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- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -7/+47I wonder how many other judges, attorneys, politicians and public officials have quietly buckled under this sort of intimidation already.
Does this smell like a mob tactic, or what? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+37Gee, rightards who harrass the judiciary?
SHOCKER.
The ***** doing this take their lead from the GOP and the Bush administration. President Traitor's lack of respect for the other branches is now deeply seated in the right wing asshatosphere. - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -6/+22Nonsense. Libby got 2.5 years, not 25. And he deliberately obstructed justice, apparently, according to you, for no particular reason, which makes it even worse, not better. It was proven in a court of law to not be an accident or a memory lapse. Give it a rest.
And if you really want to be technical, Clinton was acquitted, so technically, he's innocent -- at worst guilty of splitting hairs. Berger also made up for his heinous crime of trying to show the world that Clinton did in fact successfully quash terrorist plots while the GOP was trying to shift the blame for 9/11 off their heads. - sisko, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18What the hell... you really think covering up sexual exploits is on the same level as covering up an intentional leak of a CIA agent's secret identity???
- TexMurphy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Neocons showing there true morality. Threating to kill the judge thats going to send one of there heroes to jail. ....
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Way to go Neocons stand up for a criminal. I hope the Republicans pay for there corruption in 2008 elections.... - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -8/+20I've always thought the RICO laws would be the thing that finally nailed the GOP. There's not a lot of difference between them and the mob, except the mob has a much lower body count.
- enki25, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Apparently the only thing 29% of this country is interested in are Clinton's penis and Berger's pants.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Hmmm, I'd rather have a Prez lying to try and keep the wife from castrating him because he got some BJs than I would a President who puts men and women serving this country in danger, and maybe even the security of this country, for their own political gain.
Hmmm, outing a CIA agent or getting blown...I'm having a hard time deciding which is worse... - rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -7/+17Hopefully Libby will get sodomized in prison.
- robbiedo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I am surprised no one has brought up the distinct possibility that Bush will commute his sentence. This allows the President to appear presidential, and satisfy, or at least mollify his supporters, and limit damage from critics. Libby stands convicted of perjury, and obstruction, but avoids the prison term. I do not know whether he can still appeal his conviction if his sentence is commuted. This seems to be an astute strategy in which the President recognizes Libby's long term service to his country while supporting appearing to support the rule of law.
Mind you, I am not a supporter of this administration, just suggesting another possible strategy.
Then on Jan 19th, 2009, he can issue the full pardon. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Threatening a JUDGE is really really REALLY bad idea.
- arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7No Speaking from federal statute. US Title 18 I think....
- geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6That would lose the republican presidential bid. Just like Clinton's Marc Rich pardon hurt dems, this is actually much worse. Rich's pardon was investigated, and this would be investigated too. The problem for Bush is Fitzgerald has already implicated Cheney, meaning the pardon actually may be part of a conspiracy - set up a fall guy, pardon him later. The case could easily be proved - Fitzgerald already anticipated this in condemning Cheney. It could be grounds for impeachment, not to mention just being flat out disgusting.
Not to mention Bush saying he would take care of any "wrongdoers". I'm sure he'll justify it in his own way... Shameful. Fitzgerald will have the last laugh though. - FRANKeB, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7He also received repeated requests to go hunting with ***** Cheney.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7@geekee, I'm not sure how to answer a hypothetical question like that. To which of Clinton's million imaginary crimes are you referring? [edit: I saw your edit, but I'm still not sure what you're referring to.]
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4At the moment, Bush's "supporters" are few and far between. He commutes his sentence, he's screwing anyone with ties to himself who still would like to have a political career. You know anyone running against a Bush supporter or friend is going to use the whole pardoning Libby thing against them.
- buffalodan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Judges get letters saying I hate you alot. I wonder if these are I hate you and am going to kill you, or just I hate you.
- praxisseizure, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6The jury decides what is and isn't applicable by laws. If the law is wrong in the jury's eyes, they have the power to nullify it. In this case, they upheld the law. His problem isn't with the judge as he and his cronies are intending to intimidate. No matter how much pressure he puts on the judge, the jury is his real enemy and no judge can dissuade his sentence, maybe postpone it, but inevitably, he'll serve. There's no legal recourse. If he doesn't serve, then we as Americans need to step up and demand his incarceration. No faction of government besides a presidential pardon may usurp the ruling of a jury.
- ISurfTooMuch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@Anthracene
A presidential pardon can't be overridden. The Constitution gives the president the right to pardon people, and there is no recourse by any other branch of government. Personally, I think this is one thing the Framers got terribly wrong. I imagine they inserted it so that, should someone be railroaded through the courts and wrongly convicted, the president could set things right. However, I think they never imagined that a president could use this power to allow the guilty to escape punishment.
IMHO, an improvement on this scheme would be a provision that states that pardons must be confirmed by a two-thirds vote in the Senate within a specified time period. That way, a president couldn't pardon his friends at the end of his term with no consequences to himself. - BeefBaron, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4@JamesSpaza
Oh man, the irony of you saying that under an article about neocons threatening judges is halarious! - gthrank, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Not surprising that the right wing repuglicans would do this. They already have no respect for the justice system (partisan atty firings, suspending habeus corpus, torture, guantanamo), so this is the logical next step.
They're no different from the apartheid government, who excused their despicable actions in the name of "anti terrorism". - Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@robbiedo
Semantics. IF he is pardoned, sentence is commuted, *****, he'll be taken care of by Bush & Friends. It won't matter what's on his record or not.
At this point, I'm thinking no one can restore my faith in our governmental system. I say we fire everyone and elect all new representatives. Or is that too much of a pipe dream? - thefaithful, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Just let Scooter be.
Don't break up a family by detaining him and sending him away! - Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well, my comment WAS sarcastic.....
- BushOwnzLibs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And the 21 percenters cheer while their beloved politicians continue to give them the shaft. Stick it to them again, most ethical congress ever. They like it!
Pathetic! - robbiedo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2All I am saying is that commuting his sentence will play better in Peoria than a pardon at this point, and he will get significant support in the media for commuting, and commuting his sentence can be spun in a way a pardon cannot. I neither am supporting this position, nor defending it. All I am saying is that it is a distinctly possible strategy.
- geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Commute/pardon. That isn't part of "taking care of wrongdoers" like Bush said he would do in this case. It basically guarantees another democratic landslide. Not to mention investigations and reminders during the next election. This goes along with the culture of corruption which voters voted against.
- ISurfTooMuch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I don't think it'd play well at all, except with the few supporters Bush has left, and even some of them may desert him over it. And it wouldn't look presidential; it'd look like Bush taking care of his friends. It'd also put the Republican candidates in an awkward position when they're asked how they feel about it. They'd either have to support Bush's action, which would cost them votes among the general public, or they'd have to condemn it, which would cost them votes from the remaining Bush supporters in the GOP. The best thing Bush could do for his party is to let Libby take the fall and hope the whole thing is forgotten. This would be the best strategy, which means that Bush will probably ignore it and commute Libby's sentence or pardon him outright.
To be honest, I kind of hope he does it, not because I support Bush or Libby in the least but because I think it'd be one more example of this administration's corruption. Bush's approval rating is now 29%. Let's see how low he can push it before his term ends. - JohnGalt01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Dumb *****. No one was ever convicted of releasing a "Secret Identity", because there was no secret identity.
- Anthracene, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3@IsurfTooMuch,
It is not that they are stupid. Quite the contrary. They are at fault for being deceptive and for being callously immoral in their value of human life. I have been more shocked by the fact that they were not as smart as I thought people who had the balls to start multiple "wars" would actually be. Sharpen your criticism. - ISurfTooMuch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I can't say for sure, but if you aren't running antivirus software, this would be a good time to start, just in case.
If you're running Windows and you need free AV software, either AVG or avast! are good choices. I prefer AVG, but either will work just fine. Both have versions that are free for noncommercial home use.
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avast!: http://www.avast.com - mdc777, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Got to love the 'us vs. them' mentality that our government has now successfully propagated to the masses of U.S. citizens, to include the digg 'community'. Our two-party cluster-***** just keeps getting worse and worse and we as a people keep taking it in the ass and playing the game right along with them, while bitching about it at the same time. The sad fact is that something big has to happen to change the system that is slowly taking us down with it. But alas, we are now sucked into the same ***** we want to see changed in Washington and keep perpetuating the divide it causes. Wake the ***** up people, understand that your complacency and blind faith to one side or the other will help cause the downfall of what we are fond of calling the last ‘Super Power’. And yet we seem to be ‘powerless’ to rein in the uncontrolled quagmire we call our ‘Representation’.
- m3mn0n, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You called it.
http://digg.com/politics/BREAKING_Bush_Commutes_Scooter_Libby_s_Prison_Sentence - KhanneaSuntzu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I have seen it written here before, and I keep agreeing: the US stands on the verge of a massive economic collapse, and when it happens there will be civil war between rightwing elements and left-leaning elements. The US harbors a swill of violence, resentment and capacity for brutality few people inside this madhouse have an idea of.
But I am sure Bosnians recognize these contradictions very well. - geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Ted Bundy was a family man too.
- chase001, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1One good anal raping from Bubba and Scooter will be singing like a bird. I think the threats came from Karl Rove.
- miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between "angry, harrassing and mean spirited" and THREATS! For example, DIGG comments are often all three of the former, but rarely the latter!
- boobees, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2soooo my computer went haywire with like 55 windows of this story opening up, so i just rebooted it
is that a virus? what the *****? - Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Speaking from experience?
- kingkilr, on 10/11/2007, -9/+9Duh, NRA... neo-cons... how much more obvious can it get!
- robbiedo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Commuting a sentence is not a pardon. The conviction stays on his record. Symbolically, there is a huge difference. The Dems appear to be on their way to lose the White House again all on their own. How come the Dems can't get their act together, and provide candidates with real leadership abilities?
- Anthracene, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I am not a Bush apologist. In fact I think he is a pawn.
But it would take an act of active preemptive stupidity.... well maybe it is the administration.
On the other hand, I would more likely expect that a group would try to pin false blame on the administration by "attacking the enemy of their enemy " in secret...
Rove is most likely tiptoeing around this situation... but if you are really nuts you might say he could have created this atmosphere hoping to get more press concerning "fringe nutcase terror groups" supposedly doing what I just spoke...
Phew!!! - ISurfTooMuch, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2What? Neocons know how to write? Shocking!
- chrisjj, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2The Republican thugs are at it again - witness the 2000 debacle of an election where vote counting was ended when the mob started beating down the door at the election offices.
Wouldn't be surpised if at least one of my not-so-fellow Diggers was doing the threatening both then and now - because there are certainly a few 'mean-spirited' right wing nutty Digg-stalkers on Digg (or 'rightards' as my friend mightdavefish calls them). - Anthracene, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Not very quid pro quo. I do not think anyone should be sodomized in prison and your comment is kinda... nauseating?
Dugg down for giving me that mental image. - JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0LOL "Scooter."
Have fun in the showers, "Scooter." - IRoaChI, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6Problem there is he will enjoy it¿
- dman4peace, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1What law did Libby break again?
- Anthracene, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1How many pardons have been overridden...?
Especially in lame duck presidents. This is exactly the reason term limits should be lifted on the office of the president.
Really if I am wrong about pardons please someone correct me... -
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