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- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+87funny, this administration argues the "if you have nothing to hide" line and wants more invasions of privacy, except when it comes to themselves. 5 million deleted emails, private testimony with no transciption and not under oath, redactions and blank pages. *****.
- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+84Ahh, Bush needs less power, not more. And the majority of the US knows this.
When are these people going to get it through their phucking heads already?
It just amazes me. - pinab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+64"Hey guys I ***** up your country, lol, give me more power so I can do more of the same."
:hurf: - econoar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+67It'd be cool if we all started a revolution. It'd catch them off guard. Plus, I'm really bored currently and chaos is fun. Who's down?
- punchingjudy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+48Holy crap, already. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO IMPEACH THIS PSYCHO?!
- xerigen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Bush Administration: "Ahh, let's do it anyways!"
- msgyrd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28US Citizens: "Who was kicked off American Idol last week?"
- ignition, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25When we find a white stain on a dress apparently. Because that is a much worse offense then say...Lying to a country to start a war.
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25I'm all for greater surveillence. Let's start with the whitehouse. It seems to be the greatest threat to freedom right now.
- econoar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26@Checkmate
Rule #1 when trying to prove something as one of the biggest inside jobs the World has ever seen...Don't post your evidence on MySpace. In some weird way it MIGHT hurt your credibility. - mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21It's ok. They made sure all the U.S. Attorneys left are all "Loyal Bushies", rather than "Loyal Americans", so they don't really have to worry about Elizabeth de la Vega's suggested prosecution for violating 18 USC 371.
As it turns out, by reading her book US v. Bush http://www.amazon.com/United-States-George-Bush-al/dp/1583227563/ , it would have taken just ONE United States Attorney with loyalty to their Oath to have the Federal Marshals perp-walk the entire White House.
It really is a good thing, for them, to have purged the DOJ of anyone "Politically Unreliable". And we all now see exactly WHY it was so important. - xerigen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Indeed. Double standards FTW.
- rockfen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18It's a known fact that they are abusing the powers they already have to spy on peace activists and veterans here in the usa.
- mikeyeah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Why is he even asking? We all know this administration will do whatever it wants anyway. After all, the Constitution is only a piece of paper. Right, Bush? I loathe him and the world would be a better place without him.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17The Senate and the Congress must remember their oaths and be accountable. They can refuse the president's injustices individually and collectively. They can stop being cowards and stand up against this tyranny.
There may easily come a return of McCarthyism but this time it may be against any public servant who remained complacent while constitutional liberties were stolen from the American people. - azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Impeach Cheney, then Bush in that order.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Where does it cross the line from
'have to be allowed to monitor for terrorists, for your safety' to
'have to be allowed to monitor for any dissent', to
'you said something bad about the emperor, come with us'?
At the very least, if the government claims it absolutely needs the power to monitor everything, then there should be a completely independent monitor of the monitors. Or, 'who will watch the watchmen?"
And any government that claims it must be allowed to watch everything, but tries to hide everything about itself, isn't that more than a little creepy? - ALCx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17***** Bush, and ***** you if you voted for him. You can eat my ass, you stupid *****.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Congress: "Uh, no?"
- 22magnum, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14What happened to this country, we used to honor freedom and now you don't even need warrants because "its a matter of national security". And what the ***** is a terrorist. Its the dumbest name ever it could just a easily be a horrorist and we could be spending all of our money on a war on horror. sound silly? I agree. Maybe we should recognize the sovereignty of foreign nations and stopping making everyone so mad that they want to fly over here and kill us. O wait.. the government wants us to think that they hate us because they are "radical Muslims". Well if a country invades us and steals all of our resources im not gonna be pissed off because I am a radical Christian.
well I'm getting off topic...
magnum out. - Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12> ATTN: DumbMasses ( Dumb asses)
Thanks for the parentheses. I don't think we would have seen your point, especially if you were wearing a hat.
> President Bush has his faults (Spending like a Dhimmacrat and the whole open borders thing) but he DOES understand the threat we face…
If he's spending poorly, and he's a Republican, isn't he spending like a Republican? And he understands the threat we face? Is that why he invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al Qaeda (Iraq, in case you didn't follow) and then took his eye off of Afghanistan so that the Taliban are coming back into power? I don't think he understands his shoes, much less how to fight a war effectively.
> As much as I did (and still do) dislike Clinton….I supported his military decisions. I didn’t always agree, but I supported them. The reason(s) I did were because I am an AMERICAN and I was an active duty soldier.
Thank you for serving. You followed orders like you were supposed to. However, no president is above scrutiny. Not to mention that the Republicans poo-pooed if not opposed his military decisions. Were they out of line then?
>You guys would be well served realizing where you live and where your freedoms come from.
We do. They come from the Constitution, the document that Bush and his administration seem hell-bent on revoking.
> Those freedoms are what the Muslims want to end…
How many Muslims want to tap my phone? And didn't it ever occur to you that going willy-nilly into a police state is EXACTLY what the terrorists want? To destroy western civilization seems to mean a giant explosion to you (you're more likely to die in a car accident than in a terrorist attack, just so you know). Did it ever once occur to you that by chipping away at the first and fourth amendments, you accomplish the same thing?
>you are only hurting the nation you (falsely) claim to love.
Funny. By supporting policies such as these, you're letting our nation become just as bereft of freedom. Do some reading instead of beating your chest and waving your dick. - OneZeroZeroOne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Sometimes I find myself wondering if they are really power-hungry corporate shill new-world-order megalomaniacs...
or if they really are that astonishingly self-deluded and ignorant. Part of me wants to believe that they think they're doing the right thing for the common good and honestly can't understand why just about everyone is against them....then the logical part of me slaps the other part upside the head and says "Duh...get real!" - bsmeteronhigh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Well, you'll be happy to know that they've been keeping a watch on everything you do on the Internet, already. Every time you go to that website featuring small statues of poodles, they've recorded your name and started a file on you. It all happened because Ms. Edith Mertz of Santa Rosa California, also loves statues of poodles and parked her car across the street from a recent peace march while getting her hair done. They've noticed your electric bill was a little high last month, compared to the previous year and are, at this very moment, wondering if there might not be something illegal going on in your home. This evening they're flying a helicopter over your house and doing a thermal scan. Oh, and that My Home Med email you received put you on a watch list as a possible terrorist because "My Home Med" sounds like Mohammad, so your prescriptions are being watched as well to make sure you're not involved in illegal drugs...especially since you needed sudafed for your allergies. Oh, the webs they weave. Tragically funny.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You've studied the Constitution long and hard, but are unaware that the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is from the Declaration of Independence?
You advocate the illegal suppression of our Constitutionally guaranteed Rights and call yourself a Libertarian? If there were any justice in this universe you would spontaneously combust right now.
Your cluelessness regarding islam and who the real terrorists are is no surprise. There's really nothing I can do for you, you are quite beyond hope or help. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+101) Without the Constitution, there is no nation.
2) You seem terrified of the terrorists... that means they won. You can thank Bush for creating more terrorists than ever before. His ridiculous policies have been a beacon to grow terrorism world wide on an unprecedented scale. They couldn't do it without him. - LucidDreamerX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@djparadise
I am sorry that you are so terrified of muslims. I wish you would get to know one some time because most of them are quite nice.
There are over a billion muslims in the world. Try to imagine a billion muslims. Certainly there aren't a billion terrorists. Certainly there isn't half a percent of a billion terrorists.
Muslims don't want to kill you. Muslims don't want to convert you. Muslims, as a whole, don't care about you. - DurkaMcDurk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Sarajevo...
Nixon didn't receive jail time because he was pardoned by the VP. Soon to become President Ford. Clinton was impeached, but wasn't found guilty of any criminal acts. Therefore, he wasn't removed from office. Impeachment and being removed from office, and jail time, are 2 completely different things.
(and no I am not a Bush supporter and I do want him out of there as much as anyone else...) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10That should be stamped on the new quarters.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Given that the RNC is already feeding information about protesters to law enforcement, I think it's time these asshats were taken down SEVERAL pegs. I'm sorry to sound partisan, but if this is what the Republican party has become and is in favor of, it deserves to be thrown on the trash heap of history with other totalitarian ideologies.
Enough! - azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Slowly? He's been corrupt long before becoming president.
- turpenine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Nothing to hide, nothing to fear comrade.
in soviet russia, identity steals you? - wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8ok... bush. if you want to spy on us freely than you should give up your privacy right too. so let's put camera in your ranch, fair enough?
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ranch? Hell, no.
Jenna and Barbara's rooms. - AtlGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7ericab007, I don't see how you can support this. It's already been shown the govt can't follow the rules they have now. It wasn't that long ago that it was announced that the feds were getting information from the telecommunication companies without the official paperwork...just saying give me the info on this guy and I'll get you the paperwork later. Of course many many times that paperwork never got done. That's incredibly sloppy and to make matters worse the superiors were just as bad at enforcement. I'm sorry, but my feeling is the tools are in place now to find terrorists. It just seems like they're lazy and don't want to do things the proper way. I hope like hell Congress doesn't give in to this BS.
- Cutkomp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hmm... I've been very critical of Bush for years now. I'm still here. Perhaps it should at least be considered that some smoking out may need to be done. Complain about your liberties being violated, it's the right thing to do. Now is not a good time to follow herds though. Only appeal to authority when absolutely need be, and even then a person should appeal that authority.
- P5ycHo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Or use a piece of lead....
- kroenecker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The American Idol comment just about sums up what is wrong with our country.
There literally are too many "dumb" people out there who know nothing about how badly politics affect us. What's worse: they don't care.
Sometimes I think that this administration is just a litmus test for worse things to come. - jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Bush is slowly becoming corrupted absolutely...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"It'd be cool if we all started a revolution. It'd catch them off guard. Plus, I'm really bored currently and chaos is fun. Who's down?"
Good Idea, Every high school and university student should stop going to school and not go back until Bush is impeached,charged with war crimes, the patriot act is thrown out and a REAL investigation is held to find out who else is behind all of this including Cheney.
anti-war rallies and such don't work because they only last for a day or two then there over,you need something that can last. - jgzman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The Muslims want to take away our rights?
Well, Bush is hard at work removing our right to privacy, our right of habeas corpus, our right (well, expectation, really) of an impartial judicial system, right to inspect our government, and, if you look hard, you might think he's trying to remove our right to vote.
So, what PRECISELY are we gaining here? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6How can this even be considered? It's clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL. In fact, the spying already being done is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. They can't just make a law to change the constitution, it requires an AMENDMENT.
- wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5people are too busy.. watching who going to win american idol or whatever reality show going on right now, another thing I hear a lot from people "I don't have time for political *****, is not going pay my bills or put food on the table.. " I just can't wait until some thing really bad happen in our broken($$$) democracy. all the sleeping sheep going wake up and be like "wtf happen? I thought U.S was freedom blah blah"
- Plinkotic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4djparadise: You're a ***** tit, and you're one of the reasons a lot of Conservatives are jumping ship right now. Stop blathering talking points and think, sir. Not everyone disagreeing with you is a liberal. Everyone disagreeing with you simply exists in reality.
Secondly, you inept bastard, do not go on like Anne Coulter. Her, Hannity, O Reilly, Scarborough and Beck need to be blended together into a smoothie of hate and forcefed to idiots who watch Foxnews. Until they burst.
Just for the record, we burned your damned White House to the ground in 1812. That's how it's done. Get to work.
/goddamnit, Bushies with Lukewarm IQs are as silly as moonbats - wongburger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5is this a joke. does bush really need more power? does bush really need any power? we elected a power hungry moron, lets just admit it..
- jgzman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, I do want a real-time feed. If Bush did masturbate to the latest torture video from Gitmo, while knowing full-well that he was on camera, I think we might be able to break the shell around that last 30% of his supporters.
Possibly not. - Matthew720, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Actually,
The vast majority of Muslims (aka mainstream Islam) oppose the Taliban and the fear and hatred they spread as much as most Americans do. This week only, there were attacks in Morocco in which more than 26 Moroccans (Muslims) were killed by Al-Qaida. The same happened in Sharam Al-Sheikh, Egypt last year where most of the killed and wounded were Egyptians. Now granted, the fact that we prop up and support dictatorships around the Middle East (Saudi Arabia, Iraq in the 1980s, etc.) to serve our own interests doesn't make us likeable in the Muslim/Arab world, but there is a big difference between those who burn U.S. flags on TV and those who actually carry out attacks (read: Al-Qaeda). To lump 1 billion Muslims and 300 million Arabs into one category is foolish. Surely, you're oversimplifying matters with empty slogans and zero facts. That's a surefire way of losing your credibility in a heartbeat. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7bush is such is *****, we need less surveillance!! the surveillance we had on 9/11 worked, yeah right, the first thing we need is more surveillance.
- Atomicbomb22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Bush asks Congress for more intel powers"
Doesn't Bush understand that you can't ask congress to increase your intelligence. - jgzman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Strictly speaking, I have no problem with surveillance of foreigners, as long as it is done within reasonable limits. Foreigners are not entitled to ALL the protections of the US Constitution, but they are still human, and entitled to certain rights.
The reason that I oppose this move is simple: I do not trust our government. They wiretapped citizens illegally. They are holding people at Gitmo without charge or trial. They employ a mercenary group known as Blackwater that I am uneasy about. (I'm sure they employ much less savory characters, but I don't know about them) They have close ties to rich people, the oil industry, and big business; because I am none of those people, I fear that my interests may not be watched out for as rigorously as theirs. They have lied to us, over, and over, and over. Some lies big, some lies small, but they all worry me. Bush refuses to bow to the will of the people. With all this in mind, why should I be willing to issue the government more powers? They are totally irresponsible with the powers they have!
No, Bush isn't doing all the work on weekends, but it is simpler, when typing or speaking, to blame "Bush" rather than "Bush, his policies, the bureaucracy that he is in charge of, the people he has appointed for loyalty rather than competence, and the people who influence him." If you wish, anywhere I blame "Bush" for anything, you may refer to this post.
I look forward to your (calm) rebuttal. Civilized discussion is the best way to solve anything. -
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