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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -14/+134The REPUBLICAN audience clapped:
1) When the other candidates attacked Paul
and
2) When one of the candidates said he wished for a "Jack Bauer" to help America (Jack Bauer is a fictional TV character)
We. Are. Doomed. - FlaG8r, on 10/11/2007, -11/+110^Yes, we were all very shocked to see a lack of fairness on Fox News
- dave11980, on 10/11/2007, -9/+94The powers that be are scared of Ron Paul and trying to end him. They are scared because with the internet they no longer control the whole of the communication and that power we wield to openly discuss him is causing fear. More fear than even the most armed populace could generate. Fear of and idea, and the idea is freedom for the people through a return to our founding values.
- aliengoods, on 10/11/2007, -8/+75Wow. A republican who makes sense. Thank god Fox is trashing him, or he might have a chance in the next election.
- buddyw, on 10/11/2007, -12/+74There were a lot of loaded questions tonight, and as bad as Ron Paul's comment about our occupation of the middle east causing 9/11 sounded. He was absolutely right. That is why the middle east hates us.
- understudy, on 10/11/2007, -15/+72
Aren't the questions supposed to be unbiased?
What happened to the integrity of debate moderation?
_ - greenamp, on 10/11/2007, -19/+66***** Faux news.
- TLG4Freedom, on 10/11/2007, -10/+57Holy ***** Ron Paul 30% in poll!!
1st place - bgraves20, on 10/11/2007, -9/+53And Fox went straight into spinning why he isn't really in first.
- FuzzyNaval, on 10/11/2007, -8/+50I never participated in any text voting before, but I had too once I saw Ron Paul at 30%. Fox is pissed.
SMS to: 36988
Ron Paul: R7 - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+51Oh and BOO-YAH!! to Ron Paul for providing specific examples of CONSERVATIVE, REPUBLICAN administrations of the past that had the courage to END war.
- TLG4Freedom, on 10/11/2007, -10/+51 I wish Americans would just research our last 50 years of Foreign and Military policy. Along the way you would realize that people do not forget. If they're family or country have been wronged by another governments clandestine operations..they will remember. Radicals will exploit these occurrences and pursue their vision of revenge aka "blowback". That was Ron Paul’s point, but it was obviously taken the wrong way.
- smoothmedia, on 10/11/2007, -10/+49Ron Paul is leading.....and Fox News is POed
- jchanc04, on 10/11/2007, -7/+41I hate fox news as much as the next guy but I will say this debate was better run then the MSNBC debate.
Here they at least sometimes followed up when the candidates tried to dodge the questions.
The MSNBC debate was a joke filled with softballs.
Go Paul for having the guts to stand up to Rudy "Remember me on 9/11" Guliani - mrrandom, on 10/11/2007, -6/+38Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate for President -- all the rest are running for Emperor.
- samschoice, on 10/11/2007, -19/+50The Republican Party is now the Republican Army. Ron Paul stands alone for liberty.
- abitarecatania, on 10/11/2007, -11/+41FOX NEWS just showed Ron Paul winning the second debate 22066!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+39Ron Paul had the biggest balls for speaking the truth in the face of 9 neocon warmongers, the neocon audience, and the neocon Faux News Channel.
- donroy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+36Ron Paul also wants to abolish the privately run, ripping-us-off Federal Bank. I agree with his stance on smaller government and protecting our privacy by getting government out of our wallets and private information...
- jae1227, on 10/11/2007, -6/+36I think Guliani attacking Paul will be to Paul's advantage. Guliani showed that Paul is a viable candidate by addressing his statement. Either this will kill him or propel him into the first tier. I believe it is the latter.
Paul 2008!!!!! - sibhod, on 10/11/2007, -4/+32Ron Paul is a libertarian. Of course he wants to get rid of the Dept. of Education.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33A debate and audience like that really makes me reconsider the idea of a voter IQ test. I'm not entirely serious, but damn! With the exception of Ron Paul, those boys are dumb. I'd rather watch a row of doorknobs tell me how shiny smooth they are. And yes, the question to Paul on the war was phrased in a really obnoxious way -- totally inappropriate, not that the Fox audience would get why.
Colbert was joking recently about wanting a weapon where we could blast an enemy and destroy knowledge of, say, nukes--kind of like the neutron bomb, but for ideas.
I sat there watching my TELEVISION, wondering if we hadn't already perfected it. - siska1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27Paul is....
small government, anti federal reserve, pro guns, pro life, anti UN, non-interventionist...
If you think that's liberal you're a perfect example of the modern brain washed mainstream media watching American.
Restore The Constitutional Republic!!! Vote Ron Paul - greenamp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24Who the ***** decides which candidates are "top tier" and which are not? The media? The last time I checked they were all running for candidacy in a democratic election and are therefore all "top tier."
This tier ***** is just political propaganda. - praxisseizure, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26@ basscadet
You're totally missing the point on why we're supporting Ron Paul.
It's not that he's Republican or Democrat. In our view, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME UGLY MAN WITH TWO FACES. Yet we understand America won't vote for anyone outside of those two parties. (Shame as it is)
If you are so ignorant as to be able to take sides in the partisan politics of our country, then my condolences on your inferior brain.
We know the game. We are choosing our best option, and an option like Ron Paul hasn't come around in the Presidential scene since Reagan. (and I don't speak for everyone, but evidence shows, most of us here are able to think for themselves)
Now no props to Reagan, he renegged on his promises, but with Paul's track record, we believe he will do some shaking up of the Federal Government. Doesn't mean he will solve all our problems, but it's a HUGE step in the right direction. He still has to deal with the lame duck Congress and looking at their recent track record, they're gonna give him a run for his money as far as policy is concerned.
But that's another point. It's GOOD that the branches of government fight. It's GOOD when they work slowly and argue often. That means that things are getting done in a fair and balanced way through deliberation. It also means new laws will be more closely scrutinized rather than steamrolled through without even the Congress's batting of an eye.
All of this is positive. If you can't see that, then please stop commenting. You look like an idiot. - enlightenme, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27What's the problem people?
9/11 is a direct result from our occupation in the middle east.
Does that bother you?
Well it bothers Ron, and I'm falling in love with him. - crzslady, on 10/11/2007, -9/+32It's heartbreaking to me that so many Americans are unwilling or unable to look at the history of American foreign policy over the past 50 years and realize the truth and wisdom of Ron Paul's statement. Our government sends billions of dollars each and every year to Israel who has made hundreds of thousands of Muslims refugees. Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity, we should not be financing it.
- vatosplace, on 10/11/2007, -16/+38You mean the republican party is doomed...
- enlightenme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22I love how Giuliani says "...as somebody who lived through the attack of September 11...", like it makes him special.
We all lived through that day Giuliani, so please stop using a tragedy for your personal gain. - CkMaverick, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22I just hate how certain candidates take up so much more time than other candidates. Not going on a pro Paul and Gravel tangent, it is basically outrageous how the smaller candidates are treated on all debates. They are overlooked by the media which is supposed to be reporting straight up what happened unbiasedly and they are not asked nearly as many questions or given even close the same amount of time as the top tier candidates. This is the most important job in the entire country and they are not going to allow their employers (the American people) to adequately view all the candidate's resumes. As long as they are in the race they should be given the same chance as anyone else... That is the American Dream is it not? It just doesn't seem American to count people out before the campaigns have even really begun and start to kick them out of race by questionable polls and narrow opinions.
- LopsidedZebra, on 10/11/2007, -14/+34so i guess "bushie" and republican are synonymous now...
- kinghajj, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21@basscadet
Actally, many Libertarians still debate abortion. It comes down to whether fetuses have rights. Some, like Ron Paul, think that fetuses have rights; others don't. The point is, don't generalize and say that all Libertarians are pro-choice. - vsujohn2, on 10/11/2007, -9/+27Exactly, it is our misunderstanding of unconventional politics in the region. We can't sit back and be all wholesome saying 9/11 just happened to us, if you dont look at history you are doomed to repeat it. And if we continue this dangerous foreign policy we will be attacked and we will be looked down upon in the world, our economy will eventually suffer as our currency loses value. Very dangerous path, i pray that this does not happen.
- aliengoods, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23@donwilson2
I don't hold Fox in high regard. But there is no denying the influence they have over the religious right, which consists of 25% of the voters in this country. In fact, they're the only people still behind Bush (28% approval rating). If Fox trashes a Republican candidate, it will be next to impossible for them to get the nomination. I would love it if I were wrong, but I'm not. - nosecohn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18"as bad as Ron Paul's comment about our occupation of the middle east causing 9/11 sounded. He was absolutely right. That is why the middle east hates us."
He WAS right, and it didn't actually sound bad. It's just that Rudy saw an opening to attack and he went for it. Anytime you can tell Americans that we're not at all to blame and we should be kicking ass and taking names, they'll applaud.
Rudy claimed that it was part of their RELIGION to attack us! How perverted and racist is that?? He neglected to mention the last few centuries when they WEREN'T attacking us, before we had an oil-based, world-domination foreign policy. Now all the sudden they've had a religious revelation? I think not. - abitarecatania, on 10/11/2007, -15/+31Ron Paul won the first debate and anyone who watched the debate knows it.
MSNBC Lying:
http://buenosairesenglish.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-is-msnbc-lying.html http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ron_paul_demolishes_other_republicans_in_online_polls/
ABC tried to hide Ron Paul victory also:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3135373
CSPAN Has Ron Paul victory:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=103899
Youtube first GOP debate Ron Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBGJwE9NXo - ronpaulpeople, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18what was that ***** about the fictional "bombing" of shopping malls..............who the hell are these people!!! Then the one guy makes it into Nukes on his own.............Ron Paul said, hey *****, what about the REAL ***** WARS that are KILLING REAL Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn, this just made me a million times more determined to dedicate the next year and half of my life to RonPaul2008
- Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21Fair questions lol? They asked Ron twice if he was in "the right party". Give me a break. They also cut him out of three segments while tossing a few softballs to their chosen candidates. Fair and balanced? I think not...
- greenamp, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Exactly. Fox News handling of this debate was a complete joke. Their questions revolving around a fictitious terrorist bombing of shopping malls sounded exactly like it was taken from a script from 24. ***** ludicrous.
- greenamp, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19@ moin1097:
faux |fō| adjective [ attrib. ] artificial or imitation; false : a string of faux pearls.
I understand how it's pronounced thnx. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21Exactly... and between stuff like this and the Imus thing Fox isn't looking all that bad.
Plus, the Fox debate actually got me to join the Ron Paul camp... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+23Fox should just call themselves the Mousolini Facist News channel.
HUGE balls Ron Paul for speaking truth to the blood + torture + facist crowd. I can just see their audience selection.
Are you scared?, yes? you're in!
Do you love torture?, yes? you're in!
Do you love dictators?, yes ?you're in!
Do you love freedom and America?, yes? you're OUT! - thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+222 things to say here. First off, I have to say I'm loving Paul more by the day. As a registered Republican, it's someone like him that can bring the party into a modern era and maybe respark some people's faith in government. He has my vote as of now (mind you I'm against partisan parties in the first place). Second, Digg should really put like a warning or something when people submit stories from extremely biased websites.
- Rojahon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15If anything that makes Giuliani's position less credible, after all he's claiming to have a stronger emotional tie to the incident. Making policies based on emotion is not at all a good practice.
- Stochio, on 10/11/2007, -8/+23Same here. This is my first time EVER texting anything ever to a person that isn't in my contact list. Used my phone. Used my girlfriend's. Get YOUR vote in!
- el33tpenguin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16No such thing as bad publicity.
I would not worry too much about this debate. The next one will be held in New Hampshire on June 5th, and I get the feeling that Ron Paul will be very popular there. - Guitarzan, on 10/11/2007, -9/+24Hes winning! We need to keep it up. This is the best thing on FOX News, ever.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20Regarding the YouTube video:
A lot of what Paul said in the debate was sort of ho-hum for me, but when he started talking about the internet I literally sat upright.
I really support this guy, if nothing else for his stance on that. - whatthehoof, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15I love how throughout the debate, after the debate, everyone ignored Ron Paul. And those who didn't ignore him scoffed at him.
He spoke so few times during the debate even though he probably contributed the most. They even skipped him during the immigration question (watch the debate and you'll catch this). I didn't see the first 15 minutes of the debate, but I'm sure like most debates they asked the audience to hold their applause for the end. Of course, when Rudy Giuliani took a potshot at him, the crowd went wild and the moderators didn't say anything. I actually respected Giuliani before this, even though I didn't particularly like him as a candidate (too authoritative), but his cheap shot was uncalled for, NOT Ron Paul's comments on the War on Terror. The funniest part was when after Ron Paul responded, the other candidates spoke up asking to say their piece - obviously they just want to say the same, "Oh how dare you, Ron Paul, for saying such blasphemy!" so they could score some points with the audience.
I don't agree with all of Ron Paul's policies, but I think he's a worthy candidate. He keeps getting shafted in these debates, and it's so obvious that certain media types don't want to give this man too much attention, and certainly no positive attention. - ronpaulpeople, on 10/11/2007, -7/+22But the people in there don't represent US, I have never voted in my life and I am this time, and I am not the only one. Ron Paul will win, just don't stop pushing, and when they attack him, we attack them........find the Guliani video of him talking about building 7, post it every where, post their comments about a national ID card everywhere.........Fight People, this time it is for keeps!!!! Please")
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