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- thejimmyo, on 02/22/2009, -65/+436Glenn Beck is a seriously disturbed individual. He has been battling alcoholism for a good part of his life, and some of his family members have even committed suicide. It really shocks me that this guy has received his own television show. What he needs is pity, not a national platform.
Can't FOX find a better political commentator? Maybe at least someone who went to college, or has some sort of area of expertise in politics, financial systems, or the law? Why do they keep on propping up the unhinged rants of a "self-educated" alcoholic? This is like Joe the Plumber on crack. - homercles337, on 02/22/2009, -49/+399I cant remember where i found this:
Dear Red States:
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the entire Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly:
You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama .
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy
families. You get a bunch of single moms.
Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home.
We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have:
firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce
92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit
95 percent of America 's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners)
90 percent of all cheese
90 percent of the high tech industry - most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal all living redwoods, sequoias and condors all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus ... - Stanford , Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with:
- 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs)
- 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes,
- nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes,
- 90 percent of the hurricanes,
- virtually 100 percent of all televangelists and their buddies like Rush Limbaugh, as well as Bob Jones University, Clemson College and the Univ. of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you very much.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you nincompoops believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.
Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have the Mexican stuff when they knock your wall down.
Peace out, - inactive, on 02/22/2009, -29/+321My memory may be a tad hazy, but I certainly don't remember such hysteria after Bush's first month in office.
- apothekari, on 02/22/2009, -69/+297yeah well, I for one refuse to let these "bubba militants" do jack, but join the evolutionary dead end they've fashioned for themselves. You say I can have your gun when I pry it from your cold dead hand?
whatever.
There aren't enough bullets in the world to stop free thought *****.
Ideas are bulletproof.
Thought does not burn. - omenmedia, on 02/22/2009, -13/+181Surely you're not suggesting that Fox News has a republican bias?
- FlaG8r, on 02/22/2009, -33/+193I've never seen the crazies as inflamed as they appear to be right now. What happened in the '90s was neither as intense or overt as what we are seeing today. A black man in the White House has blown these people's minds.
Sadly I think the rest of us need to be equipped and prepared for the action these folks are planning. - thejimmyo, on 02/22/2009, -34/+179More Glenn Beck:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-vi ...
This guy is clearly unstable and unhinged. - Phylter, on 02/22/2009, -42/+173Chimps with guns, howling and flinging feces because they haven't got their way.
- poopsybythebay, on 02/22/2009, -23/+143What they need to understand is that a whole bunch of us "free thought individuals" and may I add the term critical thinkers have guns as well. The last time I checked they had not cornered the market on arsenal supply. Glenn has already been run off from CNN for bad ratings with a clear unknown coming in his old slot and beating the pants off of him--let's hope and pray they wind up running him off from FOX--he is clearly a crackpot of epic proportions.
- hillkiwi, on 02/22/2009, -24/+120Is it just me or is Fox and followers not interested in democracy, but would rather have one good christian republican for their leader for life?
- baggler, on 02/23/2009, -9/+95If you are suggesting that this financial crisis that started during bush's final term is Obama's doing then you are a moron.
- thejimmyo, on 02/22/2009, -6/+89@freedomjoe: "Why aren't we more like Europe in how we govern hate speech and criminal incitement?"
Because we have the protection of the First Amendment (which is a good thing). Crazy as Beck is, he is perfectly within his rights to engage in paranoid hypotheticals. As far as incitement goes, this is a far cry from the kind of "criminal incitement" that can be punished (see Brandenburg v. Ohio for more on "incitement"). There is no threat of imminent harm coming from Beck, and we don't want the gov't to have too much leeway in prohibiting inflammatory speech (even though Beck is clearly unhinged). - whatthefu, on 02/22/2009, -12/+94Didn't you know? Government and democracy is only great when it favors the Republican Party.
- SQLserver, on 02/22/2009, -14/+88Beck gets insaner every minute. For christ's sake, in this interview he claims that "Every American should go see Expelled" and that "If the New York Times hated it, you're going to love it". It results in a completely bat ***** insane interview with Ben Stein...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbdMbSLfb4&fea ...
This guy is every bit as insane as Bill O'Reilly. - blindhammer, on 02/22/2009, -4/+7690 percent of the nation's pineapples! Let's get this thing rolling!
- fiatjustitia, on 02/22/2009, -8/+64"Sadly I think the rest of us need to be equipped and prepared for the action these folks are planning."
I'm getting closer to this line of thought. I live in a region where a lot of extreme right wing attitudes prevail, and what does this mean for me as a loyal American? Are they going to shoot me too because I won't go along with their "revolt"? What about my family? Are these nut-job bubbas planning on going after my parents? My friends?
These are the hard questions that all of us need to ask ourselves. - thejimmyo, on 02/22/2009, -21/+77I wish Beck the best in his personal life. Nonetheless, he is clearly a paranoid and disturbed individual today, frequently using overblown Nazi analogies, talking about the End of Days, and speculating about bizarre armed revolts against the government.
If anything, I think that his past emotional troubles are a mitigating circumstance and that we shouldn't think that he's a *vicious* person, so much as a guy who has had a rough life (but somehow got a national platform on which to say paranoid crazy things, and rile up other crazy paranoid people -- which I think is a very bad thing). - Firstdaughter, on 02/22/2009, -7/+62homer I wish you could find the reference, that is priceless :)
- Dinsdale77, on 02/22/2009, -18/+70Wow Glen, is it going to be like when the world ended because of the New Deal?
- seweso, on 02/23/2009, -22/+73I think you should be a bit more afraid. This can go very wrong, do not underestimate what is happening!
In the Netherlands we had a politician Pim Fortuyn, he was going to win big time. But the established parties portrait him as something like the anti christ.
Pim Fortuyn is now very much a dead guy.
Fox news is a very dangerous network. They preach hate. That should be illegal!
Stop them before it is to late! - AgeofMastery, on 02/22/2009, -14/+64Indeed many "liberals" own guns. The difference is they don't tend to beat their chest and scream "Look at me, I have enough weapons for a small army" like so many on the far right do.
We just take ours and go hunting, target shooting or whatever and don't make a big deal out of it. - eadint, on 02/23/2009, -16/+64I am a Democrat and a patriot.
If I saw these people marching on our government i would be the first to volunteer into the federal army and fight them with everything i have. i do not consider active military confrontation patriotic in a country where we have elections every 4 years, and we clearly live in a democracy, this is how tyrants gain power, they get enough nutjobs with guns and hope that the majority of the people stay quiet and out of the way.
in my opinion FOX news is yelling fire in a theatre, it is irresponcible and criminal at best. - Swivelstick, on 02/23/2009, -6/+52No just his last days in office,
- PatrickBrown, on 02/23/2009, -6/+50I know, it was delayed a few months and then lasted throughout his Presidency, only to be passed onto the next President.
Everyone's actual income during the Bush Presidency dropped with the exception of the top few percent. Mission Accomplished! - thejimmyo, on 02/22/2009, -14/+58Even "Little Green Footballs" thinks that Beck is being a bit paranoid and "irresponsible" with his bizarre "survivalist" rant.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32854_Glen ... - GrandmaSheila, on 02/22/2009, -30/+74Since loosing all credibility, such as they had left, in the past elections, the repthugs now plot treason, and Beck is clearly outlining their intentions with these "let's pretend" war game scenarios, just to get the inbred rabble thinkin'. So they've been spreading the "Obama is comin' for your guns" lie, among a thousand others, demanding "states rights", only they call it "state sovereignty", and now they discuss sedition and rebellion, just for fun. It's like 1856 all over again.
But what they want is the destruction of the Union, and that makes them traitors, and rebels.
No surprise for the regional party of confederate traitors - ironhide, on 02/22/2009, -13/+56People like Beck are good at straddling the line. They couch their inflammatory statements in "hypotheticals", with a "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" attitude.
Great article - I loved the Hofstadter quote.
"The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millenialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse. (“Time is running out,” said Welch in 1951. “Evidence is piling up on many sides and from many sources that October 1952 is the fatal month when Stalin will attack.”)"
Sound like any nuts we know? - Maddoktor2, on 02/22/2009, -22/+65http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/beepaj/wi ...
- Nodaki, on 02/22/2009, -21/+63Greenwald's article does make a very good point about the milita movement of the 80s and 90s. They disappeared after 9/11 happened. When we needed a reactionary bunch of wackos the most is when they deserted their post.
- lisaatucla, on 02/23/2009, -7/+49Have three firearms and a shotgun. Believe in fiscal responsibility and small gov't. That's why I voted for Obama. The NeoCons are not true conservatives.
- Zarokima, on 02/23/2009, -4/+45As a southerner, I would like to apologize on behalf of all the others too stupid to recognize they should be apologizing and improving themselves. We're not all like x252 here, though the majority is. Please don't forget about the intelligent minority.
- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -5/+45this would be a legitimate point if we weren't comparing a MAINSTREAM news media source with some neglected, blockhead 16 year olds on youtube.
Yes, we can always expect this insanity in the gutter, but this is just embarrassing. I understand that there's profit to be made from this kind of entertainment, but by Ghod, I don't know how some of these 'journalists' sleep at night. - RNAPolymerase, on 02/23/2009, -12/+51There is a difference between freedom of speech and basically advocating treason.
- ChristianMagic, on 02/23/2009, -2/+40"You should be hung as a traitor. "
Really? So he should be killed for SAYING he doesn't believe in total free speech? - inactive, on 02/23/2009, -13/+50these days I think Fox is satirizing itself.
But then again, I remind myself that the average IQ is (and always will be) 100 and that (and the also oft-neglected 10 points below) presents a prime market that legitimate media has had a gentleman's agreement to ignore....until now.
This is like watching insane public access TV, only dolled up to suggest legitimacy. - inactive, on 02/22/2009, -15/+50"You think we're crazy"
Yes. - themanflounders, on 02/23/2009, -2/+36It makes me sad to see people splitting our amazing country up with this "us vs. them" mentality. No doubt about it, the conservative movement is largely responsible, but this garbage which is nothing more than regionalism can do only harm. It's funny, and I'm sure it's all in good fun, but the hate that people from the Southeast and "Middle America" get from "blue" areas of the country for their accents or for their states' histories is shameful. I spent some time in Southern California and was asked constantly about the "slaves I owned" or whether or not my family lived in a trailer. When Dr. King said to judge others by the content of their character, I'm sure he meant it. I was born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana and have spent most of my life on the gulf coast. I love my city, I love my state, and I love my country. I'm more liberal than anyone I know, really, and I am working and working and working with everything I have to rise the Southeast up out of a heritage of poverty and poor education that began long before the Civil War. This country is only as strong as the pieces that make it up. Happy Mardi Gras.
- mrfreeziexp, on 02/23/2009, -16/+49I really hope the Secret Service is on the top of their game. Fox news is riling the crazies that would attempt assassination. Also, when I look into Glenn Beck's eyes, I see a crazy man.
- Asromeburns, on 02/23/2009, -11/+44I'm sorry you want to govern speech? ***** you.
- poopsybythebay, on 02/23/2009, -19/+51Where will I be when your delusional martial law happens? As far away from you crazy MF's as I can get. Do you guys just hate black people so much that the fact that Obama is President is making you lose your freakin minds? I've lived in Alabama all of my life and there are some really smart decent people here, but I have seen recently how unhinged some of my brethren can be and I must say it is very disconcerting. I actually have a man who lives next door to me and his name is and I swear--Bubba--he has a fit when my other neighbor (who is from Colorado) and I talk about Obama. She loves him as do I and we were so happy when he was elected and Bubba was furious. It is inexplicable--his reasoning is so deranged it is hard to get through to him. Then there are other people who are in our family (all Republicans) who have completely changed their mind and wished they had voted for him and will probably never vote Republican again.
- SatoriSeeker, on 02/23/2009, -7/+37Pretty sure he's talking about the fact that everyone still seeing red team and blue team doesn't understand what's going on. They are both heads of the same statist ruling class. You really have to leave your labels at the door if you want to have free thought, don't stay in the box the media paints for you. The government is not your friend. This means both major parties no matter what their rhetoric is; you have to look only at their votes and actions. Both parties have consistently grown the federal government at the expense of our personal liberty. There a handful (< 10) good congress people but that doesn't change the facts.
- rburgess3, on 02/23/2009, -7/+37"We'll continue to believe healthcare
is a luxury and not a right."
That pretty much sums up why Cons are too stupid to let live except in nice padded rooms, medicated up to their eyeballs. - alexsk8ca, on 02/23/2009, -6/+36How about both, neither care about the constitution. Why do people think that if someone dislikes the dems they like the reps? There are a whole lot of people who dislike both your favourite "teams". People need to stop treating politics like sports and start standing for what's right not who's wearing what colour.
- atexisthatbest, on 02/23/2009, -7/+37Obama represents the same. I'm a political atheist by the way...
Maybe you can tell me why states like Texas, New Hampshire and all over America have introduced legislation declaring sovereignty in drastic times like martial law? - kromem, on 02/23/2009, -8/+38Great article, very well written and articulate.
- apg63v2, on 02/23/2009, -6/+35I am suggesting that and stop calling me Shirley. Sorry had to be said.
- redfan, on 02/23/2009, -5/+34I was thrilled when Beck left CNN so that I wouldn't have to watch his idiotic ramblings while at the gym.
- goldflies, on 02/23/2009, -13/+41What an endless list of hypothetical in this piece. These guys are nuts and are in deep, deep denial. The offer zero, nada, no solutions - only destructive rhetoric. And the next piece.. "where does God fit in all of this".... if there is a god he is tired of the false siding with god fantasy of the neo-cons.
Face it, their failed view lost the election. All the rest is just verbal crap. IMHO. - twiztidsinz, on 02/23/2009, -13/+41"So just submit to a tyrannical government that disregards the very document they were sworn to protect? I think not... Wake up!"
You're talking about Bush right? - freedomjoe, on 02/22/2009, -8/+35oh, yeah, the bells were a ring ring ringing.
Psychologists say that the conservative mindset is one which is more reactionary to fear, more fear-based. I've been thinking about that a lot as I read their comments here and deal with them in the real world. Beneath every bully is a victim, etc. -
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