By doing so, he implies that the Hitler appeasers are the historical equivalent to those who doubt this administration's 'war on terror'.
It's a rediculous and baseless claim to compare terrorist cells to facist Germany. But the validity of the parallel isn't what matters. This speech isn't supposed to sway the learned people of the US. In fact, if you have any knowledge of history you would find a comparison like this insulting. This speech is an attempt to stir up bad emotions by association, and compare war dissention to nazi sympathy.
The people who swallow this kind of bunk are the same people who are gladly spoon fed lies and misinformation from the administration and love every drop. It's a laughably cheap ploy to resort to Godwin's Law in any debate, yet the Secretary does it shamelessly on television. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Oh god, here comes leehodge back again.. I always know what he's going to say before I read his comments: "Moonbat Moonbat .. you are all Moonbats .. etc. Moonbat etc. .. and only Moonbats don't like Fox News and Bush."
- sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Can you quit with your campaign to propel your political slur already?
WE GET IT. How clever of you to use 'moonbats' 15 times in every single post. Let's put your name into the wikipedia entree so you can be famous forever for starting another stupid slang. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Everyone view leehodge's post above to get a picture of the average Fox News viewer. I would digg it down but I want everyone to see what a ***** ***** this guy is.
Don't give up now, keep feeding us your wisdom leehodge sir! - pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22wowbagger
Maybe Digg represents the center, and since the Fox news and Bush people are so far right, that it only appears left. When John Dean, a conservative, a Republican, lawyer for Nixon looks like a left wing lunatic, you are way the hell too far to the right. When a member of the press actually corrects the lies and half-truths of the administration and you immediately demonize them, you are too far to the right.
For too long now, a very small but loud minority of the population has hijacked the country and the political discourse. They keep echoing the same things, creating a lot of noise but they have no substance. Somebody finally showed how empty and wrong they have been and will always be. - sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Most of what leehodge says are distortions, half-truth, and out right lies.
- sh0k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22From Wikipedia:
Trivia: Olbermann Possesses six lumbar vertebrae instead of the usual five. [21]
He's got more spine than any other newscaster! Hay-oh! - Marku$, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27incredible. i wish he would have these awesome verbal smack-downs more often.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22There is a hilarious clip of Jon Stewart murdering Tucker while on his own show. A couple weeks later, the show was cancelled.
Anyway, thanks for the time.. I guess that would be 5PM pacific.. - NoahVail, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Its true. Since that idiot Glenn Beck has started on Headline News I cannot stand to watch it anymore. I am definitely spending more time on MS-NBC than CNN.
I appreciate Olbermann's liberal bias. Look where conservatism has gotten us- unless you are a millionaire or a billionaire, you have been screwed. - bigboy101011, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20tubetechno are you retarded, the difference is O'rielly is eating the shat bush is pushing and smiling; olberman sees what's relly happening and trying to stop orwell from being right.
- DarthBeer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20The job of a journalist is to hold the government accountable for their actions. Whether or not it puts you on the left or the right side of the issue at the time is irrelevant. Truth sometimes lies with the left, sometimes with the right, and sometimes floating between the two.
The fact that you only mention Olbermann's liberalism instead of the merits of his commentary is symptomatic of the state of political discourse in this country. We put a person on one of two sides, attack that person as having a liberal or conservative agenda, and try to discredit what they say based solely on that, instead of the content of what they are saying. And THAT is ***** sad.
Truth is always "biased" towards one side or another. That doesn't make it any less true. - scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Who's dracheflieger? Oh yeah, a digger that no one takes seriously.
- wolfzbane, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19"Terrorism is built on fear and deception. The reality is that people want ordinary Americans dead. You're being afraid of it or not is a personal decision."
Americans aren't special. Terrorists, if you haven't noticed, haven't gone after America alone. - fnaqzna, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Edward R. Murrow would probably be proud. Nice commentary.
- ShadySpace, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18That's pretty telling, though. Why do conservatives bother here? The demographic this site serves doesn't include rich, balding, old men (the majority of the conservative party, that and flat out ignorants) Also, I love how everyone accepts Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, etc. That's not reporting they do, it's stoned-faced, right-wing progaganda. But, oh Heaven forbide when a newsman might possibly have a liberal slant.
- gjleyba, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Actually I think Stephen Colbert owns copyright on testicular fortitude. Sorry, but you have to give Stephen the respect he deserves.
- richhigg83, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17::chirp chirp:: wow, speechless... It's actually quite sad we live in time where someone offering dissent on a major news network is such big news. This should be the rule, rather than the exception. We live in a world of Fox News demonizing anyone who disagrees, while propagating fear with nimrod "experts" bringing every argument back to 9/11.
Keith Olberman is now up there on my list of journalists to watch. Watch out Jon Stewart... - gill1109, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18indeed, and so is the us war on terrorism also built on fear and deception
(btw this is a european speaking here so i guess i'm disqualified). the reality (imho) is that (many) ordinary US citizens are apparently totally brainwashed by fear and deception - an easy task when apparently there is so much ignorance around - scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17@gospthomas
I dont know what Howard Dean has anythingto do with this. You think anything that is against the bush admin is liberal. I call it Patriotic. - splitbitch, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18"Olbermann Lie: "Secretary Rumsfeld compared critics of the current war in Iraq to those who tried to appease Adolf Hitler and the Nazis before World War II."
What Rumsfeld said: "once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism.... But some seem not to have learned history's lessons""
Yeah, you left off the right part of the quote, you misleading *****.
What Rumsfeld actually said: "There was a strange innocence about the world. Someone recently recalled one U.S. senator’s reaction in September of 1939 upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II. He exclaimed:
“Lord, if only I had talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided!”
I recount that history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism."
You're a worthless neocon shill. - Koskun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The main, and pretty much only reason, that Olbermann covers the American Idol and crap like that is because his producers make him, and he has voiced that many a time when he does those types of stories.
While lifting Olbermann up to he height of Murrow is a bit much, I think a yet has to be put in there. If he can either, as you stated, get away from doing the hollywood news, and go more to a Murrowesque type reporting he would hit what the news has needed for quite some time.
I honestly quit watching his show for a while because all the riff raff between O'Reilly and him was just dragging on and on and taking away from the news. I do hope that his commentary, like ones he has done before, continues and changes the trend of the show away from hollywood and more towards Murrow. - sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16First, I never dig down a comment because of its political leaning. I do dig down comments that are just spouting half-assed talking points or growling about the 'liberal bias' on digg or whatever news site.
Second, can you tell me exactly how what Olberman said was 'so liberal'? Rumsfeld made an indirect attack on people who disagree with him, calling them 'confused' and relating them to nazi sympathisers. I'm surprised everyone and their mom isn't jumping up to call him out on how rediculous that is.
It's really sad that calling out a politician on his outrageous claims automatically puts you on the extreme opposite of the political spectrum. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Unfortunately, that would devalue his strong words and everybody would stop caring about what he says. Such speech is good if it's rare.
- rabidjester, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14 I'm with you there. I've had more time than usual to watch cable news and I'm enjoying Cafferty, it's wonderful to watch someone at CNN show that they have a pair.
I dig Dobbs as well. I don't agree with some of his positions, but there's no sugarcoating - pretty sure it says "news, debate and opinion' during the opening credits. - sibhod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15leehodge
It's terribly narrow-minded of you to assume I am a "lefty" because I disagree with you. I know "moonbat" is a pre-existing term, I and merely commenting about how you're using it so much it appears you're trying to make it the new 'hip' word to call people you disagree with. You have used it repeatedly in atleast 3 different digg articles now. I would consider that a trend.
I think any derrogatory slang is stupid, and as for the tern 'neocon', it is quickly approaching slang. 'Neocon' is a really bad example though, because that's only an abbriviation of an actual political movement: NeoConservatism. But anything like "LIEberal" or "republiCRAPPED-HIS-PANTS" are dumb and need to die.
On a more personal note, I think you should take a quick peek in a mirror, leehodge. You are frothing at the mouth with rage for some mythical 'liberal' beast and you're personally attacking anyone who even slightly disagrees with you.
Also, saying "15 times per post" is not a lie, it's an hyperbole. Look it up. - conna, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16To Olbermann: "spoken like a true American patriot." conner
- scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Digg members just hate neo-con facists like O'Reilly & Co. (me included)
- wolfzbane, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17and I suppose that O'Reilly should be compared to Bhagdad Bob then?
- UnholyMoses, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I love how all the right-wingers try to compare Olberman to O'Reilly or anyone else on the right.
He hasn't sexually harassed anyone, nor does he turn off guests mics (like O'Reilly).
He hasn't advocated locking up every brown person (like Malkin)
He hasn't plagiarized or called those who believe something different total fags (like Coulter).
He hasn't advocated locking up all drug offenders forever, only to be a drug offender himself (like Limbaugh)
He isn't racist (like Beck).
Olberman doesn't yell, scream, rant, put forth "venom" (like some here have suggested). To suggest that he’s just a liberal version of any of those folks shows that some here need to put down the crack pipe and slowly walk away. Sure, he may mock others relentlessly, but it's always done with reality on his side.
And as well all know, reality has a well-known liberal bias. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"Why does Olberman keep tying Rumsfeld in with Katrina?"
Hint: They're both examples of the Bush administration's incompetency. - jedikv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12actually the typical Digg population would probably consider the following:
Jon Stewart as God
Stephen Colbert as his Jesus-type son
Keith Oberman as a Moses-type character - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14If conservatives get to have their opinions heard on Fox News, liberals need to have their opinions heard somewhere too.
- scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@Wowbager:
And who would you claim is conservative, bush and his fox friends? They have opened the borders, allowed the government to spend a *****, and has taken away our liberties. That is not conservative. -
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