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- pierrebrennan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+59I am only now realizing that our country is being led by a cult.
- TuxNuts, on 10/12/2007, -9/+56Where have you been for the last 6 years?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+36Well we'd all be a LOT more informed if we listened to what Stewart/Colbert say instead of the tripe coming out of the white house and the MSM.
- LBTS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Okay buckeye, tell us exactly what Stewart said in that clip that you think is not the gospel truth? Did the Bush administration not hire 150 lawyers with a 4th rate education? Did not a Justice Department official hold out for immunity from crimes commited at the behest of this administration? Exactly what part of the this isn't the truth?
You do remember the truth, don't you, or has Bush/Cheney totally ***** up that concept for you, too? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Why does the right wing need to hire 150 people from a bottom of the barrel law school?
Because lawyers with real credentials won't work for them. - rippyd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29I'll bet the lawyer accompanying Monica Goodling when she testifies before congress didn't go to Regent University.
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Well the reality is just as sick, this administration values loyalty and ideological purity over actual experience. Why they had a bunch of Heritage Institute approved folks straight out of college running occupied Iraq.
- RobArtLyn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Reality has a known liberal bias.
- LBTS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25buckeye, thank you for the nonresponsive answer. I asked you for a little truth and you evade it; I'm not surprised. You made your BS remark about this particular Jon Stewart clip. You can't refute the facts in the Stewart piece, so you take a low blow approach and make a feeble attempt to impugn the source.
Cheap shots are all you are left with, because your arguments are devoid of substance and truth.
You don't like Jon Stewart because his humor is based in truth. You like O'Reilly because he doesn't know what the truth is, and you like to be deceived. That is the truth. - eean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Surveys have shown this to be true. Stewart viewers are more informed, Fox viewers are the least.
Stewart has made the point that his show wouldn't be funny if you didn't keep up with the news. So this fact is probably because those that keep up with the news already self-select to watch Stewart. That Fox (which unlike Comedy Central supposedly has a goal to inform) viewers are the least informed is still pretty sad though. - UrbanOne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"Yeah, its called the Daily Show, Colbert, and Stewart. Every digg user believes everything said by them is gospel."
Just for the record, and not that this is a more "credible" source, but this story was on Bill Maher's show a few weeks ago:
http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/new_rules/20070413.html
"How do you get to the top that fast? Harvard? Princeton? No, Goodling did her undergraduate work at Messiah College. You know, Messiah, home of the Fighting Christ-ies? And then went on to attend Pat Robertson's law school. Yes, Pat Robertson, the man who said that the presence of gay people at Disney World would cause earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor, has a law school."
"Now, would you care to guess how many graduates of this televangelist's diploma mill work in the Bush Administration? 150. And you wonder why things are so messed up. We're talking about a top Justice Department official who went to a college funded by a TV host." - kiwiboyus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22You keep using that word but I do not think it means what you think it means.
- Rtothe2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
- musicbear, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18@adam84a
It's NOT a just Christian school. It's an uber right wing politically motivated psycho Christian school led by a psycho talking head on TV who has called for the assassination of heads of state and decreed that gays at Disney would cause natural disasters. - Myko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18buckeye70:
I'm ashamed that we (most likely) go to the same university. You see news like this (150 people in the Bush administration all came from the same, 4th tier, university run by a lunatic) and all you can do is put down the comedy news show (and its spinoff) reporting the facts? This ***** isn't made up. Please quit making our university look bad. - soccernamlak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16No, we're making fun of it because its a low ranking college funded by a TV Host where more emphasis is placed on God than law, and how 150 of Bush's people that work in the government which we assume would take the best people went to a bottom of the barrel law school,
Next time, watch the video or read the newspaper or other websites before you go shouting discrimination on an issue where it isn't discrimination.
Oh, and FYI: Catholics are Christian too.
Edit: @musicbear2, couldn't have said it better myself - Myko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I think the onus is on you at this point to show the daily show or colbert report reporting something that is a lie.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"Have they every said anything wrong? Will anyone here admit it?"
Why don't you post something from the Daily Show that is "wrong" and the posters can discuss it? - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11there is no such thing as reverse discrimination
discrimination against a minority or majority is still discrimination - rockchops, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Gee, ya know, maybe... just maybe.... if it seems like the less informed tend to be conservative.... perhaps Liberalism is the right choice. One might equate it to saying "Gosh, I can't put the way I feel into words with out sounding like an *****." Well, maybe that should be a clue. Consider that it's no coincidence that those who are well informed, and have an ability to think critically (as in, to not dismiss other viewpoints just because they disagree with your original viewpoint) is probably not just a coincidence.
If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's probably a goddamned duck. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12regents getting accredited in the first place is disgusting. might as well create a taliban school of law and give it legitimacy too.
- briangig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10hilarious yet terrifying.
- thorn101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9This is just horrible in so many ways it just boggles the mind.
- marmanukem, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Apparently Buckeye doesn't know how Digg's reply function works!
- apothekari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@buckeye.
Sir it's in these people's best interest to keep their supporters uninformed or ill-informed if any real critical thinking is done or embarked upon REALITY begins to invade this "dream of what we wish were true" that the religious right uphold as "truth".
It almost always boils down to these statements.
______________is true because that's what I've been told in church.
_______________ is true because that's what Rush/ORielly/Savage said.
_______________ is true because Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld said.
Saying something and it's relationship to Reality are 2 entirely different things.
Jim Jones,spoke TRUTH to his people as well.
So did Hitler by his reckoning.
As my grandma used to say "There's what's right and what's right and never the twain shall meet."
If anyone tells you that you can't trust the news or what their saying unless it comes from sources who all agree with each other in lock step often even using the SAME EXACT WORDING you have to consider you may not be getting all the story. - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"or underestimate their ability to do real damage to our legal system through an extremely strident religious agenda"
Why is GKorff being dugg down? He's right. It's a true threat. They teach these people how to undermine society with strict ideology, and it has to be stopped. - mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5People who publicly proclaim to be religious are full of *****. People who are really religious don't need to ***** bitch about it.
Religion is evil, its going to the hells. - quakerorts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3:Jiffy-Law" heh-heh.
- princesses, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Do you think they use old testament law, or new? Which does god want? Eye for an eye or turn the other cheek? I really want to know because my lawyer better know that he/she is hired to destroy the other person. If he gets up in the court room and decides that we should all pray for a solution I would loose it. Also what man of god would fire someone and not tell them why? Why would a man of god lie under oath?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Catholics are christians.
EDIT: What soccernamlak said - YumYumKittyLoaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Alright, you REALLY don't know how the reply function works, as pointed out in two other disjointed replies.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Psychologists know it as a self reinforcing delusion, i don't have any proof of god because god doesn't mean for me to have any proof.
It's not respectable or admirable that people have "faith" in something for which there is no original reason to have faith.
You can have faith that your car will start because it has started before, you can have faith that your house will be there when you get home because it was there yesterday. But don't have faith in deities because of a book that has been censored, rewritten and cut into pieces over the last 600 years. That's not faith, its called blind allegiance, and is symptomatic of a person who is unable to question authority or recognize deceit. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm sure at some point Jon Stewart has made an inaccurate claim (although I can't think of one), but let's not compare it to the vile hatred and lies that come from Bill O'Reilly every time he opens his mouth. Also, although nobody should have to point this out, there is a HUGE difference between a political commentator on the "fair and balanced" news network and a ***** comedian on Comedy Central. The fact that the latter has more credibility is indeed sad.
- DocXango, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Mormons = Terrorist sleeper cells? At least their law school isn't 4th tier!
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/law/brief/lawrank_brief.php - eje211, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6When I was at NYU, we had to buy our own lube. But I was in Arts building and... oh, I get it now.
- jetboatfishing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The American Bar Association or ABA has consistently refused to support or participate in law school rankings. Likewise, the Law School Admission Council has similarly shown opposition to rankings. The Association of American Law Schools has also voiced complaints; their executive director Carl Monk went so far as to say "these rankings are a misleading and deceptive, profit-generating commercial enterprise that compromises U.S. News and World Report's journalistic integrity." Among the criticisms of law school rankings is that they are arbitrary in the characteristics they measure and the value given to each one.
Digg this down, but it's no excuse for everyone not being knowledable. U.S. News and World Rankings is the biggest joke in the whole world. It's a corporate money scheming company that list the Universities, so they make more money! Their isn't much incentive to rank lower well know schools high sooooooo I wonder why they aren't 1st? The don't make as much money. Digg up if you aren't dumb.
"The idea that all law schools can be measured by the same yardstick ignores the qualities that make you and law schools unique, and is unworthy of being an important influence on the choice you are about to make. "
Who was this endorsed by?
Elena Kagan TIER 1
Harvard Law School
Harold H. Koh TIER 1
Yale Law School
http://www.lsac.org/LSAC.asp?url=lsac/deans-speak-out-rankings.asp
So which factor gained this schools academic performance?
The U.S. News rankings, unlike some other such lists, create a strict hierarchy of colleges and universities in their "top tier," rather than ranking only groups or "tiers" of schools; the individual schools' order changes significantly every year the rankings are published. The most important factors in the rankings are:
* Peer assessment: a survey of the institution's reputation among presidents, provosts, and deans of admission of other institutions
* Retention: six-year graduation rate and first-year student retention rate
* Student selectivity: standardized test scores of admitted students, proportion of admitted students in upper percentiles of their high-school class, and proportion of applicants accepted
* Faculty resources: average class size, faculty salary, faculty degree level, student-faculty ratio, and proportion of full-time faculty
* Financial resources: per-student spending
* Graduation rate performance: difference between expected and actual graduation rate
Not looking very accurate.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0412/p01s02-legn.html
"College presidents plan 'U.S. News' rankings boycott"
Deriding the ratings system as a 'beauty contest,' dozens of schools have refused to fill out surveys from the newsweekly. - pushmouse, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Nice straw man you built there. If Bush was hiring so many people from a 4th tier Catholic university you can bet people would be just as horrified.
- gnawph2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Does saying "reverse discrimination" mean that discrimination is strictly something effecting non-white people or something? Weird use of words.
My major point is that from my experience tons of people who actually go to catholic schools aren't religious. - toddcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't remember anything!!! I like to eat cheese!!!!
- pingveno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Getting news only from Stewart/Colbert is a horrible, horrible idea. Because they insert jokes into their sort-of news coverage, they can't cover more than a few news stories. It takes reading/hearing/watching the real news sources - The New York Times, NPR, Washington Post, The Economist, etc. to get "the news."
Stewart/Colbert have done good things in terms of getting people to be aware of the news (and they're hilarious!), but don't consider yourself well informed if you just watch them. - SpikeOKC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank you... now you are getting the point. Oh my "God" we are all doomed.
- AnswerToJob, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7This is also Minnesota's 6th's "God's Chosen" Michele Bachmann's law school. She graduated from Coburn law school the same year it failed and became Regents University. One step ahead of Jiffy-Law according to Jon Stewart, if you don't get your degree in 30 minutes, the lube is free. Amen?
- wotankrieg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pat Robertson believes that anyone who thinks there is life on other planets should be stoned to death.
No, I am not kidding.
Robertson Advocates Stoning for UFO Enthusiasts
http://www.skeptictank.org/gen4/gen02381.htm - AZnative, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OMG! Jon kills me all the time but THIS...this is some funny sh*t...
Keep up the great work Daily Show! - Morelia, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Whoever posted above that they are just realizing that the country is run by religious fanatics, well ... duh! Yes! And it's not just Christian loonies alone. The Mormons are also infiltrating government and community positions, like sheriffs, local school boards, high-level positions at federal contractor locations that oversee defense and other programs (environmental, health, etc.) of national importance.
They have an agenda to mobilize and some day at the right time have a critical mass control. They are like terrorist sleeper cells, no different at all. State sponsored religious control of secular society IS the most heinous form of terrorism .. against it's own people! - AnswerToJob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Regents U has removed their bragging about 150 recent graduates entering the Bush2 admin.
Oral Roberts U web has also cleaned off one of their most famous alumni.
TED HAGGARD! Former leader of 45,000 Evangelical churches and 31,000,000 members. Temporarily gay and meth stricken, cured in 3 weeks by the elders! (but DON'T come back, go Secular). Amen? - GKorff, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8I'm not a fan of Regent University Law more than anyone else, nor do I like the fact that they are so intimately tied to the current Administration, but I think its a mistake to dismiss their graduates so quickly, or underestimate their ability to do real damage to our legal system through an extremely strident religious agenda. Regent has one of the best legal advocacy programs in the country, despite their ranking. Anyone who knows about Trial and Moot Court competitions that the ABA puts on, understands that a school which places 1st in the nation in both the national ABA trial competition, and 1st in negotiation, certainly doesn't "lack credentials."
All I'm saying is don't dismiss them so quickly that they also gain the advantage of being underestimated. - AnswerToJob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1PS MIchele Bachmann is the Congresswoman who waited 4 hours to get an aisle seat at the SOTU so she could Photop claw Bush and then made him kiss her. Go to the light...
- adam84a, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1I did watch the video, and as much as I don't like Pat Robertson because of the shame and disgust that he creates for Christians, he was a lawyer long before becoming a money grabbing televangelist. Yeah, now that I think about it a little more the video wasn't attacking the Christian aspect of it as much as it was attacking the TV network relation and sub-par performance of the school.
Sorry about the Christain / catholic things, I didn't mean to exclude catholics from being Christians, I was just trying to draw the correlation with the way the media vehemontly hates evangelicals, but they love the catholics and are much less likely to portray them in a negative light. -
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