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- c010rb1indusa, on 11/05/2009, -20/+430We've spent over $2 trillion on both the War in Afghanistan and the War in Iraq in response to 3,500 Americans who died on 9/11 but the GOP thinks $30 billion a year to save the lives of 45,000 Americans every year is to high a cost. Please explain the logic behind that. And don't tell me things will be worse if there is a government run option, when every other developed country in the world has a better healthcare system than the United States, with some form of a government option and pay less for it. http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
- Maddoktor2, on 11/05/2009, -34/+345Grayson is the only member of Congress with the balls to tell it like it is.
Definitely Presidential material. - Gosunkugi, on 11/05/2009, -10/+146I love his pause and incredulous look before saying Joe Wilson's name.
- jeffbw, on 11/05/2009, -18/+150Truth-talkers in the moneychanger temple? Knock me over with a feather.
- Misinformant, on 11/05/2009, -15/+123Grayson/Kucinich 2016
- ParadiscaCorbas, on 11/05/2009, -28/+114Go, Sen. Grayson, go. Tell 'em!
- hughesw2, on 11/05/2009, -2/+86I trashed Congressman Grayson in a comment earlier this week, but I take it back. This was awesome and spot on. Some of his theatrics go overboard sometimes, but I think his intentions are good and his heart is in the right place. It's too bad that it takes an Alan Grayson to paint this in moral terms when we have a gifted speaker in Barack Obama who should have been doing that all along.
- treehugger87, on 11/05/2009, -0/+81Your point being why should he care, right? Doesn't the fact that he does care make you respect him all the more?
- piznut, on 11/05/2009, -10/+90Im a huge fan of the public option with opt-out.
Statistically speaking, the states most likely to opt out (the red ones) are the biggest burden on the healthcare system anyway.
Something about being stupid and unhealthy seem to go together. - CosmicSurfer, on 11/06/2009, -4/+68If one REALLY wants to deal with the cost of health care for all...then deal with the money handed out for free to contractors and war profiteers who take billions every year...Not make...TAKE!
KB&R paid billions to feed the troops then turn around and charge the TROOPS per plate! For every bottle of WATER in the desert! Force them to sleep in substandard facilities while the over paid contractors live with better food, better facilities and sure as hell better pay for less work....They get the prime jobs...
But then let's look at the money spent on defense.
c010rb1indusac010rb1indusa already brought in the cost of these two money makers for the profiteeers in the desert, the wars in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN. While our troops bleed physically and financially, let's look at the money spent EVERY YEAR REGARDLESS if there is a war or not....Remember, BUSH paid IRAQ off budget so those dollars aren't even in the following
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget.
That is 47% of the entire...the ENTIRE WORLD'S EXPENDITURE on defense.
TOP 10 Countries in defense spending
United States $522
China $63
Russia $62
United Kingdom $51
Japan $45
France $42
Germany $30
India $22
Saudi Arabia $21
South Korea $21
The US # ONE! See we still are number 1 in ONE thing...Not health care; not environment, not charity, not education, not intelligence, not life expectancy, not wages, we are number 1 in selling arms to the world; in assuring we can blow up the planet more often than any other country; to kill more people than amnyone else; to destroy mnore generations with depleted uranium and other toxic materials left in th air and on the ground where ever we go...
Aren't we special?
OVER EIGHT TIMES the expenditure of CHINA...
And we can't possibly pay for health care..
Want more info on the ridiculous Pentagon budget? HUGE amounts for nothing more than toys for old children playing war and to sell to everyone on the planet so they will kill each other with our weapons...
http://borgenproject.org/Defense_Spending.html
http://armscontrolcenter.org/policy/securityspendi ... - piznut, on 11/05/2009, -3/+64Great healthcare is only great if it's accessible to everyone, and you don't have to go broke to get it. Our system fails miserably on both counts.
Id rather have to wait a little longer for non-emergency care than empty my retirement account or mortgage my home if I commit the horrific sin of getting sick. - pintomp3, on 11/05/2009, -3/+59You Die!
- bacon_skoda, on 11/06/2009, -2/+56it really is a moral question.
Are we a country that takes care of it's people or are we all islands?
If an American gets captured on foreign land, we fly planes and send ships to get them back. Yet we stop and argue whether to save an American if they are sick. For what? To save $20. - bysin, on 11/05/2009, -0/+52Sounds honorable and unselfish
- atroxodisse, on 11/05/2009, -1/+50Some people want to spend money to live, others want to spend money to kill.
- Dauntless1, on 11/05/2009, -1/+50How does this make him different from anyone else in congress?
- unhg, on 11/05/2009, -8/+55This dude's a good speaker and have balls of steel.
Check is vid on him calling pwning republicans at their own game.
http://digg.com/politics/Alan_Grayson_The_Republic ... - MatzahMan, on 11/05/2009, -13/+60That man has balls of steel. *Slow Clap*
- piznut, on 11/05/2009, -1/+47Not a surprising statement from a conservative. The people who elect officials to enrich themselves rather than serve us.
- pintomp3, on 11/05/2009, -2/+44So you agree our health insurance scheme needs to be scraped?
- depro9, on 11/05/2009, -10/+51I hope they don't kill this guy. :(
I <3 you Sen. Grayson! I know of two very close people who have died because they were poor. & they would have given the shirts off their backs if someone else needed it. GOOD PEOPLE! - Hammettrucci, on 11/05/2009, -3/+43Congressman*
- c010rb1indusa, on 11/05/2009, -4/+43We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
It says in in the first sentence, letting 45,000 people die because they can't afford health insurance isn't promoting the general welfare of our country.
And if you think the US has the best healthcare in the world you are 100% WRONG, that isn't even debatable. - OrangeTide, on 11/05/2009, -14/+52shock and awe bitches
- pilot3033, on 11/05/2009, -6/+44[citation needed]
(also, founding documents are designed to ensure government for the people, by the people. I can't think of anything more true to that than everyone pitching in to help out) - AxisDenied, on 11/05/2009, -4/+41People die in all districts, and thats the problem he's outlining. He's calling out the people who aren't in favor of reform in a way that provides insurance for all.
- TheCollective00, on 11/05/2009, -9/+44Yes, but the death's he was talking about are only the ones as a direct result of not having insurance, and therefore not being able to get life saving health care.
- piznut, on 11/05/2009, -5/+39These numbers are directly from a peer reviewed Harvard Medical study.
The methodology is documented and transparant. You could go google it...or do you suffer a litttle cognitive dissonance? - regeya, on 11/05/2009, -1/+35You have to be out of your mind if you think the decades-long standing military is Constitutional, too.
- piznut, on 11/05/2009, -2/+34I heard this too and made the natural assumption that he was referring to death from treatable illness....since you know, its totally obvious and Im not a moron.
- c010rb1indusa, on 11/05/2009, -1/+31that doesn't include contractors hired and paid by the US government
- GamerXR72, on 11/05/2009, -1/+31Better is a very subjective term. Better how?
Does our healthcare system have less deaths per 1000 than developed countries with a public option? - GrammerPants, on 11/05/2009, -4/+33I love it when people state that America has the best doctors/health care. Have you lived in any other 1st world country?
- aosmitty, on 11/06/2009, -6/+34Funny how we soul-search and blame ourselves when a kid shoots up a school and kills a dozen people; wondering what went wrong and how we can prevent it from happening again.
Then (hundreds, thousands of) people die from lack of health insurance and we all kind of shrug like it's perfectly normal.
owait, it IS perfectly normal... hmmm - jonstewart24, on 11/05/2009, -4/+31http://costofwar.com/
- Mejari, on 11/06/2009, -2/+29You show me some facts and I promise not to hate them. Haven't seen any from you, tho.
- piznut, on 11/05/2009, -6/+32@superkendall
Awesome...Ill tell my mom that the next time she has to get chemo. Since she emptied her retirement accounts for the last round, now she can just stiff the hospital and then they can soak up the loss by charging everyone else extra. Oh wait, cancer isn't 'life threatening' so they don't have to treat it in the ER
Great system.
Idiot - nygenxer, on 11/06/2009, -7/+33I don't understand why no one else says the things he does. He's speaking with verifiable facts, NOT crazy fringe *****. Are other Dems really lacking in testicular fortitude that badly?
If you think he's kicking GOP ass, you should elect me: I'll have them on the floor in a ***** fetal position crying for their mothers. - EddiePotato, on 11/05/2009, -5/+30OK. Disingenuous: people who say they have all sorts of compassion for their fellow humans, yet insist on upholding a system in which a large percentage of even the hard-working among them are forced to suffer and die from treatable illnesses. Disingenuous.
- eugenetabisco, on 11/06/2009, -3/+28Digger1123 -- Your comment is both sad and laughable! You have no idea what your argument is and, quite frankly, should be held up as the epitome of the Republican stance -- just say the opposite whether it's backed by information or not.
A message to you and your ilk -- your ignorance will not longer be tolerated here. Thanks for playing. - SoulGrub, on 11/06/2009, -2/+27This dude is only 41, he's got a long future assuming he makes it past reelection. He might have a shot if the country swing back away from the crazy right.
- pintomp3, on 11/05/2009, -5/+29Two words: General welfare.
- detcade, on 11/05/2009, -2/+24I think "die of a non-age-related affliction or event" was a given to that part of the statement
- depro9, on 11/05/2009, -3/+25wow please make this happen!!!!!!!!!!!!
- debtman7, on 11/05/2009, -0/+21The constitution also says that only congress has the power to declare war. Did I miss that declaration when the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were started? The right (and, yes, the left) only care about sticking to the constitution when it suits them. If your argument is that healthcare is not cool because it's not a power granted by the constitution, then you should also refute the wars, in which case your claim of logic is bunk.
And yes, I know congress gave up that whole war power to the president, but last time I checked the constitution didn't say that only congress could declare war, except when they agree to let the president do it. - evilawesome, on 11/06/2009, -0/+21hey, has anybody seen my pacemaker? i know i left it around here somewhere.....
OH YEAH IN CANADA WHERE IT WAS INVENTED.
what about that birth control... let's see... was it in the car...
OH, NOPE, IT'S IN POLAND. WHERE IT WAS INVENTED. (NOT THE ONE IN OHIO.) - catalysis, on 11/05/2009, -1/+22Do you really think he meant that 40% of people will never die?
- JStraum, on 11/06/2009, -0/+21If 45,000 die, how many others "just" suffer?
- depro9, on 11/05/2009, -1/+20I see what you did there.
- seks03, on 11/05/2009, -5/+24Grayson has some balls, Loves how he stands down to the first attempt to get him to stop.
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