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- Savage24, on 06/29/2009, -12/+66The key words in this story are "freedom and peace" , that's what the people of Honduras want. That is not what the UN, Obama, Clinton,Castro, and Chavez have in mind for the people of Honduras or any other freedom loving country in the world. The people did not break the law, Zelaya did, so the people must be punished. I thought I heard Obama say something about meddling in other countries affairs, oh yes that was some other group wanting freedom too.
- Brumbar, on 06/30/2009, -9/+53Excuse me people but this apparently was not a military coup so much as the Judicial Branch of the Honduran Government ensuring that their Constitution was upheld, as opposed to their Constitution being thrown out by a Leftist President to set himself up for life ala Hugo Chavez. The Honduran Supreme Court had the stones to do the correct thing. Yet our Secretary of State and President side with known despots and quisling Europeans in condemning a people who are defending their own freedom by wresting it from a rising despot. Communists will always show their true color. I suspect that may be why possibly, at least couple of people in this are pissed off about this and scared. Heaven forfend that the massed Sheep should get ideas, better that they watch eulogies to deceased icons instead.
- Landthatilove, on 06/29/2009, -18/+62FTA:
"Hugo Chávez's coalition-building efforts suffered a setback yesterday when the Honduran military sent its president packing for abusing the nation's constitution.
It seems that President Mel Zelaya miscalculated when he tried to emulate the success of his good friend Hugo in reshaping the Honduran Constitution to his liking."
Wow. A government underestimating the resolve of the people when the government abuses the nation's constitution. Imagine that. Oh, and "Fidel Castro and Hillary Clinton object". Well of course they do! - madtechnologist, on 06/29/2009, -12/+48I don't understand why Clinton is condemning this....we should be celebrating the defeat of communist/authoritorian rule. This just shows who the Left likes to cozy up to. Does Clinton favor this style of rule?
- demo79, on 06/30/2009, -6/+41The whole world should know the truth, we the people of Honduras Upholded our laws and constitution:
THE CURRENT SITUATION IN HONDURAS - 10 Bullet Points - PLEASE READ
1. The event this morning should be taken as an arrest against a Honduras citizen, Manuel Zelaya, who broke the constitutional Honduran law in multiple occasions over the last few days.
2. This SHOULD NOT be taken as a Coup d’état.
3. The vast majority of Honduras firmly opposes Manuel Zelaya and are in favor of his arrest.
4. The current news being portrayed in international networks appear to be heavily tilted toward a contrarian view of most Hondurans.
5. The majority of Honduras are not in favor of Manual Zelaya and are extremely proud of our congress and military for their stance in favor of democracy and peace.
6. The events happening today were caused by an attempt by Manuel Zelaya to manipulate our country and its constitution to fulfill his ultimate goal of remaining in power indefinitely.
7. The world should be proud of Honduras as we are the first Latin-American country to stand against a tyrannical leader who has tried to topple democracy and peace in our country.
8. Declarations made by Hugo Chavez should be discredited immediately. He should, as President Obama said, allow Hondurans to solve this issue through open communication following LEGAL processes.
9. It is not only in the interest of Honduras and its citizens that democracy prevails (supported by the events today and Manuel Zelaya’s arrest) but also in the interest of the UNITED STATES that no other countries align with Hugo Chavez (and his puppets) to build his empire against democracy and peace.
10. In case Hugo Chavez tries to use military force in Honduras, we hope and pray we can count on the United States to stand along side Honduras against the fight against tyranny and oppression. - mute23, on 06/30/2009, -6/+37They found 60 million lempiras (about 3 million dollars) in cash at the presidential office today... I wonder what that was for. This wasn't going to be a referendum, it was going to be the buying of people's conscience.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -6/+37Not a coup, the armed forces were fulfilling their constitutional duties.
- avengingturnip, on 06/29/2009, -11/+41The thought of the military upholding its constitution probably causes Hillary some sleepless nights.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -9/+32One question springs immediately to mind. What the hell are you talking about?
- Barackalypse, on 06/30/2009, -7/+30Its nice that at least one country in this hemisphere is still setting an example as to how to follow a Constitution, I'm just sad it isn't the USA.
- CCoburn3, on 06/29/2009, -19/+42Castro, Chavez & the Obama Administration -- birds of a feather.
- superkendall, on 06/30/2009, -8/+29Here's a mental exercise for those calling this a coup.
Many of you are in solidarity with the people of Iran. Why? Because they are fighting to have a vote they placed actually be counted correctly.
Well what do you think would have happened if the former president of Honduras were allowed to go forth with his "referendum". The ballots were all sent over by Venezuela. After they ejected him they found huge piles of cash in his office, on the eve of the vote... just how real do you think that vote would have been? Why is it so wrong for the courts and the people of Honduras to get rid of someone *about* to hold a crooked vote that keeps him in power forever strictly against the constitution?
If you are with the people of Iran, you cannot then ignore the very legal actions of Hondurans eager to prevent the same catastrophe there.
The whole reason the Honduras constitution was written to only ever allow single terms was to prevent exactly this kind of power grab. The whole reason it states anyone who tries to seek more than one term is no longer a citizen of Honduras is that the writers knew someone trying to stay in power would be no friend of the people. - inactive, on 06/30/2009, -6/+27Roaks, I have to assume that you're an idiot. The "you hate freedom" argument has long been reserved for the intellectually challenged. But, seriously, what Do Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Honduras have in common? The answer of course, is not a whole hell of a lot. 3 of the 4 are middle eastern Muslim nations, one is a central American catholic nation. So I ask again what the hell kind of a point are you idiots trying to make here?
- IVillageIdiot, on 06/30/2009, -4/+25It WAS for buying off poll watchers... and stuffing prefabricated votes sent to him by Hugo....
- nomarxist, on 06/29/2009, -9/+29Along with Obama and Congress!
- theaceoface, on 06/30/2009, -4/+23Finally! I was waiting for someone to say what that article said... Its surprising how the media keeps forgetting to mention that this coup was in fact ordered by the supreme court
- meridian, on 06/29/2009, -3/+20Free Honduras!
- rjan, on 06/30/2009, -6/+23We, the Honduran people are doing what any other country should do in case of a threat to its sovereignty and its Constitution. Zelaya was a menace to our democracy and needed to be removed. This is not a Coup d'etat in any way as our new goverment is civilian and based on our LAW, our CONSTITUTION. Roberto Micheletti (our new president) is the only president that WE THE PEOPLE recognize. This PAID minority who are vandalizing and looting our country are not representing us in any way, we only want PEACE and DEMOCRACY. Please, those who think this is a coup, read the article, get the facts straight and see who is the one breaking the law and violating our democracy.
- Barackalypse, on 06/30/2009, -5/+22Leave it to the left to incorrectly blame the right for something because they didn't bother to get the facts straight. Can we cut the polarizing rhetoric already?
- IVillageIdiot, on 06/30/2009, -9/+26Except... It's not a "coup". The military there was actually acting under the orders of the court and of the legislature.
Leave to the Leftist to ignore reality and any law that gets in their way.... - demo79, on 06/30/2009, -2/+18The whole world should know the truth, we the people of Honduras Upholded our laws and constitution:
THE CURRENT SITUATION IN HONDURAS - 10 Bullet Points - PLEASE READ
1. The event this morning should be taken as an arrest against a Honduras citizen, Manuel Zelaya, who broke the constitutional Honduran law in multiple occasions over the last few days.
2. This SHOULD NOT be taken as a Coup d’état.
3. The vast majority of Honduras firmly opposes Manuel Zelaya and are in favor of his arrest.
4. The current news being portrayed in international networks appear to be heavily tilted toward a contrarian view of most Hondurans.
5. The majority of Honduras are not in favor of Manual Zelaya and are extremely proud of our congress and military for their stance in favor of democracy and peace.
6. The events happening today were caused by an attempt by Manuel Zelaya to manipulate our country and its constitution to fulfill his ultimate goal of remaining in power indefinitely.
7. The world should be proud of Honduras as we are the first Latin-American country to stand against a tyrannical leader who has tried to topple democracy and peace in our country.
8. Declarations made by Hugo Chavez should be discredited immediately. He should, as President Obama said, allow Hondurans to solve this issue through open communication following LEGAL processes.
9. It is not only in the interest of Honduras and its citizens that democracy prevails (supported by the events today and Manuel Zelaya’s arrest) but also in the interest of the UNITED STATES that no other countries align with Hugo Chavez (and his puppets) to build his empire against democracy and peace.
10. In case Hugo Chavez tries to use military force in Honduras, we hope and pray we can count on the United States to stand along side Honduras against the fight against tyranny and oppression. - superkendall, on 06/30/2009, -4/+19I'll bet 80% of people posting to Digg would have supported that. Hell, quite a few still call for him to be arrested now.
Let's put forth a scenario. Let's say a U.S. president (any one, pick your least favorite) had mandated Diebold system in all voting everywhere, and then called for a sudden vote to decide if we should even have another presidential election.
Well why shouldn't that president be removed from office, if the court system said what he was doing was illegal? - DaDrake, on 06/30/2009, -4/+18Yea I don't get what the ***** he is talking about either.
- bennny, on 06/30/2009, -8/+22Why dont you read up on what happened.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -4/+18But seriously,
wtf is he talking about? - geekee, on 06/30/2009, -7/+20http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090628/ap_on_re_la_am ...
Here's an AP article corraborating the WSJ article
Clinton is an idiot. Obama is fence-sitting once again. - Doc123, on 06/30/2009, -7/+20You gringos know nothing about the disgusting dictator Zelaya.
- cvlad, on 06/30/2009, -5/+18No, it's not a coup, at least not a military coup. A coup is an illegal seizure of power - the military acting on behest of the supreme court AND the congress is anything but illegal.
Now the President trying to elevate himself to dictator and subverting the Constitution is a coup. If Bush, Obama, or any American President presumed that they were above the Constitution and attempted to supplant the very document they've sworn an oath to protect, then I pray and hope that our military steps in to defend us from such tyranny, as is their mandate. - LaGringaLaCeiba, on 06/30/2009, -3/+16The reason that so many of the commenters agree is because we live here and know what happened and what led up to it. Don't believe all the Venezuelan lies that they put out and then somehow the media regurgitates it without any verification.
- cvlad, on 06/30/2009, -2/+14I define "military coup" as the sudden and *illegal* seizure of power by the military. When the Courts and Congress orders the military to arrest the President, who is subverting the Constitution, and then orders elections...it's not a military coup.
Seriously, go read the ***** definition of coup, then read the ***** article. Try to put two and two together. You can't be like OMFG MILITARY COUP when both Congress and the SC is telling the military to arrest the President. - rschenkel, on 06/30/2009, -0/+12Let it be know that we the people of Honduras do want Zelaya back. He violated our laws, insulted our Constitution, what's to stay in power to spread Hugo Chavez's empire to the world, and while doing so, used the country's poor people hunger to support his plans.
Do not let the world take this victory away from us. This victory against Chavez's empire, against evil dictatorships and 20th century socialism. We fought hard for it. - Landthatilove, on 06/29/2009, -4/+16War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
-John Stuart Mill - methdwman3, on 06/30/2009, -1/+13I find it a bit disturbing that the Administration was quick to condemn this action, but slow to jump on the side of the Iranians because of a fear of "meddling".
- demo79, on 06/30/2009, -1/+12There is not any procedure to impeach a president on Honduran Constitution there is only law and crimes Zelaya commited against Honduras Constitution,
but this is not UK or US, if he comes back to Honduras he will be charged with treason , abuse of power, etc,etc. - geekee, on 06/30/2009, -2/+13"Remember, Bush also violated your constitution"
Not according to the supreme court, or any legal authority, for that matter. - superkendall, on 06/30/2009, -1/+11They followed the laws of their own constitution. According to those laws anyone (not just the president) seeking to extend the term of a president beyond what was set forth in the constitution was no longer a citizen and could not hold office.
What's wrong with obeying the constitution they have written? Why should they follow any other, you seem to want them to follow the U.S. version. But they are not the U.S. - IVillageIdiot, on 06/30/2009, -8/+18So... the next question:
If the USGVT, currently under the boot of a Leftist symp, orders the US military to restore a Leftist dictatorship in violation of BOTH Constitutions, what are WE going to do about it???
1) Punt?
2) Send more tax money to help the Lefties usurp the liberties of yet another innocent people?
3) Do something about OUR OWN government?
Methinks, we need to start calling up the radio stations tomorrow and threaten a General Strike, nation wide if the Jackboots dare to intervene militarily in Honduran civil matters.
If ONE serviceman is killed or injured due to this Leftist prick and queen Hilary, we have fertile grounds for impeachment!
WE MUST RATTLE THE SABER… and quickly…. - demo79, on 06/30/2009, -5/+15This wasnt a coup it was and arrest by order of the supreme court, the new government is civilian not military, the ex president was exhiled, because military wanted to prevent a slaughter between his small group of supporters, if venezuela had exile Chavez 10 years ago like Honduras did here, we wouldnt be in this mess.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -2/+12Can anyone explain to me why Obama and Clinton are siding with Chavez and Castro in calling for the reinstating of the communistic dictatorial tyrant President? The guy was abusing the Honduran constitution and the nation's people decided they would no longer stand for it.
Blah blah blah "the coup is illegal" WHEN IS A COUP EVER LEGAL? - nomarxist, on 06/29/2009, -10/+20Hmmmm, one must wonder if the reshaping the constitution thing might have influenced Hillary and Obama!
- superkendall, on 06/30/2009, -6/+16Leave it up to the Left to call a legal action a coup, and to step on the throats of free people.
Did you also beat up some Iranians today for fun? Or do you act to crush dissent one culture at a time? - andyd273, on 06/30/2009, -1/+10Lets just say, what if just before the last elections Bush had tried to make a law saying that he was president for life, explicitly against the constitution and our nations laws.
Our constitution says that if the government stops serving the people, then the people can and should remove the guilty parties and put new leaders in place that will uphold the law.
The US administration probably doesn't want to support this because it might give us ideas.
Our constitution also allows for overthrowing the government if they are violating the law. This sets a "bad" precedent because the people in charge don't like the idea that we might object to some illegal action of theirs and put them out on their ear.
Thats what is happening in Honduras, and I'm cheering them on. - JimmyTheClam, on 06/30/2009, -7/+16"So what made you think that Zelaya is communist or authoritarian?"
Let's see... Castro and Chavez support him, and he disregarded the Honduran constitution and tried to unlawfully seize power like Chavez did in Venezuela.
Besides, have you EVER seen a communistic government that was NOT authoritarian? - Barackalypse, on 06/30/2009, -4/+13It isn't a military coup when the military follows the orders of the Supreme Court and the Congress elects an interim leader:
"The Honduran Congress met in emergency session yesterday and designated its president as the interim executive as stipulated in Honduran law." - alternet09, on 06/29/2009, -11/+20Hussein, HRC and Hugo. Strange bedfellows!
- ROaks, on 06/30/2009, -4/+13Most assuredly.
- JimmyTheClam, on 06/30/2009, -4/+13That's what the Honduran military is trying to do, with the support of their own congress and supreme court.
- tecnovm65, on 06/30/2009, -4/+13and I hate the fact that Chávez is in the middle of that trouble, but we venezuelans have much more problems ourselves, where is our president from? that's why I hate dictators... god damn.
- superkendall, on 06/30/2009, -6/+14Because he tried to override the term limits to install himself as endless ruler?
- cvlad, on 06/30/2009, -1/+9Uh, because the President overthrowing the Constitution is neither democracy or freedom? Did you actually read the article?
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