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Corporate America has always used war to steal

nytimes.com — Corporate America has always used war to steal as much as they could. "Unless Congress closes a gaping hole in the law against war profiteering, companies ripping off taxpayers in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars may never be fully prosecuted. This is because the latest conflicts are not declared wars." Read on.

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  • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -119/+13First to bury. Eat it suckers.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -8/+42Creeps like you bring about so much of the pain, tragedy, sickness of spirit, loss of hope, and, worse - can't hold down your fury at the invisible enemy? How did you get so hateful, anti-life, and cowardly? We'll see if you can survive a lengthy confinement in places like Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Diego Garcia, Spandau?
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -35/+8I spent a year on Diego Garcia. Aside from the lack of heterosexual women, it wasn't bad.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -8/+27Too bad it didn't have the boys you like, go back and play your bored games OK junior member and mommy-women hater. Get out of the basement and log off the computer for once in ten years and perhaps you'll see some batsqueeze you can call home....
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -31/+7You're just so sexy when you talk bad to me.
        Shave your legs and we'll hook up.
      • Brownds, on 07/09/2008, -7/+1@ileen4justice & keymanjim2
        You both need to STFU. Diego Garcia is a resort more than a prison. And there is only 1 Airforce Unit in the world that spends more than 180 days there and even then the still rotate the personal every 180 days it's the aircraft that stay up to a year. And that is because of the region this Aircraft resides in the states. The Salty moisture of DG causes corrosion issues with the fuselage of this aircraft because of the special paint it has. I know all this because I was in that unit from 2000 to 2004.
      • denizen42, on 07/09/2008, -1/+8Reptiles don't grasp reason, or morals.
      • forgottenhope, on 07/10/2008, -2/+4obama supports domestic spying like mccain, ***** you all
    • altgeeky1, on 07/09/2008, -0/+17First to be buried you meant?

      Back to the topic... doesn't matter where you stand on the war... why would you support people who rip off the troops?
    • MusicMagi, on 07/09/2008, -0/+8losers like this only act out in this fashion to get attention from people who would otherwise ignore them.
    • blanketfury, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I've always wanted to meet an oxygen thief.

      It's been quite an honor, keymanjim2.
    • CryRightardCry, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3Congratulations, you are the #1 Corporate warmonger shill on digg today!

      Hey, I understand you are an unethical and dishonest person, but you cheer criminals?
      Why are you so proud to bury something that demands responsibility from corrupt companies?

      Ladies and gentlemen, a typical rightard traitor. No morals, no ethics, and a willingness to cheer for crime and corruption.

      I don't believe for a second you served in ANY service. Most of you rightards like to play pretend at being men. The bigger the right wing liar the less chance they ever did anything useful with their life.

  • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -95/+8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9bPrUark4
    • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -37/+3I thought you libtards would like DMR. Especially since the lead singer went on to design men's dresses.
      • bbqsalad, on 07/10/2008, -2/+2Great song, I would like to put my balls in your mouth if thats ok?
  • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -96/+10ileen has abandoned her own post. But not before imposing Godwin's Law:

    "FYI y'all. Have a great night and if you get a chance bury the neo-nazi comments on the article. Peace, love and granola!"

    The tofu has gone to her brains.
    • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -18/+4This woman seems about as nutty as Jamey Barisoff. Added as a friend for comedic purposes.
    • CryRightardCry, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2LOL
      Loser, if you are so ***** dumb you can't figure out that people think you are a loser and bury you, then you are PERFECT as a rightard shill.

      It has become obvious that the most fulfilling relationship in your life is being buried on digg and shouting to the other rightards.
      How come you pathetic bitches go after ileen and not me?
      Afraid to take on men?
      YEAH, that's the ticket! You cowardly bitches go after the women because you aren't afraid of them.
      (Except when they take their clothes off.)

      Sigh.
      Why am I not surprised that the same cowardly traitors choose to attack women posters and leave the men alone?
      Sure says a LOT about them, doesn't it?
      What do we call males in our society who are too ***** to take on other men, but instead attack women?
      Cowards? UN-men? Keymanjim2 and his fellow right wing "crime is good" shills?
  • JekJob, on 07/09/2008, -9/+68keyman, get a life.
    • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -47/+6Give me yours. You're not using it.
      • fireashes, on 07/09/2008, -4/+16if you even get a life you will waste it so whats the purpose of giving it?
    • geoken, on 07/09/2008, -11/+4Wow, that was a good one. Grade 3 students around the world are ROTFL.
    • Seidoger, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5So basically, this guy (keymanjim2) supports profiteering over innocent people?

      I will never understand those people with pure evil in front of them and going with it, against all logic and compassion for themselves and their peers. Of course other than lacking important cognitive functions and / or not being thought to try and be smart from an early age.

      I found this article very interesting and it answered many of my own questions (I had always wondered why the old style "We declare war on " wasn't seen anymore as a special bulletin on national TV)

      "keyman, get a life."
      Again, I think he should just cancel his, it would make ours more enjoyable.
  • Fangsinmybeard, on 07/09/2008, -5/+40This is going to boil over into the biggest national ***** of all time.
    • BeefBaron, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6No one there will notice; they're too busy watching American Idol.
      • brokensystem, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2Ain't that the truth, more mind dumbing brainwashing *****.
  • GrandmaSheila, on 07/09/2008, -12/+62Godwin's law is a ***** rhetorical device legitimated by Nazis and Nazi lovers, to stop people naming them for what they are: sociopaths, pillagers, and murderers. The "rationale", using the term very loosely, is that nothing anybody does could possibly be as bad, or worse, than what the Nazis did. But to assert that is an utter lie, as history demonstrates over and over again. "Nazis", in one form or another, are always with us, have always and forever been among us, and always will be. The Godwin dodge is camouflage, a ***** deflection, an evasion, and denial of truth. Naturally, it's used constantly by little bootlickers like key. They really need it these days.
    I call the end to Godwin. Nazism and Fascism is alive and well, and flourishing here, as the idiot above unwittingly proves. Time to call a spade a spade, and a Nazi, a Nazi.
    • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -24/+9Wrong.
    • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -21/+6Consider the source:
      "A 57 year old Feminist, & Atheist grandmother of 2 darling girls, I collect DVDs of classic movies, & love Comedy best of all. It helps. Interested in Politics, Civil Liberty,Science, Environmental concerns."
      • MarkusGarvey, on 07/09/2008, -5/+16hey there little troll boy...guess your mom didn't make it down to the basement with your meds...isn't it past your bedtime?...you have quite the cast of characters as friends...now get up to bed now boy...this is adult time..
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -20/+5"A 1 year-old gentleman from My Mother (US) who joined Digg on January 19th, 2006"

        You're going to choke on this one.
      • MarkusGarvey, on 07/09/2008, -4/+16oh my!..."You're going to choke on this one"...sounds like a threat to me...better watch your step!...
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -2/+20i give him 2 weeks tops before he gets himself banned
    • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -11/+18FAIL
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

      "Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact"

      In other words ileen needs to stop running around calling everyone a nazi because it invalidates any point that she might have had.

      Also for woman 'of a certain age' you sure have jack for world perspective. go to china then speak out against the government. then you will know what a police state really is. because you can't post stuff like this post in china with out catching a bullet to the dome.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -3/+16Point 1: I don't call everybody "Nazis" -- just those who are.......like Bush whose grandpa and daddy directly funded the Third Reich and who you sleep with.

        Point 2: Have you been to China??? I've lived in a communist country when it was communist. I've confronted riot police, have you??

        Point 3: While Hitler might have been more explicit with his hate of certain groups of people, you and the Bush crime family certainly base your faith and politics on pure HATE.

        Point 4: Wake up and smell the fascism. Do you know the definition? Go look it up.

        Point 5: Have you been to China and spoken up? What happens to every person who does? Does China spy on all their citizens and collect all their emails, search habits, where they used their credit card, their phone conversations? Well we do. Oh yeah, and if you haven't read the news lately, GITMO's torture manual was lifted from the Chinese during the Korean war......try again twisted rancid Nazi batsqueeze Bush crime family lovin' America-hatin ignoramus!
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -13/+51) i have been called a nazi by at least 3 ultra liberals on digg lately. I'm for small government and personal freedoms.
        2)no and I call ***** on your claim to have protested in a communist country
        3)again you are the one spewing hate
        4)you are the one who needs a dictionary - let me help you
        fas·cism –noun
        1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
        Remember that your liberal congress keeps giving bush money for the war. He is not a dictator just because you say he is.
        5)no I would never go some place know for suppressing dissidents and criticize the government. I like that we live in America and can say crazy ***** like BUSH IS A NAZI without reproach. And since your boy obama is just as complicit in allowing congress to take away our right you might one to change your profile pic. and the gitmo practices are close to what the Japanese used on us in WWII. In fact torture methodology has been around long enough that you don't need a hand book.

        SO JUST GO AHEAD AND CALL ME A NAZI AGAIN YOU IGNORANUS
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -2/+16As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." (Your definition is from the larger dictionary companies that have been bought up by multinational corporations.)

        " If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. ... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead."

        "Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after 'the present unpleasantness' ceases."

        " The symptoms of fascist thinking are colored by environment and adapted to immediate circumstances. But always and everywhere they can be identified by their appeal to prejudice and by the desire to play upon the fears and vanities of different groups in order to gain power. It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice. It may be shocking to some people in this country to realize that, without meaning to do so, they hold views in common with Hitler when they preach discrimination..."

        They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."

        "The myth of fascist efficiency has deluded many people. ... Democracy, to crush fascism internally, must...develop the ability to keep people fully employed and at the same time balance the budget. It must put human beings first and dollars second. It must appeal to reason and decency and not to violence and deceit. We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels."

        "...Out of this modern civilization, economic royalists [have] carved new dynasties.... It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction.... And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man...."

        ~ Vice President Henry Wallace

        You American fascists who would want former CEOs as President, Vice President, House Majority Whip, and Senate Majority Leader, and write legislation with corporate interests in mind, don't talk to We The People about their real agenda, or the harm it does to small businesses and working people. Instead, as Hitler did with the trade union leaders and the Jews, they point to a "them" to pin with blame and distract people from the harms of their economic policies.

        Look up the definition for lemming.

        Oh, and I was in a communist country facing riot police -- you are welcome to see my pictures if you wish. But first, you must rid yourself of your ignorance and hate. I will pray for you and give you all the love in my heart....
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -4/+3wow TLDR
        JKJK

        First off stop calling people nazis. it doesn't help your point.

        Now I looked up the american heritage and this is what it says
        http://www.bartleby.com/61/57/F0045700.html
        the rest IMHO is your pontification and you seem to not be able to get it through your head that I am pretty much a libertarian. i voted green in 2k because I thought that Gore and Bush both suck. IN 2k4 I voted democrat. I'm more of a conservative libertarian. Not a Ron Paul nut job though.
        Let me also point out this. Obama will win in a landslide. Then there will be a large influx of LEFT LEANING fascism (according to what you feel is fascism).

        Also I am still calling BS on your protest story. What country? And post a pic in your profile for my viewing pleasure.

        And on a more personal note I am glad to have met another Christian on digg. We are in the minority here. So we can agree to disagree on politics but once the dirty antichristian bigotry rears its ugly head lets make sure we are on the same side.

        I'll pray for you too †
      • sodade, on 07/09/2008, -0/+8"dirty antichristian bigotry"

        That's ***** laughable. Christians are the majority in American society as evidenced by all the votes for GWB just because he gave lip service to your infantile attitudes about abortion and homosexuality.

        Personally, as a pragmatist, I am all for the idiot masses believing in a religion of peace and turning the other cheek, but too many of you don't really believe in that part. To the ***** lions with you.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -8/+3Christians are not the majority on digg.
        remember the creation museum thing. there were score of comments like ban Christianity . then there was the scientology trend. it was all well and good but because this is digg we had lots of 'after we are done with the scientologists we are gonna take down the christians'. then anon posted the video saying they were only after sceintology and that you should respect other beliefs. digg is so unbelievably tasteless towards Christians around Christmas its not even funny.

        oh and guess what - every president ever gives lip service to being a christian.

        at least you aren't a bigot though so way to take the high road (sort of)
      • ISIfunded911, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3Hitler and the Nazis were necrophiles.
        Capitalism is necrophile. It destroys the planet to accumulate money.
        So the essence of Hitler is very actual.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3Oh Mikey, please point out when I said I was Christian? I know you read the small print, right? I really don't care if you believe me or not, I now the truth and I feel comfortable with that. Thanks again for the attention and love.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1you quoted bible verses in this thread responding to MarkEarhart and you keep saying you are going to pray for me. i mean i've heard of stupid but you really take the cake. also aren't you supposed to be suing me into submission right about now? where is that email? i really really want to get you disbarred for a frivolous law suit
    • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -7/+8I don't like Godwin's Law, but you are ***** crazy. Where did you get this idea that Godwin's Law is a Nazi tool?
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -10/+10joe ileens superliberal friends are all ***** crazy. you will be called a nazi if you disagree with them.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -3/+7Wrong again JOE and Mike (hey Mike, thanks for giving me jcm267's name). If you read the above comments you will see that we, unlike you neoconned, actually base our labels on accurate information and actually read........when will you ever back up your hate with valid peer-reviewed or articles with journalistic integrity? I know, you are the children that were left behind.

        P.S. Did you know that you and all your bat-friends are voting and acting against your own self-interests? Oh, and get a job.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -5/+4again i'm not a neocon - you seem to have missed the part where I told you i voted green in 2k and democrat in 2k4. AND I AM TYPING IN CAPS TO LOUDLY POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN UNCIVIL TO ME AND RESORTED TO NAME CALLING.
      • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -5/+4All you have to do is click on my profile to get my first name, Ileen. You aren't terribly bright.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -5/+3i like when she told keymanjim2 DONT USE MY NAME
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -6/+3I try not to read her insane rantings. I just like to make her foam at the mouth.
        She has a picture of herself on her profile-WOOF
      • kemp34, on 07/09/2008, -1/+5New law, anyone who says "***** crazy" more than once a month, automatically loses the debate.
    • geoffg, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2FAIL

      The NAZI's were hugely anti "war-profiteering"

      The 25 point Programme of the NSDAP

      Point # 12

      12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

      http://www.schoolshistory.org.uk/ASLevel_History/2 ...

      History is a funny thing.
      • RationalXubrnce, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1 The war profiteers in Germany were very largely Jewish so it pretty much stands to reason that the Nazis would have had a problem with it.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Yeah, the Nazis just funneled their money through other war profiteers like Grandpa Bush. Stay awake.
  • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -10/+20@ileen if you don't like keymanjim2 just wait until you run up against the bury brigade.
    • Hangly, on 07/09/2008, -1/+10You misspelled "Department of Strategic Influence." Hope this helps.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -9/+11All you abused kids (did mommy ignore you when daddy was drinking) can only threaten with hate and violence -- it's so passe. I can't wait for the day when you actually cite to a book or a valid source for your information besides the repeated propoganda you say over and over to yourselves from your favorite buds in the KKK, the neo-Nazis, and the neo-conned. It's sad really. I will pray for you and bestow all the love in my heart for all you children left behind.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -6/+8i've threatened no one. but it is telling that you resort to ad hominem attacks
      • MasterTroll, on 07/09/2008, -4/+2I like how you assume that anyone different from you or your opinions are automatically lumped into those stereotypes. Hey, I'm going to make a joking, seemingly unintelligent comment -- I must have some sort of affiliation with the KKK! Neocons FTW.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2No Mike, you just use your lemming friends to do it for you.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2@mikesbaker no, no threats, just comments like these: "awesome - what a ***** windbag she is. . . now if I were to post her private phone number home address and SSN that might break some federal laws. and that took about 1 minute to find all that ***** out." Let's get back to the topic..oh and thanks for keeping your agreement with me.....
  • Hangly, on 07/09/2008, -6/+39Remember that 4th of July weekend when the Digg trolls were all on vacation? That was a good couple days.
  • allowners, on 07/09/2008, -3/+46This has been known for a long time. When will we take the reins of government from the plutocratic war profiteers? Is there anything more morally reprehensible than war for profit?

    War is a Racket
    By General Smedley D. Butler

    War is just a racket. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket
    • Infidelcastr0, on 07/09/2008, -0/+9 "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
    • rz8472, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6The coincidence is that the only president who imposed anti-profiteering laws was also the one that was the target of the Business Plot - Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

      He would probably be labeled as some sort of Red Socialist today who wants to do away with capitalism, stop innovation, and hates America.
    • Dukeye, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4War is A Racket, 'nuff said. Until enough people are properly educated on it, governments will continue to sucker their own poor people into killing other poor people for the profit of others.
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1oops i reposted the same piece further down. War is a Racket, a fantastic, revelationary piece of writing that all should read and heed!!
  • allowners, on 07/09/2008, -2/+15A bit of perspective, something the Warrior's for Satan have learned from China:

    Torture Techniques Copied from Communists
    http://www.jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-feed/7-jbs-n ...
  • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -29/+7Buried as inaccurate.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -5/+13Cite your source you child left behind. You say "inaccurate" yet ALWAYS fail to cite to anything that would support your position. That's the difference between open-minded thinking brain cell filled progressives and psychotic self-hating nazis! Did you actually read the article? It's a statute (you might not know that term -- it means codified law) on the books, you know, the United States Code -- so if it's "inaccurate" then do you mean the law as written is inaccurate? Here's a test: go read the codified law, research how much money and how many contracts have been awarded to Darth Cheney's buds and report back -- oh and can you tell me where that $8 billion is that they lost?

      P.S. If they took the profit out of war there would be no war. Last test-- which President warned against the military-industrial complex and was he a true hawk or a chicken hawk? Awaiting your answer.......
      • Conspiracy20, on 07/09/2008, -3/+9 If they were so strong on their stances, they should have no problem explaining. They know their position can't stand sunlight, so they attack yours.
      • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -11/+4Why don't you back up your statements? I wasn't the one making the assertion, Ileen.
      • Apophis574, on 07/09/2008, -8/+5Why are you on the computer ileen? Why are you not back in the KITCHEN MAKING ME A SANDWICH WOMAN??
    • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -7/+7ileen4justice - master of the ad hominem and the reducto hitlerum
  • jcm267, on 07/09/2008, -20/+7Ileen's heartwarming shout to me:

    Joe, stay away from me ..... you neoconned children left behind only spew hate and ignorance......when you read a book try to befriend me again.
    • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -10/+5i think i will friend her too just to piss her off
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -4/+9Go ahead...it doesn't piss me off, I feel like I'm helping the uneducated hatemongers of society....so please please please keep trying to be my friend and commenting, I welcome it......come on guys. Oh, and I'm praying for you and all the unconditional love in my heart goes forth to you all. By the way, did you all meet in some poor rehab facility? Seems like you're going through withdrawal.......speak to you soon little boys...
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -9/+4Educated does not mean intelligent. Especially with our current colleges. They're more liberal recruiting grounds than educational facilities.
        I never went to college and retired when I was 38. You went to college and gave up on life.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -5/+2and that's what I am back in school for Electrical Engineering. ***** half of my friends with degrees (I don't have one now) make less money than I do.
      • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1So let me get this straight...none of you work or have jobs. I'm psychic I tell you!
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2***** is not spelled psychic.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -5/+7Did you mention I made this personal comment to you when you tried to be my friend? Did you read a book yet?
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -10/+7you have got to be the most condescending bitch I have ever met. its easy to be an 'activist' when you are a house wife isn't it. lucky for you your husband installed a computer in the kitchen so you can change the world by posting articles to digg. please get laid it would seriously chill you out.

        your shout to me

        "Go back to your cave with your boys loving boys buddies who take out their childhood abuse by hating......I will pray for you...."

        you wanted to make this personal and nasty well you've got it you ugly *****. who ***** post pictures of themselves on digg? woof woof woof

        see you around digg you stupid bitch
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -10/+3But ileen has a lot of love to give:

        http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/keymanjim/i ...
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -8/+6mrs cantor i know you value anonymity so lets just keep the debate civil shall we? i apologize for not taking the high road and I will in the future but you need to watch what you say to me.
  • redcolumbine, on 07/09/2008, -1/+15Not news, but a commonly accepted fact. "Background noise." People have given up - "what can one person do?" Keep talking, keep digging, blast the blinders off - that's one thing one person can do.
  • MarkEarhart, on 07/09/2008, -3/+25Yes and I am getting damn sick and tired of fools who try to say otherwise.

    I am a born again Christian, but as you have noticed if you have been reading my comments I have an explosive temper. The "religious right," which I have never been a part of, is perhaps the most brainwashed bunch of people in the nation I am sad to say. I am neither categorically conservative or liberal, nor am I a moderate. I was enough of a rebel that I decided to think for myself, so I have acquaintances from one end of the classic political spectrum to the other.

    One such person, who is a die hard Republican, just doesn't get it. We made an agreement that if one of us e-mailed the other one something that pissed us off we would just delete it for the sake of preserving our friendship. I was drawn to her by her screen name on the site I first ran across her on. She called herself "Granny .357, for obvious reasons.

    Anyway, this woman sends me newsletters from Gary Bauer (spelling questionable), which I promptly delete because I can't stand to read the trash. He heads the American Family Values group. Here in the South, there is much talk about "family values" but I fail to see how that is a political issue. In fact I have heard related buzz words used to mesmerize conservative Christians until I tend to have fits when I hear such things.

    Anyway if you want someone to spit venom at he is a worthy candidate. The letter my friend sent me yesterday had some BS about the "Success of the Surge." I didn't read the *****, but I do wonder what defines success in Iraq. Is it the amount of Americans killed and injured, the numbers of Iraqis killed and injured, or just a grand tally of all the carnage?

    Now I've gotten myself all enraged again and my BP is going though the roof and my head feels like it is going to explode, so I'm going to take a break for a while.

    The answer lies in financial gain for a select few, but I think they enjoy the killing too.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -2/+9Please take a deep breath my friend. I hear you so loud and clear. I like to remind myself of these biblical quotes (there is a difference I believe from those "Christians" that only talk about the apocalypse and those that focus on the sermon on the mount):

      Amos 5:24 But let justice roll on like rivers, and righteousness like a mighty stream.

      Proverbs 31:8-9 Speak out for those who cannot speak, for the rights of all the destitute. Defend the rights of the poor and needy.

      Jeremiah 22:3 Thus says the LORD, "Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.”

      Ezekiel 45:9 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Enough, you princes of Israel; put away violence and destruction, and practice justice and righteousness. Stop your expropriations from My people," declares the Lord GOD.

      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?

      Exodus 22:21 "You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

      Psalm 72:4 May he vindicate the afflicted of the people, Save the children of the needy And crush the oppressor.

      Isaiah 58:6 "Is this not the fast which I choose, To loosen the bonds of wickedness, To undo the bands of the yoke, And to let the oppressed go free And break every yoke?

      Isaiah 58:7 "Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry And bring the homeless poor into the house; When you see the naked, to cover him; And not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

      Jeremiah 7:5 "For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor,

      Jeremiah 7:6 if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin,

      Jeremiah 21:12 O house of David, thus says the LORD: "Administer justice every morning; And deliver the person who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor, That My wrath may not go forth like fire And burn with none to extinguish it, Because of the evil of their deeds.

      Jeremiah 22:17 "But your eyes and your heart Are intent only upon your own dishonest gain, And on shedding innocent blood And on practicing oppression and extortion."

      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?

      Zechariah 7:9 "Thus has the LORD of hosts said, 'Dispense true justice and practice kindness and compassion each to his brother;

      Zechariah 8:16 'These are the things which you should do: speak the truth to one another; judge with truth and judgment for peace in your gates.

      Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Getting mad to the point where you are overstressing yourself physically isn't the answer, obviously...

      Finding a channel for your anger is the answer. There is so much injustice going on, the best thing you can do is find ways to combat the injustice, the ignorance, and bring justice and clear, rational, calm thinking to whatever the situation.

      Yep, take a deep breath.

      I've found that getting mad at my kid doesn't help either, and this is the kind of behaviour that easily translates from parenting to any demanding situation really: Staying calm and applying discipline where needed, supplying abundant love at all times.

      It doesn't matter whether the problem child is 2 years old or 52.
  • flavioribeiro, on 07/09/2008, -0/+21With war clouds gathering just two years ago, the House International Relations Committee met on October 3, 2002 and Representative Ron Paul offered a motion to declare war on Iraq. He announced his intention to vote against his own measure because he didn’t believe our nation should go to war against Saddam Hussein’s regime. But he wanted to remind his colleagues that they alone possessed war-making power. If they wanted to go to war against Iraq, he reasoned, they should vote to declare war as required by the Constitution.

    Committee Chairman Henry Hyde responded to Dr. Paul’s initiative with as clear a repudiation of the oath of office as has ever been uttered. He said, "There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and are no longer relevant to a modern society. Declaration of war is one of them. Your motion is inappropriate, anachronistic, and it isn’t done anymore." And that was that. The committee defeated Dr. Paul’s measure 45-0.

    http://www.jbs.org/index.php/issues/us-constitutio ...
  • randumbusername, on 07/09/2008, -6/+4so what, you big government lovers create the environment that is necessary for them to achieve what they want.
    • pintomp3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5it's the removal of legislation and increase in corporate campaign contributions that leads to stuff like this.
    • SuperMoses, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1You think they're going to war so they can fund social programs at home? Wow you're dumb.
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1If by "you big government lovers" you mean all the corporate lobbyists getting all the big government they can buy through campaign donations, then I agree wholeheartedly.
  • pintomp3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+8for a more detailed analysis of corporate war profiteering and the intentions for such wars, read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". here's a video preview:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kieyjfZDUIc
  • lazaruswws, on 07/09/2008, -12/+5Posted by another idiot liberal who thinks that Obama is the Messiah, as opposed to the idiot puppet Obama really is. The end of the free world will be Obama's fault if elected and idiots like those at the NY times run the oval office.
  • sixsixsixtimer, on 07/09/2008, -14/+2Another crypto-antisemite article blaming everything on the big companies and international bankers. When will the Stormfront trolls stay the hell in Stormfront?

    The troofer spammers are like just about any other spammer, they find new ways to get around the filters.
    • pintomp3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6wanting to go after those who push for war in order to increase profits is anti-semitic?
  • anillop, on 07/09/2008, -3/+4Corporations no matter where can profit off of war, just like politicians can. Like it or not war can create lots of change and progress when it is all said and done.
  • aRandomWalkHome, on 07/09/2008, -2/+2I love the idea that if we hand it over to government bureaucrat's with their pure intentions , infinite wisdom, and general warm fuzzy glow our murdering of hundreds of thousands of people would have went much better. No one is questioning whether businesses seek profits, or even exploit situations for their greedy self-interest, but who cast the votes to begin with? CONGRESS! And we the people are all to blame for allowing it to happen. And it is going to happen again with Iran, and again, and again, and again until we the people get the United States government out of our lives and out of every other country in the world. There is one and only one SOURCE of power in this country, and those are the people that write the laws and carry the guns. This does NOT mean that business is morally pure, but it DOES mean that Johnson & Johnson can't force me to buy their toothpaste.....but why do YOU pay your taxes? Out of pure love for your country?

    http://arandomwalkhome.blogspot.com/
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1...and who buys the votes that are cast in congress? The Corporations!

      Do a little more research and find out WHY those beureaucrats vote the way they do. They don't just because of pure evil and hate, it's much simpler and more base than that: greed.
  • Pstmann, on 07/09/2008, -0/+7War has always been profitable for someone, that is why there is so much of it.
  • Duositex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+4War!! Huhh God gawd yall!
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely profit..

    Whitfield and Strong are rockin and rollin in their graves.
    • RationalXubrnce, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1 I think you meant to say Tolstoy.
  • Temo1, on 07/09/2008, -4/+6My problem isn't with the very apparant extremism of Ileen's posts, but with the 5-7 diggs she keeps getting almost right after she posts. It's somewhat alarming that not only is there one person who is crazy enough to write what she writes, but that 5-7 people actually agree with her.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1What is "extreme" about my posts? Are you sitting and watching the diggs on comments seriously? I'm extreme with righteousness, justice, equality, fairness, and love. Damn right. If that's extremism, I'll take it. Thanks for more love....
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2yes I want to know the answer to that too. What is it about ileen's posts that you find "extremism"?

      Perhaps it's simply that what she posts is so at odds with the "reality" your TV tries to feed you?

      I really wish for more Americans to get a taste of what news is like outside of the US. It's still not the whole story most of the time, but it's a heck of a lot more of the story than the blinkered, highly filtered trickle of information available inside the US. This I have heard from american after american coming to my green shores. Their eyes are invariably opened.
  • Ihatehillary, on 07/09/2008, -9/+3Liberals have always used taxes to leech off the public.

    They pass taxes up the whazoo, but provide tiny loopholes to protect themselves and friends.
    The global warming scam is another crux for them. They always say oil and coal will make you sick, yet they are globetrotting around in their private jets and have carbon footprints the size of texas.
    Gun Control- The common people should not own guns, yet Pelousy has 3 firearm permits to carry.

    OMFG you idiots are lemmings. Please jump off the cliff, this lower end of the gene pool must die off.
  • boner4linux, on 07/09/2008, -8/+1Leave it to the NY Slimes to write an article worthy of a big steaming wagon-load of Marxist horse dung...
  • rrife, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Its not that corporations are using the war to steal from tax payers, it's that the govt is so poorly run by elected and non-elected officials (so don't blame it on any particular party) that they basically encourage companies and govt. employees and entities to piss away as much money as possible, not accomplish any goals or provide any service to taxpayers.
    • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1I've already said it several times here but i really should never tire of saying it... it's those very same companies that get those government contracts because they lobby government and give campaign contributions in order to get the contracts.

      Don't just blame the government, that would be shortsighted. Blame the whole system. The ones with the money are running it. Of the people, by the people, for the people seems like a bit of a pipe dream the way things are now.
  • MasterTroll, on 07/09/2008, -6/+6ileen, you are just as angry and frustrated as the people you accuse of being "abused" and "children left behind." You are *literally a troll.
    • ileen4justice, on 07/09/2008, -3/+3I'm not angry or frustrated. I am filled with love and peace. I just speak the truth. No hostility here. Love thy enemy. (By the way, I've been pretty accurate with my hunches about these guys, did you read the part where they admit they are unemployed? Might account for the misdirected hate.) Keep the love coming you all!! Oh...and did you happen to read the part where they want to bomb Iran? Any comments on that?
      • keymanjim2, on 07/09/2008, -2/+5Retired does not mean unemployed.
        Disbarred does though.
      • mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -2/+6NO HOSTILITY!!! ???
        what about the veiled threat of using a private eye to track down keyman and threatening to sue us. which by the way I am still waiting on.

        what about calling my wife a blow up doll?

        what about calling me a nazi fascist?

        what about calling my parents abusive alcoholics?

        what about calling me unemployed when I work 50 hour weeks and go to school full time?
      • keymanjim2, on 07/10/2008, -2/+3Don't worry Mike. I just gave her some serious advice about posting her entire life on the internet. If she's smart then she'll take it.
        Part of it was to change her name on this site. A simple search of her user name here gave me pictures of her and her family, her home and work addresses and even her Amazon wish list.
      • ssn697, on 07/10/2008, -2/+2Note to self:

        When Ileen calls you a nazi or a facist, it is the love and peace in her heart crying out...
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Me thinkst you protest too much. I never said you were unemployed. As to the rest, prove me wrong (and I was also referring to your trolling buds). So much for your peace agreement. Figures....
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2What are you nuts? I don't hide anything. It's so darn easy to find out about me, you think you found something. I never changed my user name. Go ahead, find out all you want. Oh, thanks for another death threat. By the way, do you ever talk about anything on topic or cite to a valid news source? I didn't think so.......
      • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Hey Mikey, how's this for hostility from your best friend?

        "Don't worry Mike. I just gave her some serious advice about posting her entire life on the internet. If she's smart then she'll take it." So glad you and your buds are staying on topic and citing to some news source.
  • dizilbdog, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Yeah that missing gaping hiole from war profiteering is called a sould and some decency and some form of morals.
  • BotchaMcCoola, on 07/09/2008, -1/+0You mean you folks don’t like those wonderfully patriotic commercials from Lockheed Martin and Boeing? If not, is it sour grapes for not getting in earlier to rip off the pinhead taxpayers?
  • MercedRocks, on 07/09/2008, -1/+4Hmm so somebody admits its US and our corporations and not the political parties WE and THEY shower with money to do our bidding.

    DEMs and REPs are both the same, ask Clinton why he bombed Serbia to smithereens over a few hundred dead Kosovoans while Rwandans were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
  • scarecrow2k6, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1Digg is an American site...saying all the bad stuff U.S has done won't never make a difference. The American's hate everything except themselves. Everyday there will be one of these articles saying how unjust America has been and all that stuff. We (outsiders) and You (Americans) all know what the truth is and we also know that nothing is gonna happen. So how about posting latest news on Physx from Nvidia supporting my 8800 GT or "How to do a hdd hack on Xbox 360"? That would be more informative than all these stuff. I'm too tired of hearing the World saying America is bad and America saying no I'm not.
    • czeman, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3"won't never"???
    • Aerandir, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1"Won't never...." lol

      If you are tired of the "same" ***** here, why you're still commenting? Go to Slashdot if you want Video Cards reviews and *****.

      Man, Canadians are funny people.
  • CyphreDias, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Red-necks say, "fine, let them them kill each other." Then I look at what is happening with the war in Iraq. The Christians are fighting the Muslim in a war that was highly encouraged by Israel (some say engineered by Israel). I'm sure that many Jews are sitting around saying, "let them kill each other!"

    Anyone who thinks Jews are not racist needs to study what the Talmud teaches
    Not even Satanism is more filled with hateful language. (I BELONG TO NO ORGANIZED RELIGION)

    I would like to see the Jewish leaders renounce the Talmud, but that would mean NOTHING because the Talmud teaches that Jews should hide their contempt for the (non-jew) and should not hesitate to deceive the non-Jew (WHO IS CONSIDERED AN ANIMAL AND NOT A PERSON ACCORDING TO THE TALMUD).

    This is a sad situation.
  • blipblipbeep, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Wow some beliefs are so screwed up.
  • Stevethegreat, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1And who was the one who didn't use war for stealing? I mean for thousands of years now those who rage wars (the elites) are in for the stealing of fame power and land (and in recent years energy). That's EXACTLY the nature of wars that's why they would seem ridiculous to an ET looking at us from a distance for the last thousands of years.
  • jamesfaction, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3read: War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler, written 1942:

    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisar ...

    The US has been run by war profiteers for well over a century.

    TO HELL WITH WAR!
  • czeman, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3Umm...Corporate America steals no matter what's going on.
  • JohnFromChicago, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3Let's see ... the bankers who own the the defense contractors loan the government 100's of billions who turns around and spends it to the defense contractors who are owned by the banks who loan the government 100's of billions ...

    This is the biggest con ever visited on the human race. It's foolish to think this is unique to America now ... these bankers have been running this scam all over the world since Jesus threw them out of the temple. It's high time we do likewise.
    • Iztikeit, on 07/10/2008, -0/+0I think you went a little far there.
  • rowjimmy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1it's textbook Keynesian economics - to stimulate a faltering economy, temporarily boost government spending in order to increase industry. fastest way to do that? generate a lot of blind fervor about a war that doesn't cause any visible damage, leading to exponential growth in supplies, arms, patriotic iconography, infrastructure, etc. then again, the whole thing backfires as soon as the cost of war outweighs the economic boost brought on by it...
    • ileen4justice, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1You mean classic fascism, don't you?
  • dankenstein, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the Nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains..." - Lincoln

    "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." - James Madison, Federalist No. 47

    "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
  • URnotheonly1, on 07/10/2008, -5/+3Buried. Get a ***** job loser!
  • tehxen3, on 07/10/2008, -1/+1Bureaucratic American Government has always used social programs to steal.
  • thoughtbeans, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2In war we trust by Corporate America
  • Kitrus, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2The NY Times is stepping it up. Good news.

    Only it took them a good couple of years...
  • jlhoben, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1We need a more democratic means of creating and reviewing currency creation. Take it out of the hands of private banks.
  • GreyHobbyHorse, on 07/11/2008, -0/+0Why should Congress do anything? They give out earmarks and contracts in exchange for contributions. Why do you think the corporations bundle money for their favorite Congresscritter. You scratch my back, I scracth yours. Did that go out of style?

    Earmarks are the biggest source of corruption ever invented by Congress.

    Lord Obama is just another one of them, sellout.
  • jamesfaction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Mike you need to take your own advice first and watch what YOU say before you can expect anyone else to heed your request.
  • itstodd, on 07/15/2008, -2/+1I dont think you could dream up a more stereotypical liberal story.
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