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Gingrich Cites ‘Opportunity’ To ‘Convert All Of America’ To Fundamentalism
thinkprogress.org — VIDEO: "Anybody on the left who hopes that when people like Reverend Falwell disappear that the opportunity to convert all of America has gone with them fundamentally misunderstands why institutions like this were created," said Gingrich.
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- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -2/+31This is the same guy that was cheating on his wife while he was pushing Clinton's impeachment. It's fitting that he's pushing fundamentalist Christian 'values' isn't it?! Go away Newt.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -18/+2Oh gee... you mean the impeachment for perjury? What does that have to do with his affair?
And yeah, he is a hypocrite for pushing "family values" while having an affair.
But shall we take license with the Bible here.... Let he is who is without hypocrisies cast the first stone?
Also, he was invited to speak and the cameras didn't have to be there. He was making a statement to a theological college about theological matters. So, he shouldn't have to "go away". Grow up and quit trying to be better than everyone else. - wonderchemist, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Many Newt just wanted to have more then one wife, which is allowed in some christian sects.
- nixonrichard, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I have to say, "polygamy rights" will be the next "gay rights." When you think about it, there's no good reason why three people shouldn't be allowed to get married. If having two husbands or two wives or a wife and a husband makes them happy, who are we to judge?
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -18/+2Oh gee... you mean the impeachment for perjury? What does that have to do with his affair?
- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22Seems Gingrich is running for leader of the American Taliban.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2That's just stupid JCSaint.
He was speaking at the commencement of the college the Falwell founded. Should he just have pissed on the grave of the man, who was his friend?
Also, the article to go with the video is flame-bait at best... tying in Gingrich's opinion that Falwell led a good life to Falwell's claim that 9/11 was god's retribution is just sloppy straw-man at best. You can believe someone lead a good life and still made stupid comments. - JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19"A growing culture of radical secularism declares that the nation cannot profess the truths on which it was founded," Gingrich said. "We are told that our public schools can no longer invoke the creator, nor proclaim the natural law nor profess the God-given quality of human rights.
This kind of language scares the crap out of me. Trying to tie religion with our government is the essence of fundamentalist extremists. If you want that, send your kids to a private school. It has no official place in a public institution. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3How is that trying to tie religion with our government?
Or do you also not like the references to God, the creator, and supreme judge in the Declaration of Independence?
Also, it's freedom OF religion... not freedom FROM religion being discussed. Censoring religious discussion is not doing the world a favor, it's oppressing the majority of americans.
Should Christianity become the official religion of the USA? HELL NO!.
Should ANY religion become the official religion of the USA? HELL NO!
Should any reference to religion be stricken from public debate? HELL NO!
Should people who want to be "inclusive" actually be truly INCLUSIVE of all thoughts? HELL YES! - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5And whoever is burying JCSaint needs to stop. He has a right to his opinion just like you. And burying comments because you don't agree with them cheapens the debate on digg.
- gerran, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@thcobbs
The Declaration of Independence is not a founding document of the United States government. It is an open letter from the American colonies declaring their sovernty. It is essentially a list of grievencies against the King of England. The Declaration of Independence is a historical document, but it has nothing to do with the founding of the U.S. government.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights *are* founding documents and you'll notice that the words "god", "christian", "jesus", and any other specific religious terms are completely absent from those documents. This is not a mistake. The only time religion is mentioned in those documents is when it is exclusionary.
> Also, it's freedom OF religion... not freedom FROM religion being discussed.
Actually it is. Here's the line that you need to read again from the 1st Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...". This part grants all of us freedom from religion. The government cannot ever pass a law forcing a state sponsored religion. Freedom FROM religion allows for freedom OF religion. Get it? This is why the separation be church and state is so important.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2That's just stupid JCSaint.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3Hrrrm.... ok. Gingrich talking at Falwell's College.....
Also, he's not saying that the right should Convert all of America to Fundamentalism... He was saying that the left won't have a chance to convert all of america to secularism. Nice attempt to twist words again Ms. Terkel.
Oh, and no where in your video does he say what you quoted him on.- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"Anybody on the left who hopes that when people like Reverend Falwell disappear that the opportunity to convert all of America has gone with them fundamentally misunderstands why institutions like this were created," Gingrich said.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/REPOSITORY/705200388/1311/48HOURS - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3I'm just attacking the title on this one... The title implies that the video on the website contains that phrase. It doesn't. I'm just pointing out that fact.
- sonaro, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4I never agree with thcobbs, but this post by thinkprogress is a blatant a mixture of quotes and news clips that are put together to form the author's own message.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1@sonaro
You made the mistake of agreeing with me... I wonder how deep you'll be buried for it?
- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"Anybody on the left who hopes that when people like Reverend Falwell disappear that the opportunity to convert all of America has gone with them fundamentally misunderstands why institutions like this were created," Gingrich said.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2And now, the thinkprogress people come in to bury my comments... Even AFTER I bumped JCSaint's when he was being buried. Lovely way to keep debate alive.
- zappo1776, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11I guess Gingrich doesn't agree with "secular extremists" like Thomas Jefferson. He has a right to his opinion.
- diggerydood, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7What a pompous, smug piece of crap.
- MorgaineSwann, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Never take people like Gingrich lightly. They're dangerous - they're the first ones in line to burn a book or oppress anyone who disagrees with them. They either don't understand or don't care about the idea of American democracy and the separation of church and state, and the people who listen to them are usually too poorly educated to understand that. They manipulate people who just want to be good people into doing horrible things in the name of their religion.
Christian fundamentalists pose a greater risk to the American people than anyone in the Middle East ever could. I wish people would wake up.- Artifez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6They're arrogant repressive bastards who compensate for their fear of women by demonizing sex and anything sensual.
- maskidat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Maybe it's a cultural thing. Here we can sizzle folks at the stake, but beheading is not nice. People need to review their history, before they talk about terrorists being worthy of torture. It's a slippery slope...
- Artifez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2She turned me into a NEWT!
- MakiNavaja, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Anybody in the U.S. who accuses those of other nations as being under the sway of religious zealots needs to take a good, hard look in the mirror. There are more radical fundamentalists in the U.S. than anywhere else.
- reddevil3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Is it just me or are their a LOT of people on the right who who want religious fundamentalism to take over this country? I live in Alabama and it's scary how many people want "God God, Christianity, Jesus, Jesus" in every aspect of America.
Right-wingers should know that secularism is the opposite of the religious extremists in the Middle East, not Christian extremism. - silverchrysalis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1since when did anyone have the right to take 'fun' out of fundamentalism?
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