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- Indyanna, on 09/20/2008, -1/+18Re: the first quote from David McCullough's book "John Adams" - if you've never read it, do yourself a favor, and get hold of a copy. I can't recommend it highly enough. I learned so much and loved every minute of it.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -3/+18Usury is unethical and should be illegal. It has never helped anyone but those who don't need any (unless perhaps they could potentially benefit from a good mental hospital and behavior modification, nah, you can't help a sociopath).
- COINTELPROAgent, on 09/20/2008, -3/+14Another "coincidence": a Jewish banker financed the American Revolution. Of course, America is the center of the worldwide Jewish banking conspiracy, everybody knows that...
- inactive, on 09/20/2008, -3/+14Another cesspool to wade in. Check your history. The Christians were not allowed to go into moneylending, then death of a creditor cancelled the debt. Figure out what happened next.
- dkapuchino, on 09/20/2008, -6/+16So, Mossad killed jesus, Jews did 9/11, we eat your children's blood on passover, and we've got pointy noses.
One good thing about these posts? they prove you ***** are far from being "anti-israel". You're plain and straight anti-semitic. - monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -2/+12Ahhh, so it like when muslims write muhammed(pbuh).
- monsieurginger, on 09/20/2008, -6/+16"They even had Mossad at the Last Supper!!"
I'm just going to laugh at this one.
"isn't money far more important than god. "
I thought you didn't believe in god? - dkapuchino, on 09/20/2008, -5/+15Ah, yes, us evil Jews controlling the banks and hollywood. Us rodants must have some evil hidden agenda.
As for your absurd claims of genocide, wanna take a guess who's #10 in the world in population GROWTH? That's right, the palestinians. Wanna guess who's way way way down at #184 in annual death rates Oops, palestinians once again. - inactive, on 09/20/2008, -2/+11RightHand - The term for this phony-baloney comment is crocodile tears. So now you are a defender of the faith, huh?
- Catspaw, on 09/20/2008, -8/+17The elite bankers print money and use this to exchange for real assets - it's a scam of gargantuan proportions!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560 ... - monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -2/+11"The Zionist attempts at Islamophobia is the cause of the majority of fear in America and war in the world."
9/11 is the cause of American islamophobia, not zionists. I think a poll came out recently that europeans are more islamaphobic than americans.
"Is behind it also a hatred of Christians, too?"
Explain. I don't know what you are talking about here.
"So, NO MATTER WHOSE GOD YOU BELIEVE IS THE RIGHT ONE OR NONE, YOU DO NOT INSULT ANOTHER PERSON'S GOD, EVER!!!
IF YOU ARE A JEW YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT INSULT THE CHRISTIAN'S BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST!!!"
LOL. If you think writing jews with a little j is an insult to Jews, you very wrong. If you think that when we write jesus with a little j instead of Jesus with a big J is an insult, you are very wrong.
Your are not supposed to insult other people's gods? We argue with our own god all the time. Abraham and Moses did it. Arguing with god gives birth to independent thought. If you are concerned whether people insult your god, your concerns are misplaced. "I am that I am" is a retard. You see, here, I insulted my own god which I don't believe in. Anyway, I thought jesus wasn't a god. And why is it concerning you since you don't believe in god.
On a slightly unrelated topic, why do you call jesus "JESUS CHRIST"? Is "CHRIST" his last name? It always baffled me? Not that giving him a last name is a bad thing, I am just wondering. - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -1/+10Very good book.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+11RIghtHand - Thanks very much with your advice: "IF YOU ARE A JEW YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT INSULT THE CHRISTIAN'S BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST!!!" Jews can figure that out on their own. Don't talk about insulting religious beliefs, you do your share of that. Jews don't need your advice. Nor, do Christians. Nor Muslims.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+10We have a reason to be concerned about fundamentalist Muslims, RightHand. Their holy text is intolerant and violent and there is a dangerously large number of people who take that book literally. Some of these nuts even run oil-rich countries.
The Old Testament (largely comprised of the Torah) is very tame by comparison, but I'm sure you anti-Semites will go along and try to compare it to the Qur'an. Any calls for war in the Old Testament are just specific calls to go to war against specific enemies who no longer exist. The Qur'an calls for war until there is a global Islamic caliphate. Big difference.
It's amazing that you people have actually been able to delude yourselves into thinking such a small group of people who are mostly interested in peace and prosperity are so dangerous when compared with the fundamentalist Muslims, who are more interested in death and Sharia. - dkapuchino, on 09/21/2008, -1/+9Reported for spamming.
- inactive, on 09/20/2008, -2/+10RightHand - The term for this phony-baloney comment is crocodile tears. So now you are a defender of the faith, huh?
- monsieurginger, on 09/20/2008, -5/+13"outright genocide on the part of Israel"
How many Arabs died over the course of 60 years? And does Israel provide any health care and increased the life expectancy of the Palestinians?
""holy war.""
Who ever said that any war Israel fought was a 'holy war'?
"Is that just another coincidence?"
The Jews went into banking because it was forced upon them. They were forbidden from other occupations and a "good christian" isn't supposed to lend to a brother, Jews had to go to banking.
"The banking industry has more Jews than showbiz"
but there are even more jews in science - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+10RightHand - (A) You repeatedly state that you are not a Christian so do not profess to speak for them or to be offended on their behalf. (B) To whom are you addressing this? (C) Please state exactly what you contend is an insult to "ALL [sic] Christians.
And while we are at it, once again, please answer the question that you always avoid: Is the Hebrew Bible (aka “Old Testament”) is THE terrorist book on which the Muslim and Christian faiths sprung as you have alluded to, repeatedly? - COINTELPROAgent, on 09/21/2008, -3/+11Here in the US where I live, we are free to insult anyone's god. So ***** your god Hitler or whoever you pray to.
- quesi, on 09/21/2008, -1/+9beep beep
- inactive, on 09/20/2008, -6/+14RightHand - where did you come up with your "They even had Mossad at the Last Supper!!" statement from? In which of your on-line references did you find that? Was it www.pixies_in_my_cerebrum.com? This exceeds most of your ramblings that I have seen. Crucifixion was a Roman invention, but you know that. What is "a hiding to nothing" that you now, with the benefit of hindsight, mean? Do you make these things up, or is it static that you pick up on your shortwave while trying to tune in The Voice of Neptune?
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+10COIN - You write, that all you could see was "BLAH BLAH BLAH"." BLAH BLAH BLAH is 16th century Gaelic for "pixies are gnawing on my medulla oblongata." So, you mocker, it does make sense.
- COINTELPROAgent, on 09/21/2008, -2/+10So that's what RIghtHand was talking about. I read his comment like 6 times and all I could see was "BLAH BLAH BLAH".
@monsieurginger, it's faster to say than "Jesus the Christ", at least that's what I always figured. - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -3/+11RightHand - I don't think that Dkapuchino directed anything he said to all Christians. I think he directed it to you, but I am not certain. I shall ask him when we meet for the secret meeting on the 5th sub-basement of the Sukkah.
- stonebear, on 09/21/2008, -2/+10HBO has made a miniseries out of it, I believe I'll go for that instead.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -1/+9RightHand - I don't think that Dkapuchino directed anything he said to all Christians. I think he directed it to you, but I am not certain. I shall ask him when we meet for the secret meeting on the 5th sub-basement of the Sukkah.
- monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -2/+9"I would equally defend your right to believe in your religion despite the murder and mayhem that it has brought to the Middle East."
LOL, so apparently Judaism is the cause of mayhem in the Middle East. Is Judaism responsible for the recent bombing in Pakistan also?
"tiny faith"
are you referring to Judaism as tiny as it isn't followed by many relatively or because of some other reason?
"At the moment it's the Muslims. Are the Christians next?"
What the hell are you talking about?
"Have you no cop-on at all? "
What does this mean?
"Are you intent in continuing to INSULT ALL Christians???"
since when writing jesus with a small j instead of Jesus with a capital J an insult?
"IF YOU ARE A JEW YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT INSULT THE CHRISTIAN'S BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST!!!"
You wrote "you most certainly do not insult". To me that seems like you are saying that if you are Jew, it is impossible to insult christian belief in jesus. - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+9RightHand - In the words of the noted American poet Willie Dixon, "Mellow Down Easy!"
- monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -3/+10Someone is going through menopause.
- COINTELPROAgent, on 09/21/2008, -3/+9I'll answer on behalf of reichand: "YOUR COMMENT IS A RED HERRING AND AN INSULT TO HERRING!!!"
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+8RightHand - In the words of the noted American poet Willie Dixon, "Mellow Down Easy!"
- quesi, on 09/21/2008, -4/+9+7 -8, for a score of -1
megaphonies in the hzowse - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -3/+8COINTELPRO - (May I call you COIN) - Please elaborate on exactly what shade of "red" you are referring to. And how do you mean that I am insulting herring. I will have you know that I am both Sephardi and Ashkenazi -- ooops, I mean Bismarck and Maatjes.
- COINTELPROAgent, on 09/21/2008, -3/+8Ha! Maroon, to be exact.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -1/+6fro - Do you mean Thomas Hobbes or Calvin and Hobbes? I think he listens to the voice of killer chipmunks from hell, myself.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+7RightHand -- You are pathetic.
The Jews did not die because of their religion as you state. It had nothing to do with belief. They died because of their ethnicity! Jews who had converted generations ago, were killed along with the orthodox. This is how Nazi anti-Semitism differed from traditional, European anti-Semitism. It was blood based, rather than belief based. Previously, a Jew could convert and become okay. Under Nazi anti-Semitism, they couldn't. But you have been told this, numerous times, yet you cling to your outmoded “blood” like beliefs, such as considering Arabs, Jews, Scots and Welsh separate raced. (Read “Why The Jews” by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin for a good, simple analysis of anti=Semitism.) At least you admit that there was a genocide.
As for your statement, “If the Jews that survived the Holocaust have no belief in the right of all to have a belief in a god then those Jews are SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust. Their deaths can only have meaning if you defend the right of all Jews and OTHERS to believe in their god.” How you came up with the notion that Jews oppose the rights of all to believe what they want is beyond comprehension.
Your statement “ I believe in the equality of ALL.” is absurd, based on the vile comments you have made. Do you think that people who have seen your comments will believe you? You are carrying on like an immature child who has been reprimanded and is now apologizing. The record is clear. You are a very intolerant person.
You write: “That I don't believe in any god doesn't lessen my right to my non-belief or my duty to defend those that do believe in their god. Should I only defend the right of those with a Christian belief, or a Jewish belief, but not a Muslim belief?” (A) No one has mocked or attacked your non-belief. (B) You are not a believer, as you state on your profile page. Don’t profess to defend people for beliefs that you do not hold. No one is attacking anyone’s right to believe what they choose.
You write: “Can the rat pack member ...” Here come the names again. I don’t presume to answer for rat pack members. I am not a member of a rat pack. Go ask one.
“Am I less human because I don't believe in his god or any god?” - What is this, “The Merchant of Venice, by Shakespeare? “If you prick us, do we not bleed?”
“Why is his god special above all other gods? Is the god of hate and retribution superior to gods of love? I may disagree with his concept of a god but still defend his right to believe in his god.” -- I am not going to discuss theology with you. “god of hate and retribution ... gods of love ...” Nice way to frame the issue, but I’m not going for your bait. Go read a book on comparative theology. And the God of the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims are the same God.
“So if I'm no longer a believing Christian then I cannot defend a deliberate insult to the Christian faith, as another rat pack member would argue? They've been so used to insulting Islam that insulting Christians and Jesus Christ is but a small step.” Who are you talking about? Stop your “blunderbuss attacks” and be specific.
@ Cointelproagen says ..."Here in the US where I live, we are free to insult anyone's god. So ***** your god Hitler or whoever you pray to." Ask Cointelproagent what he meant. It is clear to me. He is talking to YOU in specific, not the Irish people, or anyone else. YOU.
“Yet, if you say anything against Jews or their world, the ADL or their ilk are after you with anti-Semitic charges. When was the last anti-Muslin or anti-Christian charge.” - You are reverting into incoherence. You can say things against Jews or the “ADL or their ilk” (“ilk” - another endearing term of yours) without being an anti-Semite. But it is clear when the line has been crossed. And that line has been crossed by you long ago. I am comfortable in calling you an anti-Semite, which is a term that isn’t tossed off freely.
“It is this extraordinary twisted logic that is the kernel of the difficulties that America faces today.” - What would you know about that? Is County Dublin a part of America these days? Or are you one of these people who believe that national borders are irrelevant?
“To be pro-Israel, hatred of its opponents was required and dictated US foreign policy.” -- You are a fool.
Now you become incoherent. “Dancing Zionists?”
“Was the Iraq invasion not a religious war to justify the removal of one man?!!!” - A religious war? What?
“I keep asking why not a Mossad assassins bullet to "rid me of this meddlesome priest" on this occasion, unless regime change was never the Zionist agenda, ever. Answer?!” -- Here is the answer. I don’t know “why not a Mossad assassins bullet to "rid me of this meddlesome priest" on this occasion.” Do you think that the Mossad checks with me?
“Think of all those young true Americans - from the Marshall Islands, to the Blacks, to the Latinos, to the poor Whites, on thought to the opposite extreme to the minute number of Zionist - who died for the Zionist agenda abroad in Iraq.” -- This makes no sense.
When you say “the rat pack” do you mean Jews? I don’t know how many Jews have served in the US forces. I don’t think the US keeps statistics on religion of their members. Would you prefer that the US did? “J” on passports or something like that?
“More than served in the IDF?!!!” -- probably. But I don’t have the figures. Why don’t you look it up on Wikipedia or on Google?
“double loyalties” - again with that?
“Should I continue my mission or cease? Zionist need not respond.” -- Oh yes! Please continue. Please!!!
@ Monsieurginger says" Your are not ..., your concerns are misplaced. "I am that I am" is a retard. You see, here, I insulted my own god which I don't believe in. Anyway, I thought jesus wasn't a god". As usual, there's not much that I understand of the triple-loyalty challenged cretin child, so that I normally just block him but here, not only would he not use Jesus, but he goes much further with his INSULT to Christians with his cheap shot denial of Jesus being god, or the son of god to be accurate.” You are too incoherent here to answer. I don’t see an insult to Christians there, but what do I know about what they may see as a Christian? I’m not a Christian, so I don’t presume to know what insults them. “Triple-loyalty challenged cretin child ...” Nice bit of name calling there, Rob. The more names you call, the more foolish you look, so keep it up. The more you allude to mons and I being the same, the more foolish you look, so keep it up.
“If he chooses to insult his own god is his business, if both childish and stupid but deliberating insulting the Christian god is every Christian's business. That's how is constantly if you are Muslim.” Say that again, please. Slowly. I am sure it is my stupidity, but I can’t understand.
@ Thenwo says "We have a reason to be concerned about fundamentalist Muslims, ...dangerous when compared with the fundamentalist Muslims, who are more interested in death and Sharia." -- “Thenwo” - I am not familiar with “Thenwo”
“... it's of the 'my dick is bigger that your dick' style of argument ...” -- You were on about “circumcised penises the other day” and also about “eunuchs” and “third kinds”. I think you have some “issues” in the regard of genitals, but I may be wrong. This might be your way of being intelligent.
“I have read the old testament as a child and don't think I am yet over the trauma of its violence. Not until I read Leon Uris did I encounter such murder and mayhem.” -- This is so laughable I almost lost control of my bodily functions. Get over it already. This is a notable quote. Put that on your profile page.
“Please cease and desist from SPITTING on the dead Jews of the Holocaust.” Okay, I will. Sorry to have offended your sensitive nature.
Thank you for getting out of my fans list. There is no way in hell (ooops - was that an insult to believers?) that I would befriend you -- so please stop with the flowers and candy.
Have a nice day, and look out for the cerebrum munching chipmunks,
Hersch Lieb Mendel Menachem Reuven Shimon Leyvi Yudah Zvulun Issachar Dan Gad Asher Naftali Yosef Benyamin Groucho Chico Harpo Zeppo Gummo Yitzchak Shmuel Baruch Mottle Tevye Lazer Wolf Moishe David Amos Vladimir Ilych Boris Karl Pinchas Larry Moe Curly Rivkele Bernkovskachinskovitzbergerblattbaumeineneurenbergerbrattwurstchenbittemeineliebling - inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+7COIN - Thanks for the clarification. I'll repeat myself: Thanks for the clarification. I'll repeat myself: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'll repeat myself: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'll repeat myself: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'll repeat myself: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. Aaaargh!! The pixies have got my cerebellum.
Love,
Reich Hand - frofisrael, on 09/21/2008, -1/+6bernk1, Righthand listens to the voice of hobbes! Hobbes tells him everything when he (Righthand) goes into a trance 24/7.
- inactive, on 09/22/2008, -0/+5haha, classic.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -1/+6RightHand - please refer to my earlier response to you. Have a groovy day.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -0/+4RightHand - We've gone over this before, several times already today. Have you forgotten already? The only one attacking people of other beliefs is you.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -4/+8RightHand - Sorry for the delay in responding to your request, “Where on earth is that famed Jewish humour?” I was getting my horns sharpened and that takes quite some time. Anyway, here is some of that famed Jewish Humour. It comes from “Hassidic Tales, with a Guide to Their Interpretation by the Noted Scholar.” (Reb Velvel der Brooklynische Gaon)
A man who could not marry off his ugly daughter visited Rabbi Shimmel of Cracow. “My heart is heavy,” he told the Rev, “because God has given me an ugly daughter.”
“How ugly?” the Seer asked.
“If she were lying on a plate with a herring, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.”
The Seer of Cracow thought for a long time and finally asked, “What kind of herring?”
The man, taken aback by the query, thought quickly and said, “Er--Bismarck.”
“Too bad,” the Rabbi said. “If it was Maatjes, she’d have a better chance.” - monsieurginger, on 09/21/2008, -4/+8I still don't see how I insulted christians.
- dkapuchino, on 09/21/2008, -2/+6Reported for spamming.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -2/+6monsieurginger,
I generally agree with your analysis, but I think the correct spelling in this case is "mentalpause". - COINTELPROAgent, on 09/22/2008, -1/+4bernk! If you are ever looking for a new book, I highly recommend "Happiness is a Serious Problem" by Dennis Prager. I'm going through it now and it's great.
- inactive, on 09/21/2008, -5/+8What? This is too incomprehensible to even mock.
- inactive, on 09/22/2008, -1/+4DEPT. OF GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE - The author of the Bismarck/Maatjes herring story is actually Woody Allen. The story comes from “Hassidic Tales, with a Guide to Their Interpretation by the Noted Scholar” which is a short story in his book, "Getting Even"
A man who could not marry off his ugly daughter visited Rabbi Shimmel of Cracow. “My heart is heavy,” he told the Rev, “because God has given me an ugly daughter.”
“How ugly?” the Seer asked.
“If she were lying on a plate with a herring, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.”
The Seer of Cracow thought for a long time and finally asked, “What kind of herring?”
The man, taken aback by the query, thought quickly and said, “Er--Bismarck.”
“Too bad,” the Rabbi said. “If it was Maatjes, she’d have a better chance. - brightlight4, on 09/21/2008, -4/+7The MUSLIM Holy Book is NOT intolerant at all, the same thing happens with the Coran that occurs with the Bible, it depends on who is doing the interpreting. There are a lot of Muslims who do not interpret the Coran in such an intolerant way and those are the Muslims we should be talking to and getting them to convince their brothers that they are making mistakes by interpreting things in such a bad way. Also our treatment of Muslims has earned their hatred towards our world, they feared us, now it is our turn to fear them. What goes round comes round!!!
- inactive, on 09/22/2008, -1/+3It is a good book. I have read it before. To bad Mr. Hand never incorporated its lessons into his life.
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