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- native, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Well I don't know about Don King, but Richard Simmons is from New Orleans and I think he still lives here.
- helix400, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28I don't see where Fox News called them "experts". It sounds like Fox News is just being their usual tabloid like news, and interviewing a couple of high profile celebrities for their opinions. Kind of like the guy-on-the-street interview for opinons, except now it's the crazy-celebrities-on-the-street interview.
Marked inaccurate for thinkprogress.org streching the story and calling them "experts" when they provided no proof that they were ever labeled as such. - catullus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31that'd be clever, except "faux" is pronounced "FOE" so it doesnt really work
- helix400, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Huh, this comment caught my eye:
"Look, don’t know about Don King, but I saw the Simmons piece by chance. The guy grew up in the French quarter, his brother lost his house and Simmons bought him a new one. He was on the verge of tears in the interview and closed it being critical of Bush and the relief efforts. Everyone should be careful (including TP) with assuming something on the basis of a news appearance." - Dradis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Was?
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Laughing at bad jokes != a sense of humor
- priceless721, on 10/12/2007, -20/+30this is why we have john stewart and steve colbert
- techbum, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22I wonder if the author (Amanda) even saw the segment? She didn't mention that Cavuto also interviewed LtGen Honore (you know, the guy who took control of the situation when the Mayor and the Governor couldn't handle it - definitely a Katrina "expert"), and the CEO for Harrah's Casinos (not a Katrina expert). I guess that Amanda just thought that her editing of the news made the story more interesting and understandable for her readers. What would we do without her brain to think for us and filter out what we don't need to know? Thanks Amanda!
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11How is this different from talking to all the other "stars" from Louisiana? This is not really news at all.
Brittany Spears...now there is an expert for you.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-02-28-spears-new-orleans_x.htm - rebrane, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Fox News didn't call them experts, ThinkProgress did. But you're right, it was tongue-in-cheek!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"You know... there was once a time when news was impartial"
No, no, no, no, NO!
There has never been a time when the news was completely objective and honest.
There has never been a time when politicians didn't get elected by appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Just be glad we live in an age when with a few taps on the keyboard and clicks on the mouse, any number of cross references and different sources for information can be used to allow you to validate a story.
Things are no worse now, there are just many more people connected to eachother who are letting the others know about the horrid stupidity of the world around them.
To stay relevant i'll add i hate the FOX news propoganda as much as the next guy with an IQ more than a glass of water, but it only appears worse now because YOU are so much better informed than you would have been before the internet and advanced digital communication came along. - szelij, on 10/12/2007, -15/+23Well given the standard that Fox "News" has been setting, perhaps they should ask the President about string theory.
- 13tongimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yep, he is a proud son of the Crescent City.
I don't know about Don though. - Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -15/+22Um, where on the screen does it say they are "experts" like implied?
INACCURATE.
Richard Simmons is obviously from the area, and Don King is just giving his opinion.
Again, maybe ThinkProgress should stop being so biased, and start to ThinkForOnce. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17From merriam webster
Fox(v): to trick by ingenuity or cunning
i think the name fits as it - danlemire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just remember, always consider the biases that come with any source of news. Cable, broadcast, blog or otherwise, everyone has bias. It's merely a matter of how much bias in involved, and what the underlying agenda is.
- shawnfassett, on 10/12/2007, -25/+29Saw this on Think Progress...Fox "News" just keeps getting weirder and weirder. I'm sad to say my mom watches this crap.
http://people.tribe.net/shawnfassett/blog - Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Such as what? Year old stories about Abu Grahb?
- spjmm0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They were never called experts. Simmons grew up there. Dumbass
- helix400, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Thanks for the video, I was looking for one!
The video only covers Don King. And, it had no mention of him being an "expert" (at least not that I heard). I did see them labelling him as a Boxing Promoter though. Looks like the inaccurate label sticks for this Digg story. - mojoel, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14except without the ingenuity or cunning part
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I really didn't watch those segments. But ThinkProgress.com doesn't have a clip of it. So we're just taking their word for it....
So how does it feel to blindy follow ThinkProgress.com? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They must have cut the segment where they interviewed David Hasselhoff.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'd say it's better than NBC News last night. Brought George W Bush down there to interview him about Katrina. Their second question, they blindsided him with questions about Iraq. Way to stay on topic guys.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How much time did those two interviews take during the two segments? Were there any other guests on the show during those segments?
ThinkProgress.com doesn't really answer those questions...and I think I know why.... - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11@szelij
Amazing that Fox gets crap for innacurate reporting, especially considering all of the staged news in the Mideast that is condoned and reported by the MSM. - boonesfarm, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Fox News leans right. I agree. Do you think CNN plays it down the middle? How about "thinkprogress.org"?
Also, I'm guessing the reference to Don King and Richard Simmons as Katrina experts was tongue-in-cheek. But, don't let that stop you "progressives" from seething about FNC. - ToxicBomber, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8@Jaymoon
Have you actually watched the segment? I thought it was merely a joke because of how ridiculous it was...but no in fact the segment is real and he mentions the word "experts" when referring to them...experts on the impact its had on the nation as a whole...not technical analysts or experts on the disaster...but still, WTF?
Simmons lives in LA for crying out loud, what the hell does he know about the impact that Katrina had on that area? Jack-and-*****...that's what.
Don King?...."ONLY IN AMERICA!!"....could this man been seen as having anything of value to be said about the impact this has had on real people...when in fact he is as out of touch with its real impact as any other celebrity. He might have family affected...but that makes him no victim let alone an "expert".
Fox News....just die already, please! - Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Wow, I can't believe people are latching on to that "Faux News" joke so tightly. It's kinda sad that people who think they're smart because they don't watch Fox News don't seem to understand why that joke doesn't work. The IQ of America's youth appears to be continuing its steady decline...
- network, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4wikipedia….
Fox News currently leads the cable news market, earning higher points ratings than its chief competitors CNN and MSNBC combined by average viewership.
In 2004, the gain in ratings became more apparent. In September, Fox News Channel’s ratings for its broadcast of the Republican National Convention beat those of all three broadcast networks. During President Bush’s address, Fox News notched 7.3 million viewers nationally, while NBC, CBS, and ABC scored ratings of 5.9, 5.0, and 5.1, respectively.
In the wake of the North Korean Missile Crisis and Israel’s fight with Lebanon, Fox saw a surge in viewership and managed to easily remain the #1 rated cable news channel.[6] [7] Fox still held eight of the ten most-watched nightly cable news shows, with The O’Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes coming in first and second places, respectively. .[8]
In July 2006, Fox had the 55 top rated programs on cable news. The first non-Fox show to appear on the list was number 56, Larry King Live - glguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Are you trying to say that the domain name should be ThinkForYou.com? ThinkLotsLess.com?
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Exactly boonesfarm.
ThinkProgress is critical of Fox News for being biased.
Have they even taken a look at their own website at all? - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2BringMeTheFactsPlease.com
- KanosWRX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Did anyone notice how all the news agency's were covering Tropical Storm Ernesto like it was Katrina 2. Seriously I lived in Gulfport MS for 5 years, which got devistated by Katrina. I really don't see why they even bothered talking about Ernesto, and how everyone is getting prepared for it or evacuating. I would be sitting out on my porch during a storm like that. Worst of all at my work they have TV's playing Fox news all day, I get so sick of it. I make fun of it half the time.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2political commentary is only allowed on the internet and Comedy Central...not any 'news' channels....duh! /sarcasm
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ummm, doesn't Neil Cavuto run a commentary show and not an actual news broadcast?
- VinceNoir, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8@helix400
You know... there was once a time when news was impartial. Before the media was owned by megabusinesses with profit axes to grind... You could actually listen, watch or read news without worrying much about corporate bias. You'd get the real stories. Sure it wasn't perfect, as there were the occasional pieces that weren't totally reliable. But the problem wasn't as frequent. Now, you basically have to go interview the people being interviewed yourself if you want their side of the story and there's still no guarantee that it's the truth as they are likely to be biased themselves. At least in the past you would rely on relatively decent news. Now you can't trust anyone unless you want to take a side as it's ALL political. Sorry, but I think news, like politics and business is severely broken and has been gamed by the wealthy. Anyone who disagrees with this sentiment is being willfully ignorant. Even though I tend to lean more to the left and tend to vote Democrat, I can't honestly say that the left and the Democrats are spotless. They have their biases and are prone to corruption just as much as the right and the Republicans are. And the ***** libertarian politicians wouldn't be much better. (Note I made a distinction between voter and politician when refering to libertarians. There is a very big difference between a voter and politician, but that gets lost in the right vs. left vs. other arguments). So... in short, it's all *****. - 13tongimp, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Crooks and Liars has the vid available for download:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/30/neil-cavuto-calls-in-the-experts-on-katrina/ - CodyZ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Isn't Fox News against Richard Simmons' lifestyle?
- chase001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fox was supposed to have crazy cat lady and Ralphie from the Simpsons on but they cancelled atr the last minute.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5http://digg.com/politics/Fox_News_Ratings_Plummet
Guess they need to start boosting their ratings - AxeSwinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@andrew1193
I don't have the time right now to find the supporting documentation for the instances I can remember but this link provides good data of Christian Fundamentalist resorting to violence for their cause. It can and does happen some Christian's very bad things extremist Muslims hold no monopoly on the use of violence or extreme actions we would be better off if Americans realized that.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm - solowCX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7He "was" insane until he mysteriously died and his brain was implanted in a replica robot body. Now he is just buggy.
- rebrane, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I said the only black guy they could find, not the only black guy there was.
- MyKindaSpam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a non-story. Richard Simmons is a life-long resident and King was brought on as a celebrity commentator. If by asking these two celebrities to comment on Katrina, one of whom lives in NO and the other a partisan cheerleader with a project to promote, means that the network is idiotic or doesn't do real news, then ALL of the media is in the same boat, including AAR, NPR, CBS--even PBS works theses types in.
NBC's "Today Show" does the same thing, but they are worse than Fox, because they actually devote multiple, earnestly-deadpan segments to ask Angelina Jolie how to end famine and poverty in Africa and Brad Pitt how to design ecologically-efficient yet economical housing in New Orleans with a straight face. At least Cavuto had fun with both the segment and the guests and didn't pretend that they were serious commentators. - MyKindaSpam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+113tongimp says, "Fox News division is run by Roger Ailes who worked for Nixon, Reagan, and Bush (41). If that isn't being in the GOP camp, I don't know what is."
What does that say about Chris Mathews who worked for Carter, Stephanopoulos who worked for Clinton, Russert worked for Cuomo and Moynihan, Meredith Viera and her husband, Richard Cohen, who was a senior political producer at CBS during the 80's marched in an anti-Bush/anti-war protest, Katie Couric--well, I refuse to classify her as a "news" reporter, Dan Rather raised money for a Dem Party in TX, Richard Stengle's (Time magazine's managing editor),former boss and idol was Bill Bradley and the list goes on.
Those are just the obvious examples that I thought of without much effort. How much of the staff, executives, journalists and other influential members of the media are "in the Democratic camp?" A Pew poll found that 34% of reporters self-identified as "liberal." Only 7% self-identified as "conservative."
To dispell the claims of bad data, just a quick quiz will back up these numbers. How many reporters accurately noted that the discussion was about ILLEGAL immigration not just "immigration?" If they disapproved of the term "illegal," they could have noted the difference by using "undocumented" immigration, but they didn't. How often were La Raza and MeCHA identified as "left-wing" or "ultra-liberal" the way the Center for Immigration Studies and the Heritage Foundation were IDed as "right-wing" and "ultra-conservative?" How likely is it that a former intern for Ronald Reagan would anchor the NBC Nightly News, as does former Carter intern, Brian Williams? For every former Cheney staffer, Pete Williams, there are tens of Brian Williams' in the media. - Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh good gawd.
It's only TV, people. It's for entertainment, not for fact finding.
Watching people argue about what's on the tellyvision is like watching two mongoloids fight over a red crayon. - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Amazing! Who's next....'School Bus' Nagin?!!
- JPOGDNA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Exactly what does it take to be a Katrina expert? Do you know?
- glguy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5That's an awfully insulting generalization to make about a whole race of people...
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