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- quakerorts, on 12/04/2007, -11/+85See Bush lie! The show that never ends.
- inactive, on 12/04/2007, -7/+70Update: National security adviser: 'We were right' to be worried about Iranian nuclear ambition
WTF? While admitting that they have been wrong & therefore lying & warmongering for two years against Iran, they also say that they were right to do so?! That's called double-speak in my book. Also, the White House said at the same time that they are going to be even tougher on Iran! WTF? So, despite the facts, aka reality, the Executive Branch of warmongering neocons not only will not apologize/admit being wrong again about WMDs, but they want to stay on their course which will likely lead to another illegal, immoral, & unnecessary war with a oil rich country.
This is BIG breaking news because the NIE report was just released, as well as it is amazing that our 16 intel agencies are now in agreement that we have been wrong for demonizing Iran for the past two years. Aka, Bush, Cheney, Israel, & the other neocon warmongers have serious egg on their face as of today! They have been lying all along & its now proven as of today!
I say, throw the bums out! (or worse) - inactive, on 12/04/2007, -9/+56"What more do you commies want?"
This "commie" wants an end to the war industry, a gutting of the Pentagon and criminal charges filed against George Bush, Dick Cheney and the rest of their criminal administration.
and a pony - laterthandawn, on 12/04/2007, -9/+42I can't wait to watch them try to dance this one off.
God, we need a serious change. - kooft, on 12/04/2007, -5/+28Wait a minute. Commies are patriotic Americans who love this country? If so then I am a commie and since you aren't a commie, you don't love this country and should probably start looking for the nearest exit.
- mikelieman, on 12/04/2007, -3/+24"I say, throw the bums out! (or worse)"
I say, that as a Nation of Laws, this FRAUD should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law.
Lying to Congress and The People, with the intent that that deception will deprive Congress and The People of their appropriate role in providing oversight of the Executive is a violation of 18 USC 371.
This Attorney General needs to do his duty, and direct the US Attorneys to begin preparing a case for presentation to the Grand Jury.
Justice *must* be seen. - Groovemaster, on 12/04/2007, -9/+30War is the USA's biggest business, and the businessmen in the White House will stop at nothing to keep the profits flowing in.
Don't think this will deter them in the slightest. Maybe they have another false flag attack in the works to pin on Iran? - Berkana, on 12/04/2007, -6/+23You blind reich-tard! the report came from the US intelligence community.
- MacEnvy, on 12/04/2007, -4/+20So ... Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon program ... and Bush insists they do, and will start (in his own words) WW3 because of this belief. And somehow this means that Bush's strategy is working?
Listen, it's okay if you don't understand international diplomacy. Really, it is. Not everyone is a policy wonk. But to assume that any news you hear means good things for the administration - even when it directly contradicts everything they're trying to do - makes me think you're either very naive, or a tool of president.
Or perhaps both ... Dana Perino, is that you? - callmejack07, on 12/04/2007, -3/+18what, looking for fox news to report it?
- mdc10s, on 12/04/2007, -18/+32ron paul is going to be a much better president
- inactive, on 12/04/2007, -6/+20Us commies are notoriously idealistic.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -4/+18The page cites its information from and links to MSNBC and Washington Monthly.
- zephc, on 12/04/2007, -1/+14This is why we can't have nice things!
- chrismgtis, on 12/04/2007, -5/+18It's sad that you have an American flag as your avatar.
Get out. - Rhodamine, on 12/04/2007, -2/+15You keep on believing that, tough-guy.
".......Bush was only recently told this report may be true, and to not back down from his hard rhetoric until it was absolutely confirmed."
So ask yourself this: If Bush isn't calling the shots, then who is? - mikelieman, on 12/04/2007, -4/+16The word you are looking for is "Fraud", and I wonder if the new Attorney General will have any balls, and do his actual duty, or is he just another tame-lapdog?
- BassMastr, on 12/04/2007, -3/+14Is this from the same group that said Iraq had WMD?
- dawgma, on 12/04/2007, -2/+12Holy smokes. Just look at these comments... I'm convinced that almost NONE of you have taken any time to read even just a few highlights from this latest intelligence report on Iran. None of you are discussing any of the MANY other conclusions that were found in the report. You're not DEBATING any of the arguments that the administration is using to maintain that Iran is still a threat. No.. instead you have simply found another "story" where you can just blurt out your dissatisfaction towards the administration. You're ignoring the facts, and believing the headlines.
Well guess what? Anyone who behaves like this is as simple minded as the people they so readily direct their hatred against. If you can't be bothered to look up real information about the NIE report to support any of your comments, then your hypocrites. Hypocrites who complain that their leaders are willfully ignorant and hostile, and yet you're behaving the exact same way. If this administration has taught you anything it should have been that it is important to inform yourself with the truth before you react. Careful consideration should be given before you make your judgments.
Now before you bury my ass into oblivion, I'll tell you that I HATE the current administration as much the rest of you. I believe they are crooked, stubborn liars who are stripping America of their freedoms even if they aren't aware of the extent of their actions. But there's more to this latest intelligence report than most of you think. The report did not unambiguously state that Iran = no threat. In fact, there are a lot of conclusions drawn in the report that should stimulate a real debate about the level of threat Iran does pose, if any.
If you're so ready to quote this report to demonstrate how corrupt the administration is, then take heed of some other facts that can be found in there. In fact, even though Iran may not have any nuclear capabilities right now, the report DID state that the NIE has a medium-high level of confidence that Iran will have enough nuclear material to create a bomb by 2009. Did you know that?
Did you also know that the NIE (the organization who conducted this latest intelligence report on Iran) is the same intelligence organization that concluded Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? I am not implying that this automatically discredits the report, but it's definitely food for thought.
So STOP acting like children. Start being reasonable and debate the issues. BE OPEN MINDED. And don't let your hate blind you. - inkswamp, on 12/04/2007, -7/+16> the intelligence agencies themselves claimed Saddam has WMD's
Bzzt. Wrong. Intelligence agencies under the influence of the Bush admin were saying that. Those from other nations and those independent of that influence were saying otherwise. Thanks for playing. - Acewrap, on 12/04/2007, -3/+12Well, since you guys outed the CIA agent that was doing the NP work in the middle east, wtf do you expect?
- VitriolAndAngst, on 12/04/2007, -1/+9War results in our citizens being tasked with killing people of another country. A fraud that results in war, is the WORST CRIME imaginable, and should be treated as such. There is no "oops, my bad" -- this isn't like you failed to do a book report in school. You can't say; "I was mistaken" it should be your job to get the facts right -- or pay the consequences. The same punishment should be meted out for the ignorant as the guilty -- that would shortcut anyone at this level even trying to pull the "I didn't know" card. Of course in Congress, there ARE people who haven't read the Constitution. But, when you or I get in trouble, what does the judge say; "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." That should go double for anyone in a position of power.
Don't get elected if you can't meet these requirements for being responsible for the decisions you make. - BlacklabelSAR, on 12/04/2007, -4/+12And with that, you just lost ANY credibility.
- shakin, on 12/04/2007, -2/+10Let's march into Iran so we can find all those WMDs just like we found in Iraq. I saw a pic on the web showing a buried fighter jet and if that's not a WMD I don't know what is! This report doesn't mean Bush is lying when he says Iran is making nuclear weapons, it means he knows they were doing it in the past and by extrapolating that knowledge into omniscience he also knows they are building them now. I don't know why this is so hard for lefties to understand: history repeats itself so if Iran was building WMDs before 2003 then they are building them now. We should be the only ones with WMDs because we can be trusted. We don't go conquering other countries without a good reason and we don't put dictators in charge... we bring democracy and free people. We don't jail people for non-crimes or kidnap people from their homes. We've never been a part of displacing millions of people from their homes and when people in other parts of the world need help like the genocide in Rwanda we help them instead of sitting on our asses worrying about legalities.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 12/04/2007, -2/+9Your Archie Bunker impression is dead on.
- zephc, on 12/04/2007, -7/+14We don't have a republican president, we have a Neocon Statist Dictator-wannabe.
- RuffRidr, on 12/04/2007, -7/+14Wait, you can't have a pony until we get a social program in place where everybody gets a pony.
- Takran, on 12/04/2007, -3/+10You sound like you've been listening to the CNN/corporation controlled Youtube debates that were recently discussed on digg.
Or maybe you're just an idiot who generalizes parties. I'll be evaluating candidates on their individual qualities, as everyone should. - DashingLeech, on 12/04/2007, -0/+6"the White House’s manipulation of the Iran NIE bore a striking resemblance to the controversies that played out over pre-war Iraq intelligence.”
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. If you fool me — you can't get fooled again. - pintomp3, on 12/04/2007, -1/+7maybe because iran had a secular reformist in power at the time? one who offered us a peace treaty but we rejected, paving the way for hard-liners like ahmedinjad to come to power?
- HollowMarkeD, on 12/04/2007, -0/+6Dugg. Although I think your cry for reason will be lost here.
- kmusser, on 12/04/2007, -1/+7Did you ever stop to consider that maybe, just maybe, we might run out of oil some day? Then how will we make power... nuclear energy seems like a pretty good alternative for now. At least until something better comes along... and thats not coal.
- fonebone2, on 12/04/2007, -2/+7I'm sure it had something to do with Bush ratcheting up the rhetoric in 2006.
- Damian91, on 12/04/2007, -4/+9Dear God we can't have anyone else besides us THINKING about nukes!!!
- zephc, on 12/04/2007, -5/+10ink, are you even aware of Ron Paul's positions on anything, or are you flapping your lips to make sounds?
- dawgma, on 12/04/2007, -0/+5I know it will.. I just had to get that out...
- ApolloXLII, on 12/04/2007, -1/+6Everyone stop going at each other's throats about who is right or wrong. all that matters is that there is one simple solution to fix all of this. pull ALL American troops and remove ALL financial aid from the middle east, including Israel. Israel is just as big of trouble makers as the rest of them. the reason why the middle east (and much of the rest of the world) wants us to go die a painful death is because we're on their land with guns or giving guns to out like candy down there. think of it this way... if China or Russia had naval ships in the gulf and had troops in Mexico, wouldn't you think their next move was for us? wouldn't you want to grab a gun and head for the border? also, don't ever buy into "they hate our freedom and want to kill us because of it." there are other countries who represent freedom much better than we do. Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Canada... just to name a few. You know why nobody ever messes with them? because they never mess with anybody.
- edrift101, on 12/04/2007, -0/+5You can blame that report on the Bush White House (I'm looking at you Cheney...).
- cerberes, on 12/04/2007, -4/+9Im a rebulican but I'm getting really tired of this *****.
- vertinox, on 12/04/2007, -1/+6They have gasoline shortages of all places. Their refinment capacity is nihl and they would make more money selling their oil than using it themselves by building new refinery stations.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 12/04/2007, -4/+9So you put your party loyalty above common sense?
- CoolWind, on 12/04/2007, -1/+5You mean the same way you evaluated and voted for Bush? Don't you think it's time to learn from your past mistakes?
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -3/+7Quit with the insults.
- jlhoben, on 12/04/2007, -1/+5He just knows that if this war on terror gets seen as a farce he's going to jail.
- Rhodamine, on 12/04/2007, -1/+5good
I've always wanted a pony too. - kreneskyp, on 12/04/2007, -0/+4godwin's law is a crutch to prevent any comparison, usually by the people who would otherwise lose the argument.
Its not even a real law. For it to be a true you're saying no country could ever get as bad as nazi germany was. If you believe that you have put blind faith in all leaders of the world current and future to not be power hungry. - friday1970, on 12/04/2007, -0/+4Why hasnt crooks and liars reported on the new pedofile, working under a democrat congresswoman. That is one horrible person.
- mlopes, on 12/04/2007, -0/+4It's exactly the same logic behind the Patriot Act: you're with us (Bush, Chemny and all the neocon Republicans) or you're a terrorist.
- dawgma, on 12/04/2007, -0/+4@ blackhawk919
Well... here's a little secret: I added that strongly worded paragraph in the middle because I feared most readers would stop reading and digg me down if they suspected I was defending the administration. I'm no fan of the White House right now, but my real opinions aren't really as vociferous. - GeneralFault, on 12/04/2007, -1/+5@Charolette, RTFA. I can't do it for you.
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