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- CraigB12, on 10/11/2007, -7/+226"r. Henson, on the other hand, was not permitted to have a defence. The court featured a judge hand-picked by the cult. Scientology was not allowed to be mentioned, and Mr. Henson's witnesses, of whom I was one, were not permitted to give testimony."
How is this legal? Isn't there some senator or congressman somewhere that reads the news that can take care of this? - unusualbob, on 10/22/2007, -15/+132stupid tom cruise.
- Enlightenment, on 10/22/2007, -40/+152
*** REFINE THE WORDS, SPREAD THE WORDS, SAVE THE WORLD ***
Hitler persecutes Jews.
L Ron Hubbard persecutes Psychiatrists.
Hitler destroys lives that doesn't agree with him.
L Ron Hubbard destroys lives that don't agree with him.
Nazi pulls people into concentration camps and won't let them leave.
Scientology pulls people into their religion and won't let them leave.
Nazi distorts history and twists truth.
Scientology distorts history and twists truth.
Hitler controls police for his own purpose.
Scientology control police in Clearwater for their own purpose.
Bugs Bunny makes fun of Hitler and Goering.
South Park makes fun of L Ron Hubbard and Cruise.
Nazi Propaganda.
Scientology Propaganda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_Ron_Hubbard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
How many more examples can you add?
*** REFINE THE WORDS, SPREAD THE WORDS, SAVE THE WORLD ***
Enlightenment Is Truth! - moxley, on 10/11/2007, -11/+96Scieotology is a fraud.
David Miscavage is a liar.
Go ahead *****, let's see you silence me. 1000000 criticas will take this guy's place.
Your church secrets regarding Xenu are a joke.
Your church is a tax shelter and a power base. That is all.
If people get anything out of it, good for them - I am all for that, I wish them no ill will. I support the rights of people to believe what they want, and criticize who they wish.
However, when you use an army of lawyers to stifle free speech, to falsely accuse people of crimes and have them jailed, and violate civil rights your church becomes, in essense, a political gestapo.
Churches who are free don't need an "intelligence service" that acts like some pseudo back bag organization from a bad movie.
***** you, scientology! - dime, on 10/11/2007, -12/+89When trying to make a point, it's probably not a good idea to self Godwin right out the gate.
- DooM, on 10/11/2007, -39/+116It wouldn't be legal - to be honest, I just don't believe this is accurate. So there's a blog post on Dailykos that says this guy is being held without access to representation and without health care... there's no evidence, no journalism involved, just some guy posting on a website that this is true. Keeping the controversy alive might be good for defense donations.
- MikeMacMan, on 10/11/2007, -10/+77***** Scientology.
- doulton, on 10/11/2007, -9/+72from religiousfreedomwatch.org regarding Mr. Henson:
"Keith Henson is an explosives expert and a convicted hate criminal. "
if he's an exlosives expert then any 8 year old kid with a lighter and a can of WD-40 is. - WarpFox, on 10/11/2007, -39/+97This has to be bogus. I've been to jail, if your attorney wants to see you all he has to do is walk in the door. your attorney has access to you 24 hours a day. If he comes to see you at 3am, they wake your ass up and take you downstairs. If they were to deny him, any lawyer that's not completely retarded would raise hell.
Buried/inacurate. - Bixter, on 10/11/2007, -10/+67Maybe if you followed the links for more information, you could see that there are indeed issues with communication. From Keith's wife:
"Keith has been unable to speak with his lawyer since last Wednesday immediately following the hearing.
Whether it's a glitch in the Inmate Telephone system or deliberate, I don't know, but his lawyer has tried everything he knows how to do, called the Inmate Telephone number over and over again to get his account set up, waiting up to half an hour on hold, trying to give payment, etc. He is a 2-hour drive from here, so that is a major problem. The way the system works, Keith can call him but he cannot call Keith. And the system keeps telling Keith his lawyer is not registered.
The way things are, he will not be able to speak with his attorney until the hearing on Friday. I believe this is unconstitutional. " - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -18/+68Damn. Keith is a dead man.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+58@Doom
The article links to another article with all the documentation, or did you not read that far?
As for it not being accurate, it's hardly the first time a trial in some small town was rigged by somebody with power and influence in the area. - DeathHamster, on 10/11/2007, -8/+52"It should be noted that the cult compound in Riverside County is the seat of Scientology power in California. The current head of the cult resides there, and it is home to Golden Era Studios, from whence those exploding volcano infomercials you see on late night cable are produced."
And those PSA commercials from their front group Youth for Human Rights International. Human rights for everyone--except critics of Scientology, how elronic. - tHePeOPle, on 10/11/2007, -3/+39religiousfreedomwatch.org is simply another scientology front organization. EVIL.
- naonao, on 10/11/2007, -6/+36How can we help? Seriously I will actually help in any way I can.
- WarpFox, on 10/11/2007, -2/+31I'll attest to communication issues, it is usually impossible to call -in- to a jail, and usually pretty hard to call out of it. especially if it's long distance.
A lawyer being denied access to his client though would be every lawyer's dream. That would make the front page of a lot more than just digg. - cmkennedy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31Scientology is seriously terrifying.
I think if I ever met a Scientologist in person, I'd likely try my hardest to never, ever meet with them again. I'd hang out all day with a group of Jehovah's Witnesses and evangelical Christians before spending five minutes in the same room as a Scientologist. - dasilva333, on 10/11/2007, -13/+35what can we do to help? we have been given no links/emails/phone numbers to express our disdain/support ... show us the way and the diggers will act on it
@doom ive been following this story on digg and everything he posted is accurate from previous stories - tHePeOPle, on 10/11/2007, -4/+24perhaps you've never hear of L. Ron's Fair Game doctrine cherrick?
- GottIstTot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20This is *****. How is "interfering with a religion" even remotely justifiable as a crime?
- sdigroup, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Scientology = EVIL
- BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22Scientology and the weak minded sheep they attract should be put down like a bunch of dogs with rabies. Evil or heinously stupid, I don't care. Cull the herd and all that.
- cawpin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22I thought it was "Save the cheerleader, save the world."
- milomilomilo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18"Mr. Henson was finally convicted of a misdemeanor charge, "interfering with a religion," and sentenced to nearly a year in the Riverside County jail."
wtf!
scientology is a religion?
And sine when is it illegal to "interfere with religion"
don't religions convert people all the time? - jeremyduffy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Scientology says the Hawaii incident was 70 million years ago. Science says that Hawaii is 40 millions years old. Therefore, scientology is false.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -20/+35
I'm no fan of Scientology at all, but everything about this article makes me want to hear a few more sides. It reads like it's spun so much it's almost cotton candy. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20@Doom
Yes, because 399 pages of court transcripts are "unsubstantiated claims" right?
You're really doing a bad job of defending your cult - laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Scientology is a disgusting, twisted and wretched cult full of filthy, unworthy and stunted fiends who bring nothing but shame to society.
It looks like their cancer has metastasized; they sicken whatever they touch, be it individual lives or national governments. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17too bad he's not some anorexic STD-ridden sub-stupid rich ***** with a jewelled cel phone, then the media would be ALL over this
- cherrick, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17You are aware that online petitions are quite possibly the worst way to try to make your voice heard, right?
- FyodorD, on 10/11/2007, -9/+21dude - that's a physical threat if i ever heard one. prep yourself for gitmo.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19"Keith has been unable to speak with his lawyer since last Wednesday immediately following the hearing"
Uhmm, let's read this literally folks, without the hyperventilation. Note she said "unable to speak..." She did not say "not allowed to speak..." or "waterboarded until he could not speak..."
I haven't been to jail, but I have dealt with lawyers. If, in fact, he has been denied permission to speak to his counsel then that would be a violation of law, it would be a big deal, his lawyer would take it personally, and no one could even think of getting away with it. Publishing something like that would get a reporter promoted and believe me, there's nothing a reporter likes more than to be promoted, and nothing worse than a lawyer taking something personally.
*Much* more likely is that his attorney has been unavailable to speak with him since the hearing for an unrelated reason. On another case, out of town, or hitting the links. But "Keith and his lawyer haven't been able to hook up since the hearing," doesn't make nearly as good a story as all the thoughts that it seems they want to pop into our heads when they say "unable to speak...(wink)."
I honestly don't think that a good way to put limits on the Scientologists is to sink to their level on this. - ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16Call your congressman! Call the media! Print leaflets and give them to your neighbors, colleagues, on the street, and tell them to contact their congressmen and the media!
- nosecohn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Hey, that's a good idea! Let's see... they don't believe that Allah is God, they use "drugs" (actually excessive doses of vitamins to induce euphoria, from what I've read), they try to infiltrate and influence other countries, and they're mostly white. They're the PERFECT enemy for Al Qaeda! How do we set this up? I'm sure the CIA could somehow convince each of them that the other is "out to get them".
- BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14He makes a good point and this list should be dugg up not down. I had no idea it was this bad and I think it might sway some people who weren't sure yet if this cult is bad news. They have one hell of a propaganda machine.
In my opinion it'd be great news if the next serial killer started targeting Scientologists. I know I wouldn't give a ***** if I heard about someone blowing up their leader or something. The world would be better off! Germany had the right idea by just banning the church. - moxley, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17Even if he was a "knucklehead" that is not a jailable offense.
They didn't like the guy because (from what I understand) he made it his mission in life to criticize them, show up at their events holding pickets, etc.
I kow a lot about scientology as I grew up in southern california and hung out on Hollywood blvd in te late 80s often buying records, etc near their center there and they woluld always bring me and my friend in, get us to watch movies, etc. They weren't so bad, and the people I met there were nice, but they very much had this glow of roboticness about them - I can;t explain it.
I had a friend who was a scientologist who had some very bad experiences of the type you commonly heqar about, and I have read and studied up on what they do, and how their organization works.
Personally I don't know if people like Tom Cruise believe all that Xenu ***** - I kind of think that the actors like having an organization where they all get together - it;s like a networking thing on some levels - they have their private church/club and get some psychology out of it (i am sure they would hate anyone using that word, but the auditing process is similar to counseling in some ways)....It's kind of known as being helpful to yor career if you are a celebrity of a certain level and want to meet and get in with cliques of people.
Nothing wrong with that...My problem with them is when people try to leaveand criticize them, and their extralegal and agressively fascistic methods and manipulations to silence and destroy their critics, to control organizations and cities where they have a large prescence, etc. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12it figures california would have a law that could put someone in jail for interfering with a religion...
the guy is 64 years old and was picketing (called free speech which is guaranteed to us) for gods sake. are you kidding me california??? - BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11@eviscero
Either the charges are real and completely fabricated or you're just another ***** Digg shill working on your ***** $cientology agenda.
I'd go with the latter. - kooft, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16"The way things are, he will not be able to speak with his attorney until the hearing on Friday. I believe this is unconstitutional."
And no judge in his right mind would proceed if the circumstances surround this lack of communication were valid. The judge would simply order a postponement of a week to allow for a proper communications to take place. If not, then the lawyer has good grounds for an appeal. Sure, this doesn't help the guy in jail immediately, but it will definitely work itself out in the long run. I'm sure if the presiding judge gave the appearance of impropriety, the appellate court would have some raised eyebrows. - thrallie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Catherine Bell is in scientology? whaatt?? she has big juggs!
- Unclekoolaid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Tom Cruise is that you?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15i think the ATF should go waco on their ass, but this time on someone who deserves it
- zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16Yay for Canadian citizenship and residency.
- Llance, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Yeah, Scientology helped her with that.
- cawpin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Scientology is a cult, a very expensive one. It is NOT a religion. I've never seen anyone with a brain defend it. I am a Christian; please don't associate me with scientology.
Technically, Christianity isn't a religion either because it isn't based on acts to get something, "do this and you go to heaven". It is a faith, not a religion. - cmkennedy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Bravo. Dugg up for the $cientology "Fair Game" reference that others obviously don't get.
- guregu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10There isn't any record of him in Arizona's Department of Corrections Inmate Database. If he has been in there for 8 months, surely he would show up by now. Take a look for yourself: http://test.azcorrections.gov/isearch/inmate_datasearch/index.aspx
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17Watch it, they have powers no human can possess, being of alien decent and all.
Plus, they will force keith to read their most secret document and have his head explode!
http://www.shoutwire.com/default.aspx?p=comments&id=27043 (beware, your head can explode)
Is there anything else that this poor excuse for a sci-fi writer can do to violate the laws of our country? - BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9That treatment is wrong. Welcome to the real world.
- redknight79, on 10/11/2007, -7/+15They dont 'let you quit' thats the Cult part...those who have left are either publicly destroyed and/or silenced. This poor bastereds future doesnt look bright...or long...
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