What is Digg?Sponsored by Dragon Age: Origins
See the new YouTube feature trailer for Dragon Age: Origins view!
youtube.com/DragonAge - EA presents BioWare's new dark fantasy epic Dragon Age: Origins. '9/10' from Game Informer.
1119 Comments
- bratpack8, on 02/13/2008, -112/+497Once again, these people miss the key point. Religion isn't the problem, it is the use of force. That force can only be carried about via the power of the State. People should voluntarily choose whether or not to go to church, support a church or religion and how they worship. However, if the church forces others to act against their will, that is wrong as well. But the real reason for the blame is crosses on public property and gays don't get special rights, which is the other side 'forcing' their will upon others.
As for gay marriage, government shouldn't even be involved in marriage. And government shouldn't be giving gays different rights from heterosexuals either. - chocobomog, on 02/13/2008, -20/+341Didn't John Lennon already tell us to imagine this?
- Innisskillin, on 02/13/2008, -42/+321With or without religion, good men perform good deeds and bad men perform evil deeds. It is only with religion that good men perform evil deeds.
- jayb1rd, on 02/13/2008, -11/+196If every time I drive through the Midwest I have to deal with giant fetuses, crosses, and signs saying that I'm going to go to hell, I don't see why it should be a big deal that someone wanted to pay for space to make people think about atheism.
- h0ser, on 02/13/2008, -34/+159There should be more things out there similar to this sign. In Canada a few years back a member of parliament suggested that we take all mention of God out of Government and everyone laughed him out of the room. He had to issue an apology later that week. The world is a ***** up place and people have to realize that religion isn't making it any better. Also a government supporting one religion over the others is a slap in the face to the non represented religions. So "In God We Trust" is actually an insult to the majority of the world.
- lnf69, on 02/13/2008, -43/+158um, this has been said many times before, but looks like it needs to be said again.
As long as the gov't recognizes marriage as a formal contract between individuals, and thus these individuals receive many financial and social advantages that non-married ppl do not enjoy, then you cannot say that " government shouldn't even be involved in marriage... "
If marriage did not bring a whole bunch of social and financial advantages, then you might be correct.
But marriage has A LARGE IMPACT ON SECULAR LIFE REGARDLESS OF RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, so the religious right is in the wrong in stuffing their beliefs down others throats. - inactive, on 02/13/2008, -66/+179I can't wait till the blight of religion is stamped out of the fabric of humanity. Too bad I'll probably be long dead before that happens.
- theshizzler, on 02/13/2008, -11/+111"One last point, if it was not for Christian Humanism there would be no secular humanism."
Except for the fact that Humanism predates Christianity by at least 600 years. - LeeSoong, on 02/13/2008, -5/+101" Imagine No Billboards " billboards would be nice,
- Zone them, outlaw them, ban them.
Billboards look cheap, lower your property values, block the view, advertise junk, and are generally very, very annoying - especially the new giant bright flashing lighted LCD billboards.
Probably cause more car accidents because people get distracted by whatever,
and drop their cell phone in their coffee while applying makeup and driving . . . - aresef, on 02/13/2008, -26/+119Religion? Harmless. Organized religion? Harmful. History shows that.
- fuzzmeister, on 02/13/2008, -28/+111I don't agree with the sentiment that religion should be eliminated at all, but I think raising the concept of the legitimacy of atheism is a good cause.
- hierophantus, on 02/13/2008, -3/+85What makes you think you can't express it publicly or act on it politically? You may feel as though you can't, but you *obviously* can.
No one is going to stop you from airing your views in public, but then again you can't realistically expect no one to respond with their own views which may--shock--include criticism of your views. And if you want to act on your religious views politically, there are numerous organizations you can participate in and a presidential candidate named Mike Huckabee who stands for those ideals.
I really cannot stand it when Christians play the "poor oppressed majority" card. One minute it's "we built this country and you athiests are just a vocal minority; we don't need to listen to you" and the next it's "we're being overrun by the godless! they're everywhere!" Pick one and stick with it.
On second thought, don't pick either one of those ridiculous self-pitying extremes. Just live your faith honestly and leave everyone else's beliefs alone. And get over the persecution complex. It's overwrought, silly, embarrassing and offensive to reason. You're not hiding in the catacombs; you're not dodging lions; not even close. - bjstiktrix, on 02/13/2008, -17/+97"Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one"
- John Lennon - pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -15/+91no one is telling religious people they can't believe. but religious people are trying to push their beliefs on others. just because you don't like gays doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same rights as heterosexuals. just because you define life as starting at conception doesn't mean everyone else has to. muslims define it has when the bones develop, jews define it as birth. who are you to define life for everyone else?
- Terr01, on 02/13/2008, -3/+77Well, If I had my way...
Everywhere in the law, "Marriage" should be changed to "Civil union", and "wife" or "husband" to partner, spouse, whatever: Some generic term. Let the "sanctity of marraige" folks take their label and do whatever they want with it. "Marriages" would be solely a private label bestowed by a church or private group with no legal force. (You want to get "married"? The bartender could do it during happy hour, for all the government cares.)
So the church tells you whether you're living in sin, and the government takes care of whether you have a legally recognized family-unit partnership of some sort, with all the power-of-attorney, inheritance, etc. etc. that is implied.
Most people would then file the paperwork for a union before their actual ceremony. Sure, it's a little less romantic, but the alternative is being embarrased if you found out after the vows that someone made a typo and you had to resubmit in triplicate. - inactive, on 02/13/2008, -13/+87Imagine what would happen if i tried to raise hell over a church billboard.
America is about freedom of religion... as long as you're a christian. - EatingPie, on 02/13/2008, -82/+154An atheist organization puts up signs protesting Christians putting up religious symbols. Kinda ironic. :-)
Religion certainly can be restricting for many people, but I get the impression that these people want to be restricted. It's easier for them to live under rules and guidelines than for them to think for themselves or even *understand* those rules and guidelines. However, it's a fallacy to conclude that all religious people mindlessly follow dogma. There's a long tradition of people coming to a religious belief through debates, logic and reason. C.S. Lewis and Francis A. Schaeffer are probably the most famous examples of such people. While "Doubting Thomas" has gotten a bad name traditionally, he actually is someone to celebrate for his honesty -- Christ himself had no problem whatsoever with Thomas' doubts -- he's among several other Biblical figures who expressed doubt directly to Christ's face... and if Christ could handle it, we should be able to also.
-Pie - madeingermany, on 02/13/2008, -37/+99Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... - GhostyBoy, on 02/13/2008, -3/+63You know who never protests abortions or gay rights, never starts a jihad or suicide bombs anyone, and never exploits the suffering of their people for political gain, never goes to war under the pretense of the flag, never tries to convert you or persecute your beliefs?
The ***** Buddhists, man. - MaynardJK, on 02/13/2008, -25/+77*As long as the gov't recognizes marriage as a formal contract between individuals, and thus these individuals receive many financial and social advantages that non-married ppl do not enjoy, then you cannot say that " government shouldn't even be involved in marriage... "*
Jesus Christ. What the ***** do you think he meant when he said " government shouldn't even be involved in marriage"? Perhaps he meant that these individuals SHOULDN'T "receive many financial and social advantages that non-married ppl do not enjoy" - fotoman, on 02/13/2008, -7/+54Ahh, my membership dollars going to good use. The Freedom From Religion Foundation (ffrg.org) is more than just billboards... for instance, they pay for the 1 and only lobbyist in Washington who is looking out for the 15-19% of the US that does not believe in the supernatural.
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -9/+50WWFSMD?
- yohnstoppable, on 02/13/2008, -14/+55It's easy if you try
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -11/+52Religion, even organized religion, isn't necessarily the problem. Fanaticism and extremists are the problem, and that goes for every kind of interest there is, beyond religion.
I understand the point they are making, but they are referring to the extremist portion of religion. On that I agree. - azAZ09, on 02/13/2008, -2/+40Not all jews see it that way. Many of the Jewish mothers i know define life as beginning at graduation from medical school. And the right to abort is retained until that day .
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -3/+41Religion has been given too much liberty to murder and enslave humans while hidden in the garb of "Faith". It and whoever believes it does not deserve to pick the fecal matter from my ass. Politeness is out the door by far by now. I don't give a damn what brand of ***** anyone believes.
Feel free to believe in whatever brand of ***** you want, but when those beliefs begin to turn into laws and campaign platforms, you've overstepped the boundry separating church from state.
Thats what happening in this country. Don't expect politeness
America is a nation based on FREEDOM. If you want a little Christian wonderland, then GO FORM ONE. America has already been earmarked as a democratic republic. We have no room for religious zealots trying to elbow in.
http://atheism.about.com/b/a/198420.htm - ragnar0kk, on 02/13/2008, -7/+44"Except for the fact that Humanism predates Christianity by at least 600 years."
Athiests 1, Christians 0 - AJanitor, on 02/13/2008, -10/+45I personally feel like religion can be taken to a terrible extreme, but I also feel like anti-religion can be taken to a terrible extreme.
I think it's hypocritical to say that "we should abolish all religions.". Come on, that's just the opposite side of an extreme.
There has to be balance and there has to be respect on BOTH sides. You don't have to agree but you should allow for the existence of beliefs (or lack of) contrary to yours, regardless of what side you're on.
I find it odd that Barack's speech on tolerance was dugg so much a few days ago. The kind of comments I'm reading to seem to have already disregarded what he spoke of. - theshizzler, on 02/13/2008, -1/+35Your logic is flawless.
- UltraPope, on 02/13/2008, -1/+33Google Cache:
http://66.102.9.104/search?hs=sUq&hl=en&lr=&c2coff ... - benjaminbr, on 02/13/2008, -1/+31and he got shot.
- 0xception, on 02/13/2008, -2/+32what?
how can you possibly say that w/ out Christianity humanism would not have been preserved? there are sections of the world that had little influence by the christian world. and guess what! Humanism still exists. do you know anything about other religions? how much do you know about Buddhism? Hinduism? Taoism? and the many other none Judeo-Christian based religions?
Humanism exists as a thread that bind most religions together... NOT the other way around. - yohnstoppable, on 02/13/2008, -2/+32I believe in burying Ockniel. Not believing in god does not constitute believing in nothing.
- ajames01, on 02/13/2008, -5/+33One of these billboards were up right across from my apartment... for a week... then a new church billboard replaced it...
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -7/+34***** you and your god in the ass with a ***** pipe wrench.
- wrenchone, on 02/13/2008, -0/+27And he got yelled at too.
- orangefly, on 02/13/2008, -0/+27a Jew, an Atheist, two Catholics, and an Agnostic walk into a bar....
- michaelmacmanus, on 02/13/2008, -3/+29This is a complete falsity. To say that we need imaginary entities to guide moral choices is absurd. To claim Christianity has a monopoly on morality, or at the very least carried it's torch through the ages is the epitome of arrogance.
How easy it must be to simply dismiss eastern religions that have preached this for millennia before Christ set foot on earth, and continue to preach it to this day. - LomasLou, on 02/13/2008, -14/+40Imagine, No Religion, No Dubya
- mweels, on 02/13/2008, -2/+28
That is the problem with you people who think this life is nothing but a stepping stone to heaven where life will finally be great.
You don't care about anyone but God during your life and care less about the people in this life.
Me on the other hand, I live everyday to the fullest because for all I know it could be my last day, and that my friend has me very far from miserable.
I would say your are miserable because you don't appreciate ***** in the only life you have to live!! What have you done for your family lately? What have you done for your community lately? What have you done for you lately? Nothing - because you sit around staring at a book all day. - orangefly, on 02/13/2008, -1/+26you kicked your own ass....
- lewscroo, on 02/13/2008, -7/+32Global warming is science, not religion. Science comes to informed conclusions based on evidence. Religion pulls things out of their arse.
- tacohead, on 02/13/2008, -3/+27oh yeah, I must agree! That Spanish inquisition, the destruction of myan culture, the witch trials, various American Indian massacres. Those were all great examples of Christianity preserving humanitarianism and morality.
- aliengoods, on 02/13/2008, -0/+24Kent, hate to tell you, but you just did express it publicly.
.......have the heathens killed you yet? Didn't think so. - inactive, on 02/13/2008, -1/+24Buddhists also aren't theists though. There's many philosophies and organized lifestyles that we call religion but that actually have no God involved. In fact when asked whether or not there is God, Siddartha (*The Buddha) answered that it was unknowable and therefore ludicrous to waste any of your life on. The whole point of Buddhism is to free yourself from suffering in this world, not the the next. Now there are off-shoots that are religions like the very well known Tibetan Buddhism that deal directly with religious and mystical ideas such as reincarnation and gods, and there are even Buddhist Christians. This is again because Buddhism is not a religion but a way of life and philosophy that one could apply over any religion or no religion at all.
- bemenaker, on 02/13/2008, -2/+25Marriage is a legal contract. It started as a religiously acknowledged legal contract, that didn't need a ceremony or permission to be. If you said you were married, you were. Today, marriage is nothing but a legal contract between two people. So, there should be no basis of sexual creed associated.
Time the religious right go reread the NEW TESTAMENT, not the OLD, and listen to Jesus said. I'm an atheist, and I can see it easier than they can. Actually, that's why. If you really think Jesus would tolerate you condemning people, you better go spend some time reading. - merper, on 02/13/2008, -0/+23Buddha lived in B.C. But hey It's not like Christianity wasn't around back then too
- coheedcollapse, on 02/13/2008, -1/+24Hierophantus, If I could give you a million thumbs up, I would.
- ggnictee, on 02/13/2008, -7/+30The problem isn't' religious people. It's people. If there were no religion, we would fight over something else. A good point was made above about Mao and Stalin. People in power will try to retain it, people will out power will try to get it. It has nothing to do with religion except collaterally.
but it's a good conversation to have. We should always talk. So go, talk to eachother, share you beliefs and dreams and crazy hopes.
Just be patient with eachother, be kind to eachother. If we could do that much... - Hastin, on 02/13/2008, -4/+26Well, I believe I'm commenting on Digg right now, so I believe in something.
-
Show 51 - 100 of 1129 discussions
Browsing Digg on your phone just got easier with our enhancements to the 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is