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- bmfdl1, on 03/30/2009, -5/+86These are clear cut crimes, why are they not being prosecuted???
- katiedogg, on 03/30/2009, -5/+79Destroy the evidence on your way out the door! That's great.
- joeditto, on 03/30/2009, -5/+54Cheney Lies....I'm shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- buckrogers1965, on 03/30/2009, -5/+42This is not the America I grew up believing in.
Torture is wrong. There is never any reason to treat anyone we capture with anything less than respect.
If we aren't better than our enemies, then what is the point? - Misinformant, on 03/30/2009, -7/+38Say what you will about George Bush's intellect but it was pure brilliance to choose the only living ***** greater than himself to be his VP. Didn't even need Secret Service protection from then on.
'Take me out, I dare ya. Remember who's next in line for my job.' - shutaro, on 03/30/2009, -6/+30Welcome to Dick Cheney's America.
- alkidance, on 03/30/2009, -3/+27Guantánamo Bay, the fantastic Patriot Act, Abu Ghraib, imaginary war on WMD, the "almost" secret wire taps on US citizens, disappearance of evidence, are examples of the act of tyranny and injustice that was of "Cheney's" presidency.
It's funny because neocons are calling Obama a facist and a socialist. - buckrogers1965, on 03/30/2009, -3/+19They are, just not in the US. In the UK and Spain the evidence is being gathered and trials are starting.
Interesting fact about war crimes and crimes against humanity: any jurisdiction can prosecute them. - VitriolAndAngst, on 03/30/2009, -2/+17When politicians and proven scum bags like Cheney destroy evidence: you should assume the worst.
And with Cheney, assuming the worst is usually staying on the right track.
Here is a guy, who parlayed his military connections in the Iraq War 1, to trade with the enemy (Saddam Hussein) during a time of war and embargo. The Oil for Food scandal, that you might have heard Rush Limbaugh show lots of outrage at the UN for, had a good chunk go through good ol' Haliburton.
After that, Cheney helped wealthy American business men, not pay taxes and offshore their income -- apparently, giving him good experience for governance and running our government from secret bunkers. KBR and Haliburton, also, don't pay taxes on the employment of their no-bid contractors, and not just the underpaid foreign workers that provide over billed cost-plus profits and no jobs for Americans. Did I mention their holding company, Carlysle Group and much of Cheney's wealth are now in Dubai? Some of these contractors are no longer US companies and don't pay taxes.
To Cheney, either there are separate rules for elite people like himself, who is both a Presidential and not, and both a Senator or not, at the same time to get out of any responsibility for transparency. Maybe he is just a crook and is using lame excuses -- you think? Maybe he got a lot of dirt on people with his internal spying and is blackmailing them to let him get away with water he wants to do...
So, other than war profiteering, we have Cheney on a news program -- live TV, calmly admitting that he endorsed torture, and adding his pleasant, whispery chuckle as if it was no bid deal. I think Cheney says a lot of things with a low soft voice, so you might mistake him for friendly; "Is it safe? Is it safe?" Some aide at the White House must have mistook his amateur hobby of dentistry to be a request for an actual safe -- maybe that's how he got that Man-sized safe in his office. Who knows but the shadow?
>> Cheney was spying pervasively BEFORE 9/11; <a class="user" href="<a class="user" href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist ... rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist ...</a> rel="nofollow"><a class="user" href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist ... rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist ... ...</a>
>> Cheney and Bush were informed of who, what, where and how 9/11 would take place -- according to Susan Lindauer, now released from terrorist prison without charges and kept from a lawyer and her Constitutional rights: <a class="user" href="<a class="user" href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00028.htm%2 ... rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00028.htm&a ... ...</a> rel="nofollow"><a class="user" href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00028.htm%3 ... rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00028.htm&a ... ...</a>
>> Cheney and Gonzalez abuse the courts and public trust to profit from a private prison firm: <a class="user" href="<a class="user" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5 ... rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5 ...</a> rel="nofollow"><a class="user" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5 ... rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5 ... ...</a> -- and of course a Republican Judge Manuel Banales rejects indictments in "Operation Goliath" in Texas dismisses indictments against Cheney and Gonzalez that they profitted from their investments in abusive private prison firm, Vanguard Group.
>> Cheney profiting from government again, in cahoots from ousted Senator Ted Stevens in an oil pipeline scam; <a class="user" href="<a class="user" href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/155072%22" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/155072"</a> rel="nofollow"><a class="user" href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/155072%3C/a%3E" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/155072</a></a& ...
I mean, if they can't get the new old tricky Dick on the torture tapes -- there is plenty of stuff on the record to prove he is a traitor, a crook, and an all-around menace to decency. - noahgelman, on 03/30/2009, -5/+19In my opinion, I am willing to risk my safety, and the safety of my fellow Americans in order to preserve the fact that America does not torture. (It should be at least, that's a little compromised now) i believe that we're better then that and should act accordingly.
- kemp34, on 03/30/2009, -1/+13Seriously, I want one decent reason Cheney has not been arrested.
- pup34, on 03/30/2009, -4/+14pup34: bmaz does not mince words in this diary about Cheney, the lies he tells about all the valuable info obtained by torturing Zabaydah, and the real reason the CIA destroyed the torture tapes. Fine comments provide a wide scope of views.
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -3/+12Unless they have influence at which point ***** sucking takes over and morality goes out the window
- bugsy187, on 03/30/2009, -2/+9I'm not convinced torture really makes America safe. It just seems like another creepy tactic to intimidate small, weak nations. Scare them into compliance by our own irrational, criminal conduct. You could argue, though, that torture encourages enemies to step up their own extreme tactics.
- CressCrowbits, on 03/30/2009, -3/+10*"The Imperial March"
- mixmatosis, on 03/30/2009, -4/+11Cheney should be tortured.
- jfitz369, on 03/30/2009, -6/+12Because both political parties are completely corrupted to the core and we, the people, are stupid and allow the corruption.
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -2/+7You people expect a guy who didn't even get so much as a ticket for reckless endangerment after shooting a crony in the face (who, for some reason felt obligated to APOLOGIZE for getting shot in the face) to be held accountable?
Part of the economic bailout should include provisions for subsidized pitchforks and torches. - ManUnitdFan, on 03/30/2009, -1/+6SOCIALISM YOU SAY?!?! Why haven't we been warned?!?! Why aren't there more good Americans like you to let us know the dangers of this socialist communist fascist Obama?
If only more people had posted on Digg, we might have been able to get the word out before the last election. - ProfessorG2, on 03/30/2009, -1/+6The only way to shut Dick Cheney up and keep him from plotting to destroy this democracy is to prosecute him for treason and war crimes. Until then, he is a legitimate threat. How can anyone out there think that a guy with all his power isn't still dangerous.
We need to watch Obama's back. So here's a good start!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0TTfqFZg8 - rewinn, on 03/30/2009, -1/+5Why be soft on crime?
- sgerwel1985, on 03/30/2009, -4/+8Big Dick lied? No way!
I can't believe that the Vice President would lie, politicians are angels! - jfitz369, on 03/30/2009, -2/+6A agree with you but don't give Obama a free pass. This guy has appointed many questionable "old school connected" people to his cabinet, he has said he won't pursue charges against the former administration, he's leaving permanent troops in Iraq and sending more to Afghanistan, he's not planning to end the "drug war" which fuels Mexican drug cartels, he keeps handing money over to the banks w/ no strings attached... all I'm saying is I'd suggest keeping a close eye on this guy too. We may have been played with the oldest trick in the book - bad cop, good cop. Bush = bad, Obama = good... but overall it's the same corrupt agenda - a gov for and by the bankers and military.
- bmfdl1, on 03/30/2009, -1/+5Who buried all the Gooper/Freeper comments?? The world ought to be able to see these people's idiocy in plain view!
- atomheartmother, on 03/30/2009, -1/+5Where were the concerned Democrats when Bill Clinton was in the White House practicing rendition? Here is the double standard of many Democrats. It is hypocritical to condemn certain intelligence procedures as unethical when practiced by a Republican Administration, and remain silent when these very same procedures are exercised under Democratic rule.
- sodade, on 03/30/2009, -0/+4"If you are walking down the street and a stranger attempts to assault you, for no apparent reason"
How are you people so ***** deluded. America has been assraping the Middle East since at least '53. Why don't you educate yourself before trying to talk at the adult table? - joshstone100, on 03/31/2009, -1/+5Tapes?
You've got to be kidding me. Is that really the media government torture criminals actually use to record such crucial confessions and important data on? In this modern technological age of digital vibrators, remote control toasters and wireless Internet from a calculator. With all of the countless digital methods available that are more reliable and less prone to disaster and becoming "lost", they resort to cheesy tapes instead? That makes no sense. Then again, this is the government we're talking here.
Yeah, they're obviously concerned about preservation of these torture confessionals!
Not.
Cheney should just issue an official public statement saying his wife's dog ate the tapes. Short attention span Americans won't care one way or another. Much less question it anyway. So what does it matter? The situation will blow over in less than a week. Everybody will forget about it and it's on to resuming the usual Lindsey Lohan DUI updates and reporting Oprah Winfreys latest weight gain. Hell, just say Rumsfeld took the tapes on a camping trip for entertainment to listen to out in the wilderness when Bigfoot suddenly appeared at the campsite and ran off with them into a lake instead. Make it something more believable than the current coverup marketing job, at least. - norman619, on 03/31/2009, -0/+3Let's try to at least keep this discussion sane and hyperboly free. These always degenerate into comments like yours and it gets annoying.
- moose26, on 03/30/2009, -3/+6One of the main directives a President who is leaving the oval office is to cover all of their tracks and play dumb if every questioned about missing information.
- rewinn, on 03/30/2009, -1/+4There is a thing called courage.
Torturers lack it. - rewinn, on 03/30/2009, -0/+3That's what OJ said!
- AvangionQ, on 03/30/2009, -2/+4The destruction of evidence to a crime is a crime upon itself ... as evidence to these allegations continues to mount, it will fall upon the U.S. Attorneys in the Department of Justice to begin prosecution ...
- VitriolAndAngst, on 03/30/2009, -0/+2Digg, really messes up URLs.
Here are the links again:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist ...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00028.htm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5 ...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/155072 - maeon3, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, why do we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don't have the constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The house of representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control Monetary Policy the federal reserve bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine supreme court justices, 545, human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the federal reserve board because that problem was created by the congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.
The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a speaker, who stood up and criticized the president for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the house of representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the house? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party.
She and fellow house members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If they president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted-by present facts- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.
If the army & marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.
If they do not receive social security, but are on the elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.
Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and who's jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that their exists disembodied mystical forces like "The economy", "inflation", or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.
Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess! - zer0nix, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2oh really?
<pours tall glass of water>
i don't recall.
:]
/s - dakine01, on 03/30/2009, -3/+5And for how many months and years did you excuse all of GWB's 'problems' by blaming things on Clinton? If you were still saying it was all Clinton's fault at any time after 2 1/2 months, then kindly STFU.
- novenator, on 03/30/2009, -1/+3People were getting Tea Bagged everywhere!
- U83RMENSCH, on 03/30/2009, -3/+4who the ***** is still using tapes?!
- kemp34, on 03/30/2009, -3/+4Worry on these two subjects is not mutually exclusive.
- shylove, on 03/31/2009, -2/+3And I believe there were more unreleased Abu Graib tapes...I believe the psycho-sexual torture, intimidations, and behaviorial psycho-terror might be a better place to look than water-boarding!!! What all of the sudden we dropped all of the cold war lsd experiemtnation and just went back to the era of the Spanish Inquisition and religious terror! And we send some priveate and sargeant off to prison??? What they don't talk about is more telling...probably we need a rewrite of torture treaties and definitions completely..
- ChoosyMother, on 04/01/2009, -1/+2Nicely done, Atom.
- flammablewater, on 03/30/2009, -3/+4Is his house back on the google maps? I smell an angry mob.
- Draco50, on 03/30/2009, -4/+5That is to funny after 8 years of the worst regime I can remember. but I wish I could laugh. It's all to sad what Bush did but at least I see a glimmer of hope for this country .
- kd420, on 03/30/2009, -1/+2It's both sad and infuriating when one looks at their government and asks "Why are(n't) they..." while still knowing the answer. The answer is the same, because the people in power don't give a ***** about me, you or anyone else who is not vital to their political, social or financial well being. The only way to change this is to remind them how much they need us, which unfortunately takes the majority of people to get their heads out their behinds. Hopefully the straw that will break our backs is coming soon.
- JimClausen, on 03/30/2009, -2/+3Bmaz, This DIGG is going viral. congrats Claus
- buddamus, on 03/30/2009, -2/+3Yeah but someone stole the roof tiles
- atomheartmother, on 03/30/2009, -1/+2http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/15/pa ...
- rewinn, on 03/30/2009, -2/+3"Rendition" is an ancient practice, from WAY before Clinton.
The issue is "extraordinary rendition" ... WITHOUT judicial oversight, PLUS to countries that torture.... a.k.a. outsourcing torture.
But if you wanna prosecute Clinton too, go ahead ... do ya feel lucky, punk? - lbeyries, on 03/30/2009, -1/+2Gee Cheney lied? why am I not in the least bit surprised. There was deceit in t he Bush White House? How did he get elected? Oh yeah, remember Florida and the whole chad thing. Deceit was there from the very beginning. My question is was there any truth coming from the Bush Administration?
- swrostmore, on 03/30/2009, -2/+3Junior didn't choose Cheney, Cheney chose Cheney. True story.
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