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- Lane, on 10/10/2007, -5/+62wouldn't calling just be the ultimate irony?...
- rinkjustice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+46If you're an AT&T customer, it's already happening. The goverment doesn't need your approval. They're already doing it.
- dukeeeey, on 10/10/2007, -3/+46They have been doing it illegally anyway.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+45OK, here's a little thought-experiment for people with the above reaction: Given Mr Bush's record, & his ability to get things done, plus his achievements relative to his stated claims - do you feel comfortable with his potential on this issue? Let's put it another way, if you had a guy with his kind of credibility & competence doing major work on your house, would you employ him again? To put it even another way, the guy is a ***** liar. Do you honestly believe him in anything he still says?
- rinkjustice, on 10/10/2007, -3/+45I swear, there must be something in the water down in the US of A. Your rights are being stripped away right in front of your faces, and you all do nothing. History is being rewritten by the goverment, lies become the truth, and a handful of multi-national media conglomerates control the news and information, and you all act like you're asleep. And you're political voting system is corrupted and votes aren't being counted, and you think you live in a democracy?!
You diggers that live in the States: WAKE UP! - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39Now I can tell them how much they suck without going through all those hoops.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28I've got no problems if our Government wants to conduct surveillance with a proper warrant. I have big problems when they want to spy and record conversations wholesale and never be accountable for it. America is changing.
- raisputin3, on 10/10/2007, -10/+35Bush is a war-mongering, lying piece of excrement. He should be tried for treason and war crimes at a minimum.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26They will tap your calls to Congress and use it against you.
- DeskFlyer, on 10/10/2007, -8/+30From the linked Bloomberg article: "Bush said Congress should update the law to include people in the U.S. suspected of possessing significant information on terrorists or enemy government plots. The law now allows the government to get court approval for eavesdropping only if it shows a clear link to an enemy government or terrorist group." "While Bush's proposal would expand the pool of surveillance targets, the government would still have to offer evidence that the person would yield important intelligence to get a warrant."
OMG, EVERYBODY PANIC! - orlyfactor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22But what if Congress is tapping my phone when I call them?! Think of the feedback they'd get on their end!
- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19we are trying, trust me, but it isn't as easy as onlookers might imagine. and we might need help. and if we do, the whole world needs to be awake to avoid another world war.
- rx9x9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19I don't really think we should all panic based on this article but your comment has got to be the one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. NEVER give up your rights to privacy because you think you don't have something to hide. Privacy is the foundation on which freedom is built. I can't believe how stupid some people are in this country!
- rinkjustice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Wow. That is scary what you said. What happens if they make a mistake? Or you get framed?
I guess as long as it's not you, you don't care. Scary. - cloudyprison, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17"the government would still have to offer evidence"
Bush Administration's Definition of Evidence = no evidence shrouded with a veil of Executive Privilege - nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18the oversight is the problem...you Bushies don't want any,
- peterjmag, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13"Be heard."
By the title's logic, it sounds like I'll "be heard" either way. - psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13it might be veiled but it is still another very deliberate step towards less life, liberty and the ability to pursue happiness. we are all starting to wake up but i fear they are beating us to the punch, again.
- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12http://www.digg.com/security/AT_T_Spying_on_the_Home_Front
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Do you really believe that this administration would allow something like evidence get in the way?
- atomsforpeace, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11only a terrorist with a guilty conscience would claim not to be a terrorist before anyone even accused him of anything. therefore..... =-O
- rderveloy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Iamnotwhoiam,
The problem with your statement is that it assumes that the only thing a person would want to hide is an illegal activity.
Now, may I ask, do you have curtains or blinds on your windows? Do you have locks on your doors? Do you keep your money in a bank instead of out on your front porch? Do you have a lock box for your important documents and valuables? Do you feel the need to protect your personal information to prevent identity theft?
If you answer yes to any of these questions, you have something to hide. It's not a question if what you're hiding is illegal, its a question of weather or not it's anybody else’s business.
Lets say you were applying for a credit card and were giving out your personal information over the phone. Information like your social security number, your mother's maiden name, your date of birth, etc... Anything that would help lead to identity theft. Do you really trust the government to keep that information secure? Do you really trust that no one listening in on the tap won't be tempted to use that information for nefarious purposes?
Everyone has something to hide. It may not be illegal, but there's a reason you have curtains or blinds on your windows and locks on your doors. You don't want people sticking their nose in your private business.
However, if you truly feel you have nothing to hide, feel free to post your social security number, any bank account numbers or credit card numbers, sexual orientation, race, gender, fingerprints, current address, date of birth, and mother's maiden name on the internet for the world to see. - AnarkeIncarnate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Moron! Privacy is an expectation. If you let the government control you just because you are not "doing anything wrong" there is the greatest possibility they will FIND something to put you away for.
If you give me six lines written
by the most honest man, I will find
something in them to hang him.
—Cardinal Richelieu - Endemoniada, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10...until the day you joke about anything even remotely violent, and they take you in for questioning anyway. I seem to recall an article that was on the front page just a few days ago, about a guy being questioned simply for reading in a coffeeplace. Nothing more. Some paranoid freak reported him to the FBI "just because".
If they didn't need more than that to question him, they certainly don't need more than a bad joke or untimely comment to do the same, or worse, to you.
Just because they don't have to, doesn't mean they won't. - crweaks23, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Call you a moron and pretty much dismiss anything you say as ignorant?
- n8glenn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The problem is that everyone is so brainwashed by the media that you can't even tell the truth in this country anymore! The truth is some asinine conspiracy theory to most people. If you even come close to it, they will brand you a lunatic and run you out of town!
- SelfAbortion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It's not the Diggers that need to wake up. Most of America does not know what Digg is.
- Novagenesis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I don't care if they wiretap my phone, until my friend says "yeah, I'm kinda sick of Bush" and we both end up in a cell.
- hiphoc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Yes, government enemy plots. We must now realize that the federal government is now writing laws to protect itself and its power. Very ***** scary, its almost as if the federal gov is growing into a corporate person. Ooops, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has already been incorporated.
- anjinash, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11"Go back to bed America, your government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed America, here's American Gladiators. Here's 56 channels of it. Watch these pituitary retards bang their ***** skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go America, you are free... to do as we tell you. You are free, to do as we tell you."
-Bill Hicks
Sigh. - psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10you think this ***** only happens in books?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9OK, I just wanted to add, for future reference (if anyone interested is reading this) that this argument "I've got nothing to hide, so I don't care," has been pretty much demolished as a rational response by Daniel J. Solove, Associate Professor, George Washington University Law School. (article available here in .pdf: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 - register to download). Excerpt: "Canadian privacy expert David Flaherty ... argues: There is no sentient being in the Western world who has little or no regard for his or her personal privacy; those who would attempt such claims cannot withstand even a few minutes’ questioning about intimate aspects of their lives without capitulating to the intrusiveness of certain subject matters."
I recommend all who want to effectively rebut this RETARDED response, typified by UtopiaInTheSky's comment, download the paper. It's quite short. It may provide some useful rebuttal material. - psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8if you think they are honestly just trying to take care of terrorism, you are an imbecile.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Yeah we can thank all the weak ***** in this country who whorship authority and would rather be "safe" than have Freedom. Nevermind the fact that driving in traffic poses much more danger than terrorism. It's always the weak that look for a group to belong to. The government knows this and uses that fact to control the "citizens". Wake the ***** up People!
- iJump, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9@all those people that think there's nothing we can do: WTF is wrong with you?1?!
This bill stands to strip away your very right to privacy, and you just run away with your tail between your legs?!?! Goddammit!!! You cowards know better than to run away from fear. It will ALWAYS haunt you wherever you go until you vigorously stab it to death. There's only two plays in the game of Democracy; Fight for your freedoms and liberties, or die trying. Those who lock themselves in the freezer and hope for the best will always lose in the end.
Now, I want all of you d-bags to get on those telephones and get this bill killed! I don't give a *****'s sake about how you do it, just get the damn job done! I know every one of you soldiers have secrets to hide, and they're gonna get blown wide open if that bill gets to the executive branch.
Now. LET'S MOVE! MOVE! MOVE
//Army.toggleSargentMode() - avasol, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Traitor to the American people and the world.
- gogun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7those who give up their freedoms for security, get none and deserve it
- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7unfortunately the 'proper warrent' is requiring less and less proof. and they are pushing from all other angles to achieve the ability to 'legally' search, sieze, wiretap and anything else without any reason other than an official said so. basically they would like the entire nation to believe that they take care of us as loving parents instead of brutally raping our freedoms for their personal gain.
- iJump, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!
https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?alertId=307&pg=makeACall - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8So if you bought The New Pearl Harbor or The Creature From Jekyll Island with your credit card, you are doomed?
- joe573, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Well where would you draw the line lamnotwhoiam? If they wanted to come and search your house for no reason....would you still be ok with that as long as you have nothing to hide? If they could pull you off the road and search your car for no reason, would you be ok with that as long as you have nothing to hide? It's attitudes like yours that have let the government get to where it is today and they will continue to grab power as long as we will let them. It has to stop somewhere.
- Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Hey chief, its not "Us Americans" running it. Its the ***** morons that were elected by other morons. Our electoral pool is pretty shallow. We either pick someone from the piss filled shallow end or someone from the "Something brown is floating in the pool" end.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"There is no sentient being in the Western world who has little or no regard for his or her personal privacy; those who would attempt such claims cannot withstand even a few minutes’ questioning about intimate aspects of their lives without capitulating to the intrusiveness of certain subject matters."
- avasol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The USA. Formerly known as the Land of the Free, now known as the Land of the Free Complimentary Towels and Choice of Condiment. (Mustard or Ketchup).
- silverwolfe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I don't care if they wiretap my phone until they're listening to classified business information regarding myself and my clients, oh wait...
- n8glenn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7you mean you BELIEVE that this administration would want to tie it's own hands concerning warrantless wiretapping? They are they ones pushing the boundaries, and getting away with it. If they push through a new law the only purpose is to give themselves more power. If you don't recognize that, then you must not have been paying attention for the past six years. The war on terror is a ruse! Nearly every time they "capture a terrorist" it's just a case of arresting someone because they look arabic, then letting them go later because there was NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing, but only the captures make the headlines, the aquittals do not. Wake up! The more you blindly trust politicians and fat cats, the more they will screw you! Do you not get the basic concept that rich people are selfish and politicians are to be watched closely?
- corvin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6How can congress legalize something that is clearly illegal, and it's against the basis this country was founded on. Habeas Corpus; You need a f*ckin warrent to wiretap, and you need evidence of wrongdoing to obtain said warrent. Does anyone in Washington remember habeas corpus? God I swear half the people on digg would be better running the country.
- stolenisotope1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9I just saw a doco last night about it. The way you Americans run your country is horrifying, hopefully somebody can come in and fix your country up.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Do you have curtains? I expect you won't be needing them, either, since you have no concept of privacy.
- todcreative, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5i think your icon speaks directly to your comment.
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