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- webXL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You may not agree, but we're at war. The public agrees with the administration's declaration or else it would have ELECTED a different one. Majority rules in a democracy. If you don't like it, go find a different majority, or dictatorship. Until someone in the minority (other than legitimate enemies) is tortured, you can't argue that you're part of an oppressed minority. This policy is effective, or else the President wouldn't risk his power and his party's control of congress. Let's not forget that the government also has the ability to force us to fight and die for this country. It can do many things, like lock us up for not paying taxes, that are morally questionable. But everyone in the world has to give up things in order get things from their government. That's just the way it is.
If someone wants to betray my country and help those who want to kill innocent civilians, they run the risk of being tortured so that the harm they have inflicted on my country can hopefully be undone in time to prevent an attack. I can live with that. Now what's considered as help might be up for debate, but at least we have debate in this country which is quite different than most others. - jackelsmack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1>>You may not agree, but we're at war.>Majority rules>This policy is effective, or else the President wouldn't risk his power and his party's control of congress
- curtissthompson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1His claim that The Wisconsin State Journal has been right of center for a while in its past, is rather inaccurate, as any of my friends and family will tell you, being that we read it everyday here in Madison. If you are to play the left vs. right in comparison with Madison's big two newspapers, then if you ask any Madisonian, they'll tell you that the Wisconsin State Journal leans left, and the Capital Times, leans right. I personally love WSJ because they do good reporting in general, and hold lesser bias than most news sources.
And yes Madison and Southern Wisconsinites are very sensible minded people that are liberal in general. - jackelsmack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Torture apologists: you will get what's coming to you in hell.
Here are the real facts: The 'Military Commissions' bill says the President gets to determine what is torture and what isn't, and doesn't have to reveal this to anyone. Defendants cannot challenge the conditions of their detainment in court. 'Evidence' gained through torture can be used against the defendant in military tribunals. Defendants can be detained at will for as long as the president wants without being charged, and without being able to challenge their detention. Defendants can be sentenced to death without seeing the evidence against them, and without ever having seen a real judge. Anyone in the world (including US citizens) who is accused of 'intentionally and materially' supporting the enemy can be locked up forever in Guantanamo and never heard from again. This includes all the non-terrorists the feds have arrested in the last five years and pretended they were going to charge them with terrorism, but had no evidence. Don't need that silly evidence stuff anymore! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@webXL
You're right, majority rules in a democracy.
But the United States is a republic, moron.
Anyone who would defend the effective nullification of habeas corpus, which has been the basis for Western legal systems since the Magna Carta in 1215, is NOT a patriot.
They are a coward and a traitor. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Ah, the joys of ignorance.
The torture supporters are out there today.
American way? Torture!
Hooray, we are now free of morals and ethics!
Hooray, President Hitler!
Cowards NEED torture. - Irimi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3How is this political opinion? Isn't this just fact without the distortion of anxiety and fear?
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