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- paintgrl, on 05/24/2009, -9/+733Except Jesus would look like a terrorist, so I am sure he be dragged off to a secret prison.
- Eupatorus, on 05/24/2009, -4/+389They're referring to the new and improved white Jesus. Not classic, middle-eastern Jesus. White Jesus stands for anything they wish and is always right.
- normlsparky, on 05/24/2009, -9/+248The Christian religious extremists have proven that, like their Muslim extremist counterparts, they can twist the meaning of their chosen religion to justify any action. Talibangelicals, indeed.
- clvngodess, on 05/24/2009, -9/+153Oh how I love the graphic on this page!
Do these people not recall the teachings of the gospels? What happened to the Sermon on the Mount? Do they not know the sheer hypocrisy of this thinking and behavior? Gasp. Waterboard me Jebus through the goal post of life? WTF? - inactive, on 05/24/2009, -46/+184I do believe that Jesus (well "their version" of who he was anyway) would have approved of killing all muslims that would not convert to their OWN brand of hatred and bow down before their own boogyman. right talibangelicals?
You believe that all that don't "ACCEPT" him as their own savior will ROT in some make believe hell. Nice lie to tell to frighten a child. Know what? Let go of that crap you were brainwashed with as a little kid... if you do, you might actually ENJOY life and what's left of it!
Give up that "live for eternity" crap... it's the one concept ALL phony religions share. Nice pipe dream wanting to live forever huh? If you believe you will or can...PROVE it! ;-) - Metavirus, on 05/24/2009, -9/+140I wonder which passages from the bible they're relying on. Maybe this? "Torture them, my brothers, for only through pain inflicted on the weakest among us shall thou reach the kingdom of heaven."
or maybe this
"Yea though I walk through the valley of torture, I will fear no evil: for King Bush art with me; Thy striking rod and Thy beating staff, they comfort me, for I know that the deeds of evil men were thwarted by Thy endless and wanton cruelty. In the name of the Stress Position, the Waterboard and the Sleep Deprivation, Amen."
Oh, those aren't actually in the Bible? Hmm, I'm drawing a blank then...
"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Luke 23:34) - apothekari, on 05/24/2009, -6/+128The Irony of worshiping the "man-god/god-man" who was TORTURED to death for THEIR sins is completely lost on them.
"All that brotherly love, peace on earth stuff?"
"***** that, lets remember over and over again, the excruciating torturous death of our Lord, cuz he gets reborn after and ascends to heaven, No harm, No foul."
"Why, He even hangs around my neck on his little torture implement, He loves it!"
Now I know why Jesus wept.
They know not what they do, No harm No foul. - Metavirus, on 05/24/2009, -6/+114yeah, suspected Middle Eastern Jesus "Beardy" McTerrorist would surely get at least a cavity search
- Tarnum, on 05/24/2009, -1/+99When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child:
but when I became a politician, I put away childish things like morals and decency. - FoxtrotYankee, on 05/25/2009, -21/+111Batman also would have approved of waterboarding.
Do you know what that doesn't matter?
Batman is also fictional. - pika2000, on 05/25/2009, -7/+88LOL @ white Jesus. I can see an episode of Family Guy about white Jesus.
- SystemicThought, on 05/25/2009, -0/+78Turn the other cheek?
Do unto others?
Eh.
I protested the US use of torture outside the White House in 2006. The protest was led by nuns. Sometimes the Catholics aren't ass-backwards. - novenator, on 05/25/2009, -3/+78Seriously dude, put down the crack pipe.
- Emperor03, on 05/25/2009, -3/+77As a Christian I can tell you that any other Christian that thinks Christ would have approved of torture is out of their mind.
The hypocritical "Christian Right" is making a religion of peace and love look horrible. People wonder why religion is losing ground in America, it's articles like this that show why. - shedtroll, on 05/25/2009, -3/+76"Do to others as you would have them do to you."
-Luke 6:31
So...Conservatives like to be waterboarded? - chompapotamus, on 05/25/2009, -3/+75it's almost like...they've created something to idolize. created...made up...i think i'm breaking ground here
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -7/+72Libs don't watch crappy television. We don't have time for it. We are too busy cleaning up your political mistakes. BTW, You do know that 24 is not a reality show.... right.
- fungie5, on 05/25/2009, -2/+66You're right. If Jesus decided that now was the time for the second coming, the Christian Right would take him for a 'harsh baptism' as soon as he showed up looking like he was born in Bethlehem.
- Dipsomaniac, on 05/25/2009, -2/+64So, as far as I can tell...
Because extraordinary rendition was started under Clinton, it's okay for Christians to be pro-torture? Dude, that's weak. - vapn420, on 05/25/2009, -5/+64Jesus is cool with waterboarding but I can't beat off without eternal damnation? See, this is why I refuse to follow organized religion.
- novenator, on 05/25/2009, -6/+63Thus why they are called 'Talibangicals'.
- SystemicThought, on 05/25/2009, -3/+57It's been said before: The 24 scenario only exists on TV, and in the minds of neocons.
- Chooxo, on 05/25/2009, -4/+56Jesus was into watersports?
- Apokalyps2547, on 05/25/2009, -5/+57"I am the Way, the Truth, and the TELL ME WHERE YOUR TERRORIST FRIENDS ARE!"
- Yermad, on 05/25/2009, -0/+51Humm.. guys, Jesus don't like the word "waterboarding", he prefer "enhance baptism".
- Aldanga, on 05/25/2009, -1/+50Just to make sure you weren't *****, I went and looked up that passage. Jesus is telling a parable in that passage and those words are of a master of dishonest servants, not Jesus to his followers.
Context is important. - butterpat, on 05/25/2009, -4/+53FTA - Since January 2006, the more than 250 religious organizations comprising the National Religious Campaign Against Torture have worked together to end U.S.-sponsored torture. During 2008, the religious community advocated for a Presidential Executive Order ending torture. It happened. On January 22, President Obama issued an Executive Order halting torture.
Now the task is to make sure that U.S.-sponsored torture never happens again. - BossKey, on 05/25/2009, -0/+48White Jesus also conveniently sheds the undesirable Socialist Un-American traits of Real Jesus, like, love your enemies, render unto Caesar the tax money he asked for, respect and help the poor, and hippie values like Peace and Love.
- realeiger, on 05/25/2009, -1/+48Seems to me that anyone who's actually bothered to read the gospels honestly and believes in them would have to be against both. So your point is lost on me.
- EarlOfLade, on 05/24/2009, -39/+86Christianity is a death and torture cult, what do you expect?
They worship the torture of a human being, their superhero was tortured and nailed to some wood and left for dead. They constantly are threatening everyone around them with eternal torture if they don't follow them into their death and torture cult.
Their god is the worst sadist imaginable, killing all children in a whole country among other things. It's a sick and twisted cult!
Are there really anyone who was surprised when it became obvious that USA torture prisoners? - Dipsomaniac, on 05/25/2009, -1/+47Wow, aadyss, you sure do think a lot of yourself, don't you?
Get over yourself, dude. Being shown that your reasoning is weak on Digg isn't "persecution". I'm getting the impression that it's more par for the course as far as you're concerned.
The reason you're not seeing a lot of criticisms of Clinton NOW is that he was president OVER 8 YEARS AGO. Go to the archives if you want to see that - you'll find plenty. - danthepiercer, on 05/25/2009, -2/+48wait a minute, you mean Jesus isnt an American?! youve got to be mistaken. maybe he just looks Mexican and is from Bakersfield or something.
surely you've got it wrong. - tdogg241, on 05/25/2009, -0/+45These people can't recall anything but Obama's middle name and the dollar menu.
- Berkana, on 05/25/2009, -0/+44No, he'd use water and call it "extreme baptism."
j.k. ^_~ - piieerrrree, on 05/25/2009, -0/+43Comment on the article
"What I find amazing is that Gary Bauer, in defense of his permission of waterboarding says that if "AMERICAN" lifes could be saved, it's ok to waterboard. How about if, say Icelanders' lives could be saved? How about Israeli lives? How about Pakistani or Palestinian lives?
I find it hard to accept that people who argue that human beings made in the image of God can have different "value" in God's eyes. Because if an American life is more valuable than the live of someone of another country, then Jesus truly came in vain. That's not religious faith. That's not even patriotism. That's jingoism of the worst sort: It claims that American citizens are of such privilege that the whole rest of the world doesn't count for much.
We can remove the parable of the Good Samaritan from the bible, for the point of this parable is "imagine your worst enemy [insert here] and THAT person helped the good person [ie, us]. Go and do likewise". If the Good Samaritan is an Iraqi, or a Muslim in general...or a member of al Qaeda...then what?"
<3 - themadrammer, on 08/18/2009, -3/+44Please provide a reference when Jesus raised his hand against anyone? Roman, Jew, Enemy, friend? Were did he say kill or attack anyone? In fact, he said Love your enemy etc.
Your claim that Jesus would approve killing Muslims is not based on anything in the Bible or the Christian religion (I'm not a Christian BTW). It's just your own view, which you're pushing onto someone else. - Immij, on 05/25/2009, -0/+40*Enhanced Baptism Techniques
- ironhide, on 05/25/2009, -2/+42http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/p ...
- Dipsomaniac, on 05/25/2009, -0/+40No, no. That's a rather weak strawman on your part. I'm saying exactly what I wrote. You should go back and look at it.
Now, what's with that pissy demand for polling? Where did the linked blog say that all conservatives, or x% of conservatives say that Jesus would be pro-torture? The author DOES cite Pew (last time I checked, a respected polling agency) in saying that a majority of churchgoers are pro-torture, so I don't think there's much to argue about there. That's not an opinion. - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -6/+45He would turn it in to wineboarding
- malcolmlo, on 05/25/2009, -3/+42Wow, just wow.
How far can the republican party go before it pisses off ALL of their party members.
Seems like its a good time for the religious conservatives to create their own party. This is the worst case of using religion for political justification i have seen yet. Any religious person who is not outraged by this or attempts to justify this should think about how they will explain their actions to god at the pearly gates ;-).
God: So what exactly were you thinking when you agreed with those stating Jesus would approve of torture?
Right wing religious sheep: Uh, I just agree with whatever the republicans say without thinking. I thought they speak for you God?
God: Lets put it this way, you wont find many of them in heaven. - shawnfromnh, on 05/25/2009, -5/+43Even this athiest knows that Jesus wouldn't be for war or killing so this waterboarding approval is apparently from some ***** who's forgotten the basics that their entire religion is based on.
- akhomestead, on 05/25/2009, -6/+40Yeah and their symbol is a dead guy hanging from a piece of wood.
- jeexbit, on 05/25/2009, -0/+32nah, but apparently they like to live in fear.
- Darthyoshiboy, on 05/25/2009, -2/+34I'm sure Jesus wouldn't get hung up on anything like how much that terrorist loves his family, or how he helped that old lady across the street that one time. Nah, he'd waterboard the crap out of that summabitch, and he'd do it just to make all those Americans spitting on his commandments happy.
Last time I checked (Had to Wikipedia this to make sure I didn't screw up): having other gods, having idols, taking the Lord's name in vain, not keeping the sabbath holy, not honoring your father and mother, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and coveting are all right up there in the same breath as killing. Show me a person that's not guilty of one of those, and then we'll talk about who Jesus is not going to be pissed at.
Like it or not, those terrorists are people too, they have some redeeming values just as much as anyone does, these so called Christians need to get over themselves. - yutt, on 05/25/2009, -3/+35Your criticism makes little sense, as in your belief system, the body becomes worm food as well. Where you differ with gayjesus is what happens to the human consciousness.
- IIAmusedII, on 05/25/2009, -1/+32Looks like the small percentage of Christians who actually follow Christ's teachings have some work to do.
- Berkana, on 05/25/2009, -2/+32Quote from a quote in the article:
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"It’s obvious He would not be happy with those who voted for the candidate who kills because it’s above his “pay grade” to know if they’re alive. Checking the Commandments, killing innocents is against the 5th. Because pro-aborts don’t know for sure life does not exist at conception, they are still willing to risk that it’s not killing."
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Indeed, killing innocents is against the 5th commandment, but George Bush's war did just that to many Iraqis, and these hypocrites didn't utter a peep of protest.
Why do these hypocrites oppose abortion, and simultaneously oppose welfare efforts which would help these single moms who chose life? Don't they care that it is precisely the prospect of economic hardship with a young child to raise that drives many pregnant single women to consider abortion? Did Jesus not teach that God desires "mercy, not sacrifice" when the pharisees made a big deal about his disciples not following their pet laws?:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthe ...
God is just as opposed to divorce, yet there is no cry to ban divorce. Of course, there are a million excuses for why, but in the end, it is not our Christian duty to force non-Christians to obey Christian moral standards; persuade people to repent and believe, yes, but counterproductive hypocrisy on the part of Christians makes all our attempts to persuade people to repent futile. If opponents of abortion are so deeply convinced that it is important not to let anyone abort, they'd better be willing to pay for the support of the many single moms who will subsequently be seeking welfare. If they don't think support of single moms is the role of the government but that it is the role of the church, they'd better be willing to tithe and give at a rate where the church can do that, especially considering that far fewer people go to church than pay taxes to support social welfare programs. And if they are not willing to make this kind of sacrifice for the sake of mercy, they should learn what it means when God says "I desire mercy, not sacrifice' and not demand sacrifices on the part of single moms to whom they are not willing to show mercy. - ZZeke, on 05/25/2009, -1/+31"So Atheists and Agnostics have embraced yet another blog [Library Grape], written by an obscure attorney from Chicago, which they accept as 'truth' in order to bash Christians"
Wow...an article shows up on digg, and now it's being "embraced" by atheists and agnostics? That's quite a stretch you're making there....
I'm an atheist, but I didn't have to "embrace" a blog to know that most of the hard-core Christian right approves of torturing "terror" suspects wholeheartedly, just as they "embraced" the perpetual "holy war" known as the "war on terror"...
So let me get this straight...atheists and agnostics are also democrats who approved of torture under Clinton, but not under Bush, is that what you're trying to say?
Sorry, but most of us atheists aren't as easy to pin down as most fundamentalist Christians when it comes to political leanings - probably because we're not a "unified" group to begin with. Also, I would like to add that while the tactic now known as "extraordinary rendition" was initiated during the Clinton administration, it was barely publicized at all until the Bush administration ramped up the program after 9/11, hence the common misconception that it was initiated by the Bush administration.
For the record, this atheist approves of neither administration, nor their handling of foreign policy affairs, nor their handling of domestic affairs, for that matter....but what really gets my goat more than anything are the legions of so-called "religious" Americans who support wars of aggression and tactics of torture as a policy. I'm going to assume that you're a Christian (feel free to correct me), so I will tell you what I've told many Christians throughout my lifetime - Get your own house in order before you worry about the rest of us. Your brothers and sisters are suffering through a life of benign ignorance, and they don't even realize it. Do yourself a favor and worry about their hearts and minds before you come gunning for us non-believers... -
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