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- deadlyhaiku, on 03/13/2009, -10/+123Cheney will probably have his final heart attack before this investigation ever gets off the ground. It's ridiculous how long it takes for any real justice to occur.
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -15/+108Madoff needs a cell mate.
- duggdowncatisad, on 03/15/2009, -0/+43Want to make Digg's collective head explode? Send Cheney to Gitmo for war crimes, and don't give him a trial.
- theWaterboy, on 03/15/2009, -6/+48Cheney would stab your mother in the heart if it would bring a profit to him--- he is a Dick.
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -6/+45because republicans continue to support these type of people is why they do whatever they want.
because democrates continue to support people who look the other way is why they get away with it. - aphexcoil, on 03/15/2009, -6/+38I like to use hyperbole once in a while but hyperbole this is not -- Cheney is pure evil.
- kanabiis, on 03/15/2009, -5/+35There is no statute of limitations for murder.......
It amazes me that tools like you actually defend the fact that the Bush Administration were criminals.....
By your logic any criminal investigation should not go on longer then a few hours, because after all, the crime was in the past, get over it.
You sir, are part of the problem.... do us a favor and play in traffic - joand315, on 03/15/2009, -0/+23This story is supposed to come out in Vanity Fair coming soon. It will be interesting to read the whole article.
- 1x253, on 03/15/2009, -5/+28From Wikipedia:
"Seymour Hersh is an American Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist and author based in Washington, D.C. He is a regular contributor to The New Yorker magazine on military and security matters.
His work first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. His 2004 reports on the U.S. military's mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison gained much attention.
Hersh received the 2004 George Polk Award for Magazine Reporting[1] given annually by Long Island University to honor contributions to journalistic integrity and investigative reporting. This was his fifth George Polk Award, the first one being a Special Award given to him in 1969."
Wow, this guys a real hack. You can tell because of the Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting and the other accolades.
You know you can trust the Weekly Standard because they're not an agenda-filled rag founded and run by WILLIAM KRISTOL. Holy *****, that's what I call objective reporting. - jsffive, on 03/13/2009, -4/+27I'm a little confused by this. If Ford, by fiat, can simply write an Executive Order banning political assassinations, what's to stop the next President from simply signing an Executive Order that countermands it?
It's been 33 years since Ford signed that order... why hasn't the Congress solidified it in law? My guess would be that it's a tool that they don't really want to get rid of. The Executive Order is just window dressing. - tgc1, on 03/15/2009, -10/+30This is the kind of ***** that should make every American ashamed. That these governments of yours are running secret anything should be of the highest concern in all the land. And that "National Security" nonsense just doesn't work for me. No government should EVER be allowed any secrets. None. Not one. The system was set up under the understanding that they work for US. Not we for them, and in that sort of understanding and arrangement there are no secrets. Especially one of this sort.
This isn't like finding out little timmy has been pissing in your potted plants or taking a dump in the cookie mixer. This is like finding out that someone in your family has secretly been killing people around your neighborhood.
Honestly America, shame on you. - Khast, on 03/15/2009, -0/+20Poly = Many
Ticks = Bloodsucking Leeches
Therefore Politics = Many Bloodsucking leeches. - principle, on 03/13/2009, -2/+20An Executive Order is a clarification of the law (that narrows the reading of the law), which in itself cannot supersede any other law. For example, Ford’s Executive Order that forbids political assassinations is within legal boundaries of existing law and therefore a lawful order. As to “why hasn't the Congress solidified it in law” is because murder is illegal under existing law.
- downwithpeople, on 03/15/2009, -0/+14Cheney shot a man in the face. This should come as no surprise.
- morcheeba, on 03/15/2009, -2/+15Yep, bush said he'd ignore it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63203-20 ...
"Drawing on two classified legal memoranda, one written for President Bill Clinton in 1998 and one since the attacks of Sept. 11, the Bush administration has concluded that executive orders banning assassination do not prevent the president from lawfully singling out a terrorist for death by covert action." - jpsoraire, on 03/15/2009, -1/+14Some people know him as a Former Vice President, the rest of the world knows him as a Dick.
- BelatedHero, on 03/15/2009, -1/+13"leftist agenda"
FACEPALM - TheSwashbuckler, on 03/15/2009, -0/+12"Leave Cheney alone."
I see a YouTube video in your future... - replaysMike, on 03/15/2009, -4/+15CHENEY IS THE DEVIL.
- timsmpt, on 03/15/2009, -0/+11Whether or not there was an assassination ring, Cheney still must be guilty of murder.
- notoneofus, on 03/15/2009, -1/+12I love people whose knee-jerk and thoughtless reactions condemn people for being concerned about the world they live in and the people around them (and in other comments label everyone else as ignorant and arrogant to boot). You'd think close to 70 years of life would have taught you something other than, well...ignorance and arrogance. Oh well.
- Anachronus, on 03/15/2009, -5/+16Assassination as a tool of statecraft can be much cheaper than wars.
Of course one needs a competent intelligence service first. - TheSwashbuckler, on 03/15/2009, -4/+14Yeah, John Dean is a real lefty, having worked for Nixon --- a Republican president.
- ajlmo, on 03/15/2009, -0/+10Like this is some kind of surprise? I'd be more shocked if it didn't happen. Wouldn't even surprise me if it was going on domestically.
There's someone at the door. brb - solidcube, on 03/15/2009, -1/+11You just say that because he had assassination squads and shot an old man in the face with a shotgun for no reason.
- charlie55, on 03/15/2009, -1/+11your conjugation skills have failed you.
- twiztidsinz, on 03/15/2009, -1/+10Issues.
You has them. - positron, on 03/15/2009, -1/+10Agreed. I mean, just look at WWI. If they'd just assassinated Franz Ferdinand that whole mess could have been avoi... Oh, wait. Never mind.
- cambob76, on 03/15/2009, -0/+9Lucky for Cheney it's only 'murder' and not murder.
- robbiedo, on 03/15/2009, -2/+11Remember that whole theory of the Unitary Executive?
From Wikipedia:
John Dean explains: "In its most extreme form, unitary executive theory can mean that neither Congress nor the federal courts can tell the President what to do or how to do it, particularly regarding national security matters." - youannoyme, on 03/15/2009, -0/+8People with half a brain can keep track of multiple issues at the same time. Are you claiming to be deficient?
Besides, while its *not* acceptable to let a criminal walk free just because they walked out of the public's eye, the point isn't nearly as much "Cheney did horrible things, he needs to be punished!" as it is "Holy crap, look what this guy was doing...this needs to be dealt with to make sure the *next* guy doesn't think he can do the same!" - MyBacchanalia, on 03/15/2009, -0/+8It's amazing how people just gobble up the reasons for going to war when the reasons are always the ***** same.
YOU DON'T GO TO WAR TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.
It's about obtaining and securing resources, end of story. - dsanonline, on 03/15/2009, -1/+9And I guarantee you that, regardless of what the truth may be, nothing will _ever_ come of this. It'll be buried ... just like every other dark secret this country has.
- bman1984, on 03/15/2009, -0/+8Cheney would stab his mother in the heart if it would bring him a profit.
- socialweapons, on 03/15/2009, -1/+9Let's try declaring him an "enemy combatant"
- bnasley, on 03/15/2009, -2/+10what's a "debet"?
- inactive, on 03/15/2009, -1/+8Yeah, exactly. That "suitcase nuke on a ship" story sounds like a great opportunity for Bush and Co. to get some extra special terrorists hate our freedom marketing. I call BS.
- Mattwdj, on 03/15/2009, -5/+12So are your comments
- joand315, on 03/15/2009, -1/+8He's been right about everything, sad to say.
- kecher, on 03/15/2009, -2/+9I am sure that some poor dead sailor on that ship, or any of the 'collateral' victims that stand in the way are also thankful for your black ops. I am sorry, but you don't fight terrorism with terrorism.
Also, not that I don't believe you, but this second story sounds plain stupid. So they couldn't just stopped the ship in the international waters and raided it using regular forces, maybe capture few bad guys in the process and collect some evidence, right? Was this the Navy Seal that was on that job?: http://www.click2houston.com/news/9655084/detail.h ... - JackSombra, on 03/15/2009, -0/+7"They had received information that the ship contained a suitcase nuke. They went on board, found the nuke and destroyed the ship."
If such a episode had really happened you can bet your last buck Bush and co would have told everyone and their mama about it, as nothing would have fed their fear machine more than actually finding a suitcase nuke in the hands of terrorists. Off the back of that they could have made sure the rep's stayed in power another 8 years and put into place laws that would have made the patriot act look tame
There might have many missions where they did what you said (hijacking ships, blowing them up because of "intel"), but they never actually found a nuke. - slugpellet63, on 03/15/2009, -0/+6It is always dangerous when the executive branch of any country decides to become judge, jury and executioner, especially so if there is no oversight of these activities. Is this not one of the reasons that gave the justification for the invasion of Iraq and the overthrown of Saddam Hussein (forget WMD - they never existed); he was a bad man, he killed and oppressed his own people, he had death squads (for that is what we are talking about - forget "executive assassination ring" these are death squads) and we needed regime change. I would assume that Saddam would also put forward claims of “national security” for certain of his extra-judicial killings.
Even if all the niceties of the American legal system are complied with, I would bet that most, if not all, of these actions will have taken place outside of the USA. Therefore, they would still be illegal acts in those countries and the people involved would be guilty of murder/conspiracy to commit murder. If these accusations prove to be true this is another reason Cheney et al should be wary whenever they step off a plane in a foreign country. - Peko, on 03/15/2009, -1/+7He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil.
- KyleGoetz, on 03/15/2009, -0/+6Too bad Unitary Executive theory was explicitly rejected in the 50s by the famous Steel Seizure Case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Seizure_Case
God help us if the theory gets hold of us again. - mycoplasma, on 03/15/2009, -1/+7An "executive murder ring"? Too bad Cheney's actually part of the legislative branch!
/s - inactive, on 03/14/2009, -11/+17 Yeah,they are perfect for each other...Oh,and throw Bush in thee too for good measure.
- Lst01, on 03/15/2009, -1/+7Yea, I don't know why people seem to think that covert ops originated with Bush/Cheney.
- woofers07, on 03/15/2009, -0/+6Good luck extraditing his ass.
- DonAlfred, on 03/15/2009, -2/+8Like you're ever gonna put Cheney in jail. Keep dreaming America. Your "democracy" have failed you.
- Nodaki, on 03/15/2009, -5/+11*****! Was that Keith Olbermann doing actual reporting?
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