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- AlwaysAwake, on 05/13/2008, -20/+90How does an essentially bankrupt, powerless US Treasury pay for anything ? Their principal power to issue currency was taken away in 1913 by an unconstitutional law rammed through Congress, ceding power to the private banking cartel now hiding in the government, The Federal Reserve System to issue worthless paper "fiat money", based upon a formula of $9.00 in "money" for every $1.00 in credit/debt. The "bubble" created by that ridiculous ratio has now burst, causing private "national" banking cartels, led by BSI/Switzerland, to demand World War III from the political leaders they support and control, to create a new credit/debt "bubble". Then they will have the flawed basis to repeat the process by issuing more worthless fiat paper "money" again. sucking wealth from ordinary people paying taxes. The current exception are India and China, where the credit/debt "bubble" is still in high gear, though they are bailing out of US dollar reserves, and looking for suckers to take US Treasury bonds and securities off their hands. Seeing the futility of this corrupt, failed system, many wealthy nations are creating Sovereign Wealth Funds, to be the corrupt "new" NWO leaders, replacing the corrupt "old" NWO leaders, the Western private banking cartels. Average people world-wide need to stop fighting over ethnic, racial, religious, and political differences, and unite via the only free media open, the Internet, to defeat both these corrupt entities whose greed is killing us off in wars and starvation,
- CaptMonkey, on 05/13/2008, -0/+37As a veteran of this war, I couldn't be angrier with the people opposing this bill. When I got out, I thought I could use my GI Bill to go to school full-time. I was mistaken. While it covered school pretty well, it didn't give nearly enough to cover my rent and food. So, I took a full-time job and I'm left taking a couple of classes every semester, while I work. The original idea of the GI Bill was to give vets a free ride, which it doesn't nearly cover anymore.
The people opposing this bill, Republicans and "Blue Dog" Democrats, should be ashamed of themselves. How can you ever claim to "support the troops" and refuse to give them funding to get an education? The myth of it harming retention has already been dispelled by Congressional Committees who looked into it and found that the increased rate of recruiting would more than make up for any loss of retention.
This is not an "entitlement", this is a repayment for the time and effort spent fighting your wars, regardless of if those wars were worth fighting to begin with. Anyone who voted for the war and against this has no business in public office. - foxfire1311, on 05/13/2008, -5/+34Totally unrelated you ignoramus
These people have chosen to serve their country. We owe them something, regardless of the politics and mistakes of the Iraq war. - duggtodeath, on 05/13/2008, -0/+25"War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it."
Desiderius Erasmus - JDenigma, on 05/13/2008, -6/+29Our side, their side, blah blah blah. You're going for this phony b.s. about a left/right divide in American politics when it isn't that simple. Everything you listed sounded like code for leftist social program spending which is just as bad as any government spending on a war and don't act like the left is somehow innocent in this foreign interventionism. They're just as guilty of it too. They're culpable too for allowing this war and democrat administrations have been just as guilty as right wing administrations of instigating wars and other interventionism down through our history. It isn't a one sided, partisan issue as you make it out to be there.
"Our side demands money spent on constructive, people-oriented services such as health and education."
So in other words, lets just fight over what crappy government programs we can spend the taxpayers money on. Don't address whether the government should even be spending money on any of these things in the first place. Let's just all fight between each other over who can control our share of the pie in controlling government to rob each other of our money to force each other to pay money on our pet programs whether it be war, healhcare, or anything else, when the people you took the money from, didn't consent to their money going to such causes, no matter how noble you deem it to be. Government spending doesn't solve problems and improve things anyway. Anyone who believes that is really naive and not paying attention.
"Their side calls for freer markets allowing them to exploit the working-classes in increasingly disgusting ways across the globe."
Free markets have nothing to do with this. Free market supporters would not support this right wing mercantilism.
"Workers of the world, unite!"
No thank you. I'm not in support of the republicans and this unconstitutional, immoral war. I don't want any of it, but neither do I want any of your workers unite, socialist bullcrap for your pet lefty spending programs. Don't shove it down my throat! If you do, that makes you just as bad as the war profiteers. Yes it does. It's a matter of principle here, not cherry picking whose programs are better. Use some philosophy in your life. - PSWTyrant, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20Chicken hawk politicians need to be thrown out of office. There are probably 10-15 of the entire sitting group worth voting for. Simply don't vote for incumbents.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -1/+21Look in the mirror my friend.
The entire American political system relies on it's citizens to keep it uncorrupted.
Nothing else can do anything about it.
You want to know why France has so much services?
http://www.urbanhonking.com/freedomgirl/archives/r ...
http://www.rcpbml.org.uk/wdie-06/image/france.jpg
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/im ...
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1024897,00.jpg
Quite simply: they go on strike. The government is scared of them, not the other way around. Either they get what they want, or they stop everything. - khail250, on 05/13/2008, -1/+21the GI bill is a pretty kick ass investment, when I was in the Navy it was 100 bucks a month for 12 months, and when I got out of the Navy it was worth close to 35000.. pretty much the only way i didnt get the shaft from them
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -0/+17I can think of a few items in the budget that could be trimmed back. We've spent $500 billion on this war right now... We spend what, $20 billion a year on the war on drugs... I think we can afford those things, especially given that the GI Bill is a proven economy-booster.
- ToastedZergling, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13Either the US government is incredibly narrow-minded & retarded or insanely corrupt. I'm going with both.
- freemenow, on 05/13/2008, -2/+16Of course it would be nice if government subsidies had not driven the cost of education and medicine out of most people's price ranges in the first place.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -6/+18your love gives me such a thrill...but your love wont pay my bills,... i need money..........thats what i want..........just give me money............thats what i want.......
- mark076h, on 05/13/2008, -1/+19I can conform this is true as i am a former Marine that just got out in January after 4 years and 2 deployments to Fallujah Iraq and i plan to attend school in the fall, i was accepted to a private University that has the program i want and everything only problem is the GI Bill does not cover anywhere near the tuition for a typical 4 year University wich is around $30,000/year, so now i can either get a huge student loan and be in debt when i am done with school or i can go to a community college and transfer up to cut the cost or go to some ***** state school that the GI Bill does but also barely covers. I have not read much into why people in congress are opposing this but i guess it has something to do with the fear of the retention rate in the military dropping if more veterans take advantage of the GI Bill, well that is a bunch of *****.
- 12DHutch, on 05/13/2008, -2/+13Included on the list of politicians who won't sign off on this proposal is one of our presidential candidates--John McCain. The hypocrite.
- Bronnster, on 05/13/2008, -7/+17Very well said. Thank you for your post. Hopefully many more will take heed to the current warnings out there. Fiat money: Federal Reserve note (American currency) = Tally sticks. Worthless. History is doomed to repeat itself. No lessons learned. suggested reading: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2007/06 ...
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -6/+18lets just wait for all the Neo-Cons who never wore a uniform, or ever contributed to a charity for vets, or even contributed to a campaign, come in here and tell us how it's the soldiers fault.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -2/+12People with brains.
Now stuff your head back up your ass and let the grown ups get back to work. - mattavila, on 05/14/2008, -4/+15This has three parts, and pretty well sums it up. While our governemt isnt wasting entirely on the war, this should get EVERY taxpaying Americans blood boiling!
Part 1
In just 16 months.. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over 16 MONTHS ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006..... AND WE GOT IT!
Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama (note here: Im NOT a Democrat, but this sounds too good.... and we sure did get change, just not what we were expecting)
Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151 ...
Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250
Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.
If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.
PART 3:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt ...
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt ...
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt ...
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt ...
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.h ...
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt ...
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt ...
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deporta ...
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ." Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Are we THAT stupid? If this doesn't bother you then just ignore the message. If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington , D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.
In other words, if we CUT OFF the ILLEGALS, than well have a ton of money to take care of our own.... and as a TAXPAYER, Im sick of our elected officials giving my paycheck to third world counties and folks that simply dont respect our country. - chessmasterjoe, on 05/13/2008, -2/+10Well said my friend. I think you covered it quite well.
- Mejari, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8oil?
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of your economy plummeting.
- jeffiek, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I'll grant you that one. French citizens are on the ball, they don't take much nonsense from their government.
Bad news is they don't make good choices about what to stand up for. - candre23, on 05/13/2008, -3/+11The argument of the people opposing the inclusion of the GI bill is NOT that it is undeserving of funding, but that it has no place in an emergency war bill. If the GI bill were introduced on its own, it would not meet any real opposition. However, by shoehorning it into a huge bill that spends money which we don't have on a war that we shouldn't be fighting, the republicans can use it as ammunition against opposing democrats in the next election.
Many democrats will no doubt vote against the war bill as a whole. If the GI bill is included in the war bill, republicans in the next election can point at them and say "They voted against veterans getting college money!" The people responsible for trying to force the GI bill into the war bill are guilty of using necessary veteran benefits as a political bargaining chip. Please place the blame where it belongs. - dagnabbit, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9That crafty Pelosi. Got all the Democrats supporting a war funding bill by putting the GI bill inside it. The same people who say "Impeach" and "Stop the funding" are yelling at the Republicans for opposing this portion of a war funding bill.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8Blue Dogs. Cheapstake Democrats. Most Dems know that we have a responsibility to our veterans.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -7/+16Typical rightard dumbass, pretending the Dems are the ones who ***** everything up.
Tell me, *****, WHAT has the GOP done for ANYONE?
Oh, right, the BEST Americans to the GOP are the RICH Americans. ***** everyone else.
You are incredibly stupid. I'm amazed you figured out how to turn the pc on. - dave122, on 05/13/2008, -1/+10jesus christ, i don't even know what to say to that. at least the paul people had *some* meaningful points not just "VOTE FOR HIM AND THE RIVERS WILL FLOW WITH CHOCLATE!!"
- freemenow, on 05/13/2008, -3/+9You forgot the correct (as opposed to right or left) side, represented by Ron Paul and by the Libertarian Party, who want the people to have the freedom to pursue their own values as they see fit, provided that they respect the rights of others to do the same.
If they're socialists, they can form or join a commune --- but they can't force others to join.
If the capitalists, they can build a business -- but they can't force others to pay them subsidies or to forgo trading with others because they happen to be in the same nation as the company. - sherrife, on 05/13/2008, -3/+10Who you fightin' for?
You do the shootin', they do the lootin'
You do the killin', they do the drillin'. - inactive, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7I dunno dude, maybe you should go to a public school instead.
Either way, thank you for serving. - EarlOfLade, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9US Military - 21st century slavery!
- JDenigma, on 05/13/2008, -2/+10Your claims tying market forces to starvation and all make no sense. Yes, it's all basic economic sense when it comes to supply and demand that if you see an increase in demand for fuel as with China for example or see an increase of demand for food with no change in the supply, that yes you will thus naturally see an increase in the prices to compensate for that increased demand. You have no disagreement with me there. That's basic economics when it comes to supply and demand.
However, I don't understand how it is that you're making this leap in believing that it is somehow the marketplace that is culpable in people starving. That just makes no sense at all and I don't see the connections. If there are people starving in the world, whether it be those in the U.S. or around the world including in 3rd world countries, it has to do with a multitude of other reasons, but it is not the free market and the natural fluctuations of prices that are responsible for that. That is a red herring in using the free market as a scapegoat to take blame there.
Besides, if there is a problem with the supply to meet the increasing demand, that just provides the marketplace incentives to increase the supply by growing more food and breeding more animals for food. The marketplace always has inherently built in incentives that react to human behavior and needs. Also if the marketplace was not to react to that by compensating you would then wind up with a shortage much like gasoline shortage in the 70's with price caps and you don't want shortages, do you? It is necessary to raise the prices to prevent such problems that would arise by not compensating for the increased demand and that is not what is responsible for people starving. There is also plenty of food in the world to feed starving people. It isn't a lack of shortage of food. It's more of a lack of free market capitalism in the world that is to blame. People who are starving in 3rd world countries are doing so because of their governments, not because of the free market. Government intervention is the cause of our problems with rises in prices with food and fuel. The ethanol subsidies have been one of the main contributors to raising the price of food worldwide and that is government, not the free market. Maybe we should do away with this idea that politicians our leaders who know best who act as grand central planners to make decisions and plan our economy. We shouldn't be subsidizing anything in the first place. That isn't even a Constitutional role of government.
Oh, I did you a favor and didn't bury since I took the time to respond to you. - dagnabbit, on 05/13/2008, -2/+7That is why McCain opposes it. Said it would hurt retention rates, since vets would get such good benefits for getting out. That's right, support our troops, but don't support them so much that they can do anything else.
- BottledSunshine, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5$5.00 an hour more then A.N.S.W.E.R. pays its shills. What does that come to yellow? You should be able to figure it out, just add $5.00 to your hourly wage and you’ll get the total.
- mark076h, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5pretty much, you sure do get used and abused, nothing but training for and then deploying to the fight we cant and will not win
- inajeep, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Guess what oils the machine.
- sweeneyowns, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5we prefer to call it indentured servitude...
- bubbadoo989, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5Dude, we've always been the worlds urinal for iimmigrant welfare dollars. Try taking a walk in downtown-Manhattan during a usual weekday lunch; it's like walking around a 3rd world country. We are the UN.
Lot's of liberals will try to say our diversity is our strength, but that's only as long as they're trust fund holds out and their job is not subject to insourcing with cheaper h1b labor. Oh, and by the way, I don't care how you vote, you'll find both sides of the aisle are subject to greed. - gryphon50, on 05/13/2008, -1/+6It's funny that the Bush admn. will never rein in Halliburton, no matter how much their corruption, waste, over-charges, etc. cost us, but when it comes to vets (whom they supposedly honor), there is no money to pay for that. Anyone who thinks the higher-ups actually care about the troops has got to be naive.
- inactive, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4Yes he does. It is called "8 more years of the same ***** that got us here."
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -2/+7Looks like somebody didn't read the story.
FTA "A couple of Congressmen, including Rep. John Tanner (D-TN), Jim Cooper (D-TN), and Allen Boyd (D-FL), all members of the Blue Dog Coalition, have gotten together to OPPOSE paying for the GI Bill this week."
...unless Democrats are the new neo-cons. - centerblack, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Well if you read the article, you'd notice that it was actually a small group of democrats who call themselves the "blue dogs".
Who gives a ***** what party they're a part of? Vote for a person not their party. - calantus, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Wow i've never seen such rediculous non sense. You give nothing to backup anything. He won't fix the economic problem. Period. Neither will Mccain, or Hillary. Mccain basically has no plan.
- mark076h, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5well then maybe the government should stop advertising free education with the GI Bill/MIitary service
- dagnabbit, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Most private schools are about that much. Maybe a little less, but at least $20-25k.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Cut out unconstitutional foreign aid to EVERY SINGLE country that would solve a lot of issues. Most foreign aid never reaches the victims in the first place, instead it props up their corrupt governments!
Furthermore since when did it become acceptable the American people are now responsible for every country on the planet with our tax money? While our veterans get the shaft literally! I think not.
I am sick of "Global" this and that. And if any of three current idiots running for President gets office we the people will be slapped with "Global Taxes" to the corrupt UN for the war of poverty. What a joke that is! America has lots of homeless people including veterans that should come first before any country, period! - sweeneyowns, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4higher ups just care about getting higher up. this is not done through skills at work or knowledge or even really any sane or logical method. at a certain point promotions are given out to who can give out the best bj to whoever is in charge....swallowing helps i hear
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