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- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -8/+9You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
Apart from the Armenian Holocaust, there were never so many to die violently for their religion than the Jews in WW2 in recent history. In human history, more humans have died violently for their BELIEF in a god, gods or none than other cause. Belief in something for which there is no proof, but complete trust. If the Jews that survived the Holocaust have no belief in the right of all to have a belief in a god then those Jews are SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust. Their deaths can only have meaning if you defend the right of all Jews and OTHERS to believe in their god.
The right to believe in no god is as important a right as those that do. I believe in the equality of ALL. That I don't believe in any god doesn't lessen my right to my non-belief or my duty to defend those that do believe in their god. Should I only defend the right of those with a Christian belief, or a Jewish belief, but not a Muslim belief?
Can the rat pack member truly believe that the tears of Gentiles for the Jewish dead of the Holocaust are but crocodile tears? Am I less human because I don't believe in his god or any god? Why is his god special above all other gods? Is the god of hate and retribution superior to gods of love? I may disagree with his concept of a god but still defend his right to believe in his god. Why must I be for or against but not neutral?
So if I'm no longer a believing Christian then I cannot defend a deliberate insult to the Christian faith, as another rat pack member would argue? They've been so used to insulting Islam that insulting Christians and Jesus Christ is but a small step.
@ Cointelproagen says ..."Here in the US where I live, we are free to insult anyone's god. So ***** your god Hitler or whoever you pray to."
Yet, if you say anything against Jews or their world, the ADL or their ilk are after you with anti-Semitic charges. When was the last anti-Muslin or anti-Christian charge.
It is this extraordinary twisted logic that is the kernel of the difficulties that America faces today. Another rat pack member believes that Islamophobia commenced there after 9/11. I believe that the neoconservatives were working at stirring up hatred of Arabs and Muslims long before 9/11. To be pro-Israel, hatred of its opponents was required and dictated US foreign policy.
If we accept the official version of 9/11, then a tiny band of zealots pulled off the most extraordinary American holocaust under the noses of the entire American security system! And for that the whole Muslim world is to blame?!!! What if the official version is untrue? What if friends of the dancing Zionists did it, or controlled who did it, or could have prevented it?!!! Obviously YOU WOULD INVADE ISRAEL, just like Afghanistan and Iraq!!! Was the Iraq invasion not a religious war to justify the removal of one man?!!! I keep asking why not a Mossad assassins bullet to "rid me of this meddlesome priest" on this occasion, unless regime change was never the Zionist agenda, ever. Answer?! Think of all those young true Americans - from the Marshall Islands, to the Blacks, to the Latinos, to the poor Whites, on thought to the opposite extreme to the minute number of Zionist - who died for the Zionist agenda abroad in Iraq. How many of the rat pack have served in the US forces? More than served in the IDF?!!!
Yes, I'm the anti-Zionist. Why so fervently if I'm so happy with my own life? Hypocrisy, I guess! The constant denigration of all things Muslim or Arab in the Zionist controlled US media. All part of the Islamophobia agenda. Yet, far odder events happen in Israel that are seldom reported in the US. Why this double standard? To match the double loyalties? Should I continue my mission or cease? Zionist need not respond.
@ Monsieurginger says"Your are not ..., your concerns are misplaced. "I am that I am" is a retard. You see, here, I insulted my own god which I don't believe in. Anyway, I thought jesus wasn't a god".
As usual, there's not much that I understand of the triple-loyalty challenged cretin child, so that I normally just block him but here, not only would he not use Jesus, but he goes much further with his INSULT to Christians with his cheap shot denial of Jesus being god, or the son of god to be accurate. If he chooses to insult his own god is his business, if both childish and stupid but deliberating insulting the Christian god is every Christian's business. That's how is constantly if you are Muslim. In America, you are so used to it that you don't see it.
@ Thenwo says "We have a reason to be concerned about fundamentalist Muslims, ...dangerous when compared with the fundamentalist Muslims, who are more interested in death and Sharia."
He makes some attempt at a rational argument, but it's of the 'my dick is bigger that your dick' style of argument as to the violence of one holy book as against the other. I've not read the Qur'an so I cannot compare. I have read the old testament as a child and don't think I am yet over the trauma of its violence. Not until I read Leon Uris did I encounter such murder and mayhem. Of course it was Arabs doing the dying then too at Zionist hands.
@Dkapuchino says ... "As for your absurd claims of genocide, wanna take a guess who's #10 in the world in population GROWTH? That's right, the palestinians."
There may be two reasons for this. First is the rate of slow genocide in practice by the population obsessed Zionist is just less than the Palestinian ability to replace the dead children, so check how many dead Palestinian children there are. Second is that all humans respond to disasters, man make or natural, by increasing their birth rate. An explanation as to why the Zionist population is not increasing at the rate of import of instant citizens, the dubious settlers to steal Arab land with the convenience of the state, might be a better exercise. How many are making use of the duel citizenship Zionist to escape state-side to bring there hate filled message to unsuspecting Christian Americans? How many of them have Russian criminal backgrounds?
Please cease and desist from SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust.- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+8RightHand - Stop pretending to care for Jews. It is clear what you are. Stop the crocodile tears.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+3You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
Can the rat pack member truly believe that the tears of Gentiles for the Jewish dead of the Holocaust are but crocodile tears? Am I less human because I don't believe in his god or any god? Why is his god special above all other gods? Is the god of hate and retribution superior to gods of love? I may disagree with his concept of a god but still defend his right to believe in his god. Why must I be for or against but not neutral?
So if I'm no longer a believing Christian then I cannot defend a deliberate insult to the Christian faith, as another rat pack member would argue? They've been so used to insulting Islam that insulting Christians and Jesus Christ is but a small step.
@ Cointelproagen says ..."Here in the US where I live, we are free to insult anyone's god. So ***** your god Hitler or whoever you pray to."
Yet, if you say anything against Jews or their world, the ADL or their ilk are after you with anti-Semitic charges. When was the last anti-Muslin or anti-Christian charge.
You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust. - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -1/+6RightHand - please refer to my earlier response to you. Have a groovy day.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+3You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
- monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -4/+8I still don't see how I insulted christians.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+4You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
@ Monsieurginger says"Your are not ..., your concerns are misplaced. "I am that I am" is a retard. You see, here, I insulted my own god which I don't believe in. Anyway, I thought jesus wasn't a god".
As usual, there's not much that I understand of the triple-loyalty challenged cretin child, so that I normally just block him but here, not only would he not use Jesus, but he goes much further with his INSULT to Christians with his cheap shot denial of Jesus being god, or the son of god to be accurate. If he chooses to insult his own god is his business, if both childish and stupid but deliberating insulting the Christian god is every Christian's business. That's how is constantly if you are Muslim. In America, you are so used to it that you don't see it.
You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+4You SPIT on the dead of the Jewish Holocaust.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+7RightHand -- You are pathetic.
The Jews did not die because of their religion as you state. It had nothing to do with belief. They died because of their ethnicity! Jews who had converted generations ago, were killed along with the orthodox. This is how Nazi anti-Semitism differed from traditional, European anti-Semitism. It was blood based, rather than belief based. Previously, a Jew could convert and become okay. Under Nazi anti-Semitism, they couldn't. But you have been told this, numerous times, yet you cling to your outmoded “blood” like beliefs, such as considering Arabs, Jews, Scots and Welsh separate raced. (Read “Why The Jews” by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin for a good, simple analysis of anti=Semitism.) At least you admit that there was a genocide.
As for your statement, “If the Jews that survived the Holocaust have no belief in the right of all to have a belief in a god then those Jews are SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust. Their deaths can only have meaning if you defend the right of all Jews and OTHERS to believe in their god.” How you came up with the notion that Jews oppose the rights of all to believe what they want is beyond comprehension.
Your statement “ I believe in the equality of ALL.” is absurd, based on the vile comments you have made. Do you think that people who have seen your comments will believe you? You are carrying on like an immature child who has been reprimanded and is now apologizing. The record is clear. You are a very intolerant person.
You write: “That I don't believe in any god doesn't lessen my right to my non-belief or my duty to defend those that do believe in their god. Should I only defend the right of those with a Christian belief, or a Jewish belief, but not a Muslim belief?” (A) No one has mocked or attacked your non-belief. (B) You are not a believer, as you state on your profile page. Don’t profess to defend people for beliefs that you do not hold. No one is attacking anyone’s right to believe what they choose.
You write: “Can the rat pack member ...” Here come the names again. I don’t presume to answer for rat pack members. I am not a member of a rat pack. Go ask one.
“Am I less human because I don't believe in his god or any god?” - What is this, “The Merchant of Venice, by Shakespeare? “If you prick us, do we not bleed?”
“Why is his god special above all other gods? Is the god of hate and retribution superior to gods of love? I may disagree with his concept of a god but still defend his right to believe in his god.” -- I am not going to discuss theology with you. “god of hate and retribution ... gods of love ...” Nice way to frame the issue, but I’m not going for your bait. Go read a book on comparative theology. And the God of the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims are the same God.
“So if I'm no longer a believing Christian then I cannot defend a deliberate insult to the Christian faith, as another rat pack member would argue? They've been so used to insulting Islam that insulting Christians and Jesus Christ is but a small step.” Who are you talking about? Stop your “blunderbuss attacks” and be specific.
@ Cointelproagen says ..."Here in the US where I live, we are free to insult anyone's god. So ***** your god Hitler or whoever you pray to." Ask Cointelproagent what he meant. It is clear to me. He is talking to YOU in specific, not the Irish people, or anyone else. YOU.
“Yet, if you say anything against Jews or their world, the ADL or their ilk are after you with anti-Semitic charges. When was the last anti-Muslin or anti-Christian charge.” - You are reverting into incoherence. You can say things against Jews or the “ADL or their ilk” (“ilk” - another endearing term of yours) without being an anti-Semite. But it is clear when the line has been crossed. And that line has been crossed by you long ago. I am comfortable in calling you an anti-Semite, which is a term that isn’t tossed off freely.
“It is this extraordinary twisted logic that is the kernel of the difficulties that America faces today.” - What would you know about that? Is County Dublin a part of America these days? Or are you one of these people who believe that national borders are irrelevant?
“To be pro-Israel, hatred of its opponents was required and dictated US foreign policy.” -- You are a fool.
Now you become incoherent. “Dancing Zionists?”
“Was the Iraq invasion not a religious war to justify the removal of one man?!!!” - A religious war? What?
“I keep asking why not a Mossad assassins bullet to "rid me of this meddlesome priest" on this occasion, unless regime change was never the Zionist agenda, ever. Answer?!” -- Here is the answer. I don’t know “why not a Mossad assassins bullet to "rid me of this meddlesome priest" on this occasion.” Do you think that the Mossad checks with me?
“Think of all those young true Americans - from the Marshall Islands, to the Blacks, to the Latinos, to the poor Whites, on thought to the opposite extreme to the minute number of Zionist - who died for the Zionist agenda abroad in Iraq.” -- This makes no sense.
When you say “the rat pack” do you mean Jews? I don’t know how many Jews have served in the US forces. I don’t think the US keeps statistics on religion of their members. Would you prefer that the US did? “J” on passports or something like that?
“More than served in the IDF?!!!” -- probably. But I don’t have the figures. Why don’t you look it up on Wikipedia or on Google?
“double loyalties” - again with that?
“Should I continue my mission or cease? Zionist need not respond.” -- Oh yes! Please continue. Please!!!
@ Monsieurginger says" Your are not ..., your concerns are misplaced. "I am that I am" is a retard. You see, here, I insulted my own god which I don't believe in. Anyway, I thought jesus wasn't a god". As usual, there's not much that I understand of the triple-loyalty challenged cretin child, so that I normally just block him but here, not only would he not use Jesus, but he goes much further with his INSULT to Christians with his cheap shot denial of Jesus being god, or the son of god to be accurate.” You are too incoherent here to answer. I don’t see an insult to Christians there, but what do I know about what they may see as a Christian? I’m not a Christian, so I don’t presume to know what insults them. “Triple-loyalty challenged cretin child ...” Nice bit of name calling there, Rob. The more names you call, the more foolish you look, so keep it up. The more you allude to mons and I being the same, the more foolish you look, so keep it up.
“If he chooses to insult his own god is his business, if both childish and stupid but deliberating insulting the Christian god is every Christian's business. That's how is constantly if you are Muslim.” Say that again, please. Slowly. I am sure it is my stupidity, but I can’t understand.
@ Thenwo says "We have a reason to be concerned about fundamentalist Muslims, ...dangerous when compared with the fundamentalist Muslims, who are more interested in death and Sharia." -- “Thenwo” - I am not familiar with “Thenwo”
“... it's of the 'my dick is bigger that your dick' style of argument ...” -- You were on about “circumcised penises the other day” and also about “eunuchs” and “third kinds”. I think you have some “issues” in the regard of genitals, but I may be wrong. This might be your way of being intelligent.
“I have read the old testament as a child and don't think I am yet over the trauma of its violence. Not until I read Leon Uris did I encounter such murder and mayhem.” -- This is so laughable I almost lost control of my bodily functions. Get over it already. This is a notable quote. Put that on your profile page.
“Please cease and desist from SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust.” Okay, I will. Sorry to have offended your sensitive nature.
Thank you for getting out of my fans list. There is no way in hell (ooops - was that an insult to believers?) that I would befriend you -- so please stop with the flowers and candy.
Have a nice day, and look out for the cerebrum munching chipmunks,
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- inactive, on 09/22/2008, -2/+3Call your doctor and have your meds adjusted. Oooops. Sorry Bernk1, clicked the wrong prompt, that was for RightHand.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -7/+8RightHand - Stop pretending to care for Jews. It is clear what you are. Stop the crocodile tears.
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