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- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -7/+40A couple of zealots with weighty opinions I see. Are you sophisticants defending the leader of your cult of personality by rote, or do you have true purpose with your arguments?
Oh and dukey, I need no explaining of Bush's behavior; it's clearly thinly-veiled corporatism with a veneer of "religiosity" to rope in the dopes.
I mean how is it some holy thing to let tens of thousands die in a war while sanctimoniously banning embryonic stem cell research? How can a culture of life be created when the government clearly doesn't care about human life past the blastocyst stage?
Superman or whatever your name is, if you can't keep up then just sit it out. Don't worry- the smart people are here and we'll make sure we fix all the things you fools ***** up. - makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16Try doing ANYTHING with an effective Senate majority of 49. If you want to blame anyone, blame Joe Lieberman, who continues to enable the GOP to filibuster every major Democratic measure.
Not to mention impeachment would serve the Republicans well in 2008. They would call it political revenge for Clinton and effectively legitimize all the BS these jokers have done wrong the last 7 years. - pyman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11I'm not a conspiracy nut but it seems that Cheney is doing a lot of things that really scar the hell out of me...
- rossmcd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5How do you figure that federal funding for research is not allowed under the constitution? That seems like a pretty broad claim to make, especially since there's tons of it going on.
- SeraphimJulius, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Hopefully in 2008 when the elections start the Digg community will go into full swing and take the actions of the internet life to the real world by going to the polls and talking to people about the issues. The only reason we have so many people who are so god damn clueless about whats going on is because they are so misinformed! They may watch the news but come on, who the hell gets real info from CNN, or FOX news? It is time that the mass media sees that they can't shove ***** down our mouths and that we actually make a damn difference. If we do not, Congress and rest of the ***** in DC will just do what they usually do, which is ***** us over and give themselves more money.
- Cole2026, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Bush has squeezed dry any remaining nationalism I had for this country.
- eatsushi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Can't the digg community do anything about Congress??? I mean, strength in numbers..look at what we did to the HD-DVD key code. This is our time. If we keep saying "yea but this IS digg" implying nothing will get done, then nothing will get done. Our stupid Democrats aren't doing *****, so ***** it, I say we stir up the pot a little and start our own fiasco. They say we can't do something, if it's un-Amercan, I say we remind them of how much they screwed us over for the past 60+ years by telling them to ***** off, b/c the important thing right now for the sake and safety of Americans as well as the world, is to remind this mediocre minded politicians who they work for. Digg me down for it but I'm just as tired as the rest of us of hearing about all the mess we will have to clean up in the upcoming future. Rebuilding our foreign relations as well as getting unified with our own people should be number one priority for starters...yes it's easier said than done, but that is what it's all about in the end. Working hard and to work together to achieve certain goals. I'm tired of being labeled as a "lazy American" and I say the time is now to start getting rid of it.
- jbhannah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Reason has nothing to do with it anymore, they're far beyond hope of finding any at all. It's a mix of power-tripping, straight-up BS, and thinking that Americans are all stupid and need to be babysat and told what's right and wrong, good and bad. Unfortunately they've duped enough people into believing that that's the case that they can get away with some pretty stupid stuff, like daddy lying to Junior about why he comes home so late so that mommy doesn't suspect anything.
- tony4moroney, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5i watched the first two minutes of that video and i can say it was incredibly informing. informing about how ***** pathetic attempts at propaganda can be.
- lokee73, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Dugg for the title making me laugh in that "I really want to cry" way.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7It's not that bad, my friend. We'll fix it. I'm a Gen Xer- we're smart and have finally found our "cause." Little did I know my defining moments would be at the hands of a semi-fascist (if not fully) government in my own country.
We have to remember reason, and compassion, and the principles of honesty and integrity that founded our nation. They bore our parents and grandparents through much harder days than these, and they will carry us through the Dark Years of Bush, too. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5cheney is looking peachy impeachable. the one man shadow government. enough is enough? most USA citizens are living in a media created dreamscape that has zero to do with reality. the middle class is really going broke. maybe a lot of diggers are kids that don;t have bills yet, but for those of who have bills they keep getting more irrational and going up up up and sometimes there is no principle involved. they say the national debt now = $29,000. per citizen. this is real. hijacked it an understatement. the people are being ripped off - badly. where is the electorate? are citizens finally awakening? Ron Paul introduced a bill to dissolve the Federal Reserve which prints the money out of nothing and uses it for debt and then for people to pay pay pay. The basic currency system in the USA is a total rip-off. More people are learning about this. Some countries that dump the central bank do well after dumping the leeches. Most USA citizens can not remotely comprehend this. The national debt to the central bankers is staggering. It makes the Microsoft monopoly look weak. the have worked a novel trick on the people for quite a long time and have really increased their thieving of the populace. If you do not know of the issue, research Federal Reserve. This is a lot of dialogue about this. Also, credit card debt is now 66 billion dollars. Ten years ago it was 1/10th of that. The controllers run people broke and then get them in debt. what do you do when you do not have heat in the winter? you go into debt. People are being run into the ground in the USA. The government privatization thieving is done in the name of the stock-holders. there are a few different sides to the issue but the net result is a huge rip-off of working people and working people living with significant risk of going bankrupt depending on circumstances. Young people do not realize that the USA used to be full of vibrant wacky small businesses doing retail where the owners could live and operate their business. All of that is gone now and replaced by corporate shopping cneters and strip malls and corporate retail and restaurants. It is a huge change. The laws are rigged against small retail business and there is a lot of corporate welfare. The politicians are bought off by the corporate lobbyists. I fear the young do not even know what they have lost. One thing is certain, many will feel the sting of debt that takes years and years to deal with. It is a design and well achieved and the exploitation is politically enabled.
- SkittlesUSA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@ Glynth
Yup, welcome to digg. These people work of each others' lies and make extreme comments without backing them up. But hey, if you say something enough it has to be correct, right? - fivestarsoul, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3i just... i dont even give a ***** anymore.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Is that a toilet flushing or is it democracy in America being flushed down the tube and onto the ***** farm...
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Impeaching is not the answer. Effective majorities in congress are the answer. We have to roll back the legislative damage they have done.
I'm bypassing your personal slurs in an attempt to convince you that pessimism really isn't going to get us anywhere. We have to look forward and continue to speak truth to power. Period. - Hoov, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Someone round up 4chan!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2totally with you
- Yage2006, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Knowing bush don't count to heavily on that next election.
It amazes me what he can get away with and nobody does ***** about it :-( - Hoov, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2POS commenting system...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2i agree, but sometimes we get side-tracked. half the time, important articles like this are behind pictures that make no ***** sense and get like five thousand diggs.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2We have a 49 seat majority- in order to get anything done in the Senate you need a minimum of 60 votes. With Lieberman siding with the GOP we just simply don't have the numbers. Most of us knew this election night 2006 and consequently understand that certain things will not be possible until after we widen the majority in 2008.
Besides which, as I stated above, any impeachment action on Bush will only legitimize the horrible things he has done, since the Republicans can say it was just political revenge for Clinton and blow the whole thing off. - makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2No, any group that can empirically prove they are right, and have the polls showing the American populace agrees with them, have a pretty good right to claim they have few more brains on their side of the fence. I mean, your leader is a puerile fool!
- IADTatami, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sometimes I wonder if that isn't the point of this administration's shenanegans: To make Americans more receptive to the concept of the North American Union by waggling the weaknesses of our current system of government in our faces, and by putting the country into such financial peril that something like the NAU becomes an attractive alternative to collapse.
- djiivu, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Buried as inaccurate. Executive Order 12958 was created by Bill Clinton. President Bush amended it.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I figured this reply above needed a better spot so that this "why don't the Democrats impeach?" question can once and for all bite the dust;
We have a 49 seat majority- in order to get anything done in the Senate you need a minimum of 60 votes. With Lieberman siding with the GOP we just simply don't have the numbers. Most of us knew this election night 2006 and consequently understand that certain things will not be possible until after we widen the majority in 2008. Besides which, as I stated above, any impeachment action on Bush will only legitimize the horrible things he has done, since the Republicans can say it was just political revenge for Clinton and blow the whole thing off. - makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Agreed. I think leveraging the meritocracy of ideas that Digg represents would be difficult at best, and at worst ruin the individuality inherent in such a system.
- K1BJF, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Are you describing the Republican party or the Democratic party. I guess they both really have become the same thing.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1There is little or no chance such a union will ever come to pass. Most folks who truly worry about it tend to be conspiracy theorists.
The real danger is the current government and their obsessive desire to funnel as much money as possible to corporations, regardless of the impact in terms of human lives or national treasure. We should focus on that very real and very immediate threat before worrying about implausible "liberal" nightmares that no one in their right mind takes seriously. - eatsushi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I don't know why they dugg you down but I am with you on that one. I gave up explaining to my parents what and why they are doing things like this and they refused to listen. These are crucial times and comments like yours should be heard just for the sake of it.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1OK lacyshoes, you're saying in essence that Bush's lawbreaking doesn't matter because you dug up some ***** on the Clintons?
The government spent almost $80 million investigating them- you'd think if there were something there charges would have been brought up, wouldn't you? Check my source below;
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/30/ic.history/ - inactive, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1Dugg for a great title. lol.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2There is NOTHING 'semi' about the Bush-led government!
- eatsushi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2***** him, he isn't an American. Once he's out, he's out, and we take back our country.
- Colton, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I doubt that they could get away with saying it's revenge for Clinton. There is nothing, not a thing in the world, that can legitimize what Bush has done. Most of this country hates him already and I'm sure that if they impeached and really brought to light the horrible stuff he's done then even more will start hating him. Sure the hardcore Republicans will get all worked up and try to make it look bad but I like to think that most of the people in this country are smarter than that.
- jbhannah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I'm just surprised Cheney's still in office. A city council member can get booted off for "conflict of interest" for just appearing in an ad for a local company--endorsing it--but the Vice President of the United States has a heavy financial hand in the cookie jar of one of the nation's biggest defense contractors, and is still in office?
Someone pass me some good, old-fashioned American-made generic-brand ibuprofen. Get the Executive Branch out of (a) what I can and can't buy, and (b) what Congress can and can't demand an explanation for. Balance of power? No, thanks, the witch still weighs as much as even a lame duck. - grr74, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3With any luck he might start torturing himself.
- Myonosken, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Do you even know what a ***** Big Brother state is? A lack of freedoms =/= Big Brother State, a lack of freedoms = elective dictatorship
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You should! Don't give up hope! Our democracy has faced tougher periods of history, more fascism, more inscrutable and ridiculous policy positions, and yes, even dumber presidents.
We'll make it through this if we keep up our spirits and continue to fight the good fight!! - luciferin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4I'm sorry makuyk00, but you're a pompous fool. To think that you are somehow not to blame for the situation that we're in is ridiculous. Everyone in this country is to blame for the situation we're in, even if you didn't vote for Bush. We've allowed these laws to pass and this "war" to happen and gone on with our lives.
Yeah, I'm sure all of you 'smart people' are going to do something: you're going to point out a lot of problems and make some noise about unconstitutional laws, but that's all it's going to be. No one's going to move to impeach unless they find Bush sucking on some dick this time. Who cares if he kills millions, so long as he doesn't corrupt our youth with sex. - makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Agreed and extremely well put, SeraphimJulius.
- smokinjuan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Your idea might work, but rather than just depending on Digg, create an alliance between sites - say Digg, Reddit, Slashdot, shudder I say Fark and anything else with a large user-base (cross-site stories seem to create a larger buzz). Time the submissions to appear simultaneously while people are pissed off from a torrent of bad news in the media. Keep the message and action short and concise. Sitting in front of the computer writing congressmen will do nothing and marching will do the same. The MSM will not report. Good luck to ya.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Thanks, eatsuhi. You are a true patriot at heart.
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You must be a former or current die-hard Bush supporter, since those folks are the only ones I know who can find a way to trace everything the current twerp does back to Bill Clinton. For the record this kind of thing does no one any good. Your post did not address that all this stuff was investigated by a full majority of the GOP for 8 years and no wrongdoing was found.
Why don't you go find a "Bill Clinton Sucks" post on Digg and ruin THEIR day with your inanities.
Bitching about a president a decade ago is not going to solve all the problems Bush has created for us all today. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2there has been a ton of bush bashing so just to mix it up here is a little Clinton bashing (for old times sake ;-): http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/KFC_and_Hillary_Clinton_PIC
- makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hey why am I a "paranoid and bigoted loon"? I think your judgment is flawed if you do not see the truth in the original post.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2http://digg.com/political_opinion/Bush_Brand_Condoms_2
Bush Brand Condoms, for the dumb F&*k who doesn't know when to pull out. - Ricky8765, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1In case you haven't heard... we never declared war
- mOdQuArK, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And what happens when the current executive branch flat out ignores the laws that the "effective majority" in Congress are passing?
Hell, Dick & Bush have been ignoring the bits of the laws that they didn't like that the Congress controlled by their OWN party was passing, do you honestly think they're going to give a damn about laws passed by a Congress of the other party, even IF the veto is overridden? - makuyk00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Maybe you're right, but I say let him beat the GOP back to minority status for decades to come. If there are any good ideas left on the other side of the aisle they have been obscured by what will surely be one of the most shameful periods of American history ever.
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