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- davenp35, on 10/23/2007, -5/+22As a two-time veteran of the Iraq War (OIF I and III) I am beyond disgusted with the recent comments of Rep. Stark (D)! Why is the media not covering this story? He first suggested that the Commmander-in-Chief of our armed forces enjoys seeing soldiers die. Are you kidding me? Then he suggests that soldiers are illegally killing innocent people. This is a direct slander against our troops. There is NO other way to interpret this. There is no spinning out of this one. His coments are very likely the most despicable that have EVER been uttered on the floor of Congresss in our nation's history. I am personally offended! I don't even want an appology. I want him to resign immediately!
- Maninthemiddle, on 10/23/2007, -5/+15I agree daven - it angered and saddened me at the same time. These people are from the lineage that were apologists for the Soviet Union, pulled for North Vietnam, and have despised the military because it protects and projects the values of the United States.
These past few weeks I have seen both the Islamists and far left feel emboldened and speaking their true feelings openly.
Since the MSM backs their every play, those of us who believe in a democratic, capitalistic, and nationalistic (versus global) world order need to speak loudly and clearly - just as you have done here. - akira185, on 10/23/2007, -5/+10What percentage of Democrats SPIT on Vietnam vets as they came home, vs. Republicans?
- akira185, on 10/23/2007, -3/+8No you moron, he was laughing at YOU, and all the "Bush lied blah blah blah" when we have gajillions of Democrats on record saying the same thing.
CLINTON: Good evening. Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors. Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world, Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons. I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish. Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.
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[quote]"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROGRAMS." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998[/quote]
[quote]"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his WEAPONS PROGRAMS. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
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[quote]Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROGRAMS. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998 [/quote]
[quote]"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
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[quote]The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002
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[quote] "What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
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[quote]"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
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[quote]"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, AND WILL KEEP TRYING TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
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[quote]"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
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[quote]Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
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[quote]Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
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[quote]"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002
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[quote]"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002
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[quote]"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
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[quote]"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
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[quote]"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002 [/quote]
[quote]"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
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[quote]"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
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[quote]"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
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[quote]Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
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[quote]"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
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[quote]"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
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[quote]"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002
[/quote] - Maninthemiddle, on 10/23/2007, -4/+8So Time - are you saying you support Stark's rant?
That's the topic, though you made a good attempt to shift the discussion with a little moral equivalency.
And I am surprised that Clinton made his judgment on Sadaam based on Bush intelligence that was some years in the future - impressive... - Glynth, on 10/24/2007, -1/+4Um, hello? Oil For Food Scandal, anyone? Do you SERIOUSLY believe what we were doing before the invasion of Iraq was working? Let me guess, you think it's mean and wrong of us to try to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons too, don'tcha?
BTW: You might try searching LGF (with its collection of news stories from AP and the like, not just stuff we make up, mind you) for "Hans Blix" and "IAEA" before you get any foolish ideas in your head so deep you can't weed them out. (It may be too late for you, seeing as how you've probably got a terminal case of BDS, but it's worth a shot.) - GeorgeFord, on 10/23/2007, -3/+6"Ironically, most of those comments came from the tweaked intelligence that Bush gave the Dems."
So let's go with what was said before 9/11.
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical
and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged
in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/priraq1.htm
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"In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more the very kind of threat Iraq poses
now -- a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction ready to use them or provide them to terrorists,
drug traffickers or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed.
If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened
tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from
the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcri ...
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"The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people,
the peace of his region, the security of the world.
The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready
to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people."
President Clinton
Oval Office Address to the American People
December 16, 1998
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/ ...
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"Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that
the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies
is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998
http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_t ...
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"Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened,
believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998
http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_t ...
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"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons
of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators."
Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/18/town.meeting.folo ...
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"Dear Mr. President: ... We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution
and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraq sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Sincerely,
John Kerry, Carl Levin, Joe Lieberman, Frank R. Lautenberg, Dick Lugar, Kit Bond, Jon Kyl, Chris Dodd, John McCain,
Kay Bailey Hutchison, Alfonse D'Amato, Bob Kerrey, Pete V. Domenici, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Mikulski,
Thomas Daschle, John Breaux, Tim Johnson, Daniel K. Inouye, Arlen Specter, James Inhofe, Strom Thurmond,
Mary L. Landrieu, Wendell Ford, Chuck Grassley, Jesse Helms, Rick Santorum.
Letter to President Clinton
Signed by Senators Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others
October 9, 1998
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Letters,%20 ...
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"His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region, and the security of all the rest of us.
What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more
opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the
sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?
Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go righ
t on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.
And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal."
President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998 http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcri ...
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Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998:
The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (sponsored by Bob Kerrey, John McCain, and Joseph Lieberman, and signed
into law by President Clinton) states:
"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein
from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ira ...
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UN weapons inspectors were forced to leave Iraq in 1998:
CNN
November 5, 1998
U.N. Security Council votes to condemn Iraq
The United Nations Security Council late Thursday voted unanimously to condemn Iraq and to demand that
Baghdad immediately resume cooperation with U.N. weapons inspectors. Baghdad has already said it will not comply.
The resolution called Iraq's decision last week to halt cooperation with the U.N. Special Commission a "flagrant violation" of
the 1991 resolution on Iraqi disarmament. It is the 45th U.N. resolution involving Iraq since the country invaded Kuwait in 1990.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9811/05/un.iraq.02
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"We must exercise responsibility not just at home, but around the world. On the eve of a new century,
we have the power and the duty to build a new era of peace and security.
We must combat an unholy axis of new threats from terrorists, international criminals, and drug traffickers.
These 21st century predators feed on technology and the free flow of information... And they will be all the more
lethal if weapons of mass destruction fall into their hands.
Together, we must confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons and the outlaw states, terrorists,
and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and
much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and
biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton
State of the Union address
January 27, 1998
http://clinton5.nara.gov/textonly/WH/SOTU98/addres ...
http://www.usemb.ee/union98.php3
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"Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world
and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors;
he will make war on his own people. And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction.
He will deploy them, and he will use them."
President Clinton
National Address from the Oval Office
December 16, 1998
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/19981216-3611 ...
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/ ... - Glynth, on 10/24/2007, -2/+4"THAT'S A COMPLEX QUESTION!" he says! Further confirmation of the utter waste of time it is to discuss things with the Far Left. You just can't bring yourself to come right out and say that what Stark said was utterly contemptible and despicable and there was no excuse for it. You've got to equivocate and rant and then you have the gall to say BUSH should apologize first! You have ZERO evidence that Bush doesn't care and there's a HUGE amount of evidence he does. You are fueled by hatred. Why is it so hard to see how completely wrong that is! How can you live with yourself? Don't you see the disease that has infected the very core of your soul? You let hate dictate to you your opinion of the President of the United States! Your ilk are a cancer on this nation. You are quite literally sick in the head. That's not an insult. Seek help.
- Timetheos, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1"Oil For Food Scandal"
You mean the issue that had several Americans involved (including Republican donors) and the US government turning a blind eye?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,36 ...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/14/oilfood.indictme ...
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11569
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/04/unsc ... - Timetheos, on 10/27/2007, -1/+2--
Further confirmation of the utter waste of time it is to discuss things with the Far Left
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What's wrong? Life too complex for you? Can't handle things if they aren't black and white?
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You just can't bring yourself to come right out and say that what Stark said was utterly contemptible and despicable and there was no excuse for it.
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Because it wasn't.
He asked if I supported it, and I would say my support is luke warm & qualified.
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you have the gall to say BUSH should apologize first
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Yep. He talked a big game about running government like a corporation. Where I come from, people get fired for doing stupid things, even if they couldn't see it up front. You lobby for a product, the preliminary studies say it will be a hit, the product fails, costing the company billions, and you get FIRED. He screwed up so big that we have squandered the good-will that other countries gave us after 9/11, the dollar is in free fall, the debt is sky-rocketing, OBL is still on the run,...
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You have ZERO evidence that Bush
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Interviews from family memebers (of vets that were killed in Iraq) met by him, his jokes about the lack of WMDs, and his lack of interest in clemency reports are more than zero, but you are too partisan to admit reality.
What "HUGE amount of evidence he does" do you have? Because he said so /smirk/?
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You are fueled by hatred.
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If I was fueled by hatred, I wouldn't agknowledge that things can be complex. Hatred is simple, much like your views. Frankly, I think you're projecting.
I believe it is people like you that need help. The 24%ers. You people would follow Bush into hell, groveling at his feet. You'd gladly sell out the 1st and 9th amendments for an illusion of security.Americans believe we should leave Iraq (http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm) While DC was in a storm, the people in society were generally supportive (http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_Poll_88_say_Rep. ... It is people like you that are the fringe.
I should probably be angrier than I am. Bush is screwing up the economy, ruining our reputation in the world, implementing poor policies resulting in increasing terror (look it up http://tkb.org/), playing political games with DOJ, wasting money(http://digg.com/world_news/U_S_cannot_account_for_ ... involved with torture (http://www.digg.com/politics/General_Bush_ordered_ ... - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -5/+3"That's the topic, though you made a good attempt to shift the discussion with a little moral equivalency."
You're projecting. I simply respond to the comments that are made.
"So Time - are you saying you support Stark's rant? " That is a bit of a complex question, so please bear with me.
In general yes, but with qualifications. I think he is attempting to express the frustration felt by him and most Americans. I think the term "amusement" was over the top. Frankly, I don't think Bush gives a damn about the lives; it does not amuse him, and it only bothers him in that it makes him look bad. He is a classic narcissist. An example of this comes from his casual handling of Texas clemency evaluations.
I do think Stark should apologize, but only after Dubya does. Bush needs to apologize to both us and the Iraqis for handling the whole thing soooo very badly.
Yes Clinton was impressive. He wasn't perfect, but a much better president than Bush could ever hope to be. - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -7/+3Ironically, most of those comments came from the tweaked intelligence that Bush gave the Dems.
Nice try, but no cookie for you. - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -6/+2Which is why we had a no fly zone...
Additionally, conditions change; strange you have few quotes between 98 and 2002...
Fact is, Bush ***** up. He took his eye off the ball. While Bush has wasted lives in Iraq, AQ and Osama are still around.
BTW: You might try reading this: http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Statements/2003/ebs ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,895882 ... - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -8/+3"Since the MSM backs their every play" Man, you people have so drunk the little-green-koolaid it's funny. How does this back Stark? http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/10/ ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21375855/ I find it funny about all these conservatives whining about a liberal bias in the news. What a joke! I read the Seattle Times. They have Jonah Goldberg in there, but they don't have actual liberal folks like Kos or Hamsher. It's about time you guys looked at reality and learned that the news is corporate; bought and paid for. The major shareholders and managers control the message. It's time you dropped the faith-based community and join the reality-based community.
- Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -9/+4Actually many of the people spitting hated the Dems also. Remember LBJ was a big supporter of the war. The war almost tore the Dems apart and lead to the Nixon (who had a secret plan to stop it ;-) ) election.
I can tell you that in congress that more Dems are Vets than Reps. Reps don't like to serve; they have "better things to do"; just ask Dick. - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -12/+5When Bush was making jokes that he couldn't find the WMDs, he was laughing at our troops. He might as well said "oopsy me,I just killed 3000+ of our troops and untold thousands of Iraqis for a stupid mistake. Isn't that funny? hahaha"
"Then he suggests that soldiers are illegally killing innocent people." Some have; for example http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/artic ...
So ultimately, your over-reacting. - Timetheos, on 10/23/2007, -12/+3"despised the military because it protects and projects the values of the United States"
Tell me: What percentage of the Vets in congress Dems and Reps?
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