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thinkprogress.org — Imus: "They will cherry pick some places for me to go look at, but they don ’t want me just going down there looking at the entire facility. I’m not interested in having that."
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- mightydavefish, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30The GOP can't let the truth out about how badly they ***** on the troops.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -16/+44Maybe it's because Imus isn't a journalist or a Congressman or Senator or a General or the President.
He's a 90yr old Radio Jock.
I know if I was injured in Iraq and recovering at Walter Reed I wouldn't want to see Don Imus
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Maybe they were worried that if he ventured to far into the hospital they would think he belonged there, that guy is a decrepit monkey skeleton.
If your really outraged about this you need to get a life. Think about it and say it after me...
"I am reading Digg and I am really, really mad that Imus in the Morning doesn't get to see ALL of Walter Reed Hospital"
Really? You Are?
get a life.
It would be a headline if it was a Congressman or woman who didn't get access, but Don Imus? Who cares? - LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10@gordo: Actually, the troops were glad to see Imus because John McCain invited him to visit Walter Reed year or so ago. Plus Imus was very active in helping raise financial support for the Center for the Intrepid, a place where servicemen and woman can now go to recover from serious combat wounds. The center was built totally by private donations. Now that he has learned of the deplorable conditions of Building 18, he is even more concerned with the treatment of the soldiers returning home, maimed for life in some cases and has been railing against the administrations complete indifference to the issue. So, he is something of a hero to those troops.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13So his "concern" and "celebrity status" gives him access to parts of the hospital that are off limits to civilians?
- LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@gordo: It was not off limits to Dana Priest, who works for the Washington Post. She visited there and filed the report that sparked the current debate on the treatment of soldiers. I'm not sure why you don't more exposed on this issue, no matter who generates the interest.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14"The GOP can't let the truth out about how badly they ***** on the troops."
Yea, cuz the Democrats were herding puppies and forging rainbows when the GOP invaded Iraq right?
No Democrats authorized this war? No way! If they did, they got duped by the Evil Master Mind President with the 8th grade reading level.
Sure speaks volumes about the people who got duped.
Oh Digg, everything is the Republicans fault right? - PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Doing a story about how VA hospitals aren't as good as they need to be is like doing a story about how the Sun is still hot today. VA hospitals have always suffered from lack of funds and anybody who thinks the Dems are not just as responsible for the problems is just a Democrat Fan-boy who will never see anything for what it really is.
- boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1every member of congress, plus the president and his admin are responsible for the treatment of veterans. they are all to blame. as a listener, I know that Imus says this every morning, plus he blames himself and the rest of the media for not uncovering this story sooner.
- contentpig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Who is Imus? Is he like Stern or something?
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -16/+44Maybe it's because Imus isn't a journalist or a Congressman or Senator or a General or the President.
- hathi32830, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26These cowards use the troops as shields from criticism of the Iraq fiasco. They let them fight and die without proper equipment or support. They let private contractors steal our money, but refuse to adequately fund our troops or the medical system needed to care for them when they're wounded in action.
The politicians in both parties who got us into this, or allowed it to happen, deserve nothing short of our contempt.- woadlined, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Moreover, the saddest part is this: criminal neglect of the VA Hospital system is nothing new - it's been going on for as long as we've fielded a militia.
Even in the best of peacetime circumstances, veterans have been getting the shaft when it comes to health care.
The message is clear - serve your country, but don't expect the country to give a darn about you afterward.
Now watch this..there will be a flurry of attention on the topic (not just on social networking sites such as digg), which will quickly die down after Paris Hilton forgets to wear underwear again...and veterans will be right where they've always been...***** out of luck. - ccrook, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"They let them fight and die without proper equipment or support."
You mean like the Democrats cutting off funding for the war? - d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ccrook - Are you really that stupid?
- woadlined, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Moreover, the saddest part is this: criminal neglect of the VA Hospital system is nothing new - it's been going on for as long as we've fielded a militia.
- bleuwolfe, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12What they deserve is to lose their jobs. So Vote. Oh yeah, where were the citizens of this country when lie after lie was rolled out? When the TV bobble heads were cheer leading to the drum beats of Bush's war machine? Why are we not raging in the streets, even now? "WE The People" allowed the corporations to steal our country and use our troops to increase their profit margins. So we're all to blame. Look in your mirror. The real question is are we going to do something about it or just bitch and whine. We can reclaim our country, but we have to get off the sofa and turn off the big screens. Start thinking. Start acting. Now.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -13/+9Look in the mirror. Do you look as lame as you sound? Your sitting on your ass reading Digg bitching about how you didn't get off your ass.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Bush's war machine?
Ok, so the Democrats that voted for the war are exempt?
You tell us to vote, yet vote for who?
Vote for Democrats who voted for the war? Why? Just because they aren't Republicans who voted for the war?
What kind of logic is that?
It's like saying, "I'm not going to drink soda anymore, so I think I'll drink diet soda instead." - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Vote for Democrats who voted for the war?"
No vote for anyone who is against the war and/or rampant corporatism. There are some republicans as well as indy...but most of those moderates were wiped out in the last election. - xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Oh I agree with you.
As soon as Digg stops ignoring the fact that Democrats authorized this war along with Republicans we can start moving forward. For some reason many on Digg think that the same Democrats who voted for the war are the ones who will lead us toward future peace.
It's laughable.
I couldn't support someone who is not responsible for their own actions. To me it is worse to make a vote, then run from it, blaming everyone else other than yourself for it. - tHePeOPle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3xGORDOx,
Yeah, congress is to blame for believing all the horrible lies and ***** that was the basis for the war. It's their fault for taking the President of the United States at his ***** word. Remind us all why we're in iraq again Gordo... wmd? terror? Sadam? oil? Al Qaeda? to test cool new weapons? or maybe it's because we just love sand so ***** much. - r81984, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Gordo you are retarted.
Anyone who did not approve the war with the infromation given at the time would be as dumb as you.
Congress are very busy people they have to put more trust in their collegues then to see it for themselves.
Do you trust your newspaper? Do you trust your local news?
The problem is they trusted Bush and Cheney who lied to everyone about the threat of Iraq.
So what you need to ask congress is would they have voted for the war if they knew the truth? The ones who say yes should not be reelected.
Also its sad when I see congressmen admitting they made a mistake to vote for this war, they did not make mistakes. Bush and Cheney made the mistakes when they lied to everyone. - d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nobody in Congress voted for this war. They voted to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions. Making up ***** to suggest that there were WMD's does not fulfill that requirement. And for those, that say that everybody thought there were WMD's in Iraq, I say, that it was pretty obvious that there wasn't any evidence of that. And most people knew it. The fact that, for the first time in history, Generals, large numbers of the members of the CIA, DoD, FBI, etc. were resigning and/or speaking publicly about the manipulated intelligence regarding WMD's should have been a good clue that there was something rotten in Denmark. Which there was.
- waxoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25I was in the Army for 9 years. This is typical Army reaction no matter who is currently in charge. Its nothing new. Officials know ***** is ***** up, and have nothing to gain personally by exposing it. Heads roll for it. The truth is the military is a huge behemoth that is governed from the top down. Officers sit in the military equivalent of ivory towers and decide where the money goes. Nine times out of ten this leads to a perfectly good building being renovated 6 times in 12 years while the decrepit enlisted quarters next door falls apart. Similar decisions lead to billion dollar aircraft and faulty $0.01 springs in rifle magazines. It's so bad a common phrase is "No, wait don't do that. That'd make too much sense."
- hmmmok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've always been a supporter of the military, but there is no accountability for the top brass. And they like it that way.
- AllnightChemist, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I admit I had no idea what "Imus Barred from Touring All of Walter Reed" meant. I thought maybe All of Walter Reed was a band or something, and Imus was a former lead singer...
So, one more person is informed . Thanks, Digg. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Walter Reed is not the same as the VA hospitals. VA hospitals lead the nation in customer satisfaction and costs.
- jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"VA hospitals lead the nation in customer satisfaction and costs."
Yeah, according to the Army...and really that isn't saying much as we are talking about American health care...which helps in the highest infant mortality rate in the country. I recently heard an article about a soldier who was denied treatment, went to a public hospital and was charged with desertion. Can find it if you like. - joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Yeah, according to the Army...and really that isn't saying much as we are talking about American health care..."
I agree with your latter point, but the former has actually been determined through hard facts:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/21/AR2005082101073.html
It is certainly a shame (and conondrum) that we're one of the last major modern countries in the world that still refused to adopt universal health care, even when a model of the benefits of having one exists right under our noses.
- jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"VA hospitals lead the nation in customer satisfaction and costs."
- thrilladdict, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Imus is still alive?
- jcervoni, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Imus is an ass clown... who even listens to that no talent hack anyway... and why should He be given special access?
- diggityiggity, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Perhaps his prior activism to get better medical care for soldiers injured in combat qualifies him?
Just a guess. Ass clown. - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"to get better medical care for soldiers injured in combat qualifies him?"
I always thought conservatives think outsourcing to the lowest bidder is the answer to anything governmental. He actually cares about troops? Shocked...I'll have to give him another chance. - xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I'm sure Ratings(Revenue) have nothing to do with it.
Nah. - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"I'm sure Ratings(Revenue) have nothing to do with it.
Nah."
America's oldest conservative shock jock? No way. - boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Imus is the man. he's a tough interviewer and he doesn't take sides based solely on partisan lines. I don;t always agree with him, but I respect him for being a true independent.
- diggityiggity, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Perhaps his prior activism to get better medical care for soldiers injured in combat qualifies him?
- jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The VA should run the VA not the Army.
- h00paj00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Those in the hospital could mistake him for the Cryptkeeper or the Grim Reaper!
- combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Imus is still alive? go figure.
- Toddbrew1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Imus is mushy mouth drunken slob cowboy wanna be. Maybe they should tour his home for specil kids he and his wife are running at his Monlight Bunny Ranch. His face is melting off him and always looks like he has a diaper full of *****.
- combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3the same ranch he built using govt money "for special kids" that are only there for 10 days out of the year.
- jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Approx 4% of money made for a charity has to be spent on it to be considered a charity. Prove to me it isn't a tax shelter, and maybe I'll take a second look. Many charities are basically for legal money laundering to avoid taxes. I don't care which party you claim...if you are rich and you are all over a charity...I have some questions about the real reason you are so generous. Charities have been started by middle/working class people that help a lot and aren't tax havens.
- boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i dunno, I listen to him and believe his intentions are good. if he was going to set up a charity for tax reasons, wouldn't he probably have picked a much easier and less heart-wrenching endeavor than providing terminally ill kids expensive vacations?
he also apparently devoted a lot of effort to raise funds for the privately funded new hospital for soldiers with combat wounds in texas.
- InsaneGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It doesn't surprise me, and it's not because of any conspiracy theory. My wife has a number of spinal injuries and she goes in for a number of outpatient treatments (injecting certain things around her spine) in a pain clinic. They will not let me back there to wait with her, not because of sterility, etc issues but because of right to privacy. Their area is basically like an ER room, basically with beds and sheets between them, I am not allowed to go back there because each patient has their right to not have their medical information known by others. A TV news team can't just randomly go through any random hospital in the US, open doors and start interviewing people they have a right/expectation of privacy. Why would Imus think he should have some "uber" power beyond the rights of every journalist in the US and just be able to go anywhere, record anything and stick a microphone in any patient's face?
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1But, but, it is the Evil Dictator Bush Suppressing Imus's Freedoms!
Privacy is only for journalistic sources, don't you know?
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1But, but, it is the Evil Dictator Bush Suppressing Imus's Freedoms!
- dexterbritt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Sticky situation, but I think everybody knows when budgets dry up, the priority becomes only 'able to fight' personnel. Hope the GOP is exposed for their lack of true heart and sense of responsibility.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The GOP?
How about the bureaucracy that is our Government?
Coke and Pepsi are both Cola.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The GOP?
- ifire, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I absolutely love my school's new web filter software... it keeps us from looking at the horrible evil opposing view... Praise be to Jesus...
- DoctorOrpheus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3B.F.D.. They won't give free run of the place to a geriatric, washed up walking corpse. Oh my god, its a GOP conspiracy, because Bush is worse than Hitler.. Are you people serious? This is a grave injustice? That a D list, no, F list "celebrity" can't just go where he pleases.. Yep.. the US is just like the Eastern Bloc countries in the 1970's.. its that bad, cause Don "I talk like I was just chewing on a diaper full of *****" Imus can't dictate what parts of the Hospital he will see.
Isn't there a pro mac, anti mircrosoft article that could have taken this ones place? Or some list of teh most bestist free OS X apps?- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2^ No doubt!
It's ***** like this that shows how ridiculous people have become.
How many posts here are blaming the GOP for this?
The GOP? Really?
Last I knew it was a two party system!
Blame the GOP for ***** they have actual control over, VA hosipital access isn't one of them.
- xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2^ No doubt!
- LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The gist of the Imus story is about the condition of the hospital. I don't know how this became a discussion about partisan politics. The United States Government has a debt to the men and women of the armed forces. They should honor that debt by providing them with the best medical care possible. We should be talking about that instead playing this tiresome blame game.
- LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@combustion - The kids are there every summer for three full months and at other intervals as well. The ranch is funded by 100% by charitable contributions and has been thoroughly vetted by regulatory bodies including the NY A.G's office. The purpose of the ranch is to help kids with cancer or with siblings with cancer deal with death and to help them regain their confidence after being diagnosed and treated with terminal forms of cancer. It's a worthy cause but as always there are those who seek to see something that is not there. If Imus need a ranch for himself, he could have just of just built one.
- luther70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@xGORDOx
Congress authorized Bush to us force. Thats a little different than telling him to use force. It was still Bush's decision to Invade. He made the call. Bush is the Decider. This is his responsibility. Congress (wrongly in my opinion) said they trust Bush. In the end if every Democrat voted against the the authorization to use force it still would have passed. - kaiser44, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This has ounce again proved to be a cluster ***** brought on by a federal government, repub's and dems.
This is nothing more than a bloated bueracracy .
both parties are to blame.
This ***** has been going on forever.
both parties share equally in the blame. period
neither gets off the hook.
And for all you people who want universal healthcare trust me, this is the kind of ***** all of us will have to put up with.
This is a government ***** up typical and not unexpected. When people start to understand that the government can do very little on a large scale and really hold all of these ***** accountable for the wast and mismanagemant of tax dollars it will never change.- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually government-run healthcare (VA, not walter reed) is better than private healthcare:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/21/AR2005082101073.html
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually government-run healthcare (VA, not walter reed) is better than private healthcare:
- r81984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Imus is a piece of ***** anyways. They need to let someone who will not lie actually tour the hospital.
- Jaysturn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Baba Booey!
- yakoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Imus has done a lot to help disabled soldiers. I think he is clean these days. I believe that he is trying to help injured troops. Let us see how this develops. He does not owe anyone anything.
- Ardie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When you enlist you think you are patriotic hot *****. But get wounded or lose some parts. Things change then. You then become cold *****. This is what Walter Reed is about. And you get very little disability. Certainly not 100% Only officers get 100%. A Navy Corpsman in the Vietnam war, I saw an alcoholic officer get 100% disability and a Marine rifle rat get 20% for a missing arm. Scew this war—screw all these kinds of wars. Nobody is a hero by dying in a Muslim civil war. Only when the enemy steps on your shore can you become a hero. The rest is dying for corporations.
- yakoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That being said, Ardie, these national guard troops should get good treatment, and there is no excuse for substandard conditions at Walter Reed.
- nonchallant0819, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0This is a great story... found this one through http://www.google.com
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