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- johnkalel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30FL resident here, and having watched Jeb! as gov over the years, I really don't think he's going to go for the Oval Office. No prepwork, no position statements, and more to the point, no desire to have to follow the current lousy act, brother or no. It's going to be tough for any GOPer to say, without wincing, that GWB was such a great president. That said, the Dems are likely to once again shoot themselves in the foot, and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We really need an effective third party candidate.
- Marty1h, on 10/12/2007, -13/+38All the headlines about Saddam Hussein, and no mention of his career as a CIA puppet along with the decades long support of Donald Rumsfeld (if Rummy is "the greatest defense secretary ever" as Bush says, then why isn't he still running the department?) and Dick Cheney, along with the Bush family. Watch for Jeb to come in from the shadows and win the Presidency in '08.
- CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21FL resident here too. how did the stupid brother wind up running the country?
Jeb can actually think, knows two languages, the value in wildlife conservation, and can actually rub two words together to form a sentance when a disaster effects our state.
I guess like everything else in america now, you fail upwards - hayalci, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16The point is especcially important, thinking that he was executed for killing 148 people in 1982.
NOT for using chemical weapons, which have questionable "origins"
NOT for the Iran war, in which Saddam is supported by the US to attack Iran.
The quick execution only supports the view that he was silenced on these two points, which may have revealed a lot of "nastiness". - arpad, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Yes, those conspiracy theorists are all so deep. There's hardly a one of 'em that isn't far too insightful to be led astray by something as inconsequential as mere facts. No, they see beyond the obvious seen by "the masses" to the underlying conspiracy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Conspiracy theorists are also classic candidates for paranoid schizophrenia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_schizophrenia#Subtypes - perendengue, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22could this be worded any more partisan?
if you want to be taken seriously, drop the agenda - inquebiss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9lingering violence? I don't know if your news is different than my news, but violence seems to be worse for the past two or three weeks.
- bede, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16But the Iraqi administration is so much a puppet of the US that you can almost see the strings. Saying that the US couldn't have stopped the execution if they'd wanted is just laughable.
- mdfrake, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Partisan? Maybe. Sensationalist, definitely. As a Political Science major, we learned that the media is biased, but not in the way you might think. Yes, there are liberal slanting newspapers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/), but there are also conservative slanting newspapers (http://www.washtimes.com/). The problem is that they don't advertise which way they slant. Both take stories from AP and Reuters and then add their own spin/message. Essentially, they cater to their customers. That is the bias.
Newspapers are a business, news is a business, and the business of business is to make money. This writer knows his audience, and he is writing to that audience. As long as his customers demand this type of writing, he will give it to them. That is how they sell more. Why do you think Fox News keeps Bill O'Reilly? Because he is a fair and unbiased political commentator with no agenda? No, it is because he caters to his audience, and as long as they watch Fox News can control the advertising dollars airing during his show. And worse, he will be as over the top that he can be, because sensationalism sells. Why do people slow down and crane their necks to look at car crashes? Why do audiences immediately gather around a fire? Because we love the sensation of tragedy.
Yes, I am a cynic. I am discontented. I believe that too many people don't think about where their news comes from, or what it is trying to sell. I am also a libertarian who believes that Bush and a Republican Congress have given the President too much power over the last 6 years. But this story is just an editorial comment. Yes Hussein is dead, and yes the U.S. under Reagan and H.W. Bush had ties to him. But to think that he was hanged to cover up those mistakes is sensationalist. Hussein is dead because the Iraqis wanted him dead. They didn't even want to wait for a trial. Look at how many of his defense attorneys were murdered because they didn't want him to have a fair trial. It it were up to Iraq, they would have hung him old west posse style a day or two after he was captured. That's it. That's all there was to his hanging. No cover up. No mob-like hit. Period. - carlhungis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Out of curiosity, I am curious what the exact number of people from Iraq that Saddam was responsible for killing compared to the number of people from Iraq that have died since Bush decided to liberate them?
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Al Capone was put in jail for tax evasion not mob crimes.
- boxc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9ok.. I'll bite.. um maybe the political climate is a changing? maybe this isn't a completely US centric forum on an international issues site? maybe there's a consensus for being pissed at some US policy decisions (even within the US)?
- autodata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Iraqi court, Iraqi judges, Iraqi Lawyers..."
Not true. There were a number of Americans directly involved, even as attorneys for Saddam. The court was set up by the CPA, not the Iraqi gov't, and there's been no shortage of contact between other Americans officials and officials responsible for the special tribunal. - P5ycHo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Please elaborate on "our efforts in the Middle East" ?
Why are you there? What is there to gain?
I know I am going to get dugg down, but I want to know.. - portwojc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I guess trying to have the execution delayed means nothing?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/02/saddam.execution/index.html
Some truth is probably in this article but having to always wear the hip waders to get out to it is really annoying. There were other factors to consider and other countries to keep in mind too. How many countries had back door deals with the former regime violating sanctions? That got awfully quiet real quick. - databyss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Rummy and Hussein being buddies:
http://frontalot.com/gfx/pix/rummy_shakes_hussein.jpg
MC Frontalot has a song that discusses this topic.
http://frontalot.com/index.php/content.php?page=lyrics&lyricid=30 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8C'mon gunner. Let's go interview the 25,000 who are mortally wounded. Your statement is liek saying only people who drink can evaluate the effects of alcoholism. Drunk drivers don't only hit other drunks. I have never been in the military but then, neither has GW. Are you really saying that only soldiers can evaluate a war's value? Answer this... who is getting rich from this war. I won't mention names. But look it up. What 10 Americans have made the most money from this war?? You'll find the Bush family, Cheney family and Rumsfeld family right up there.
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You don't counter an argument by saying your opponents are all schyzophrenic paranoiacs.
- Oceas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Jeb isn't going to win anything, and he doesn't have to. All you have to do is watch Pelosi and the rest of the democrats soften their line against President Bush since winning control of the House and Senate to see that everything they say is a theatrical presentation of lies. They are all part of the same broken 'good ole boy's club', and that's not going to change.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@mdfrake
Regardless of which side of the political bell curve you are on, I agree with what you have just said 110% - ButterBuddha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Its more like what the Godfather trilogy suggests....."Its just business, nothing personal"
- BigFoot48, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Amazing that Saddam didn't take advantage of all his court rants to expose all these secrets. Could it be that there are none?
The Iraqis executed an evil, mass-murdering dictator that like to dip people into acid baths for his amusement. The only secret is why they didn't do it years ago.
Maybe the Cubans will get some courage and do it too. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Digg is filled with idiot neocons.
Disgusting. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The following is a press statement give by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad the Former Prime Minister of Malaysia.
On the Holy day of Eid, the world watched in horror at the barbaric lynching of President Saddam Hussein of Iraq, allegedly for crimes against humanity. This public murder was sanctioned by the War Criminals, President Bush and Prime Minister Blair.
This sadistic act broadcasted to the whole world is a travesty of justice, and was meant to demonstrate the imperial power of the United States and serves as a warning to peace loving peoples that we must either bow to the dictates of the Bush regime or face the consequences of a public lynching.
The lynching was also an insult to all Muslims, as it occurred on the Holy Day of Eid, whereby Muslims devote themselves to prayer and forgiveness. It is all too clear that the war criminal Bush has no sensitivities whatsoever for Muslims on their pilgrimage to Mecca. This barbaric act is a sacrilege!
The entire trial process was a mockery of justice, no less a Kangaroo Court. Defence counsels were brutally murdered, witnesses threatened and judges removed for being impartial and replaced by puppet judges. Yet, we are told that Iraq was invaded to promote democracy, freedom and justice.
A peaceful country has now been turned into a war zone. Over 500,000 children died as a result of the criminal economic sanctions, and the latest findings by the medical journal, Lancet reveals that over 650,000 Iraqis have died since the illegal invasion of 2003.
The War Criminal Bush has killed more Iraqis than President Saddam ever did, if in fact he was guilty of any crime. If President Saddam Hussein is guilty of war crimes, then the world must find Bush, Blair and Howard equally guilty and the International Criminal Court cannot but prosecute these war criminals. The inaction thus far by the International Criminal Court against Bush, Blair and Howard exposes the double standard of the said Court, when it does not hesitate to prosecute war crimes committed in Dalfur, Rwanda and Kosovo.
If we support human rights and justice, we must condemn this barbaric lynching of President Saddam Hussein. There can be no excuse whatsoever for this injustice under any circumstances. War Criminal Bush and the puppet regime in Iraq have made a mockery of the Rule of Law. - JordanRL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6You know, I'm amazed anyone would give any person the type of credit that conspiratists give Bush. He, evidentally runs the ENTIRE world top down. How can you possibly run the headline "Bush Silences..." when the Iraqi interium government, against the will of all western nations, threw him on the fast track to death, not us?
Further, how could Saddam ever be considered a credible witness, as the article suggests?
If you want to moan about Bush, go ahead. I don't particularly like him. But he's not God. He's not everywhere. And you certainly shouldn't give him the type of credit that many seem to. - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2But Saddam wasn't tried and hanged for gassing tens of thousands of his own people. He was tried for signing the death warrants of 148 civilians. An offense for which hanging is certainly justified, but as far as Saddam's atrocities go, it was just the tip of the iceberg. One really does have to wonder why such a brutal dictator would be tried for such a relatively innocuous offense. We didn't put Eichmann on trial for not paying his traffic tickets.
I'm sure at least part of it had to do with the relative ease of proving that Saddam signed the death warrants. It made for a quick and simple show trial, which Saddam stood no chance of winning, and the Iraqi people clearly wanted the trapdoor opened as quickly as possible. The fact remains that Saddam will never stand trial for his real war crimes, and as the article suggests, this might be because of the messy connections that would've been dragged out into the open. This isn't a conspiracy, it's just effective policy. Maybe it's better for world opinion that the United States retains some semblance of the moral high ground. - Spankov, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Jeez, just how much of a prick are you?
- hayalci, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10You cannot call it a fair trial, in a country invaded by US and GB. Saddam was all times held captive at US facilities. Saddam's lawyers were one by one assasinated. The judge that said "you are not a dictator" to Saddam was removed immediately and in his place a judge that calls Saddam a "dictator" came.
No one even implies that Saddam was not guilty, but all the concerns about a fair judgement are valid. And the article's point about "Silencing a dangerous witness" should be tought provoking. - GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's a thought. Ponder it.
If you're going to make a point, put aside your personal animous towards the President when engaging a topic completely unrelated to the President. - twitrock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"legacy" nothing....it's just too embarrasing for that family to consider what they have done for this country to be of any good...
- zm634, on 10/12/2007, -13/+15Aww come on.. This is bush bashing at its lowest level. "Silences a dangerous witness?" How about "Had no part in the execution of a tyrant?"
- GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Bury: inaccurate
This passage is inaccurate.
"Nor will Hussein be available to give his account of the mixed messages delivered by George H.W. Bush’s ambassador April Glaspie before Hussein’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Was there another American “green light” or did Hussein just hear what he wanted to hear?"
The April Glaspie story is closed. She testified before the Congress about her conversation. It's on the public record. It's the exact opposite of the description contrived by Parry. - 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2-> But he's not God. He's not everywhere.
Please do us all a favor and let *him* know. - arTech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is for all those comments directed at "liberals" to "ask soldiers how they feel about being there". Well here is your answer. I've been to Iraq twice and will go again in June. I hate it over there. There is no reason for us to be there. End of story.
- carlhungis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9I doubt that the republicans are going to make much of an effort to win this next term. The next president is going to be facing HUGE problems left over from the current administration. They will pretty much be forced to pull out of Iraq and raise taxes. If the Dems win, the republicans will use both of those against them, which will pretty much guarantee only one term.
- SEN5241, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Crack-pot left-wing conspiracy propaganda and buried as such.
- Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Then again most great wars causes were attributed on what the average digg user calls a conspiracy. Either you like it or not conspiracies happen, but most probably are not as gross as many theorists claim. It is not a lame conspiracy theory that Saddam was co-working with CIA for his wars and some of his crimes, it's the plain truth. It's not an overstatement that some people -especially those in power- value human life a lot less than we do. It's not a lie that politicians used alternative methods to succeed to their purposes,simply when you lying about such matters you are part of a conspiracy.
- cassholio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Godwin's Law!
- cassholio, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Buried as inaccurate. Unless you've been living in a cave, the Iraqi's chose to hang Saddam. Not us. He got a fairer trial then anyone he sentenced to death.
- DreKor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you really need to start closing your ironic tags
- kylebrothert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There are others who know about Saddam's activities. He had a staff. And they can talk to whoever they want.
- DallasTexas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Very interesting find. The good republicans in here will no doubt dismiss everything cited as either a bunch of lies, poor speculation or a big don't care. Thank goodness the new generation of Americans will render these fools as fringe elements along with Nazi's and the KKK and vote their schmuck government officials out of office.
- cassholio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1darn it all, you let the secret out. I'm forwarding this comment to the Evul Fasccchhhiisst NeoKKKon department head and you'll have your license revoked. Don't bother coming to the next meeting-we already changed the secret handshake.
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Government is inefficient, violent, immoral and incompetent whether or not there's people behind the curtain.
The only reason there might be some people controlling the government from behind the curtains is because you have a government in the first place. - Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@mdfrake: of course it's totally sensationalist, no question about that. But you gotta admit, "dead men tell no tales"
- 10lbhammer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2this is "political opinion"! if you don't like someone else's opinion, you don't have to listen to (or read) it.
besides, what about "opinion" is innacurate? - BigFoot48, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3What are you, 14? Get an education and try to contribute something worthwhile to the discussion.
- Antitorgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Prime Rib of Propecia?
- cavsct94, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Funny how Bush is both fabulously stupid and an evil genius simultaneously to you people. Our government can't put together even the most basic of plans. Quit turning them into Machiavelli you conspiracy nuts.
Never mind that we wanted to keep Saddam in prison longer and not execute him as soon and it was the Iraqi government that demanded his transfer. -
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