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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Explain to me. Why do Americans and Europeans alike not fear the silent MSM.
We must speak up or they will win- GET LOUD!!!!!!!
" Le Figaro and two other European newspapers have now been banned for running commentary critical of Islam:" this is crazy - lccat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24You can not blame muslims, the infidels are at fault, don't forget all the infidels have to do is convert or of course just die!!!! After all it is the religion of peace.
- BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -13/+28It's amazing that political correctness allows this fascist movement to flourish. I can't stand it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21We either fight, convert, or die. I will not submit.
- Oracle95, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18I wish I could find the link for Brigitte Gabriel's speech at the Intelligence Summit back in February, but it's mysteriously absent from the Internet. (I'm sure someone can find it.) In a Cliff Notes summary, she points out all of these terrorist actions that took place before 9-11 and questions how America is to blame for actions against people in Syria, India, Egypt and Lebanon.
More ironic, we have those who protest the death penalty for these murderers when these murderers scream for a "Death Penalty" for "insulting" their religion. - Jrgurl, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Wake up America!
I will not submit! - JimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Because They Hate - by Brigitte Gabriel
The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 - by Lawrence Wright
www.prophetofdoom.net
Get educated and open your eyes. People out there would like to see you die. Guess what, they're living in YOUR community, not just on the other side of the world. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Let me be the first to call your false idol worshiping pedophile prophet a murdering slime bag who is rotting in hell. You can take your pathetic violence torn religion and shove it. (he married a 9 year old, look it up). I have no use for your slave owning prophet. (He owned slaves and had a couple of sex slaves) Fatawa that.
Bring it on islam-o-freaks address? US ARMY - BuddyOne, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15I find it interesting that the "Ancient Historian" Egon Flaig used a term to describe Mohammedans that should set most libs on fire. He called Islamist intentions "imperialist". Wow, that ain't gonna sit too well, especially that's their favorite word to describe the USA.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=violent+islam
Do some research. - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@igo6d
Watch the interview first, and then criticize me. How many 3-year-old Christians do you know who talk about killing people? - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@cybortrip
So, you're saying that we need to try to understand them? Well, I do. I understand that their lives and culture revolve around martyrdom.
I can't believe I'm still dragging this link around with me, but it does prove a point; their entire culture is ass-backwards and delusional:
http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165
This one's great too...brainwashing at a young age. I do think that the interviewer is pretty hot though...too bad she's a whack-job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbHVEGnYD8 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@crazyben,
He assumes that because he can't think for himself. To him all people who think this way are white radical christian americans. Its funny because I'm not white, not a christian, and only recently became an american. Yet he assumed i was all 3. In fact I'm an ex-muslim, but its funny to see his ignorance so i let him think what he wants. Yes according to islam, i am condemned to death. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10No but you might read and learn something, but then again what do i know? LOL
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+21I say its about time something is done about these dispicable murderers. Hey libs you ever hear of the global jihad? didnt think so. ALL muslims have a religious duty to kill americans. the left supports them, the media supports themand the terrorism problem in america is getting out of control. and there are over 10million islamofascists right here in the US. Take out islam or islam will take us out. simple as that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That's rubbish and you know it. Some of the comments here are justified and sensible.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10This from a person who refuses to open links to learn something. LOL
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9At least according to liberal fascists who think Christians have no right to criticize, anyway.
- golgotha, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12I heard this today and it seems to fit this story:
Why are there no muslims in Star Trek?
Dude! Star Trek is set in the future! - jonj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9crazy religious zealotry is the downfall of humanity
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9While Islam itself is a good peaceful religion (at least where it intersects with Christianity), it is critical that we stand up to the vocal extremist minority. Quite apart from anything else they are tarnishing the image of Islam for followers and non followers alike.
The main problem is that Islamic leaders do not have the courage to stand up to their own extremists. Certainly we see that here in the UK. Sadly, often the media and the powers that be (e.g. police, judges, especially local councils) go along with this cowardice, as we have seen from several high profile demonstrations in the UK where totally unacceptable threats and behaviour came from the Muslim extremist crowd. These extremists need a short sharp shock - a boot camp like in the States, or other punishment. They are like out of control children, except much more dangerous. Imprisonment or even better kicking them out of the country (whether born here or not) should swiftly follow if they are not tamed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9So you didn't research it. Sigh. Typical liberal, repeating talking points, not thinking, calling anyone with a different view from them a bigot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't actually research enough to know I'm right about my points.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12@cybortrip
There is no level of "understanding the underlying issues" that will appease terrorists. Plain and simple, they want to impose their interpretation of Islam on the world, or at the VERY least be left alone so that they can subjugate women and impose Sharia law, bomb Israel at will, and intimidate the West.
Neither is acceptable and we will not be intimidated. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9What a weak attempt to dispute documented facts with insults, come on, you can do better than that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Oh thats right, we are the ones threating to behead people who say things we don't like. My bad. Those peacefull muslims aren't really killing anyone who disputes thier version of god. They aren't really enslaving christians in the horn of africa. My bad, its us who are allowing honor killings, and jailing women who report rape for zina if they don't have 4 male witnesses to support them. I thought is was muslims who use suicide bombers world wide to attack who they don't like, but is guess its US!!!
Sarcasm off - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Islamics kill more every day than the KKK has in the last 50 years. Open your eyes. If being a bigot means i see things as they are and not some politically correct wonderland then so be it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9LOL You didn't even read the titles in that search did you? Most supported my view!!!
- JimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@igo62
Here is a suggestion for you. Read the Koran and then say to yourself... "If this was my religion and I believed what this book tells me, would I kill someone that was not my religion if they didn't convert to it?" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Care to point out where i said most? Again you assume.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Here come the moral/religious "relativists" out of the woodwork with the same brain dead, but "pious" lectures.
We can't judge Islam because there are "extremists" in every religion, blah blah blah. They usually cite some scripture in the Old Testament, taken out of context and it's place in history, to prove themselves.
Only problem is, the examples they usually cite of "extremism" in other religions are hundreds if not thousands of years old, and taken completely out of their historical context to boot.
They can't cite the same "extremism" in Christianity today. Where are the beheadings by Christians. The planes flown into buildings. The signs that say "behead those who insult Jesus!"
You can't find those examples. So how are they all the same, again?
The huge problem is these moral relativists don't notice or want to notice, the huge difference between Christianity or Judaism of 500 years ago, and Islam TODAY.
Whether atheists, secularists, relativists like it or not, the FACT is Christianity had a huge, positive influence on the West. This goes not only for art, science, civil rights, and raising the status of women. Everything from our calendar to the idea that men are EQUAL was derived from Christianity.
I can hear the squeals of disagreement from the Christianity haters now. They will cite the negatives, the Crusades, the witch burnings, on and on. BUT WHAT THEY WON'T DO IS ACKNOWLEDGE THE POSITIVES.
And the positives are so easy to prove without citing one link, or one historian. Simply point to the non Western World of TODAY, and say, see the differences? How are women treated outside the influence of Christianity? Different races, religions?
Like it or not Christian haters, that whole concept of freedom of religion, or the right not to have a religion, came from Christian thinking, and a Christian background.
Jesus never forced anyone to be baptized. It was a common practice to convert people to Islam at the end of a sword, and the radicalized Muslim world is demanding even now, America do the same, or die.
So, show us the POSITIVES of Islam? You can't. The positives of Christianity are many and so melded into our society, they have long been taken for granted. Those positives don't exist in the Muslim world and suggesting they should will get you beheaded.
So, enough with the comparisons of negatives, relativists. You can find negatives in any example. But when you ignore the positives in each group, or ignore the absence of positives in one group as compared to another, then you are practicing deliberate obfuscation. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8jgo6d, one could argue, but one would fail in the attempt.
My proof? Well let's look at the biggest historical example of secular society, where atheism is the state enforced religion. In short, communism. You will argue otherwise (or you will try) but communism is the greatest example of an enforced secular/atheist society.
Show me the positives of that society! Show me the examples of tolerance for religion, race, women's rights, etc. Despite all the propaganda to the contrary, it was well documented that women were treated as little better than servants in Soviet society, and their place was usually waiting in very long bread lines.
In China? A woman doesn't even have the right to decide if she will keep her pregnancy. The state can decide she has to abort it.
Like I said, one could argue, all these positive changes in the West happened despite Christianity, but one would run into the huge roadblock. That roadblock being examples of secularism OUTSIDE of Christianity. And those examples, don't hold up to your fantasized fiction. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I have already done that in other posts. Go do your own research for once and stop repeating the politically correct junk you masters have told to you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=violent+islam - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Yeah a real "free thinker" would piously declare that a whole religion has no rights to criticize based on their own laughable and mindless bias.
Btw, I thought the "right to criticize" was a form of "patriotism." So Christians aren't patriots? LOL
This guy is like shooting fish in a barrel, honestly. - JimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@there
Here is the difference. I'm a Christian and I think the KKK is one of the worst organizations on this planet. They are not Christians and they definitely don’t represent my religion. The neo-Nazis, same thing, they don’t represent me or my religion either. When someone claims to be Christian but preaches hate, real Christians stand up and say something, preachers and priests stand up to condemn the actions of the group. Tell me, where are the Muslims that condemn the actions of the terrorists? Why don't they stand up and say something? Maybe they're afraid of retaliation. But there are Islamic groups here in the US, why don't they stand up and say something? I'll tell you why, because they know that their religion teaches them that what the terrorists are doing is correct. The terrorists are not some violent minority, there just the ones that are acting on their religion. The others just support them by sending money and by not speaking out. If you don't believe me then go out to Amazon and purchase some books and read it for yourself. Get a copy of the Koran and read it for yourself. Educate yourself and you will learn what everyone else knows. You are being attacked and you don't even know it because you are keeping your self ignorant to the things that are going on around you and that's just they way they want it. It's not some extreme minority; it's a religion that believes that if you are not Islamic then you must die. There is no other choice in the Koran, you convert to Islam or you die. The Koran tells them that Islam will take over the world and it is there duty to make it happen -- if not by conversion, then by the sword. Now, I ask you, will you be converting to Islam? If not, then you better arm yourself. - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@igo6d said, "@BullyJack
"Watch the interview first, and then criticize me."
Sorry, I can't. My office internet filter doesn't let us go to certain sites, mainly pornography and hate sites. I'm surprised I can't get through to your site."
You can't get through to youtube.com? I didn't realize that it was a hate site. - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@sonodfy
Welcome to the USA. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I apologize for the double post. Thought I was repairing a sentence and somehow wound up posting it twice, and in separate columns. Weird.
Wow! I don't know how, but it got posted three times, I'm sorry. Not intentional! I don't know how the hell I did that. Major apology! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6jgo6d, so despite my "malfunction" of triple posting, this is all you can do?
***"Are you serious? Reread my post and ponder the words "eloquent" and "succinct." This platform is too laborious to deal with your brand of "logic."***
It isn't the platform, that's too laborious, it's the (gasp!) FACTS. You can't refute the historical citations of fact, that are too PONDEROUS for you to rationalize your way around.
Yes, it was a waste of time, in that no matter how obvious one makes it that liberals are completely ignorant of history, and just rely on bigoted assumption, it will never change.
They will continue to make the same claims, and I will continue to shoot the same fish in a barrel. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I don't see that here at all. Are you projecting?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Bwahahahahaa!
This is your refutation of me???? The fact that all cultures have a creation story???????????
All cultures have some kind of methods of doing away with bodily excrement too, which doesn't include the kind on-line! But what in the hell does that have to do with the subject, other than to vainly try to sound more intelligent? (and you failed btw)
What do creation stories have to do with the positives of Christianity vs. the deficit of such positives in Islam? Nothing! It's just a way to change the subject, if you know you are losing on the subject. (and that's pretty obvious)
Then you try the obvious obfuscation. That because the Russians had the Russian or Eastern Orthodox Church, than means the SOVIETS did. EEEEEE! Sorry. Want to try again in Double Jeopardy? The fact is the Soviet Union closed churches, demolished churches. The only exception being during the Siege of Leningrad where Stalin reopened the churches (only until after the Siege), because people needed the moral booster, and they weren't getting it from Stalin.
No sorry, the official state religion of Soviet Russia was atheism. No matter how you try, you can't blame the over 100 million people killed under communism, at the door of Christianity. And you can't rationalize away the positives of Christianity, by pretending those deaths never happened.
In fact, communism, aka, atheism has killed more people in the last 100 years, than the 1,000 years past that atheists leave at the door of Christianity. But, of course, that is going to be a huge debate, because the Christian bigots will try to assume ALL EUROPEAN WARS as being religiously inspired, and will ignore all other and political or economic rationale.
As for the idea China is becoming more permissive???????? I guess we forgot about Tia-men Square there didn't we? Sorry, but supplanting fact for your liberal fiction that under leftism we all end up singing Kumbya (except we can't sing "My Lord" under penalty of death) just doesn't work. Forced abortions is more permissive?????????
You have to be a guy right? Only a guy would think forced abortions is more permissive. Kind of gives you an idea of the kind of dream society liberal men would like to live in, doesn't it?
And YET again you prove me right. You bring up the "Dark Ages" because that, frankly is where liberalism is stuck and the last time they ever noticed a religion besides their own. However, as I said above and what set you off, the Dark Ages was a very LONG time ago. The deaths at atheism's door are less than 20 years ago (Fall of Soviet Union, at least, 1989). Islam? Well Islam still goes merrily on, while liberals turn a blind eye and laughingly try to draw comparisons, more than 500 years old.
But give me the POSITIVES of each society, Christian, Atheist and Islam. Sorry, but on the scale, Islam and Atheism, come appalling short.
Like I said, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. - BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They should do that here. I'd get a lot more work done.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Bwahahahahaa!
This is your refutation of me???? The fact that all cultures have a creation story???????????
All cultures have some kind of methods of doing away with bodily excrement too, which doesn't include the kind on-line! But what in the hell does that have to do with the subject, other than to vainly try to sound more intelligent? (and you failed btw)
What do creation stories have to do with the positives of Christianity vs. the deficit of such positives in Islam? Nothing! It's just a way to change the subject, if you know you are losing on the subject. (and that's pretty obvious)
Then you try the obvious obfuscation. That because the Russians had the Russian or Eastern Orthodox Church, than means the SOVIETS did. EEEEEE! Sorry. Want to try again in Double Jeopardy? The fact is the Soviet Union closed churches, demolished churches. The only exception being during the Siege of Leningrad where Stalin reopened the churches (only until after the Siege), because people needed the moral booster, and they weren't getting it from Stalin.
No sorry, the official state religion of Soviet Russia was atheism. No matter how you try, you can't blame the over 100 million people killed under communism, at the door of Christianity. And you can't rationalize away the positives of Christianity, by pretending those deaths never happened.
In fact, communism, aka, atheism has killed more people in the last 100 years, than the 1,000 years past that atheists leave at the door of Christianity. But, of course, that is going to be a huge debate, because the Christian bigots will try to assume ALL EUROPEAN WARS as being religiously inspired, and will ignore all other and political or economic rationale.
As for the idea China is becoming more permissive???????? I guess we forgot about Tia-men Square there didn't we? Sorry, but supplanting fact for your liberal fiction that under leftism we all end up singing Kumbya (except we can't sing "My Lord" under penalty of death) just doesn't work. Forced abortions is more permissive?????????
You have to be a guy right? Only a guy would think forced abortions is more permissive. Kind of gives you an idea of the kind of dream society liberal men would like to live in, doesn't it?
And YET again you prove me right. You bring up the "Dark Ages" because that, frankly is where liberalism is stuck and the last time they ever noticed a religion besides their own. However, as I said above and what set you off, the Dark Ages was a very LONG time ago. The deaths at atheism's door are less than 20 years ago (Fall of Soviet Union, at least, 1989). Islam? Well Islam still goes merrily on, while liberals turn a blind eye and laughingly try to draw comparisons, more than 500 years old.
But give me the POSITIVES of each society, Christian, Atheist and Islam. Sorry, but on the scale, Islam and Atheism, come appalling short.
Like I said, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I too, will NEVER submit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Didn't open the link did you?
- signals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And why Al Gore is an idiot even by UN standards:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=160412 - signals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Something that made me go Hmmmm...
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.345177169&par=0 - JimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@there
Are you joking me? Do you honestly believe our troops are mass murdering Muslims? Now if we had, oh I don't know, flown some planes into some buildings, or maybe blown up some embassies, or maybe if we had been blowing up planes in mid air (oops were not supposed to remember those, because they happened before we got into the Middle East), then maybe we would be mass murdering Muslims.
If you believe that the Muslims are attacking us because we are in the Middle East, then you are demonstrating just how little you know about world history. Muslims have been attacking the US and Israel long before we ever entered the Middle East or even before Israel was established as a country at the end of WW2. Here is another bit of information for you, long before we got there, the Koran preached that the Jews are pigs and you and I are dogs (unless you're Jewish, in which case you're a pig). Long before we got there, the Koran preached to Muslims that they should take over the world either by converting us to Islam, or killing us.
I'm not sure I understand your statement about the Israeli flag and marching through the streets. I think you are trying to make the statement that Israel some how took over the Palestinian land. But I guess you don't count the fact that Israel has always been Israeli land. It was Israeli land before WW2, so I'm not sure what your statement is. Even the Koran says that the Jews lived in that land. Are you asking me if I would love to have American flags marching through Brooklyn, then yes, I would.
As far as being paranoid, I'm not paranoid, I'm educated, and because of it, I know what is coming down the road. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5 Bwahahahahaa!
This is your refutation of me???? The fact that all cultures have a creation story???????????
All cultures have some kind of methods of doing away with bodily excrement too, which doesn't include the kind on-line! But what in the hell does that have to do with the subject, other than to vainly try to sound more intelligent? (and you failed btw)
What do creation stories have to do with the positives of Christianity vs. the deficit of such positives in Islam? Nothing! It's just a way to change the subject, if you know you are losing on the subject. (and that's pretty obvious)
Then you try the obvious obfuscation. That because the Russians had the Russian or Eastern Orthodox Church, than means the SOVIETS did. EEEEEE! Sorry. Want to try again in Double Jeopardy? The fact is the Soviet Union closed churches, demolished churches. The only exception being during the Siege of Leningrad where Stalin reopened the churches (only until after the Siege), because people needed the moral booster, and they weren't getting it from Stalin.
No sorry, the official state religion of Soviet Russia was atheism. No matter how you try, you can't blame the over 100 million people killed under communism, at the door of Christianity. And you can't rationalize away the positives of Christianity, by pretending those deaths never happened.
In fact, communism, aka, atheism has killed more people in the last 100 years, than the 1,000 years past that atheists leave at the door of Christianity. But, of course, that is going to be a huge debate, because the Christian bigots will try to assume ALL EUROPEAN WARS as being religiously inspired, and will ignore all other and political or economic rationale.
As for the idea China is becoming more permissive???????? I guess we forgot about Tia-men Square there didn't we? Sorry, but supplanting fact for your liberal fiction that under leftism we all end up singing Kumbya (except we can't sing "My Lord" under penalty of death) just doesn't work. Forced abortions is more permissive?????????
You have to be a guy right? Only a guy would think forced abortions is more permissive. Kind of gives you an idea of the kind of dream society liberal men would like to live in, doesn't it?
And YET again you prove me right. You bring up the "Dark Ages" because that, frankly is where liberalism is stuck and the last time they ever noticed a religion besides their own. However, as I said above and what set you off, the Dark Ages was a very LONG time ago. The deaths at atheism's door are less than 20 years ago (Fall of Soviet Union, at least, 1989). Islam? Well Islam still goes merrily on, while liberals turn a blind eye and laughingly try to draw comparisons, more than 500 years old.
But give me the POSITIVES of each society, Christian, Atheist and Islam. Sorry, but on the scale, Islam and Atheism, come appalling short.
Like I said, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. - there, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@JimDigg
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Are you joking me? Do you honestly believe our troops are mass murdering Muslims? Now if we had, oh I don't know, flown some planes into some buildings, or maybe blown up some embassies, or maybe if we had been blowing up planes in mid air (oops were not supposed to remember those, because they happened before we got into the Middle East), then maybe we would be mass murdering Muslims.
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According to official sources around 50 thousand Iraqs have been killed since the US invasion. (roughtly 20 times the number of Americans killed during 9/11) However... my reference was toward how the right is trying to justification future atrocities... not the current mess. I've debated with many hardline rightwingers who want us to nuke populated cities in the middle east. This potentially can run the death toll into the hundreds of millions if a full blown war broke out. (not to mention Pakistan already has nukes and might nuke major US cities too if we start attacking all Muslim nations)
If that happened I would say that would make the neocons the new gold standard for evil (easily besting the Nazis)
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If you believe that the Muslims are attacking us because we are in the Middle East, then you are demonstrating just how little you know about world history. Muslims have been attacking the US and Israel long before we ever entered the Middle East or even before Israel was established as a country at the end of WW2.
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There were no hostilities related to specifically Islam on US soil before the Israeli/Palestinian situation. I think Israel should exist (and be safe) now that so many Jewish people moved there but it was PURE colonialism that started with the British and the Balfour Accord..
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Here is another bit of information for you, long before we got there, the Koran preached that the Jews are pigs and you and I are dogs (unless you're Jewish, in which case you're a pig). Long before we got there, the Koran preached to Muslims that they should take over the world either by converting us to Islam, or killing us.
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Oh pah-lease spare me propaganda. Of course you can find some extremists that believe that but only a bigot would believe that's what the majority want. Muslims are just like any other people... they just want to get on with their lives, raise a family and make a living. Kinda hard to do if you under constant threat of nuclear attack from the US or Israel. (What. Did you think only Israelis and Americans are scared of getting nuked?)
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I'm not sure I understand your statement about the Israeli flag and marching through the streets. I think you are trying to make the statement that Israel some how took over the Palestinian land. But I guess you don't count the fact that Israel has always been Israeli land. It was Israeli land before WW2, so I'm not sure what your statement is.
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Really? And here I though only a small minority of Jewish people lived in the area and Israel did not exist prior to the 1940s. I guess the area hasn't been called Palestine since biblical times after all. That sure must be part of some slick Muslim conspiracy to have changed all them bibles in hotel rooms across America that call the area PALESTINE. (and has been called such since before Christ)
If coming back to the land after a 3000 year departure is legitimate....then wars would never come to an end. The only reason why Jewish people got away with colonizing the place was because of guilt after WW2 and the holocaust. It was a terrible thing but it's NO justification to screw other people of a homeland. Today Palestinians are being shoved into ghettos and Israelis are responsible for oppressing them... just like the Nazis did to them in the mid-thirties. Did you know they do various forms of demographics control in Israel to keep it "jewish"? Bet not eh?
And no politician in America says squat about it because they are terrified of getting screwed by powerful Jewish media interests. Some Jewish people like to play the "anti-semitism" card every time someone makes a legitamate criticism of Israel. Well I'm not anti-semetic however this does not mean all Israelis are angels that can do no wrong either. It's utter ***** what the Palestinians have had to endure for 60 years and people wonder why middle east hates us.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE SHOVED INTO A GHETTO AT GUNPOINT AND HAD YOUR PROPERTY BULLDOZED?
And Mr. Educated... why don't you check the voting records of UN over the last 60 years. The US has consistantly been the ONLY country that vetos resolutions against Israel. the vote in the GA goes something like 170-2 every time some sort of sanctions were put up for a vote.
The chicken came home to roast. They can try and sweep it under the rug but it won't change the immorality of it.
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Even the Koran says that the Jews lived in that land. Are you asking me if I would love to have American flags marching through Brooklyn, then yes, I would.
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That's not want I was saying. What I was saying was how would you like if Muslim Americans suddenly planted a flag with Muslim religious iconography in DC and told you you are now parrt of some Muslim country? Well that's basically what Israelis did in the forties then used US military hardware to keep themselves intact.
Did you know the US taxpayer has funded Israel 100 BILLION dollars in foreign aid since that time? That's not a typo. Israel (pop 9) is the number one benefactor of US foreign aid during that time. Where did you think all those weapons used against Lebanon and Palestinians and various other middle east nations came from hmmmm?
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As far as being paranoid, I'm not paranoid, I'm educated, and because of it, I know what is coming down the road.
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Your obviously only have very very superficial knowledge of the situation.
I know very well what the right wants to happen down the road (the aforementioned mass murder via nuclear holocaust) but I also know that if it happens unlike WW2 they will go it alone internationally. And if it came to that....I wouldn't be at all surprised if the leaders of the rightwing were eventually put up for war crimes
The Jihadists are pricks. The hardline Israelis are pricks. The hardline rightwingers are pricks. These violent selfrighreous ***** are exactly what is responsible for all this trouble
The only hope there is of solving this peacefulyl is voting Democrat to get rid of the paranoid Randroid fruitcakes in Washington and working with the UN to create a viable Palestinian state. Terrorism is here to stay but as long as we don't have any enemy nations... we don't have to worry about a massive nuclear attack.
Otherwise Americans are begging.... BEGGING.... to be secretly nuked. Might not even be Muslims. Some one else could do it knowing full well the Muslims would be nuked for it. There sure would be plenty of motive considering how Americans are viewed on the international scene.
This is not the position I want to be in.
The neocons are idiots that are destroying America's security by making more enemies every day. Security and morality comes by building strong international relations and seeking peaceful resolutions to problems.....not behaving like the Gestapo.
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