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- Sogui, on 03/27/2008, -5/+45Amazing, a better title for this submission would be:
"I blindly speculate about the Bush pardons" - slvrbullet87, on 03/27/2008, -4/+42Look up the list of presidential pardons, this is nothing new. Clinton, old Bush, Regan, Carter... they all pardoned drug dealers
- chriskzoo, on 03/27/2008, -13/+45Digg wonders why drugs are illegal. Bush pardons drug dealers. "Impeach Bush!"
The hypocrisy astounds me. - WilliamDavis, on 03/27/2008, -16/+42Drug pardons are an example of these political asses finally doing the right thing. Concentrate on real crimes, please.
- bill679, on 03/27/2008, -4/+29With the exception of James Garfield (1881) and William Harrison (1841), it's been the status quo for some time. Clinton and Bush are hardly the trailblazers.
Source: http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardonspres1.htm - rmason, on 03/27/2008, -6/+28That's true, Bush has a long way to go before he could equal the number of sleazy pardons that Bill Clinton gave out to the well heeled criminal community.
- Tweekster, on 03/27/2008, -10/+31Did he charge them a million dollars like a certain recent president?
- okeemike, on 03/27/2008, -5/+24Before everyone starts on a "F Bush" rampage, keep in mind that Clinton's pardons were no better:
This is just a PARTIAL list.... Full list is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a94a2736a14.ht ...
(and I'm not even bringing up Marc Rich....)
Haig Ardash Arakelian, California, 1975, possession of marijuana.
Vincent Anthony Burgio, California, 1972, possession of counterfeit government documents.
Thomas Earl Burton, Virginia, 1982, attempted possession with intent to distribute cocaine.
James William Gardner, Wyoming, 1983, conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
Alejandro Cruz Guedca, Army court-martial, location unavailable, 1949, theft of government property.
Sebraien Michael Haygood, New York, importing cocaine.
Warren Curtis Hultgren Jr., Texas, 1982, conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine.
Sharon Sue Johnson, Arkansas, 1986, bank embezzlement.
Ronald Ray Kelly, Marine Corps court-martial, location unavailable, 1969, unlawful absences and escape.
Michael Ray Krukar, Alaska, 1988, distribution of marijuana.
Michael Francis Larkin, Massachusetts, 1984, making false statements to the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Leslie Jan McCall, Oklahoma, 1988, using telephone in cocaine distribution.
Bobby Joe Miller, Texas, 1982, failing to report or concealing a felony.
Billy Wayne Reynolds, Texas, 1981, mail fraud.
Benito Maldonado Sanchez Jr., Texas, 1960, possession of marijuana.
Lewis Craig Seymour, Oklahoma, 1979, distribution of PCP.
Darrin Paul Sobin, California, 1987, conspiracy to produce marijuana.
John Timothy Thompson, Oklahoma, 1986, using telephone in cocaine distribution.
Paul Loy Tobin, Alabama, 1968, interstate transport of a stolen car. - monospaced, on 03/27/2008, -13/+29He's probably pardoning his drug dealers.
- chriskzoo, on 03/27/2008, -0/+16Felony comes off your records - easier for getting a job, removes stigma, etc.
- jetboyterp, on 03/27/2008, -3/+18Whoever wrote this even admits at the beginning: That it's all pure speculation. There's no facts here...as usual, only what the Bush-deranged want to see.
If you truly want to see pardons bought, pardons for druggies, pardons for terrorists....one simply has to look at Bubba's last day in office. - dondada619, on 03/27/2008, -1/+15Don't be so quick to judge these people. I just read this article about one of these guys and he truly deserves a pardon.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080326- ... - SwedishNinja, on 03/27/2008, -11/+24Sure, it's okay to argue for lighter sentences for crack dealers and for the decriminalization of marijuana, but when Bush releases a few drug offenders on these grounds... well he's clearly uh.... a fascist.
Hypocrites. - Myonosken, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12Dealers but not the users? *****, these aren't even weed dealers but heroin and crack dealers.
- inactive, on 03/27/2008, -5/+14How dare you interject actual facts into the liberals' whinefest against Bush!
- dood, on 03/27/2008, -1/+10It's probably to get the conviction off his record. What is with lifetime records for drug crimes, anyway?
- airburst, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9Maybe they want to vote?
- schwallman, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7if anyone needed to be pardoned, this seems like a good reason
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/27/earlysho ... - okeemike, on 03/27/2008, -4/+11Actually, that's a good point, and I agree. However, I'm willing to bet that the majority of the argument here is based on just an opportunity to bash W.
- dafragsta, on 03/27/2008, -4/+11Legalizing drugs and pardoning GANGSTERS (not drug users) who use violence and black market leverage to fleece people are two different things. The biggest reason most non-recreational drug people have for legalizing drugs is that ALL of the crime related to bootlegging alcohol went away after prohibition. It doesn't take a crystal ball to assume that all drug related crimes would go away if they were legal. There will always be dealers and users. Adjusting the legality is only adjusting the violence associated with them.
- prophet5, on 03/27/2008, -4/+11You can't get a carry permit with a felony conviction on your record.
Oh wait, now I'll get the anti-gun crowd in a tizzy. - weeeezzll, on 03/27/2008, -3/+10Nothing to see here folks. Move along now...
- MofugginPaulrus, on 03/27/2008, -2/+8God forbid you do something to harm yourself! I guess you never touch fast food and get a perfect 8 hours of sleep every night?
- stevetrojanman, on 03/27/2008, -6/+12Sad and true...
For all of those liberals that like to call conservatives "sheep", right back atcha, fools. - thcobbs, on 03/27/2008, -1/+7Do you know any of the back history of the people that were pardoned? Or are you just making an assumption based on your dislike of Bush?
- Wargalas, on 03/27/2008, -4/+10Wrongly accused? Got any proof to back that up? Or are you just going to jump on the Al Sharpton bandwagon?
- monospaced, on 03/27/2008, -4/+10Even if they are linked, which sounds like complete ***** anyways, your rationalization that "if you love obama, you love bush" is absolutely retarded.
- mcquitty, on 03/27/2008, -6/+11Correct, but to single out Bush because he is Bush is to be naive.
- Ostizzle, on 03/27/2008, -2/+7But wait a second. I thought most diggers were all for the legalization of illicit substances because, like hey man, it's our own bodies and stuff.
These guys aren't criminals, they're merely victims of a discriminatory society who were just trying to provide for their families. They had no doubt tried on many occasions to obtain honest jobs like the rest of society but were oppressed and forced into this lifestyle but the uber-rich elite class. - mcquitty, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6How about... they were sentenced 20 years ago and have led productive lives since?
- Noctem, on 03/27/2008, -2/+7You're posting on Digg from prison?
- mcquitty, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5It is not that you can say that you've never had a felony. It does restore your rights, with petition, to own weapons.
What it allows is a level of being involved in the community that might not otherwise be there. For example, many states have expungement as an option to exclude disclosing convictions for things such as employment. At the Federal level, there's nothing like it. The Presidential Pardon is the closest thing to it. HR662 (The Second Chance Act) is trying to address this issue, but hasn't gotten any traction. Even with a Pardon, you still must disclose the conviction, but you can also say that you've been pardoned. - CrazedLeper, on 03/27/2008, -3/+7Drug dealers are more necessary now than ever to support the sagging economy.
- mnocket, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4 They were not released. They were convicted years ago and served their sentences. These pardons simply removed the convictions from their records.
- terminal157, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Caps lock: the key of retards.
- mcquitty, on 03/27/2008, -2/+6Umm, that's called commuting a sentence. A pardon can also be granted post-conviction and sentence. In fact, many are.
- Ostizzle, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5Oops, I guess I forgot that Bush was involved.
It's so hard to keep the contradicting popular positions of the hive-mind straight! - inactive, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3if you do, please enlighten us
- razzmataz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3yes, but then you have to remember that Icke also thinks that bush and friends are half lizard... Have you read any of the forums on Icke's site?
- airburst, on 03/27/2008, -4/+7Your post should have said "I have no idea how Presidental pardons work but I'm going to talk out of my ass anyway."
- mnocket, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Perhaps there are some extenuating circumstances. I don't know. Of course not knowing the facts doesn't seem to keep people from expressing strong opinions here.
- petebert, on 03/27/2008, -4/+7arent we all about drugs being legal on digg?
- CrazyDave303, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3One lied about getting sucked off by an ugly chick, one lied and took us to war.
- TheUnlearn, on 03/27/2008, -2/+5people obviously want to buy the drugs. The dealers aren't holding guns to people's heads, telling them to buy it. It's capitalism at work. if nobody wanted the drugs then the dealers would be out of business. And since the drugs aren't directly harming anyone other than the user it isn't really anyone else's business. I don't see why you have a problem with the dealer when the individuals buying the product chose to do so willing. Tobacco and Alcohol can be just as hazardous to your health as cocaine and heroin but Budweiser and Marlboro execs aren't getting thrown in jail for selling their products.
- Delphium226, on 03/27/2008, -4/+7I thought you guys hated these drug pushers, now your king pardons them and you say nothing. Shove YOUR hypocrisy up yer ass.
- ProjectGSX, on 03/27/2008, -6/+9While true that this is not unusual, it also doesnt make it right.
- t3rmv3locity, on 03/27/2008, -1/+4Well we better goddamn start convicting them then, now shouldn't we.
- lamiaconfitor, on 03/27/2008, -2/+5are you posting this everywhere? I am afraid that you are a complete idiot, stop being proud of it.
- kcdstudios, on 03/27/2008, -13/+16uh no. Maybe pardons for thousands of minor marijuana "convicts", or wrongly accused like the jena 6.
Not cocaine dealers. It's a hell of a drug. -
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