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- AriaStar, on 10/11/2007, -14/+167Whether or not you support the war, the least you can do is to care about the troops who were ordered over there. And have some care as well for the innocent Iraqi lives lost over this. Not every dead person was a terrorist, you know.
- Waiting2awake, on 10/11/2007, -52/+200 *sits and waits patiently for those pro-war supporters*
Doesn't everyone know, you don't actually have to care for the troops as long as you say you do.
Oh and shout down anyone who wants them to be removed from an unwinnable war based on lies, as traitors and such...
It's the neo-con way! - allenobendorf, on 10/11/2007, -26/+117I have two close friends who were pro-war until they joined the military. Now they realize that their lives are going to be put in danger for no reason. I think the neo-con pundits would change their tune if it was THEIR asses on the line.
- Bodezatpha, on 10/11/2007, -26/+82You're sadly misinformed, and have obliviously bee seduced by the propaganda the current administration has been spouting since this war began. I absolutely support our troops, I have deep respect for their commitment, courage, and dedication to this country. They deserve the gratitude of each and every American. But I do not support any additional death of American soldiers in a war that is not their fight. I wish them all a quick, and safe return to there families and to those who gave their lives, this country owes them everything, for they gave everything. I will keep believing in this country, our values, and our dreams, but I will no longer believe the lies, or accept the corruption.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+66"Money maintains the Republican/Democratic duopoly of trivialized politics."
I want this on a bumper sticker. - fucayama, on 10/11/2007, -7/+59It's not a war it's an occupation.
You can't win an occupation. - thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -18/+59I very much disagree with the war in Iraq, but my friend is in the Army and is about to serve his 2nd term and told me he is more than happy to do it. He actually wants to go back because he said last time he went, children were thanking him and shaking his hand and buying him candy. He told me the media coverage here is all on the bad that is happening there while the good is left out of the media because people radiate towards disaster stories.
A soldier's opinion, not mine. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+45MY NEIGHBOR'S SON JUST DIED IN IRAQ
I see they have removed the Bush/Cheney bumper sticker - Chutch, on 10/11/2007, -19/+54You would be surprised...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+43"Pull US troops out and watch the increase in the death of innocents in Iraq."
Probably. But what you, and others who constantly repeat the obvious, fail to realize is that even if we OCCUPY thier land for 100 years the minute we leave these people are going to start killing each other. They have been doing so for over two thousand years over different versions of Allah and triabal ritual. Hell while we currently occupy their land we watch videos of 17 year old girls being drug into the street and stoned to death in honor killings as their "police force" stands around to make sure it gets done right.
Personally, I'd rather not take sides. If these barbaric ***** don't want to stop killing each other over cultural strife - let 'em. Don't waste out money trying to stop them. - EndersGame, on 10/11/2007, -18/+43thatsmyaibo I hear that all the time, just about anywhere an American soldier goes kids are going to look up to them. They don't know what it really means, its just something new and *superior* to interact with. We aren't in Iraq to give kids something to interact with, basically right now we are in Iraq dedicating the lives of our troops to their civil war. You can argue all you want about whether or not we should have started a war with Iraq, but we won that war a long time ago and we have no business there anymore. Iraq wants us out, the world wants us out, we want us out...the president doesn't give a *****.
- brstilson, on 10/11/2007, -10/+31"Sir, my sincere apologies and condolences about your loss, but your responsibility for your son's life ended when he turned 18 and began his life as an adult. God speed on your journey towards healing."
I'm not disagreeing with this sentiment, but 18 is an extremely arbitrary number to declare someone an adult. We consider 18 the age of adulthood because it's the lowest age you can join the army at. 18-year-olds are typically very naive and can be talked into anything. The army (Just like Kirby Vacuums and Cutco Knives) targets this naivety but also strokes the "respect" nerve. I think most kids join because of the respect and admiration from older adults it will bring them. In any case, very few 18-year-olds have "adult" level of maturity. They're usually fresh out of their parents home and all-too-eager to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+25@cassholio
Your obligation to your son or daughter NEVER ENDS you idiot. You may not be able to make their decisions for them etc, buy you are still very much obligated to protect them if you can.
I fought in Desert Shield/Storm and as a veteran I have the utmost respect for all soldiers that are trying to live a good life. I have a long line of relatives that have fought in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. We are a military family. None of us support this war! I have cousins in Fallujah right now, and I send them soldier kits all the time, and I wish them well all the time, but I want them back yesterday! This Iraq war is complete *****. If you can't see that then you are blind. Oh yeah, I'm a republican "neo-con" as some of you would put it.
Either let our military go and do what they are trained to do, or get them the ***** out of there. Our guys cannot "win" anything when they are taking mortar fire from a residential area and are not being permitted to return fire because it's a "residential area". That's *****, what can they do but take cover and hope they don't take a hit? THAT'S NOT SOLDIERING! That's our administration murdering our children, that's what that is. We voted them in, so we are just as responsible. Now you've voted in the Dems, so they need to make good on their promise to get our guys and gals out of there, or they are just a responsible too...
OUR POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN FAILING US FOR DECADES!
IF REVOLUTION BY PEN WON'T WORK, WHAT THE ***** WILL! - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23Jesus Christ @hdtvdust. I can't digg you down far enough.
- SultanTravi, on 10/11/2007, -14/+30@jcm267
If we had wanted to crush the insurgency through effective escalation, our incompetent political administration missed that boat by a few years. The only option now that makes any sense is to get our people out of there. Not that the war made sense to begin with.
I'm not going to just bash Republicans though. The letter points out very well that our entire political system sucks. Democrats are complicit, at this point, in allowing the war to continue and I wish they had had balls in 2003 to do with Feingold did.
On the article: I can't believe that people actually think that what this guy from Boston says about the war has any effect whatsoever on the insurgency. - daeyeth, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19It's ***** incredible how much I've grown to absolutely despise my own country (government) during the duration of this adminstration. I feel so goddamn powerless...pisses me off....
This is so disgusting. - SultanTravi, on 10/11/2007, -6/+20I don't see this war in terms of liberalism and conservatism. How do the values of either of those ideologies have anything to do with this? I think it's more the perversion of ideology into a black and white, red vs blue, against us or with us mentality that causes the attitude that one cannot be conservative and oppose the Iraq war.
- tidu, on 10/11/2007, -19/+31Wait, I was just pondering something. We elected the Democrats to Congress in 2006 to stop the war. They tried twice to stop a bill, then gave up. This is only a democracy because we THINK it is. We're dead ***** wrong. This is despicable.
- blujay, on 10/11/2007, -16/+27"Hum? Is DIGG too liberal to have a "pro-war" voice?"
too liberal?
maybe they just have more common sense.
maybe diggers are primarily 'too intelligent' to have a pro-war voice - brstilson, on 10/11/2007, -7/+18"He told me the media coverage here is all on the bad that is happening there while the good is left out of the media because people radiate towards disaster stories."
Some could construe this as proof the media is controlled by left-wing extremists, but really they're just treating the Iraq War like any other story here. The media gravitates towards the most sensationalist stories it can find, so a story about the good things about Iraq won't make for good ratings. - bry0000000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14That's flawed logic, sir. By that premise, we would have to remain silent publicly about every foreign policy implemented.
- ChildeRoland420, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11As I remember more Democrat senators voted for the war than against it (29-21), but go ahead and digg me down for spreading the truth.
- ggnictee, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15your son is a hero.
you are courageous.
God bless and keep you both. - Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16"I know that even now, people of good will find much to admire in Bush's response to that awful day."
What, read childrens' literature, and then run into hiding for hours? He probably just wanted to finish that book in peace. - u8myfoood, on 10/11/2007, -13/+22What ever gave the right for Bush to declare an illegal war for such a long period of time, does it not say in The Declaration of Independence, that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed", majority of this country are against this war, yet it continues to persist.
I guess this is what happens when we have a president who cannot even properly chew a pretzel. - Nougat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15@citizen782 (#6914964)
You'd better have a really long bumper. - CanIGetAWitness, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12Wow, just Wow!
Nobody in the admin can have such a painfully truthful insight.
A true American IMO. - francois87, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10so umm.. how much exactly is a GI's life worth? i am genuinely curious
- roosterjm2k2, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13"Teach them that your viewpoints are better."
That's the problem these days. Parents are doing just that. Instead of teaching their children to be open minded and giving the the tools they need to make objective decisions, they just force ideas into their heads. Religion, political party affiliation, hell, even choice in lovers, so much of it is just droned into people heads by their parents that they just never learn to think for themselves.
Then we end up in the situation we're in now...the whole "My team vs Your team" logic as opposed to actual, objective thought. - roosterjm2k2, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17ChildeRoland420,
You obviously have no grasp on figurative speech. - thesauce, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9About tree fitty
- otep, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10
....Much Respect to the Troops and the Families ....... - Smuikas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Azbats, you lose at semi-modern history.
The only reason that Iraq was a secular country was because Saddam was ruling the country with an iron fist of fear. The only reason they weren't killing each other under him was because he was killing them!
He was the dam holding back the river, and we planted bombs along the base.. I'm not saying Saddam was a hero, far from it - he was a goddamn monster. But if you think that they were living "peacefully" because they were over their cultural strife, you are SORELY mistaken. Also keep in mind that Saddam's sect was a minority in Iraq. And that we funded him originally.
Just like we're funding this puppet government. In ten years, it's likely that it will turn on us again - which is why we're setting up permanent bases over there. Cycle repeats... Why can't we just keep out of their business and let 'em duke it out? Cause of the oil... - silverchrysalis, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9you know, hdtv, i've been wanting to block you for a while now.
that was it.
jerk - Logikos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I know a few soldiers who threw a party when Australia announced that we would be joining the fight. Australia has one of the best paid militaries in the world. They don't like peace keeping missions though. They're more dangerous and don't pay as well.
- catfish182, on 10/11/2007, -10/+16What is nice in this day and age is that regardless of our retarded commander and this pointless war there still is support for the troops.
I had asked a friend of mine over this weekend, who is a Vietnam veteran, how he felt about America not supporting the war (or a huge amount of people) but supporting the troops for being willing to defend. He was happy. I also as a veteran feel good about the support. I hate this war with every fiber in me but it is nice to see the troops getting the support they do for the ***** job they undertake.
Just my thoughts - yellowribbon, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8My heart goes out to this family in Boston who lost their beautiful young son. It is noble and right to speak out against this war. It is unimaginable to me that anyone would have one negative thing to say to this family. They have paid the ultimate price for a misguided, poorly planned, badly executed war. We have a son serving as a Combat Engineer in Iraq who is also a wonderful , handsome young Lieutenant. It grieves me to see what some people write , especially ,ignoramuses like buckkiller who can barely put a thought on paper. If young Andrew is going to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, I would like the honor of tending his grave. Incidentally, those of you who think that the war is such a great idea I have two suggestions: 1. Go to Section # 60 of the ANC and watch the grieving families as they sit and talk with their fallen loved ones and 2. Enlist.
- 3tcp, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10It's not liberal vs conservative it's hawk vs dove. There are a lot of conservatives against this war and there are more than a few liberals who don't think we should leave. It's pretty obvious that Clinton would have us in Iraq as long as McCain would.
- sibhod, on 10/11/2007, -9/+14this is the latest talking point from the white house, yes.
in their usual style, it's completely disconnected from reality. i don't see why you'd believe them this time considering their track record with predicting events in iraq. i'm not so sure the presence of foreign invaders will settle age-old sectarian tensions. - Buckiller, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8~$400,000 according to previous posters. (the Life insurance that is)
- ChildeRoland420, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Replicant,
I do believe that there were quite a few people not considered "neo-cons" that voted to send us to war. Did your senator vote for or against? - fast1marine, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8I'm gonna put a simple comment only because if I put a real genuine comment some stupid hippie liberal or some damned crazy conservative will just digg me down. Stop being so black and white it is possible that someone on the other end of the spectrum has a good idea this I hate you because your not a democrat or a republican stuff is stupid.
- cassholio, on 10/11/2007, -20/+25The author talks about his responsibility for his son's death-
Sir, my sincere apologies and condolences about your loss, but your responsibility for your son's life ended when he turned 18 and began his life as an adult. God speed on your journey towards healing. - codye, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You forgot "inside job" and "Ron Paul 2008! wooo".
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Let's not drum up the democracy vs republic argument. Yes, this is a democratic republic, not a pure democracy. It's still fair to call it a democracy, in a general sense, it is, and it is how we refer to it in this country. Quit being such a purist.
- AzBats, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11@roosterjm2k2
"Don't forget that Democrats have the numbers to end this, but it takes them months to even draw up a resolution, months to decide when to try to pass it, and even if it passes, its only a rough legislation with enough wiggle room in the wording to completely ignore it."
Actually no they didn't since the Decider using a veto to kill the bill (not enough numbers to overturn) - a reasonable one at that. One which gave the armed forces and Iraq government plenty of time to plan the withdrawal. But as of now if the Iraq Government votes to kick the US out the US will have to leave asap without a well planned redeployment. - zouhair, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I'm realy sorry for his loss
Bacevitch is a great guy, it's the real patriot not Bush, Bush it's quit the oposite - AzBats, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Publisher: Oxford University Press, USA (March 2, 2005) (from Amazon) - it's been out for so long that even the paperback edition is on sale.
**waiting for public apology** - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Dems and Reps are both to blame. Dems and Reps are both greedy bastards who have no problem using our children as fodder in a war that could have been "won" by our military if they would have let our military do their job. Our military was hobbled from the get go and never had a chance to properly secure strategic points throughout Iraq. Horrible mistakes were made. Mistakes that our military wouldn't have made if politicians would just stay the ***** out of the planning.
The president cannot go to war without the Senate. ***** at least know how our political system runs before spouting off. - Haroshia, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7There was never a vote for war. It was a vote authorizing the use of military force in removing the weapons of mass destruction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Against_Iraq -
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