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Hoisting the Mexican flag at a US post office

michellemalkin.com — Notes from a demonstration in so cal.

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  • jackman0654, on 10/12/2007, -36/+117Evey Federal dollar should be with held from the city of Maywood. also there should be an investigation to see if federal law was violated. Then an Army of Federal law enforcement should be sent in to remove those that are in the town illegally.
    • jackman0654, on 10/12/2007, -36/+106The illegal aliens and there supporters are doing great harm to there ambitions of turning the United States into another crap hole like Mexico. The American people are starting to wise up. Politicians had better wake up and realize this will be a bigger issue in the coming elections than Iraq or anything else. The Republic is in danger from an illegal invasion and they had better apply the brakes.
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -32/+92Remove the flags and BURN them. That's what happened to our American flags in Texas last spring. Someone needs to teach these ungrateful parasites a lesson.
    • viclopez, on 10/12/2007, -22/+92As a hispanic myself, i agree with you. My problem is not with the hardworking legal mexican immigrants. My beef is with the illegal mexicans who have no respect for the law ( coming here illegally). What they did was wrong. I say give that town to mexico, and cut all ties from the us. If they people from there try an enter the US, just shoot em. Even if they are white.
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -23/+93They have no interest in integration (learning the language, adopting our customs, disposing of soiled toilet paper in the toilet, etc).

      I don't know about you, but if I move to Costa Rica I'm going to damn sure learn the language first thing (after I score one of those babes, that is). The last thing I'm going to do is desecrate their flag.
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -45/+29Oops...didn't mean for that to sound like I was going to do a bunch of things first and then desecrate their flag. I wouldn't burn a flag at all....except for an Iranian, Syrian, or Venezuelan flag of course.
    • ASHole71, on 10/12/2007, -12/+32The protesters put the Mexican flag up after the post office closed and took down the American flag.
    • blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -32/+21After watching that video it looks like a non-event to me.
    • Bakkhai42, on 10/12/2007, -52/+15All you guys sound like raving lunatics... And if they put up the flag to draw you out - it worked. Just listen to yourselves. All I hear is ethno-centrism disguised as a legal issue...
    • blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -32/+15Meh, I'd burn a flag simply because the government can't stop me.
    • jedi55555, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37Really, you are telling our Hispanic poster above that he is ethno-centric? The fact of the matter is that there are people in this country illegally and not just hispanics. These people should either become official citizens or they should be made to leave.
    • mattmcf100, on 10/12/2007, -33/+3BeaN3rS SUCK!!!
    • jeremy66158, on 10/12/2007, -37/+8Before you digg my comment in to the ground think about this: The US has no more legitimacy than any of the other nations of the world that were founded to make wealthy people more wealthy. All you idiots who fight over and "for" "your" nation are pathetic creatures who deserve the death you get fighting for "your" country while rich assholes laugh at you eating up all their patriotism.
    • Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -30/+8Mexicans didn't make mexico a craphole. Mexico used to be a largely agrarian society (exactly like the American South). What then happened was AMERICAN companies (GM, etc) moved their factories to mexico, where because it was an agrarian society and people lived off of the land mostly, they could be able to pay them less than American workers in the north who were mostly industrialized. Then, many Mexican workers went to factories to work, and because families started depending on that income as more factories came to mexico and more cities popped up and it became more industrialized, they required higher pay, which of course, makes the factories leave to find a place with cheaper labor. Perhaps another community in Mexico, or maybe another country all together. Point is, the people no longer have their farms and no longer have a job, so you have cities full of people with no work. Beyond that, after NAFTA, large American farm companies bought up Mexican land to build large farms on, taking more Mexican's jobs, forcing some of them to go to places like Mexico city (there's a reason it's the most densely populated city in the western hemisphere), where there is also not enough work and it becomes overpopulated. More industrious and ambitious Mexicans come to the United States to try and make a living, either legally, or illegally.

      Now, if you take all of those problems with labor in Mexico, and add in corrupt politicians, then you get a bonafide ***** hole. It's a lot like the American south, and some of the extrame poverty in some southern areas because of the same sort of thing. Mexico isn't a ***** because of the people living there, it's a ***** because they were exploited, and still are.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -27/+8glad this is coming from such a non biased source..
      and remember this isnt the fringe,
      they all want to make america into on big tequila factory.

      LOL and immagration bigger than Iraq? You wish.
      maybe if we bring home the troops you can say that, but somehow i think that people getting blown appart is more important than a flag on a postoffice after it has closed.
      Uber nationalism will never work in this country.

      i dont support illegals, but i support youir hate speech even less.
    • Horseshoe, on 10/12/2007, -13/+13In Miami, we have the Cuban flag "EVERYWHERE"...

      Also, for Cubans to become legal citizens, they simply have to touch dry land in america... no questions asked.

      everyone else from other countries... are screwed if they want to come to the USA. So if you come over here folks, just say you are cuban... and you will get a free pass.

      Compare that to Haiti, and African nations where people are murdered daily compared to Castro's Cuba, and you know the USA is biased.

    • jeremy66158, on 10/12/2007, -25/+12I didn't know the ratio to nationalists to non nationalists on Digg. Is this the place for the new US national front? Who gives a rats ass that some idiot put up a Mexican flag. It sounds like that is an offense punishable by immediate execution according to you diggers here.
    • RegisteredUser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Wow. This incident is a lot worse than that billboard from a local Spanish language TV station. It really stirred up some controversy here in Los Angeles.

      http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002230.htm

      I think after a couple weeks, the station had those billboards taken down or the "Los Angeles, Mexico" part was covered over.
    • c1nn46, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5why are all these extreme vituperative comments being modded up so much? i dont like the idea of illegal immigration either but healthy debate is better than "lets shoot them and build a wall" wtf happened here
    • Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3The rednecks who made the comments, made them during the day, while productive citizens are working. This is why they're bitter about immigration, they think the Mexicans took their jobs. That, or their pizza delivery jobs don't start until later in the evening. In any case, this story will be far enough down the page by the time enough educated people get home from work that they wont read it anyway.
  • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -40/+71When are we going to do something about this, taking down the flag and replacing with that of another nation at a federal facility is not peaceful demonstration, its an act of war and since these wetbacks are presumably here illegally they have already declared war against our legal system. Round em up, throw em out, man the borders with armed humvees, come across and get shot. End of problem.
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -20/+45I say we get all of our prisoners to build a wall.....today
    • candiru, on 10/12/2007, -18/+64Quit with the name calling, just express your ideas and opinions but don't fall into the guise of hate with terms like "wetbacks".
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -23/+26On top of that, I think that all of the illegal aliens should contribute in building the wall (sort of community service for their transgression).
    • allatti2d, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19"Wetback" was a term for illegal aliens from Mexico living in the U.S. back in the 50s. President DDE used the term as a description of these people; it didn't become a put-down until later (what do they say, "Perception is reality" -- these words are hurtful when you let them be hurtful? Was the intention to be hurtful or descriptive? Of course, I get all worked up over the word "Ragheads" so maybe I shouldn't be preaching about Wetbacks.).

      I'm very passionate about this issue, as well as very torn, but it seems so simple to me. More later when my emotional rush subsides.
    • halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6@Viper2

      While the ideas you expressed were valid, the manner in which you expressed them is not ideal. By resorting to a racial slur, you alienated people who would otherwise agree with you. As a result your main message is lost to many as a result of a single word.

      Your original post would have been more powerful and more likely to win people to your side if written like this:

      "When are we going to do something about this, taking down the flag and replacing with that of another nation at a federal facility is not peaceful demonstration, its an act of war and since these people are presumably here illegally they have already declared war against our legal system. Round em up, throw em out, man the borders with armed guards, come across and get shot."

      Notice the slight change. There are environmentalists who would otherwise support your proposition, but would balk at the reference to Humvees. By removing the racial slur, you have a paragraph that many legal immigrants would support.

      The "End of Problem" line was harsh and arrogant. Removing it softens the presentation without softening the point. The act of claiming your proposition would solve the problem in and of itself comes across as a challenge. By removing that challenge, you make people more likely to listen to you. You come across as more thoughtful and intelligent, as opposed to coming across as an opinionated jackass.

      Accomplishing something in American Politics is not about shouting down the opposition. All that does is polarize debate. Building a consensus on the other hand will radically increase the chances of accomplishing that which you want to accomplish.

      Using racial slurs polarizes all Latinos against you. If, however, you can pit the US Citizens and legal immigrants against the illegal immigrants, you've suddenly gained a large number of supporters, while marginalizing the people who are causing the problems.

      You may not think much of the people whose support these changes would garner, but in politics, it's always better to have more supporters than fewer.
    • Phearce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Sec 3 (g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

      Sec4 (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

      Federal Flag code: http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/flagcode.html
    • captaineuphoria, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9Building a wall would solve absolutely nothing. One could easily build a catapult.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -16/+7guise of hate with terms like "wetbacks".
      they cant help it, the neos are the party of hate.
      they love to come up with terms to call people.
      wetbacks, ragheads, moonbats, Macaca

      I really hope that one day these people realise it is better to fight with ideas, than smears but i highly doubt it.
    • B111, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5I love how someone using the racial term wetback gets their comment dugg up.

      Yeah, when you use racial epithets, it really shows that this is issue is not only about illegal immigration and but also about race.
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12The term, 'wetbacks' only refers to illegal immigrants. It's NOT a racist term. If you don't want to be called a wetback, then enter the country legally. Otherwise, to hell with you.
    • BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@captaineuphoria said, "Building a wall would solve absolutely nothing. One could easily build a catapult."

      We could have a catapult on our side of the wall too. That way, we can lob 'em right back. Or we could have rednecks with shotguns (sort of like shooting skeet).

      I have to say that this exchange of ideas on digg.com is very productive. We just need to get these ideas in the hands of our legislators.
  • arliet51, on 10/12/2007, -13/+50It is becomming prevalant throughout our country! It is discusting and it is not that hard to stop. I left CA over 20 years ago for reasons that were not exclusive to, but largely because of illegals who were pouring into the state. I now live in NC and 20 plus years later I see the same thing happening here. I recently did a subcontracting job in a local body shop who has about 18 employees, half of which were illegals. I would like nothing more than to get them deported but,..... who you gonna call? It really ***** me off!!!!!!
    • Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27https://tips.fbi.gov/

      You can report them here...
    • stylerm, on 10/12/2007, -23/+10It is pretty naive to assume that a Hispanic is illegal. When did your family arrive in the US?

      If you want to drive up crime, then by all means get large groups of people supporting families fired.
    • TheKingInYellow, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6stylerm: shut up.
    • Jaybob404, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6it's pretty easy to spot which co-workers get paid half as much as you.
  • jackman0654, on 10/12/2007, -17/+41Until the republican politicians are forced to understand the American people are serious about this issue nothing will be done. You can forget the democrats doing anything ever. If a Republican president is not elected in 2008 that understands the danger from this illegal invasion we might as well just turn the whole country over to Mexico and let them do for the United States what they have done for the crap hole called Mexico.
    • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Tancredo?
      http://www.denverpost.com/andrews/ci_4220118
    • Illustrious, on 10/12/2007, -28/+9That's why I'm parking a protest vote with the Libertarians next time around. If any one party knows it can always rely on your vote (because they've successfully caused you to loathe the other side THAT much, for instance) that party no longer has to listen to you.
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38This isn't an issue of political parties. Reagan messed up by granting them amnesty, Bush Sr. and Clinton did nothing to stop the problem allowing another 12 million to enter this country.
    • Patented, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30@ Illustrious

      You DO understand that the Libertarian policy towards immigration is completely opposite from the reason why you are voting for them?

      The Libertarian view on immigration is very liberal, allowing anyone, at any time, to cross over.
    • mraty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32@Illustrious

      I'm pro-Libertarian, but you do realize they stand for an open border, right?

      http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration.shtml
    • DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24"That's why I'm parking a protest vote with the Libertarians next time around."

      You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - Inigo Montoya

      From LP.org:

      "We condemn the xenophobic immigrant bashing that would build a wall around the United States. At the same time, we recognize that the right to enter the United States does not include the right to economic entitlements such as welfare. The freedom to immigrate is a freedom of opportunity, not a guarantee of a handout.

      A policy of open immigration will advance the economic well-being of all Americans. All major recent studies of immigrants indicate that they have a high labor force participation, are entrepreneurial, and tend to have specialized skills that allow them to enter under-served markets. Although it is a common misconception that immigrants "take jobs away from native-born Americans," this does not appear to be true. In 1989, the U.S. Department of Labor reviewed nearly 100 studies on the relationship between immigration and unemployment and concluded that "neither U.S. workers nor most minority workers appear adversely affected by immigration."
    • Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -18/+12Many americans AREN'T serious about this issue. It's another ***** distraction from the REAL issues. I couldn't give two ***** about immigration policy. What I do care about is my money, crime, my freedom, and not living in a polluted hellhole. Abortion, immigration, child porn, terror... I couldn't care less about any of these "hot button" issues. They're distractions. I would love to see nothing more than politicians doing absolutely nothing about immigration.
    • allatti2d, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5jackman0654 --

      I disagree. There are plenty of democrats who see this as a problem. I myself consider the two main political parties to be cults who don't care about what's good for the country, but only care about what's good for their party. I disaffiliated myself with the dem. party several years ago because of this. I consider myself to be a fairly liberal person, but I see this alien invasion as a direct threat to our country. How do you think terrorists get in and stay in so easily? How do you think criminals keep coming back over the border? Easy, nonexistent borders. We have enough of our own domestic terrorists and domestic criminals -- we don't need more from other countries too!

      Oops, starting to rant too soon... must wait until I calm down... sorry.

      But my point again, I trust the next president -- whatever his cult affiliation -- will see this is a major issue to be dealt with. Vote republican? Not me! The one we have now has really ***** us up, and bends over for the Presidente of Mexico any time he's commanded to. That has made the alien situation worse, not better.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4crap hole called mexico..
      and I gues the NAFT agrement had zero to do with that.. amazing how much illegal immagation has increased since it was passed.
      AND FYI it was the conservative God (Ronald Reagan) that first gave illegals amesty.. of course that had the boarders flood with peoiple trying to get in before the amesty window closed.
      And since it is such a huge issue and with republicans in control of all branches of government?, how come you really think they are going to do anything about it? IF they were the time is now.

      I am not for illegals, but this is more hate than war. This is more spin than reality. This is more a gamechanger than an issue.
    • Illustrious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@patented, others
      Yes, I'm aware. But consider:
      1. No way in hell the Libertarians will actually win, and
      2. Other than immigration, I'm actually on board with most of their platform (ever read the whole thing? It's good stuff.)

      I'm just trying to get the GOP to start listening to me and those who think as I do. Unfortunately they're more enamored of the religious right, so those of us who actually have brains get the shaft.

      In search of a new political home...
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ allatti2d

      Most democratic politicians don't see it as a problem because they see Mexicans as a large voting block. The funny part is Karl Rove and GWB think the Mexicans will be the new "Southern Strategy" for the Republicans. They think if they can maintain the percentage of the white vote they have, and raise their percentage of the Mexican vote by about 13% that they will never lose another national election. Of course, if they captured just 3% more of the white male vote, it would be the same thing.

      So both parties have political reasons for allowing illegal immigration, that is why it continues even though 80% of the people don't want it. The people realize that not only are illegal aliens from Mexico coming in, but any terrorists can get in, agents from any foreign power, hostile or friendly, etc. The politicians don't care, because political power is more important. Just as you mentioned, the parties are like cults, and political power means more to them than what is good for America.

      Voting Republican wouldn't be that bad if the party wasn't hijacked by the neocons. Views like Pat Buchanan's are closer to Reagan's then GWB's. Tom Tancredo might run, which could be a saving grace.

      I really don't see anyone on the democratic side that will stop the illegal invasion, it favors them politically way too much. Really, I don't care what 'cult' the next president is from. I'd simply like the following from him/her.

      1. Stop policiing the world, or trying to play up the New World Order Card. Iraq 1 and 2, Bosnia, etc were all unneeded wars. Iraq 1 led straight to 9/11, and what was our reason for being there? Because we thought it was our job to police the world?

      2. If you must fight wars, fight them with all your might. If someone brings our country death, you should not try to bring them democracy in return.

      3. Put a wall/fence up, and stop illegal immigration. We can not have unlimited social benefits with unlimited immigration. We don't want to stop immigration, but we do want to keep track of who and how many people are coming in.

      4. Put our citizens first, our country is not just an economy.

      5. Practice Fair trade, not free trade. Allowing China to dump their products here and taking 25% of her exports while she takes less than 1% of ours is not at all fair.

      I won't get this out of either cult. Ok, I'm done ranting.
  • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -10/+49Problems systemic man, its the same here in Boston all you see are illegals mowing lawns and washing cars etc.. I berate no man for working to support himself/family but theres also a legit way to go about it, My Grandparents came here and landed at Ellis Island, guess what, they had to do things the LEGAL way to become American Citizens.
    Including learning to speak ENGLISH.
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -12/+53All this "we need to learn Spanish" to accommodate them is the most RACIST thing I've ever heard. Germans, Italians, Polacks, French, Irish, the list goes on. We all had to learn English and we need it in one generation through immersion. We those from Mexico say immersion doesn't work, are they saying that Mexicans have inferior intelligence or is there something else up their sleeves?
    • FyreGoddess, on 10/12/2007, -30/+16I know I'll get dugg down for this one, but LEGALLY you don't have to learn English in order to become a citizen.
    • Captbob007, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30My barber came here from Italy, and feels very strongly that all immigrants should learn English. He always tells me (in his great italian accent): "When I get-a here, I have-a two choices. Learn English, or get back on-a the boat."
    • lord2800, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26"...LEGALLY you don't have to learn English in order to become a citizen."

      Yes you do. Go have another look at the immigration laws. There are very few exceptions to those who have to learn English to become naturalized citizens.
    • SuperGhost, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21The reason you get Spanish speaking call centers is quite simple, marketing. You should be going after the businesses that support multilingual call centers. To them it's profit. It burns me up when the first thing I hear is "Press 1 for Spanish." When my family immigrated here they learned the language, paid taxes, learned this country's history and became citizens.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2There is a reason this country has no official language.
      And it is what makes this country great. AMerica doesnt belong to the white europeans, america doesnt belong to the english speaking people, america doesnt belong to the christains, america doesnt belong to anyone but the people.
      ANd if you want to be successful in this country you will learn english, but you dont have to.
    • HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"...LEGALLY you don't have to learn English in order to become a citizen."

      Son, you should do some reading. Here's the rulebook. Look on pages 25 & 26 for what is says about knowing English.
      http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/English.pdf
  • wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -48/+11Big deal, Apple hoisted the Jolly Rodger skull and cross bones flag at their offices didnt they. If you go down many streets, you see many non US flags im sure.

    Big deal, a flag is an artificial deity. If you get worked up all over that, seek help. You need to take up a hobby.

    If I go to Northern Ireland I see a variety of flags, French, Irish, British, and other stupid ones like the Royal standard and paramilitary flags, alot of the people that fly them and complain dont even know what the flag means and what conditions to fly them etc. I dont get all worked up over it, because there is much more important things in life to worry about than that.

    Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
    • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -11/+45Apple "Hoisted" the jolly roger on thier own property, theres a big difference between thier "own" property and FEDERAL property, when you moonbats can get that through your thick but albeit hollow heads we will have a start, until then just be glad your being represented by people who will fight for this Nation.
    • wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -38/+8Big deal, its a "My flag (deity) is better than your flag (deity)" ***** contest.

    • Apollo10, on 10/12/2007, -17/+28Viper, you don't get it, the peace freaks hate the American flag and the country it represents. That is why you will never see an American flag at "anti war" protests.
    • ASHole71, on 10/12/2007, -20/+16You look at flags as if they are Deity's? There is something wrong with you
    • mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Its pride and culture. You probably havent heard of it.
    • Phearce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27No, it's a very serious issue to hoist the flag of a sovereign nation outside of that nation. This is not a simple "team pride" issue as you seem to be indicating in your diety comment above. Many would argue that it is an act of war.

      The kicker is the American flag hanging LOWER on the mast than the Mexican flag. Disrepect doesn't get much clearer than that. For extra added insult, the American flag is only to be flown upside down as an indication of extreme emergency, i.e. like in an invasion.
    • pepsiguy94, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14do you value anything wibblewibble? Because if would love to ***** all over it. If you hold no respect for anything then maybe you are the one that needs to seek counseling.
    • gandhii, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3@ Apollo10

      Ironically.. I seem to remember seeing american flags at all of the "anti-war" protests that I have seen. I think in those people's view their inspiration is a patriotic one. Not saying I agree with either side, just that in my experience your statement is false.
    • Apollo10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ghandi, find a picture on the internet of an anti war protest with an American flag - you won't be able to find one. And I mean a real American flag, not one of those ones with a peace sign on it. The peace freaks are more apt to burn the flag then anything.
  • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27"The pacifist is as surely a triator to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer"

    Kind of applies to those with your mindset.
  • pubscout, on 10/12/2007, -20/+9Why worry about illegal immigration? The American Indians didn't, and what harm did it do them?
    • wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -22/+5who was the immigrant then?

      So now its the old immigrants calling the new immigrants names?


      Pot, meet the kettle. Next time I hear an American person claim to be Irish, im going to ***** strangle them, they are fakes.
    • bonked, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Way to completely miss the point (as in he called the kettle white to use your cliche')
  • Jcon, on 10/12/2007, -10/+35No , the flag is not a deity, it is the approved banner representing the United Sates, flown on property belonging to said goverment, and is not just a whim. There is a huge difference between deity and official symbols. This would be the same if I walked up to your hose and began to paint it bright yellow because I like that color, then proceed to park broken down cars in your front yard, followed by garbage strewn across your lawn. Why should you complain? After all, it is just a house and yard, yours is no better than any other. Maybe I will let myself in, eat all the food and tear the furniture apart. After all, there is lots of furniture out there, yours, mine what does it matter who does what with it. It really does not matter, does it?
  • Jcon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39Wibble, there is a huge difference in coming to this country, assimilating to the culture, and adding your own ethnic flavor to the mix, to demanding special concessions and requirements due to the fact you do not speak English. Learn, fit in, and add your uniqueness to the "Melting Pot" But attempting to insulate yourself, while demanding special treatment, is against the whole idea of what the US is. Do you think our Attorney General would be in his position if he demanded that the White House only speak Spanish? That any cases he handled could not be in English because it is his second language? It is fine to love your mother country, but you leave it for a reason. Adapt to where you are, do not try and change your new nation to what you want. IF they want a Spanish speaking nation, then return to there homeland, and try and improve the situation there. If you wish to stay here legally, welcome, learn our language, and get to work. We need to pull together.
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Demanding that we embrace your culture because you don't want to assimulate into the "Melting Pot" that is America is RACISM. It amazes me how anytime someone wants the law (which many countries have variations on) to be enforced, then we are labelled racists.
  • antoniojvr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48As a Hispanic, this makes me really sad. The Latinos there are claiming racism, while they are the only ones there being racist with signs calling white people KKK members. My family works really hard. And it's sad to see that all the hard work that my parents do, that my brothers do, and that I do to help change the prejudices against Latinos is undone in an instant by these idiots.
    I want to see my people move forward and become a model for citizenry. But it will not happen. Not like this.
  • dankoleary, on 10/12/2007, -33/+8I'm over it. Really, this faux racism and stupid nationalism just distracts from the real issues.
    • dougdee, on 10/12/2007, -16/+17Stupid Nationalism?

      My God... who ARE you people?
    • darkstar949, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yes, like people coming to the country, working, earning money, using resources, and not paying taxes on or for anything.
  • BPete, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26Someone said "give then that town" I think not. Go through that town and remove everyone without a green card. End of that problem there. English is the talk of the country. End there. STOP the flow at the border and THEN clear out the folks that are law breakers. End there. Hey, this is making sense to me.
  • mjenkins, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. Those people should be rounded up and sent back to their original homelands.

    This is as close as I can come to finding a law against what they did.

    California Military and Veteran's Code:
    616. Any person who displays a red flag, banner, or badge or any flag, badge, banner, or device of any color or form whatever in any public place or in any meeting place or public assembly, or from or on any house, building, or window as a sign, symbol, or emblem of forceful or violent opposition to organized government or as an invitation or stimulus to anarchistic action or as aid to propaganda that advocates by force or violence the overthrow of government is guilty of a felony.
  • procopy, on 10/12/2007, -14/+18Lock 'em up! And take wibble wobble with ya!
    • gandhii, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1why all the hate turned onto wibble?
      Sure his comment was quite naive and misinformed, but that hardly makes him the enemy of either side of this debate.
    • procopy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@gandhii

      No hate turned onto wibble here... it was directed towards his point of view... I just think that "Lock 'em up! And take wibble wobble with ya!" sounded a lot better than "Lock 'em up! And take wibblewibble's quite naive and misinformed comments with ya!" Don't you agree?
  • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16Any person who displays a red flag, banner, or badge or any flag, badge, banner, or device of any color or form whatever in any public place or in any meeting place or public assembly, or from or on any house, building, or window as a sign, symbol, or emblem of forceful or violent opposition to organized government or as an invitation or stimulus to anarchistic action or as aid to propaganda that advocates by force or violence the overthrow of government is guilty of a felony.

    Thank You Mjenkins!!
    • themulf, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4She said that? She sounds guilty of being an ass hole.
  • jtsai256, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15This is seriously messed up. I don't see this as helping their cause at all.
  • thefaj, on 10/12/2007, -27/+9Michelle Malkin is a hate mongering, racist, biggot.
    • dyozh, on 10/12/2007, -19/+4I completely agree

      buried as spam.
    • musters, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15but she's hot
    • raitchison, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6Maybe true but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    • appleann1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Go back and look at the transcript and video, then tell me who is the hate mongering, racist, biggot. Michelle brought to our attention dispicable behavior you will never see in the MSM. My relatives, killed in combat, did not give their lives so the Mexican flag could fly in any part of the U.S.
    • Viper2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6So are you, at least her family immigrated to this country LEGALLY!!
  • Flump5000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22if they want to join our country so bad then why do they try to get us ***** off at them?
  • panic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36"while chanting anti-American epithets"

    it doesn't sound like these people like America very much. What are they doing here?
    • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23they got bored back at home in their own ***** of a country so they wish to spread the joys of living in slums.

    • captaineuphoria, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"What are they doing here?"
      ***** people off.
      I guess it worked.
  • ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -24/+8It sure is encouraging to see that there are NO racists on Digg.

    It just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
    /sarcasm
    • Flump5000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16i dont understand how making fun of a certain country means being a racist.
    • Tabris, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Who's being racist? They're raising a Mexican flag on federal property. They have no reason to be here.
    • dalex1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Sorry slappy, there's racists EVERYWHERE. That doesn't make it right, but that's reality. I agree that terms like wetback being thrown around here don't help one bit and are lame. But at the same time, keep in mind it's certainly possible to strongly dislike what happened in the story without any racist tendencies. Many who disagree would try to blur that line, but it's a lame strawman effort.
  • saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34If they like Mexico that much to raise a flag, why aren't they still there?
    • zakainsworth, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22My thought exactly! Go back to where you came from! We don't want you here anyway!
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Because the people of Mexico don't want them either. I was visiting a customer in Mexico city and was amazed at how funny they think it is that they can "export their unwanted citizens" on this country. They need to go home and start a revolution there and leave this country alone.
  • Shawnosaurus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Apparently "illegal" doesn't mean what I thought it meant. All this time I thought that if I did something "illegal" I was in trouble. Now I know.
  • Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -18/+6I hate how you guys dont get it man, after living years with friends who came to the US ilegally, Ive learned a simple leason, and unlike all of you, not to simply say "Im fine with immigrants, just come to the US legally"

    What if they cant? What if they simply cant? Not a matter of money, they could work up to that, what if their country just would not give them the documents, it was eighter them living in poverty or giving their children a future. I think if lots of you, including me compare this to our early family. The same story applies.

    Dont kick them out, we need them and I think the president(s) know that (why haven't they done anything all these years?) Find a way to legalize the good. All of the friends that I know are illegals here pay taxes; Simply because they are here illegaly and want for the goverment to say, "Hey, lets help them out"
    Sure, there is bad, lots of, but we can easly filter that out.

    Digg me down as you wish, but this message, my word will say here.
    • Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14And for the record, I completly disagree with what these guys did with the flag, if they are so passionate about this country, they would not do these things. The main issue with immigrants in the US is, the "good" ones, the ones that possibly pay taxes and work hard dont "show up" they blend in with everyone else; And us, the people who vote sees these kinds of people.

      This may sound a little "white" but, why the hell do those mexican gangsters look like their holding their dick like 90% of the time?
    • repins, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21If you break the law to get here you do not deserve to be here. By allowing illegal immigrants to stay we cheapen the sacrifices and commitment of those who came here legally. If their home country will not allow them to leave, that is a problem in their home country not a problem with US immigration policy. Saying we need illegal aliens is like saying we need criminals to give the police department something to do.
    • Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2>>repins: "police department something to do"

      We do.. What happens when there is little/none? Just look on the video section on Digg.com
    • allatti2d, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Go google Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" ... apparently worked much better than Reagan's "Operation Amnesty."
  • hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -19/+4Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America y _a_la_republica_que_representa_, una nacion, baja dios, entera, _con_libertad_y_justicia_para_todos_.

    It's a free country. People will kill to get in this country. You have two choices: you can force them to do what it takes (ie, kill) to get here, or you can offer them an alternative so they will not. Currently the attitudes toward both are: ***** 'em.

    Well that's not solving anything. It may make you all feel better to spout cultist or racist rhetoric on digg or on your blog about their protest. It solves nothing.

    You say you've got no problem with legal immigrants, but you ***** all over the illegals. Why? Because you see the illegals as damaged, as inferior. You allow yourself the right to disparage them in word and deed because you see them as less than yourself.

    You fail to see them as the human brothers and sisters they are.

    And if that's not a felony, it damn well should be.
    • DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18the "illegals" are being taught how to sneak into the US by the mexican government. they are being told how to vote for mexican favored policies in the US. they mexican governemt is sponsoring an INVASION of the US, in what they think they are entitled to. If someone wants to come into mycoutry and disrupt my way of life, why should I treat them with respect?
    • lord2800, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20No, I view illegals as people unwilling to stand the trials of legal immigration. I know the system is a ***** to go through, but that doesn't mean you should game it. The fact that they illegally crossed also speaks volumes about their stance in regards to other laws. Who's to say they won't casually ignore the laws about shoplifting if they casually ignored the laws about immigration?
    • HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24No. We see them as lawbreakers.
      You want these people? Then set aside some space in your own yard and go buy some tents. Buy enough groceries to feed them and pay for their medical care yourself. Don't get in a hissy fit demanding that the rest of us foot the bill for something that you want to support.
      Put your money where your mouth is or STFU.
    • HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21more....
      I got my family here legally and I demand the same of Mexicans. They're not more important than everyone else in the world.
    • repins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21It is not racist to expect people to respect the laws of your country and your borders.

      I see them as human brothers and sisters, but that does not change the fact that they committed a crime and that crime should have consequenses. Being deported is one of those consequenses. A mass murderer, child molester or a theif are also human brothers and sisters, but they are not treated the same as normal people.

    • hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Because I'd rather make an enemy a friend and work with them than for either or both of us lose an arm, leg, eye, and ear.

      If you treat them with respect you gain their respect, which can in turn allow for resolutions that aren't violent or harmful to either party. I personally don't see the sense in killing someone over the remote control.

      Illegal immigrants can't vote, so I don't know where you got that idea. If you have evidence of voting fraud I suggest you report it. If you meant they simply support policies that are friendly to Mexico, so does the president.

      On the other hand, he also helps leverage the Mexican government away from what their people want, in favor of "US-friendly" policy.
    • hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1You need to understand the fact that you'll pay more money by trying not to pay any money for social welfare. You'll spend more deporting them than managing them and helping them to acclimate and learn and grow as people and as members of our larger society.

      So, ask yourself this question: would I rather this person be rotting in jail under my dime for five, ten years, or would I rather for less money over the same five, ten years, they learned and grew and provided valuable work that actually helped grow the economy of Mexico and the United States leading to a situation where Mexicans will flourish, and in turn we will too?

      I'm going with the latter. It is the better option. If you want the former, I'll still try to help you after it blows up in your face.
    • DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8> "If you treat them with respect you gain their respect, which can in turn allow for resolutions that aren't violent or harmful to either party."

      Who says the U.S. hasn't respected these people? The employers of this country have provided them with jobs. We are paying into welfare, and they have the ability to use it. The U.S. as a whole has been respecting illegal immigrants. However, the illegal immigrants (not all, but it seems like most) have not been respecting us.

      We speak English in this country, they are not taking the time to learn it. We allow ever immigrant to become a U.S. citizen and allow them to retain their Mexican citizenship (dual citizen ship), but they don't. They are not paying taxes/social security/welfare, as they are not U.S. citizens.

      Not tell me, does that seem like respect on behalf of the immigrants? I understand that Mexico may not be the best place to live and these people see (at least in their minds) a great opportunity in America. However, if they want to take part of this opportunity and use our resources, wouldn't seem only right that they respect us and at least become citizens and pay us back for what they use? Maybe they could also take time to learn our language instead of us being forced to learn there's? I don't know about you, but doesn't sound like respect to me.
    • hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"Who says the U.S. hasn't respected these people? The employers of this country have provided them with jobs. We are paying into welfare, and they have the ability to use it. The U.S. as a whole has been respecting illegal immigrants. However, the illegal immigrants (not all, but it seems like most) have not been respecting us."

      Yes and no. Obviously we provide them with better wages than they normally get, but they don't get what you or I would get for any job. Thus, they are in a subordinate position to us. Hardly respect. We do give health and welfare care to them, but that's something you do to keep the problem from being worse than it otherwise would be. If we didn't, it would be hell. So, pat yourself on the back for not invoking hell.

      "We speak English in this country, they are not taking the time to learn it. We allow ever immigrant to become a U.S. citizen and allow them to retain their Mexican citizenship (dual citizen ship), but they don't. They are not paying taxes/social security/welfare, as they are not U.S. citizens."

      No. Most people speak English. Some are bilingual. Some don't speak any English. While it's nice to be able to speak English, I don't see that as being part of the 'melting pot' attitude. We should help people learn to read, it's nice to be able to read. Same goes for English. That said, for every Illegal Immigrant that can't speak there is one that either can or is trying to learn. And for every one that learns there is at least one "full-blooded" American that can't speak English half as well.

      "[Now] tell me, does that seem like respect on behalf of the immigrants? I understand that Mexico may not be the best place to live and these people see (at least in their minds) a great opportunity in America. However, if they want to take part of this opportunity and use our resources, wouldn't seem only right that they respect us and at least become citizens and pay us back for what they use? Maybe they could also take time to learn our language instead of us being forced to learn there's? I don't know about you, but doesn't sound like respect to me."

      You don't seem to grasp the situation. They are coming here for pretty much one thing: money. It's the same thing average Americans do every day. We take jobs, move places, and marry people, because of money. The only way we will _stop_ illegal immigration is if they have financial incentives to live where they are already living. There's no silver bullet there. Throwing money at them will do no good, and it will take time to help build up their economy (amongst other political reforms that are needed on both sides of the border). In other words, you can disrespect them to the end of the earth, and they'll still keep coming. You can start executing them when they cross, and they'll keep coming (albeit they'll likely find a different route than where you're shooting). So, what is the obvious solution to this problem? Make the best of it.

      And that's all I've proposed from the start of this thread to this very moment. Make the best of it. Quit whining and hating, and make the best of it, because it's all we've got, and the alternative is _hell_. I don't particularly digg on the notion of endless suffering. Seems like if I had to choose between short-term so-so conditions, long-term great conditions, and short-term bad conditions, long-term really bad conditions the first is better. That's what I've said from the get go.

      So what do we do to fix the problem? As I've said from the beginning, you change the rules a bit. Give them some matter of status, set a separate minimum wage for them, they'll pay taxes. Give them some sort of ladder to progress toward citizenship, and give them incentives to do so. Say, when they learn English they get 80% minimum wage, and so on. But here's the kicker: require them, once they have moved far enough along in their abilities, to return to their home country for a period of time, in order to better their homeland. Then, they can return to the US and become a citizen after say, seven years of time that counts their time here illegally as half-credit up to say, four years. So if they were here for 8, went home for 2, then they can come back for 3 and be full citizens. I'm just throwing numbers out, it would be best to have people more familiar with both the law and the typical illegal immigrant to work on specifics.

      Point being, when you give someone a way to better themselves that also pays off for them in the short term, they're much more likely to follow it. For whatever reason everyone here thought I was spouting gibberish or worse that I'm some sort of traitorous globule that stains our nation's flag. I just want to see things done right, and I think the stale attitudes that pervade modern policy making (both domestic and foreign) are dangerous and idiotic. Try something different for a change. "Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you've always gotten."

      Anyway, this item is past its prime so hopefully I won't be modded down to the ground this time. If so, at least you can't say I didn't warn you.
  • FDDIcent, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6America is a continent, not a country.
    • dalex1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14semantics games sure are fun. Wheeee!
    • musters, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15by that definition, maybe you should say America is TWO continents...
    • fleischner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Exactly. If you're going to be a condescending semantics douchebag, get it right. There is no continent called America. There are, however, ones called North America and South America.
    • keylime314159, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Actually, "America" is the short name of our country. The full name is "United States of America". This is exactly the same process as deriving the word "Mexico" which is the short name neighbor to the south. Their full name is "Estados Unidos Méxicanos" (roughly "United States of Mexico").
  • HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Why oh why is this not on CNN, Fox, Reuters, etc?
    • DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -17/+9Because the immigration issue only comes around every two years when the Republicans need a quick and easy way to get people of the much more important issues that reflect badly on them. So we waged a pointless war that wasted $300 billion tax dollars? Look over there, an immigrant!

      Illegal immigration is hardly the major problem that anyone makes it out to be and this stupid little demonstration is a tiny blip on real world events.
    • daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@dr

      what state to you live in?
    • blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Because this whole thing was a non-event. About 10 whackjobs got together and thought it would be funny to put a Mexican flag on a post office flag pole. Not newsworthy. 0.o
    • DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ daldredge: I live in Texas.
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Because for a National news channel, this isn't a big issue, plus anytime the words "illegal" and "aliens" are used, the "undocumented scumbags" cry RACISM and speak with the ACLU about lawsuits.

      The city of Farmers Branch wanted to make it mandatory that all renting units conduct complete background checks. Right now if your white or black, they do a credit check to see if you're at risk. But if your Hispanic, they aren't allowed to ask in case you're "undocumented" (we aren't allowed to check them for driver's licenses or insurance either. If you're white or black, you get fined and you'll vehicle can be towed.). They claim it's racist, I think it "special privleges being revoked.

      No coverage on any of the Dallas TV stations, they're afraid of alienating viewers.
  • reddevil3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Mexicans are lucky that people are somewhat more tolerant here in the US. If you go to any other country they would be beaten up badly or even murdered on sight.

    I am an Asian living in the US right now, and this is highly discomfiting. Does this give me the right to wave around my country's flag here?

    How about people go to Mexico and start waving the US flag? Let's see how tolerant they are there.
  • Lowry, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Sad thing about Senator John McCain who has been supportive of Net Nuetrality is that he wants and supports this scum in the US.
  • zaskie, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8its funny hear you ppl whine about some illegal aliens and the us flag. The same flag you wear on your underwear, the one kidrock wore as a honcho to superbowl, the same flag President George W. Bush autographed, clearly violating the rules and regulations of the use of the american flag.

    you celebrate the 4th of july on cups and plates decorated with an american flag? ... you sir are in clear violation of section 8i of the flag code

    if you are an american and dont respect your flag, how can you ask for the rest of the world to respect it?



    • Lowry, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Zaskie, not a single one of those disrespects our country, it's a display of the freedom representing colors that all of the men and women in this country have served under.

      Raising a Mexican flag on a US post offices flag pole is not an OK thing to do and is in no relation to people wearing red white and blue underwear.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2maybe you should read the law on flag desecration..
      and somehow i dont think you would come out with the same cute responce, if the mexicans all showed up with flags stitched o teir back pocket.
      It is freedom of speech and it is a freaken post office, not a capital.
  • TheElectricFox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10being a native Texan(family originates before the Republic of Texas founding)..... I must protest that what these immigrants are doing is not helping there cause in anyway.... We as citizens all are given the rights granted to us by the Constitution.....THEY DONT.

    What they are doing is WITHOUT HONOR if they are citizens and if they aren't should be deported AT ONCE
    • blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I hope that our rights don't come from a piece of paper. We are born with our rights, the Constitution just sets out to protect those rights as best it can.
  • FireStrife, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12These people are crazy, Your coming into America and being incredibly discriminant towards the residents of the nation who live and founded the nation. Please someone deport these people put them back in the country they love so much that they have to come to America to shout nonsense.
  • SwordofKahless, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Due to the mass invasion America is no longer a melting pot and the process immigrant assimilation into our culture has just about ended. What happens when a nation no longer shares a common culture, border and language is the same that has happened to many great nations throughout history. If we do not see it our children will see the eventually breakup of the US very similar to that of the Balkans.

    Bush Jr, Clinton and Bush Sr, should all be sharing a cell in Leavenworth for the treasonous failure to protect our nations borders, allowing us to be conquered from within and the final sell out of America manufacturing base through globalist trade polices.
  • gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9i say we seal off the boarder, end to end, and shoot anyone who tries to sneak across. That would stop the flow of illegals for the most part. Then actively hunt down illegals and deport them asap, bar them from ever returning for any reason.

    If the government doesnt do something to that effect two things will happen: the illegals will become bolder and decide to act in a more agressive manor and/or americans will become fed up and act out in a very agressive manor, racism abound. This could lead to a regional cultural or civil war eventually, that is if no measures are taken against illegals by the government. Im glad im leaving the country after i graduate because of ***** like this.
  • Horseshoe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9In Miami, we have the Cuban flag "EVERYWHERE"...

    Also, for Cubans to become legal citizens, they simply have to touch dry land in america... no questions asked.

    everyone else from other countries... are screwed if they want to come to the USA. So if you come over here folks, just say you are cuban... and you will get a free pass. But no one talks about that, because the Miami cubans are a huge Republican voting block.

    As compared that to Haiti, and African nations where people are murdered daily compared to Castro's Cuba, and you know the USA is biased.
    • jbus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Yeah but Cubans are more likely to be vote republican (because of Elian) and side with the irrational policies toward Cuba, so many right-wingers are willing to overlook their skin color, language and culture if they can give more power to the GOP in Florida.
    • gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1thats because we dont like the cuban government cause they're psudo commie. We want to encourage their citizens to become Americans.
    • krk3561, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Your post is full of false statements.

      First of all, the policy was established under LBJ, a democrat, and an overwhelmingly Democratic controlled congress, not the Republicans.

      Cubans are traditionally Republicans because of JFK and his Bay of Pigs fiasco.

      Secondly, the law says that, "one who makes it to shore ("dry feet") gets a chance to remain in the United States, and later would qualify for expedited "legal permanent resident" status and U.S. citizenship." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_Foot-Dry_Foot_Policy)

      Its not automatic, they still have to go through the process, albeit expedited.

      Third, you don't think people are murdered by Castro? There are an infinite number of human rights abuses under the Castro regime.
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Maybe it's because there are only 11 million cubans in CUBA but there are 106 million Mexicans in Mexico, along with about 12 million here ILLEGALLY already.

      The republicans think that mexicans will actually be a voting block for them (lol) specifically Karl Rove does, hense they let the illegal entry continue.

      Personally I don't mind them letting in whoever wants to come here from Mexico, as long as they get a criminal background check, disease screening etc. Just letting people in without doing that is irresponsible. Meanwhile the ones who make it end up working for like $4 an hour, which screws over lower class American workers.

      It's a sad situation, the Republicans think it will benifit them politically, as do the democrats, so the flood continues while 80% of the American people want something done to stop it.
    • Karyyk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@jbus: You obviously don't know the first thing about Cubans. Cubans come from a slew of different backgrounds, and their skin color is just as varied. My mother is a Cuban immigrant, and she's Caucasian, of Spanish, French and Basque decent. She's whiter than my WASP father.

      HISPANIC is not a racial term, it's ethnolinguistic, so as such, the terms Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, etc. mean nothing when it comes to race. They can be white, black, mestizo (what we'd call 'native American' here), even Asian. It's about culture, and Hispanic culture is being demonized here. You want proof? The vast majority of LEGAL immigrants in this country, regardless of culture or nationality, are AGAINST illegal immigration and this kind of activism.
    • Horseshoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1krk3561

      The statements are true... your post fleshes out some details, but cubans basically have an automatic citizenship waiting for them if the step on US soil... there is no doubt about it.

      You say "Bay of Pigs" is the reason they vote republican, I say... the vote republican.
      You fleshed out a reason, but the statement is correct.

      You say:
      "Secondly, the law says that, "one who makes it to shore ("dry feet") gets a chance to remain in the United States, and later would qualify for expedited "legal permanent resident" status and U.S. citizenship."

      I say..."for Cubans to become legal citizens, they simply have to touch dry land in america... no questions asked." (here for most folks, questions like... are you a terrorist? why did you come to the USA? Are you a fugitive or commited any crimes?" are just things people have to ask to rubber stamp them into citizenship)

      You say..."There are an infinite number of human rights abuses under the Castro regime"
      I say "As compared that to Haiti, and African nations where people are murdered daily compared to Castro's Cuba, and you know the USA is biased."

      the statement is true... if your imagination started on some other track, and felt compelled to instantly say ... nononono... about Cuba and castro... then you need to respond in a better fashion please.

      thanks


      Its not automatic, they still have to go through the process, albeit expedited.

      Third, you don't think people are murdered by Castro? There are an infinite number of human rights abuses under the Castro regime.

      Let's see.. "Expidited" into citizenship...(unless they are found to be a danger to the USA)
  • mancat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13From the video, "***** you. Get out of my country." Couldn't have put it better myself. If you are here illegally, you HAVE NO RIGHTS. Please take your flag down and leave. You can put it on your lawn, your car, or whatever else you want, once you're a citizen. Having pride in your national heritage is just fine. I just can't stand watching these people acting like ***** conquerors.
  • mancat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10A picture from the protest: http://gopvixen.blogs.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/0826protest_3.jpg

    Someone doesn't know their history very much. Unless your bloodline is of 100% native heritage, I'm sure you wouldn't be here if the Spanish never came.
    • sone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The difference is immigrants of the past assimilated into United States. This includes Mexican immigrants. Today’s immigrants, at least the Mexican’s who are raising their flags in United States, are against assimilating. Their belief is Mexican first, not American.
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not only that, but we PAID for the land we received from Mexico after the Mexican-American war. From Wikipedia:

      In return, Mexico received $18,250,000, the equivalent of $627,500,000 in mid-2000s dollars.

      So not only did we kick their ass for that land, but we were so nice we paid them for it afterwords. Yet these people run around saying we 'stole' California. Typically when stealing something, you don't pay 627 million dollars for it.


  • TheKingInYellow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4there: in or at that place.
    their: The possessive form of they.
    they're: contraction of they are.
  • lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Even adjusting the flag on that pole could be successfully brought as tampering with government property, which is a federal felony.

    If they catch who did it they will spend a minimum of 20 years in a federal "pound me in the ass" prison thinking about their mistake.
  • blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Digg has spoken, this thread is dead!
  • spengy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This makes my blood boil.
  • clyde2801, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3But...if we sent all the illegals back, who will mow my yard for twenty bucks?
    • TheKingInYellow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i'll mow your yard for 10 bucks.
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5There is no job in America that isn't occupied by mostly American workers, yes even picking lettuce is done by mostly American workers. The excuse that 'there are jobs Americans wont do' is a disgusting lie.
  • allatti2d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Stylerm/Dr.A --
    See what you can do about giving me your email or tell me what I should do to get mine to you. This issue may be better discussed elsewhere. To me, this is a very important issue, and it crosses other issue lines as well (security, freedom, economy, etc.).

    I haven't dugg the story yet, because the story and the issue are two different things. I perked up at the headline, because I used to live a few miles from Maywood and know the area well, have friends there too.

    Hmm, to Digg or not to Digg?
  • Gunnaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I think I'll quote Teddy here, he seems to have said it the best:

    "There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
  • pcheaven2k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Holy Crap this post has the most comments I have ever seen on digg.....guess 1 more ain't gonna hurt nuttin.....(That was a joke)....

    Okay first let me say I am Pro-Libertarian and yes I know that Libertarians believe in an Open-Border System and I am cool with that. I think that America is what it is because of an Open-Border System that our Founding Fathers implemented 250+ years ago. I have absolutely no problem with ANYONE coming to America with the hopes and ambition of having a better life for themselves and their families. I don't even have a problem with people who choose to come here by deceptive or immoral methods because they can't get here legally. However, I HAVE A BIG BIG PROBLEM with people that have come here and and used every available opportunity to say SCREW AMERICA. If you immigrate here, at least have the courtesy and decency to learn the laws, the language and work - whether you are here legally or not. Personally, I am for granting conditional amnesty....under the following rules and conditions:

    1.) You must have been here for 5 years
    2.) You can't have been convicted of any felonies or any sexual/drug/violent misdemeanors
    3.) You have to show that you have paid taxes (Federal Tax Returns) for at least 3 of the previous 5 years
    4.) You must be able to read/write english fluently (unless inhibited by mental or physical conditions preventing you from accomplishing this)

    I also believe that those same rules should apply to anyone who wants to come here, do away with the LEGAL IMMIGRATION all together, and allow an X amount of people from each country into the US every year. Then they can live/work here under those rules to attain legal status. Furthermore, we should do away with incentives and benefits for illegals. Why should they get free food/medical/medicine etc....when Legal Americans have a hard time getting those things.
  • widman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Colombia is to blame for the drugs problem and Mexico for the illegal workers.

    By any circumstances the US, or at least a group of powerful people there, has any responsibility on creating such problems.

  • appleann1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You liberals are the first to scream, we need more affordable housing, the environment is in a state of emergency, school system down the sewer and nobody has health care. And yet you want to add 100 mil more immigrants to the country. Where do we put them? What happens to the environment you care so much about? Many schools have to use trailors to accomadate the overflow. And most of the uninsured are ILLEGALS!
    • Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6We had a Dallas school administrator insist on hiring illegals as teachers to meet the Spanish speaking requirement for teachers in Texas. (Yes, you read that right.) That shows how much he cared about children. How can you do a criminal background check for pedophiles if the applicant is UNDOCUMENTED? Mind you, a black or white applicant will still be checked, but we will let the Hispanic pass because we need more bilingual teachers (only in Spanish though, all other cultural language can go to Hell.)
  • datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7hmm not on the front page any longer?
  • ScottyDog1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4We are being invaded from Mexico and GWB is doing nothing.

    Impeach GWB

    California is turning into a third world cesspool right before our eyes. Spanish is required just to do business and there are more radio stations in Spanish than English.
    • kadio, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1California is a ***** beautiful state and I'm glad I live here. Our strength comes from our diversity. If you don't like it you can move to Colorado Springs.
    • Bakkhai42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Get used to it SCotty the world is changing and not just in CA. You're not going to be able to expel your way out of it either.

      I am in favor of impeaching GWB though - but for war crimes.
  • TheElectricFox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7BTW have any of those illegals looking to become citizens or for that matter any Americans ever read the oath of citizenship??

    "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."


    notice the "renounce alligence to all foreign states"....
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