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- ThsGuyRightHere, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2I understand, hell I halfway disagree with it myself. Personally I hope someone can come up with a better idea.
- martalli, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2I absolutely agree that the God of Abraham would not want such blood shed over Israel, but otherwise I disagree with everything you said.
- martalli, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1This is one way. Honestly, I think the two (or three) "states" involved should merge. Maybe Joyner is right to suggest peace keepers, but this would require two things. First, the two sides' leader would actually want to have peace. I have my doubts that either sides' leaders actually want peace. They have their political power partly or mostly because of security concerns. Secondly, the international community would have to come up with tens of thousands (maybe 100k) soldiers to truly lock down these two countries. Which countries would be involved would be questionable, too. For instance, should we encourage or disallow Muslim nations like Egypt, Jordan, and Pakistan? Should we have Europeans? Should it just be a major force of South Americans?
I think this is just one good way to skin this cat, but unfortunately for a long time, the outside community just does not have the stomach for actually putting boots on the ground in Israel or Palestine. In any case, unless the conflicting parties want peace, this will go nowhere. - xiaojin47, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1Who supplies the peace keepers? No one is objective in this conflict and, despite wearing the UN helmet, those are people on the ground with their own opinions of Israel and Palestine.
I think it's a little naive... - marclindsay, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1I know something needs to be done..... Mark J really has his finger on the pulse and the nouse to actually kick action on.
- kp998, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1A one state multi-national solution is the only way this will ever work. Give Palestinians with land rights their homes back. Stop the free flow of european jews to the region. Give christians a say in government. End zionism as a state right. Israel should be home to all the people that really belong there. Jordan and Egypt should take back those who really belong in their states.
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1So that's an okay plan A. Here's plan B if that fails - We identify two new sites donated by neighboring countries as "New Jerusalem". One is New Jerusalem for Judeo-Christians, and the other is New Jerusalem for Muslims. And we tell everyone they have 6 months to relocate any holy artifiacts, etc. that they want to keep and get the hell out, because Old Jerusalem is about to become New Chernobyl. They can keep fighting if they want, but they'll be fighting over a nuclear wasteland. I guarantee, no God from any religion wanted this much blood shed over any sort of "Holy Land".
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1Atheists. We need an army of atheists.
- djv1120, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1Something needs to happen to make peace here. Maybe this is it!
- pamsmom, on 01/08/2009, -0/+1It seems every other plan under the sun has been tried. Why not give this a shot. What else do we have to lose. Or better yet, look how much more there is to gain!
- burtonimus, on 01/11/2009, -0/+1I am in the military. The Navy to be exact and I think my point of view was changed from this conflict being external or "not in my yard, not my problem". Well it is actually everyone's issue. As you pointed out that it is fear that causes us to take sides and be "one sided" to a situation.
Well, in seeing that "It's ______'s fault. How dare you not recognize that.
Recognizing fault is not important. Establishing peace is.
Saying otherwise only reveals an "agenda other than peace." is very true.
Pointing fingers at someone or when someone disrespects you or threatens you it takes the maturity to look inward as to why this happened. In the Navy this occurs ALL the time from supervisors and subordinates. It takes leadership to turn aggression into friendship. And if it is not friendship that at least it is a peaceful agreement.
Yes, let the UN deal with the aggressors. Let the nations become established, organized and have a recognition and say in UN security matters when the time comes. Your policy will work. But what is required is REAL leadership between both sides to lay down the arms and talk.... not have the US or other countries as peace designers but the will to lead the people to a peaceful resolution. So I say this: somewhere in your plan there needs to be a method of education, installment of desirable values on both parties to breed leaders to face the challenges.
Right now that does not exist. Because all parties are in close proximity with one another. And therefore will continue with the same destructive habits The only way out is to have a desirable goal of peace and let the people grow in that direction, then violence stops and peace or armistice will occur naturally. - calvello, on 01/07/2009, -0/+1Sadly "western" people are ignoring the facts:
-the US provides Israel with billions of $ year, most of which is spent on military equipment. If they did not receive these funds they would be as penniless as the Palestinians.
-the majority of countries in the world do not even recognize the "State of Israel" as it was established on Palestinian owned land, confiscated by the UN under force from the US - how would the US people like the State of Texas suddenly to be declared "Israel" and all Texans forced out? That's what happened to the Palestinians. Many thousands lost their land, their homes.
-the Israelis have no right, nor the jewish settlers there, to be in Gaza - it is Palestinian land and Israel occupied it in 1967.
-Israel continues to enlarge their state, continually confiscating more and more Palestinian land.
It is hardly strange that the Palestinans are reacting as they are?
The solution is so simple - there should be no such thing as the "State of Israel", just as there is no thing as the "State of Baptists" or the "State of Catholics". The people occupying Palestinian land are of the Jewish faith, named the stolen land "Israel" and henceforth called themselves "Israelis". It is all wrong. And it is all supported by the US. At EVERY UN security council meeting when objections to Israel are raised, the US vetos the vote. Every time, for decades of years.
Shame on you, the US. - Humpasaur, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1This was, to my skeptical surprise, a ***** excellent read. He's right.
- blogpublisher, on 01/30/2009, -0/+0Very well said.
- Perich, on 01/07/2009, -0/+0Something needs to happen to make peace here
- abecee, on 01/23/2009, -0/+0 Israel armed forces are a threat and in a stronger position to dictate terms to its border sharing states.Americans and other super power contribution to the state Israel should be such that a balance is maintained to achieve peace in the region. It's a must. Otherwise the mistakes done in the past will again pop up like a master servant attitude. The Zionist are a group of people who have had faced severe hardship during Hitler's time.And That itself is good enough for them to get continued sympathy & support from the western alliance. Where as they don't need anymore of that and stop supporting them to stop the terror tactics and cold blooded murders taking place in Palestinian areas.
There is similar situation in Srilanka for the past 50 years where the Tamils living in North and East of Srilanka are getting murdered by the armed terror unleashed by the Govt of SriLanka. The so called "democratically elected" (Killing opposition members and opposing journalist) this is not understood by other democratically elected Governments is getting support from USA .Japan etc.The Human rights violation is rampant in SriLanka and this is not condemned by USA of it's allied countries.
We can easily see where it has gone wrong all these days. - constructzero, on 01/12/2009, -0/+0Burton, excellent comments.
Read the link in the blog post titled "Unifying Social Dynamics." You're 100% correct and that link explains more about how I think that needs to happen.
Rather than overt education, I believe people learn tolerance through experience and mutual dependence. (while maintaining strong healthy self-reliance)
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