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- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -6/+88I especially like this part:
It is also my understanding that any sitting federal judge can now --upon his/her own motion --convene a federal grand jury to investigate Bush's many violations of federal law, not the least of which are US Codes, Title 18, Section 2441, which make Bush subject to the penalty of death for each death of his war of aggression in Iraq.
(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
--TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441 § 2441. War crimes - Minarchian, on 07/11/2008, -10/+63I'm so fed up with our Government that I doubt any Federal Judge will do ***** about Bush. Bush has so much power, abdicated by the Congress, that it may be too late to try him for high treason.
- imacommi, on 07/11/2008, -6/+55Let's just hope they do something about it. I'm so tired of government officials not being held accountable for their actions. These people should be arrested and tried in a court of law. Just because you hold a political office doesn't mean you are above the law. Even the prince is not above the law...
- gsxraddict, on 07/11/2008, -10/+46dugg, lets get this to the front page, send it to your friends.
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -0/+32Damn staight they are! Bush called it a war, didn't he! He abrogated the Constitution because we were at war, didn't he? He claims executive privilege because we are 'at war', didn't he? He said on national TV and broadcast to the world "I AM A WAR PRESIDENT!" Didn't he?
In short --if Bush's defense is that he could not have commtited war crimes because we were NOT at war, get his SORRY *****' ASS INDICTED IN HIS OWN WORDS|!
Bush is a goddamned nazi bastard war criminal ...and a noose awaits his sorry ass! - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -10/+38War criminal with blood on his hands from the murder of over 1.5 MILLION Iraq civilians. Over 4 million displaced and homeless refugees, the worst refugee problem in history. Lied to trick us into a pre-meditated war on fabricated "evidence" and forged "proof." Over 4500 (accounted for..) US troops killed. On lies, to further a PNAC manifesto war profiteering scam. Yet some schmuck is rotting in prison 10 to life for "marijuana possession' on a misdemeanor. Setup a trial venue at The Hague and prosecute this murderous, Constitution dismantling, Bill of Rights pissing, freedom & privacy rights-destroying dictator already for high crimes and treason against the American people and THE WORLD.
- ZZeke, on 07/12/2008, -2/+29because it disses the fuhrer
- vivisimonvi, on 07/12/2008, -10/+37why is this story being buried??? I refreshed to see less diggs
- PeppermintPig, on 07/11/2008, -0/+27Are war crimes valid if there isn't a declaration of war? Is it instead murder, amongst other things?
- turtleman8089, on 07/12/2008, -5/+23I dont understand why this kind of news isnt all over news sites.
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -1/+17Bush had acquired a large portion of Paraquay...but last I heard the deal had fallen through. Bush may wind up with NO PLACE TO RUN. NO PLACE TO HIDE!
When he is outta the White House ---ALL BETS ARE OFF on this sorry goddamned, sonovabittch mass murderer! - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+16War crime fits for any unlawful use of armed forces against another state.
You don't have to declare war. International tribunals don't play the semantics game. Like the way Vietnam is officially a "diplomatic intervention".
And even if they avoid the war crimes accusations, crimes against humanity accusations are still valid and equal.
Crimes against humanity:
Cruel and unusual punishment
Torture
Killing unarmed civilians.
Bush has that covered. - ileen4justice, on 07/11/2008, -2/+18Well words are important. Because congress has not officially declared "war" the war profiteers gouge us even more: "Unless Congress closes a gaping hole in the law against war profiteering, companies ripping off taxpayers in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars may never be fully prosecuted. This is because the latest conflicts are not declared wars...." -- (see http://digg.com/political_opinion/Corporate_Americ ... Vincent Bugliosi has written a great book on how local prosecutors can charge Bush with murder. He can definitely be prosecuted. The nagging question is if he can pardon himself which most lawyers believe he cannot. BTW, he can pardon those telecoms giving them criminal and civil immunity. Another BTW -- the "FISA" law just passed conflicts with this judge's opinion -- this judge has got kahuna's...
- Caiman, on 07/13/2008, -3/+17432 diggs and not promoted yet.
Latest xkcd comic, 35 diggs and on the front page.
Go figure, digg. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -7/+20Bush is a criminal and needs to be hung out to dry.
- MorganMghee, on 07/11/2008, -1/+13What country do you think he will move to?
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -6/+17people are now afraid of this government that's why
- lemcoe9, on 07/13/2008, -5/+16378 diggs and not on the front page. Come on Digg. Not again.
- swrostmore, on 07/12/2008, -0/+10Casualty counts are done the same way in every war. If you're going to discount the Iraq casualty count based on methodology than you are by implication denying all historical casualty counts from WWI, WWII, Vietnam, etc.
As an aside, Islam requires that the dead be buried immediately, so studies that only use morgue statistics are going to be significantly lower than the actual numbers. - commernie, on 07/13/2008, -1/+11I do. The owners of major media outlets are the same people who own oil and weapon companies. It's in their best interest to not report anything negative about their buddy Bush or the war.
- Vierotchka, on 07/12/2008, -0/+10They are also crimes against humanity, which are just as bad.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+11'republicrats' is a combination of "Republican" AND 'Democrats"
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -2/+11get this ***** to the front page!
- xtinamo, on 07/12/2008, -6/+14No wonder they knocked off Snow. Bush is about to lose his power and people like this judge no longer have to fear being fired for some fabricated reason. I won't get my hopes up, but this news is promising at the very least.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -8/+16We need to organize now to oppose 'republicrats' granting ANY ONE 'retroactive immunity' from war crimes prosecutions.
- jaymzdean, on 07/14/2008, -0/+8If Digg wants to censor their website, that's their business, but I think they should come clean, if that's the case, so we can make an informed decision on if this is, indeed, where we want to spend our clicks.
- ReidFleming, on 07/13/2008, -2/+10"A true patriot does not confuse government with country. A patriot’s loyalty is to his country, and loyalty to country requires holding government accountable." -- Paul Craig Roberts
- swrostmore, on 07/12/2008, -0/+7Also, the American death toll in foreign wars is over 4500 during the Bush presidency, you forgot to include Afghanistan.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+7Hang the bastard!!!
- borez, on 07/14/2008, -0/+7Now 582 diggs and no front page???
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+7"This is NOT a valid way to do a body count."
Not according to the British...
"But the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific adviser said the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".
Another expert agreed the method was "tried and tested"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/649575 ...
So you are wrong.
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"They interview 900-1000 people from all over Iraq "
That's simply wrong. You don't know what the ***** you are talking about, Rush. That crap was blown away by the study's author long ago.
"our survey sample included 12,801 people living in 47 clusters, which is the equivalent to a survey of 3,700 randomly selected individuals. As a comparison, a 3,700-person survey is nearly 3 times larger than the average U.S. political survey that reports a margin of error of +/-3%. "
http://www.jhsph.edu/refugee/publications_tools/ir ... - inactive, on 07/13/2008, -3/+9THANK YOU!!!!!!! We still have hope.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+6When counting dead DO remember that if someone is still breathing and dies away from the "battle" they don't categorize that as war dead. They're put in as wounded as they died later.
- commernie, on 07/13/2008, -0/+6"They go to 1,000 or so houses, ask how many have been killed as a result of the war, and then apply that average to the entire country. There is no way you'll get accurate results using those methods."
Wrong. This is a perfectly valid way to do a body count. If you knew anything about statistics, you wouldn't come to the conclusion you came to.
And, by the way, they don't "apply that average to the entire country". It's more complicated than that. I suspect you know this, and are trying to over-simplify the process so as to make it seem ridiculous when, in reality, it's a perfectly valid scientific way of doing things. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7DO you think the Republicrats will grant retroactive war declarations?
- swrostmore, on 07/12/2008, -2/+8Congress didn't force Bush to commit a felony, they only helped him cover up the evidence. They may be swine, but they aren't to blame for Bush choosing to break the law.
- MasterThief117, on 07/14/2008, -1/+6I hope to God there is more follow up on this.
I want to see Bush and Cheney and the rest of the heartless ***** heads pay for what they did.
But something tells me something. A little bird whispered in my ear. This whole thing is more talk. This is not going to fall into place. It can't. Not with the way the Bush Administration is running things. There is no way to hold someone accountable in a system they run. In other words, it seems to me the Bush Administration owns the entire judiciary system. There is no way they are going to do anything to Bush.
I think it's time WE did something. - esthercaulfield, on 07/13/2008, -0/+5Under this administration, American citizens can now be held indefinitely without trial or charge. Saying that folks aren't affected by it unless they're terrorists is extremely dangerous, because it allows the potential for innocent people to be labeled terrorists, and then what judicial oversight is there to prove that they're not?
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+6When the legal system fails, a good sniper can always set things right.
- GhostyBoy, on 07/13/2008, -0/+4What the ***** is wrong with you, *****?
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -16/+20CONGRESS PASSED IT
It's not all Bush's fault - Rotzooi, on 07/13/2008, -4/+8Apparently, now that Digg is officially part of the Bohemian Grove clique, articles like these are artificially held back...?
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+4He's already purchased a huge tract of land in Paraguay.
- 0kami, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3forget anything happening here.
they'll blow it over.
they'll go ahead and meekly let it go by.
what i'd love to see is the International Criminal Court. . .
coming to get Cheney and Wolfowitz and a more than few others as well. . .
then they can get the Halliburton execs in Dubai. . .
and KBR. . .and Blackwater. . .and so many others. . .
because no one here has the balls to do anything. . .
Republican or Democrat. - swrostmore, on 07/13/2008, -1/+4What are you talking about? Judge Walker's ruling held that Article 2 does not authorize the President to violate a federal statute, thus George W. Bush is a felon for violating FISA.
- jamesfaction, on 07/14/2008, -0/+3Bush? Hahahahaha. Yeah. Hang Cheney.
- MattNF, on 07/13/2008, -2/+5It's not Digg's fault, there are obviously people burying this story to prevent it from getting to the front page... the number of diggs doesn't matter.
- Jimmyb207, on 07/13/2008, -1/+4There will be a time, you mark my words, when the people will rise up and start taking matters into our own hands. Like the saying goes....if you want the job done right, do it yourself. If police brutality stays on it's present course, we will start defending ourselves against what appears to be an enemy of the people. The legal system, as I'm sure you are aware of, now allows the Fascist politicians to literally get away with mass murder on a scale that blows the mind. The day is coming....fight for your 2nd amendment right as if it were family. Because as far as I am concerned, the day the feds come to take away our guns will be the day the 2nd American Revolution begins.
- doctorfungi, on 07/13/2008, -2/+5This comment system is *****.
- rearlgrant, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Yeah, wacky and enjoyable.
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